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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rick4003 on November 02, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
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It seems that most people on this board is old farts getting retired or who are already retired for years! :grin:
How many young guys are we actually here? Am I the only below 30? :grin:
(I am a little jealous of all your spare time I have to say, being stuck out here in Indonesia's jungle, 12000 km from my bikes...)
(Edited for small typo)
Ulrik
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Hey! I'm 56 but I can still act like a 20 year old- at least for a few minutes!
Us old folks have time to post, that is all. Ride all you can!
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I am 26 I think im the youngest member so far.
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I used to be in my 20s, but that was 30 years ago. It's hard to figure out how I got to 57 so quickly. Luckily, when I have my riding gear on with my dark face shield, it's hard to tell how old I am, so I tend to feel young again. But it's tough to explain to a chick why I have to keep my helmet on after I get off the motorcycle.
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Good on you young fellers! Glad to see your involvement. I'm only 53 so the retirement threads only make me dred work, so I don't read 'em. I think we should have a warning for retirement thread like the NGC designation.
Signed, 53 the new 21 or John in Missouri.
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Feel better, 'young' man?
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I wish I were still a young feller! I will turn 58 in a few months, but I like to think I still have many years ahead of me. Happy riding regardless of one's age!
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I won't be retiring anytime soon, and even under the official rules I'd have the best part of a decade to go. My idea of retirement is being able to choose how much I work and when, rather than not working at all.
Now, if you want to ask the question of whether the brand and the style of these bikes attracts more riders who are buying their second, third, or nth bike, that has a pretty clear answer. After all, the average below-30 person hasn't learned the difference between Chablis and Chardonnay - let alone a GSX-R and a Griso! :grin:
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Years drag by slowly, it seems. But decades fly by. Yesterday I was 24, Now I'm 66 and I don't know what happened. :shocked:
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I'm with Jeff.
My advise is ride all you can so when you get to be our age you can be an experienced Smarta@@!
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There is a whole new crop of Guzzisti due to the introduction of the new V7 models. I for one think it's great for the board and the Marque.
Take advantage of the wealth of knowledge that us old retired fart possess.
BTW no apologies for being retired worked for 40+ years most of the times two jobs. I've earned it!
Enjoy being young, won't last forever.
Dave
Galveston
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Work hard for the next 30 years, someone's got to pay my pension and social security and medical bills ... !
Lannis
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It seems that most people on this board is old farts getting retired or who are already retired for years! :grin:
How many young guys are we actually here? Am I the only below 30? :grin:
I'm 47, so, while not as young as you, I've got a long way to go. I'm raising my daughter (with the help of my wife) while also taking care of aging parents, plus a job that takes too much time, so, I'm pretty much getting it from all directions. Some weeks, the only riding I get in is the commute to and from work.
I am a little jealous of all your spare time I have to say,...
:1: :1: :1: :1: :1: :1:
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It seems that most people on this board is old farts getting retired or who are already retired for years! :grin:
How many young guys are we actually here? Am I the only below 30? :grin:
What kind of suspenders do you have?
:boozing:
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61, my wife retired at 59.5 and my X got my $ so I'll never retire..
Some weeks, the only riding I get in is the commute to and from work.
for me that's good enough, it's really good to start my work day riding in on a bike (even in rain, or snow, not ice)..and clears head going home.. sadly I'll have to park them for the winter soon..
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Enjoy the age you're at, it will be only time you'll be there.
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We've got, we have got the perfect life.
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I've had the T since I was 35. I don't know what relevance that has. Never mind.
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I just turned 30... does that put me in the "old" group?? :angry:
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I think Unkept is the youngest member , although we haven't heard from him lately . To put this age thing in perspective . we just lost a 92 year old Guzzi RIDER . So , JN Smyth was as much older than I am at 61 , than my age is greater than the OP's . Think about that for a moment :laugh:
Dusty
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" my X got my $ so I'll never retire.. "
I know all the verses to that song. 59 and began saving for retirement (again) last month. Ride often - my Bassa is my daily commute vehicle. First Guzzi discovered at age 25.
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I think Unkept is the youngest member , although we haven't heard from him lately .
yo Joe, you still with us?
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Ooops...that song goes "You're only as PRETTY as you feel inside"
Glad I checked.
Hope no one was trampled by all of those cats let loose from the bag....
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A few months ago(or so it seems) we had a survey here on this subject. Your time will come, grasshopper. :wink: The older you get, the faster time goes by.
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I'll be 57 in April so it looks like I'm right in the Guzzi sweet spot agewise.
When we all reach "retirement" age we will be opening Guzzi mc shops so the young guys have a place to take their bikes. Good thing they make so many different kinds of motorcycles. I plan on going out with a Guzzi sidecar rig. :thumb:
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I am 26 I think im the youngest member so far.
I was 26 once, sometime last century.
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Not retired, but working on it. I may be able to retire in 5 years, but I probably wont. I like my job and I get bored sitting home (especially Wisconsin winters). Thanks for being here and please stick around. The more young folks we have that are into Guzzi, the better. I got into motorcycling and Guzzis when I was 25. I'm now 52. Hang in there.
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.. sadly I'll have to park them for the winter soon..
That's the worst. Hopefully, I've got another good 6-8 weeks before I have to do that.
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You qualify for a pre-mid life crisis Tee shirt.....
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I discovered Guzzi in my early 30s.... but that was more than a decade ago now... :huh: :shocked: :huh:
Jenn turns 35 this year! Dang...
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First Guzzi at 18.
Nixon was president.
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28, I now own 2 guzzis
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36 here. First Guzzi. First bike, really. Well, that I've owned at any rate! Not retired yet, and a long way to go yet!
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Let's see, when was I thirty?
Dean
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I was amused when some young guy commented about me, the old guy still riding. Give him a few years and he will value the experience he obtained in his youth - just like I do now.
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First Guzzi at 18.
Nixon was president.
First Guzzi (Convert) at 19.
Reagan was president.
Owned my '69 Ambassador since I was 34.
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I haven't been "Bad" since I was 9, "Good" most of the time since then, "Awesome" (it never was - more like "Bearable") for a short time in the '90s. Glad I never made it "Hang On" or "WTF".
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I retired for the second time at 56. That was five years ago. Sold my bike when I was a new dad in 85. Got my next bike in 03. Always wanted a Guzzi and got it just two years ago. Life, career, and family can really take a toll on your hobbies. Still have a hard time thinking of myself as... old
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I am 26 I think im the youngest member so far.
I am 27, so we're close.
I just turned 30... does that put me in the "old" group?? :angry:
Looks like it! :wink:
First Guzzi at 18.
Nixon was president.
I bought my first Guzzi last year, so pretty new to them, but have always loved them and have wanted one since I found out about them. I guess I must have been around 15 or something like that. Guzzis was way out of my price range when I started riding at 19, even the v35, so I had to keep dreaming about one.
Then last year after I graduated I was finally able to buy me a Guzzi! And I bought one I couldn't register or ride, which was a bit silly but it was way too cool to pass up. Now I am rebuilding it in the shape of a modern V7, or my idea of a modern V7 sport. I will start a build thread about when I get home on holiday in December, hope to get some time to work on it.
Good to hear that all of you are still young by heart, even if the birth certificate shows something else :wink:
Sadly I don't really get any riding done, it is bloody difficult riding a bike that's 12000km away! :sad: I have bought a small 160cc Honda to ride around in the weekend so I get to ride a little bit, but it really doesn't compare!
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36 here. First Guzzi. First bike, really. Well, that I've owned at any rate! Not retired yet, and a long way to go yet!
My first street bike was a Guzzi as well, a 2009 V7 Classic when I was 43 (which was only 4 years ago).
and, like CapitalGoose, not retired yet, and a long way to go.
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Now, if you want to ask the question of whether the brand and the style of these bikes attracts more riders who are buying their second, third, or nth bike, that has a pretty clear answer. After all, the average below-30 person hasn't learned the difference between Chablis and Chardonnay - let alone a GSX-R and a Griso! :grin:
Have no clue about the difference between Chablis and Chardonnay, but would pick a Griso over any GSXR/YZF-R/CBRR/ZX-R or what ever they are called. In fact the SE Tenni must be my dream bike of all! That thing is gorgeous!
I have a FZR600 Yamaha which I have had for about four years, I like the bike, it rides really well but is totally lacking character. It is a sewing machine, but a pretty fast one( in 1989)
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The last company I worked for I started with them when I was 18. I went to a different company (same field) for a couple years then came back. They knew me since I was a kid. It used to be, I would always hear how I was the youngest to do this or that, or I have a lot of potential being so young.... then before I knew it, I was just a guy. Doing the job. So I guess 30 is old. Okay there is my daily rant.
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When I was in my 30s, 50 was considered old. Now @ 72 I consider 65 is when you are approaching old. I meet people all the time in their 80s who don't look that old to me. Still can't believe I'm 72 now. Some ways I act like that but in some ways I don't, like MC riding. :grin:
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60 and waiting for a non-existent future buyout.How did I get here,what am I doing,where am I going??
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No you're not the only one under 30! I'm under 30 too.
No wait, hold on, turns out I'm 50! All the joys and wisdom of being older without looking older.
No wait, that's not true either! Damn those reality checks!
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No you're not the only one under 30! I'm under 30 too.
No wait, hold on, turns out I'm 50! All the joys and wisdom of being older without looking older.
No wait, that's not true either! Damn those reality checks!
Failing vision is nature's way of keeping us from realizing how old we look :laugh:
Dusty
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Retired in 1984 at age 47. Back to work at 50. Retired again at 70. Returned on call to same job 4 months later, as anticipated. Now 78, no intention of retiring. It's not all it's cracked up to be.
Ralph
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I was 26 once, sometime last century.
I was 26 in the last millenia but I don't remember it very well.
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Retired in 1984 at age 47. Back to work at 50. Retired again at 70. Returned on call to same job 4 months later, as anticipated. Now 78, no intention of retiring. It's not all it's cracked up to be.
Ralph
Then you are doing it all wrong.
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Not retired, just stopped working and started collecting on past hard work.
Retirement is a furnace or box in the ground. :grin:
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yo Joe, you still with us?
Still lurking.
-Joe (currently 26)
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I started riding Guzzi's when I was 27, in 1988. I remember those old farts at the rallies. And I was single. Back in 1990 I carried three different women to three different Guzzi rallies in a month. Had the old men in trouble, and their wives furious!
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I announced to my children that beginning on my 39th birthday I would henceforth count the years backwards. I'm 23.
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I recently turned 21. For the third time... :cool:
That's ok, next year I turn 40. In hexadecimal.
cr
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I recently turned 21. For the third time... :cool:
That's ok, next year I turn 40. In hexadecimal.
cr
We might all be old, but on what other motorcycle list are you going to get a base 16 reference?
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First Guzzi at 18.
Nixon was president.
First bike (not a Guzzi, a Suzi X6) when I was 16.
Nixon was president, Trudeau was PM, and Duff Roblin had built the ditch just a couple years before...
(bonus points for anyone who knows about the ditch)
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I am 26 I think im the youngest member so far.
I'm 26 too if that makes you feel any better. 27 in February.
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Then you are doing it all wrong.
:1: Amen.
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I recently turned 21. For the third time... :cool:
That's ok, next year I turn 40. In hexadecimal.
cr
so you're a million dollar man (64 decimal in binary, base 2 = 1000000)
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What kind of suspenders do you have?
:boozing:
None at the moment I'm afraid, but am seriously considering getting the red kind so I can join the Red suspender snapping action that goes on here! :grin:
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Then you are doing it all wrong.
Not doing it wrong at all. Retiring fully would be wrong for me and I certainly don't need the income. I like to work and I pick jobs that I can go to with a sense of enthusiasm. The free time Guzzi rides are all the sweeter for it.
Ralph
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Got my first Guzzi when I was 20, a 6 month old mk1 lemans, it was king of the road then, our local small town bike club boasted 13 Guzzi's back then. Still got Guzzi's , despite the pain it never leaves you. Retired twice , didn't suit me so back working again, still a bit away from the 60 mark, still looking for adventure or whatever comes my way.
Age is a state of mind :bike-037:
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Ending my second round of 30 next year.
Whats is this retirement you speak of?
I bought my first Guzzi in first my mid twenties. I think Carter was president.
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I bought my first Guzzi in first my mid twenties.
Wish I had, didn't learn about them till late in life. Been retired a while now, love it.
Dean
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Not doing it wrong at all. Retiring fully would be wrong for me and I certainly don't need the income. I like to work and I pick jobs that I can go to with a sense of enthusiasm. The free time Guzzi rides are all the sweeter for it.
Ralph
I can tell that I really approach this gig differently than you. I find that I'm starting to resent ANY "calls on my time" other than recreational things that I've planned. I have always volunteered for church and community service things, but I'm starting to ask myself "Lannis, haven't you been to ENOUGH committee meetings and seminars and organizational and board meetings in your life?"
I'm really getting jaded about any activity that requires a "meeting" or a "committee" or a "board". I've got one tonight, to discuss an annual budget, and hiring, and policies, and I really don't want to go ... I think I've had enough. I'll help neighbors cut up a fallen tree, or look after the granddaughters, or sit with an older person that needs help, but I'm going to quit doing things that look like "Work" looked for 35 years .....
Lannis
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If you enjoy it and it doesn't involve going to prison or screwing someone over you are doing it right.
We need more of the former and fewer of the latter.
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Wish I had, didn't learn about them till late in life. Been retired a while now, love it.
Dean
In college I had a friend who was a bonafide motorcycle cognoscente. He had bought a new 1970 Honda CB750, but he said "Goozi's" were the best bike. I valued his opinion, so I went ahead and bought one forty-five years later. :clock:
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I'm really getting jaded about any activity that requires a "meeting" or a "committee" or a "board". I'll help neighbors cut up a fallen tree, or sit with an older person that needs help, but I'm going to quit doing things that look like "Work" looked for 35 years .....
I'm retiring Christmas eve. You've summed up my thinking nicely!
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...but I'm starting to ask myself "Lannis, haven't you been to ENOUGH committee meetings and seminars and organizational and board meetings in your life?"
A very few of the ones I've been to were worth the time I spent in them. In most cases, as much or more would have been accomplished if a leader had met individually with the people involved, instead of making them all sit in the same room together. Not all, but most.
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I can tell that I really approach this gig differently than you. I find that I'm starting to resent ANY "calls on my time" other than recreational things that I've planned. I have always volunteered for church and community service things, but I'm starting to ask myself "Lannis, haven't you been to ENOUGH committee meetings and seminars and organizational and board meetings in your life?"
I'm really getting jaded about any activity that requires a "meeting" or a "committee" or a "board". I've got one tonight, to discuss an annual budget, and hiring, and policies, and I really don't want to go ... I think I've had enough. I'll help neighbors cut up a fallen tree, or look after the granddaughters, or sit with an older person that needs help, but I'm going to quit doing things that look like "Work" looked for 35 years .....
Lannis
What you're explaining, Lannis, is a phase of life, if a person like you have contributed enough to get there not so much of yourself, but of others first. I got there in `01 and have no regrets just saying, BTDT. Time to move on. Let others do their part there. Many don't ever go there so don't understand or never tire of situation. To each their own happiness. :azn: I'm just happy to be able to financially retire. For a long time never thought it was going to happen. But then again I've never needed a lot of $ to be happy either, so that helps. Been retired since `98.
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I retired at 50 moved to the country and got bored after about 5 years.
I got a job driving a school bus.
I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same kids for the last 7 years so I get to see them grow-up.
My kids range from 4 years old to 18 y.o.
All I have to do is start my bus, pick-up and deliver kids and go home.
I even have kids come out to see me when they are home from the Service or College.
The kids keep me in touch with young people and ALL I have to worry about is how I do MY job.... nothing else,no one else,no bugets,no revenue,...NO worries!!!!
I volunteer now more than ever ,since, I have the time to help those that were not as Blessed as I was....Alan
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I retired at 50 moved to the country and got bored after about 5 years.
I got a job driving a school bus.
I LOVE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same kids for the last 7 years so I get to see them grow-up.
My kids range from 4 years old to 18 y.o.
All I have to do is start my bus, pick-up and deliver kids and go home.
I even have kids come out to see me when they are home from the Service or College.
The kids keep me in touch with young people and ALL I have to worry about is how I do MY job.... nothing else,no one else,no bugets,no revenue,...NO worries!!!!
I volunteer now more than ever ,since, I have the time to help those that were not as Blessed as I was....Alan
Sounds excellent!
My trouble is, once you're known for serving as a committee chairman or board member, people are always trying to get you to do it.
Serving meals at the Salvation Army - yes! Like you say, just do my job, help people!
But serving on the Governance Board of the Salvation Army - no! Some might say "But you can use your professional skills to help MORE people that way ... "
No, I'm not listening! LA la LA la LA ..... And if they ask YOU to serve on the Transportation Advisory Committee for the school district, you just say "NO! I have a bus to drive, kids to interact with. No time, sorry!"
Lannis
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Sounds excellent!
My trouble is, once you're known for serving as a committee chairman or board member, people are always trying to get you to do it.
Serving meals at the Salvation Army - yes! Like you say, just do my job, help people!
But serving on the Governance Board of the Salvation Army - no! Some might say "But you can use your professional skills to help MORE people that way ... "
No, I'm not listening! LA la LA la LA ..... And if they ask YOU to serve on the Transportation Advisory Committee for the school district, you just say "NO! I have a bus to drive, kids to interact with. No time, sorry!"
Lannis
That's exactly right!!!
Since I moved to my new place in the country.. after I retired... no one knows of my past life/skills and I like to keep it that way for just the reason you mentioned.
Like my wife says when I get all riled-up about how I could run this or that better....."You're just another ignorant old man living in East Texas" :thumb:
We do home bound, high school groups, things like that and of course school bus driver which ends up being volunteer once I pay for car expenses.
I really enjoy the one on one interaction.
Let them young whipper-snappers worry about "the BIG picture"....Alan
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.... I find that I'm starting to resent ANY "calls on my time" other than recreational things that I've planned.
Do you think this is age related or just simply tired of the repeating 'ground hog day"?
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I'm 68 and I won't quit 'till they pry my cold dead fingers from the stick/control wheel. :-)
mike
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Do you think this is age related or just simply tired of the repeating 'ground hog day"?
They're related, so it's a little of both, I think.
Part of it is what makes one tend to be a "curmudgeon". Some things, I've put up with now for 50 years, things that don't make sense and are wrong. But now, I don't have to keep my mouth shut and toe the line because I've got to keep a job or stay in school or stay respectable or something - Like King Theoden said as he faced Saruman's tower - "I am old, and fear no peril any more". Some perils, anyhow.
Lannis
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There probably is a reason.
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:police:
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They're related, so it's a little of both, I think.
Part of it is what makes one tend to be a "curmudgeon". Some things, I've put up with now for 50 years, things that don't make sense and are wrong. But now, I don't have to keep my mouth shut and toe the line because I've got to keep a job or stay in school or stay respectable or something - Like King Theoden said as he faced Saruman's tower - "I am old, and fear no peril any more". Some perils, anyhow.
Lannis
Yes, when you are really retired, YOU decide what you do next, unless you still let others decide for you like most of your prior life. Just matters what your preferences are. :boozing:
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But now, I don't have to keep my mouth shut and toe the line because I've got to keep a job or stay in school or stay respectable or something
:thumb:
The last couple of years of my office career, I had to keep in mind this: "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes."
My current happiness is based in some part on my freedom to decline interaction with assholes.
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:thumb:
The last couple of years of my office career, I had to keep in mind this: "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self esteem, first make sure you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes."
My current happiness is based in some part on my freedom to decline interaction with assholes.
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Just turned 59 in August and I have no intention of retiring, I get great pleasure in showing up for work and make my co-workers miserable for another day !!!!!
I actually enjoy my job, I'm an aircraft mechanic for an airline, it's the only thing I've done for the last 40 years, it indeed will be a sad day when I'm not able to work on aircraft .
Ride one on my bikes everyday, except for the rare rain day here in the northern Sonoran desert of south central Aridzona .
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Just turned 59 in August and I have no intention of retiring, I get great pleasure in showing up for work and make my co-workers miserable for another day !!!!!
Do you get extra pay for being extra miserable? :evil: Maybe that's the type of job I will look for next.
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Dang young-uns, rallys usta be fun then them kids showed up. Can't trust anyone under 60 these days.
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Is there a Moto Guzzi forum that is less oriented toward older men?
Is the only alternative individual threads on advrider or Aprilia forum's Moto Guzzi sub-forum? What's the view on the newish guzziriders.org?
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Is there a Moto Guzzi forum that is less oriented toward older men?
Is the only alternative individual threads on advrider or the Aprillia forum? What's the view on the newish guzziriders.org?
So... what you are asking is this ? Please , is there a place less littered with crotchety old men where a young person might find some respite ? :laugh: It's OK Rob , we already know ... :rolleyes:
Dusty
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So... what you are asking is this ? Please , is there a place less littered with crotchety old men where a young person might find some respite ? :laugh: It's OK Rob , we already know ... :rolleyes:
Dusty
Yes, that's exactly what I'm asking, and you know what, some older people might ask the same thing.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm asking, and you know what, some older people might ask the same thing.
Geez Rob , I thought we had been pretty nice to you :huh:
Dusty
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Geez Rob , I thought we had been pretty nice to you :huh:
Dusty
In other words, you're now going to kick me out. That's cool, and reflective of the age problem of this forum.
Meanwhile, I suggest that you think about this statement, from a thread today, which the moderators had no problem with, but which is completely out out of touch with 2015 and for many people highly offensive, not to mention entirely irrelevant to what was being discussed: "He's an ex schoolmaster of questionable orientation, definitely a bully which I find contradictory."
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In other words, you're now going to kick me out. That's cool, and reflective of the age problem of this forum.
Meanwhile, I suggest that you think about this statement, from a thread today, which the moderators had no problem with, but which is completely out out of touch with 2015 and for many people highly offensive, not to mention entirely irrelevant to what was being discussed: "He's an ex schoolmaster of questionable orientation, definitely a bully which I find contradictory."
Who said anything about kicking you out ??? As for the other , none of us are perfect , and the mods can't catch everything . Besides , the author has never ever shown any prejudices , maybe we are willing to let a stray comment slide . It is called wisdom , comes with being old :laugh:
Now , if you aren't happy here , no reason to attack us , start a young persons forum and insult us over there . Fair enough ?
Dusty
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In other words, you're now going to kick me out. That's cool, and reflective of the age problem of this forum.
Damn, Rob. I didn't read that in Dusty's posts. Why would you think you were about to be "kicked out" of Wildguzzi?
Meanwhile, I suggest that you think about this statement, from a thread today, which the moderators had no problem with, but which is completely out out of touch with 2015 and for many people highly offensive, not to mention entirely irrelevant to what was being discussed: "He's an ex schoolmaster of questionable orientation, definitely a bully which I find contradictory."
I don't know what this is about, but when I search this forum for "ex schoolmaster", the only return I get is this post from you.
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Is there a Moto Guzzi forum that is less oriented toward older men?
Is the only alternative individual threads on advrider or Aprilia forum's Moto Guzzi sub-forum? What's the view on the newish guzziriders.org?
Like it, or not, Moto Guzzi's demographic is about what Harley's is. Or Lincoln-Mercury. Late 50s median.
ADVrider has a relatively young demo for a motorcycle forum, so you might enjoy the "Road Warriors" section over there. Lots of members in thier 30s and 40s over there.
I got my first Guzzi at age 30. Eighteen years later, I still find myself among the youngest in attendance at Guzzi events and on Guzzi forums. It's just the way it is, and doesn't change the way I feel about the machines and thier history.
The V7 has brought in a bunch of younger buyers who are new to Guzzi. New blood is a good thing. They're different, though. Different demographic. Different motorcycling experiences.
The old saying that applies to most situations in life also applies at Wildguzzi:
Rōmānō vīvitō mōre; si fueris alibī, vīvitō sicut ibi
(if you should be in Rome, live in the Roman manner; if you should be elsewhere, live as they do there)
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Hey Rob
I have been on the aprilia forum since 2002. In the last couple years since they picked up Guzzi they have become more active in the Guzzi section and they are definitely a younger crowd, but if you think these guys hurt your feelings then you probably won't be happy at AF1. This forum is also more experienced with the pre piaggio Guzzi where AF1 is good with the newer Guzzi.
For motorcycle enthusiast I don't see age as an issue, it's more about the love of the machine and being a gear head. So don't wear your feelings on your sleeve and you will enjoy and benifit from the knowledge that these guys have.
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Dusty, to his credit, knows exactly what I'm talking about. Read the fifth post in this thread: http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=80381.0
Just back from finding it: "He's an ex schoolmaster of questionable orientation, definitely a bully which I find contradictory."
If you find this offensive, you either have very thin skin, or are looking to be offended.
Political Orientation?
Ideological Orientation?
Sexual Orientation?
Who knows? Who cares? Don't go looking to be offended on the internet. You won't get far. And this is about the tamest moto forum I can think of.
Earlier I recommended ADVrider. I withdraw that recommendation. You'll be offended. Especially here: http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/church-state-money.49/
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Just back from finding it: "He's an ex schoolmaster of questionable orientation, definitely a bully which I find contradictory."
If you find this offensive, you either have very thin skin, or are looking to be offended.
Political Orientation?
Ideological Orientation?
Sexual Orientation?
Who knows? Who cares? Don't go looking to be offended on the internet. You won't get far. And this is about the tamest moto forum I can think of.
Earlier I recommended ADVrider. I withdraw that recommendation. You'll be offended. Especially here: http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/church-state-money.49/
A great response Rocker and right on the mark!
Those offended step back and take a deep breath Good grief!
mike
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This thread is pretty funneeeeee!!!!!
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IMHO the diversity of an organization (like this forum) is a strength rather than a weakness. It is a good thing that the V7 and the popularity of cafe racers has attracted some younger blood to the Marque.
As a nooby here, I find this place pretty civilized and helpful. If your feelings are bruised here, then ADVrider is not for you.
If the crotchety old men have a point of view that you take issue with, make your case in a well considered, respectful manner. If you meet with derision and rudeness (which I doubt) then find a forum to your liking.
Tommaso
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And this is about the tamest moto forum I can think of.
Earlier I recommended ADVrider. I withdraw that recommendation. You'll be offended. Especially here: http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/church-state-money.49/
Darn, I wanted to read it, but I have to be a member.
Rocker, this is a great board, with a large membership, but smaller boards I frequent that are about the Kawasaki triples have a noticeably friendlier atmosphere in general. When I joined here, I was a little surprised at the willingness of some guys to throw an insult or two at fellow members occasionally, or maybe more than occasionally. Nothing overly hurtful, but things like "that's a dumb thing to say", for example. It helps a lot when posting to envision a real person at the receiving end, and word the post as if you're face to face with him.
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Unless you have been around motorcycles for awhile? (in the USA) you probably never have even heard of a Moto Guzzi. I had my first in the EU and I was in my 40's but there are many Guzzi's seen in that area of the world.
So when younger people(USA) begin looking into ownership of a moto I am afraid Guzzis are pretty much invisible. In the last 2 years I have had only one or maybe two people that had any idea of what I was riding while on trips across country.
Is that a bad thing?? I don't think so but it tends to draw the more seasoned group of riders which I like to think of as enthusiast's not just riders. It is sometimes a long journey to arrive at that level so we tend to be a "mature" bunch.
I may be older but I am just as enthusiastic about riding as I was in my 20s'and still willing to toe the mark for the experience, even with rear sets and clip-ons.
As to getting the younger crowd involved in Guzzi I think we already have, look around at your next NAR they are all around you.
:-)
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Darn, I wanted to read it, but I have to be a member.
Rocker, this is a great board, with a large membership, but smaller boards I frequent that are about the Kawasaki triples have a noticeably friendlier atmosphere in general. When I joined here, I was a little surprised at the willingness of some guys to throw an insult or two at fellow members occasionally, or maybe more than occasionally. Nothing overly hurtful, but things like "that's a dumb thing to say", for example. It helps a lot when posting to envision a real person at the receiving end, and word the post as if you're face to face with him.
Yeah , if you wouldn't say it to someone's face around a campfire ...Of course we are all capable of a temporary lapse of decorum , but most of us catch ourselves before any real trouble .
Dusty
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Unless you have been around motorcycles for awhile? (in the USA) you probably never have even heard of a Moto Guzzi. I had my first in the EU and I was in my 40's but there are many Guzzi's seen in that area of the world.
So when younger people(USA) begin looking into ownership of a moto I am afraid Guzzis are pretty much invisible. In the last 2 years I have had only one or maybe two people that had any idea of what I was riding while on trips across country.
Is that a bad thing?? I don't think so but it tends to draw the more seasoned group of riders which I like to think of as enthusiast's not just riders. It is sometimes a long journey to arrive at that level so we tend to be a "mature" bunch.
I may be older but I am just as enthusiastic about riding as I was in my 20s'and still willing to toe the mark for the experience, even with rear sets and clip-ons.
As to getting the younger crowd involved in Guzzi I think we already have, look around at your next NAR they are all around you.
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I am also just as enthusiastic in my dotage , maybe even more so than years ago . Could have something to do with recognizing mortality , dunno .
We do in fact encourage younger riders and potential riders to attend our little NAR's , most of us are really kids at heart , despite the gray beards :laugh: Often hard enticing youngsters into a weekend sleeping on the ground , or into enjoying a good camp fire discussion , although I will bet many would find us more interesting and cool than they previously believed .
Dusty
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Yeah , if you wouldn't say it to someone's face around a campfire ...Of course we are all capable of a temporary lapse of decorum , but most of us catch ourselves before any real trouble .
Dusty
The unfortunate truth of the written (or typed) word is that tone and inflection and intent can me misunderstood. Especially jokes and sarcasm. It helps to know the person you're conversing with. Unfortunately, new members and members halfway around the world don't have that luxury.
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Remember these? :popcorn:
(http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/080111middle2.jpg)
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Remember that guy? :popcorn:
(http://image.hotrod.com/f/60120038+w660+h495+cr1/1404-golden-anniversary-gto-mccahill-1967-pontiac-gto-convertible.jpg)
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Remember these? :popcorn:
(http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/080111middle2.jpg)
The Munch Mamout . So... you're saying that makes me old ? :grin:
Dusty
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The Munch Mamout . So... you're saying that makes me old ? :grin:
Dusty
Like a fine wine..........
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:popcorn:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WcEwskn-vU8/TxOjHxCIBTI/AAAAAAAACBA/FkBBlo_4SzA/s1600/brando.jpg)
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Like a fine wine..........
Tell my GF that :rolleyes:
Dusty
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Darn, I wanted to read it, but I have to be a member.
Rocker, this is a great board, with a large membership, but smaller boards I frequent that are about the Kawasaki triples have a noticeably friendlier atmosphere in general. When I joined here, I was a little surprised at the willingness of some guys to throw an insult or two at fellow members occasionally, or maybe more than occasionally. Nothing overly hurtful, but things like "that's a dumb thing to say", for example. It helps a lot when posting to envision a real person at the receiving end, and word the post as if you're face to face with him.
Jim.. some of us on the board are very good friends indeed, and gouge each other unmercifully. If someone new to the board saw some of those, they'd think we were having an argument, or something. I remember one time when ccoli and I were bantering back and forth, and one of the lower post members PMed me and asked what we were fighting about, and why. :smiley:
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Jim.. some of us on the board are very good friends indeed, and gouge each other unmercifully. If someone new to the board saw some of those, they'd think we were having an argument, or something. I remember one time when ccoli and I were bantering back and forth, and one of the lower post members PMed me and asked what we were fighting about, and why. :smiley:
Have had the same thing happen . We do sometimes seem to be really going at it when really it is just friends acting all "Aussie" :grin:
Dusty
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The Munch Mamout . So... you're saying that makes me old ? :grin:
Dusty
Munch Mammut
Poem that appeared in Cycle magazine:
"Oh what a bike was the Munch,
Displacement, had it a bunch,
The view from the seat was Germanically neat,
But a Z1 would eat it for lunch." :grin:
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Remember that guy? :popcorn:
(http://image.hotrod.com/f/60120038+w660+h495+cr1/1404-golden-anniversary-gto-mccahill-1967-pontiac-gto-convertible.jpg)
I do. '67 and the year I graduated High School. Enjoyed his articles in Mechanix Illustrated, but he definitely came across as an elite smart-ass at times.
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Munch Mammut
Poem that appeared in Cycle magazine:
"Oh what a bike was the Munch,
Displacement, had it a bunch,
The view from the seat was Germanically neat,
But a Z1 would eat it for lunch." :grin:
That's great Charlie :thumb: Funny , a 1200 is considered normal these days .
Dusty
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Retired is just another word for unemployed.
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The unfortunate truth of the written (or typed) word is that tone and inflection and intent can me misunderstood. Especially jokes and sarcasm. It helps to know the person you're conversing with. Unfortunately, new members and members halfway around the world don't have that luxury.
This is it in a nutshell,,, email, texting etc,,, so easy to lose context, tone, mis-interpretation etc,,, and reality is, some times people forget basic manners, courtesy and respect when they're looking at a monitor and not someone's eyes, jmho.
As far as retirement goes,,, I'm into mine, close to 5 years,,, busier now than I've ever been,,, all good, getting better along the way,,, as far as youthful energy goes,,, I would probably rate myself somewhere on the scale of a "wise 15 yr old",,, aching old bones might not agree,,lol, but I'm not too dull to be around,,, ;~),lol.
Re this board,,, there is a passion here,, for many different pursuits, that is infectious,,, and an expert knowledge base on many fronts,, not just bikes or guzzis,,, and most importantly, very willing to share.
re the crotchety complaint,,, I'll sum it up by saying this,,, a very close, older friend of mine, retired military man, 3 times cancer survivor, a perfectionist in every endeavour/challenge he ever took up,,, in his late 60's taught himself how to make guitars. They were beautiful, as was any thing else he created,,, he was also an opinionated self righteous abrasive know it all,,, but I have to cut him some slack,,, he walks the walk, not just talk,,, when I ask him a question,,, I might be made to feel like a fool,,, but I know who I can depend on, to get the right answer,,, and I love him for it it,,, much like this forum.
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Jim.. some of us on the board are very good friends indeed, and gouge each other unmercifully.
This is exactly how I see all the comments like "that's a dumb thing to say", like old friends gouging eachother. I would indeed do this with my old friends face to face. We know eachother well enough to be able to say something like that without the other person getting offended by it. Lot of the members on this site have been here for ages, (probably why they are all retired :grin:) and act like you would with an old friend.
I am probably one of the guys with the lowest post counts but I do check in every day to see what's going on, even if I don't post so much.
This post might not say so much as I am young and knows nothing compared to the other guys on this forum :grin:
Ulrik
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Rick , we don't know anything either :rolleyes:
Dusty
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Before they let me join, there used to be a entrance test.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic047/Rocket-science_zpsovxi2occ.jpg)
:huh:
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Amazing.......no swearing on this forum and someone gets bent out of shape for a comment that is taken by the majority as okay but one person cannot handle. BAH....WHAAaaaaaaa. Want some whine with that????
Can't handle the virtual campfire? You probably can't handle a real campfire with us in person.
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Many years ago (remember- we're all old gits here) at a Guzzi Rally in Derbyshire, England I met a couple at the 'disco' (I said it was many years ago didn't I?). We went outside to have a joint and carried on later in their tent. Spent a long time looking for a pressure gauge and giggling. That's how I think of this forum - guys and gals you can talk to and have good time with.
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As far as retirement goes,,, I'm into mine, close to 5 years,,, busier now than I've ever been,,,
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When I finally get to retire, I expect to keep myself busy. The difference will be, I'll be busy with more things that I WANT to do, and less with things that I HAVE to do.
I will also do these things more on my own schedule. No longer will I be tortured with nice weather all week long while I'm chained to a desk at work, in between two rainy weekends. I'll have the flexibility to ride, and do other things that I want to do outside WHEN the weather is nice, not IF the weather is nice.
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Those midweek 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM rides with a nice lunch in between sure are nice. :thumb:
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I've been reading the Pepys diary of the late 1600's (an enormous thing). I came across this entry yesterday:
...and so away to bed, weary and mightily pleased, and have the happiness to reflect upon it as I do sometimes on other things, as going to a play or the like, to be the greatest real comfort that I am to expect in the world, and that it is that that we do really labour in the hopes of; and so I do really enjoy myself, and understand that if I do not do it now I shall not hereafter, it may be, be able to pay for it, or have health to take pleasure in it, and so fill myself with vain expectation of pleasure and go without it.
- Samuel Pepys diary, January 6, 1667
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I've been reading the Pepys diary of the late 1600's (an enormous thing). I came across this entry yesterday:
...and so away to bed, weary and mightily pleased, and have the happiness to reflect upon it as I do sometimes on other things, as going to a play or the like, to be the greatest real comfort that I am to expect in the world, and that it is that that we do really labour in the hopes of; and so I do really enjoy myself, and understand that if I do not do it now I shall not hereafter, it may be, be able to pay for it, or have health to take pleasure in it, and so fill myself with vain expectation of pleasure and go without it.
- Samuel Pepys diary, January 6, 1667
I've been reading the Pepys diary of the late 1600's (an enormous thing). I came across this entry yesterday:
...and so away to bed, weary and mightily pleased, and have the happiness to reflect upon it as I do sometimes on other things, as going to a play or the like, to be the greatest real comfort that I am to expect in the world, and that it is that that we do really labour in the hopes of; and so I do really enjoy myself, and understand that if I do not do it now I shall not hereafter, it may be, be able to pay for it, or have health to take pleasure in it, and so fill myself with vain expectation of pleasure and go without it.
- Samuel Pepys diary, January 6, 1667
I never thought I'd see a post about Samuel Pepys' diary on this forum.
He didn't take much for granted in life, did he?
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I never thought I'd see a post about Samuel Pepys' diary on this forum.
He didn't take much for granted in life, did he?
This year at our Cedar Vale camp out we discussed Kant , and modern philosophies influence on the Beverly Hillbillies :huh: :laugh:
Dusty
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http://www.pepysdiary.com/ or https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=mw#hl=en&q=samuel+pepys+diary
Dean
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This year at our Cedar Vale camp out we discussed Kant , and modern philosophies influence on the Beverly Hillbillies :huh: :laugh:
Dusty
Now I know for sure I'm riding the right motorcycle.
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Now I know for sure I'm riding the right motorcycle.
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So now the thread drift is well and truly underway.........
Showed my bro-in-law from OZ some clips of Stanley Unwin from You Tube. You youngies (I am 67 today) will never have heard of the Group, The Small Faces and their record, Ogdens Nut Gone Flake in which Stanley Unwin relates the story of Happines Stan. of course, you have to have a sense of humour out of left field to truly appreciate it.
Probably why I ride a Guzzi. :rolleyes: :grin: :grin: :grin:
The clip where he is on the Parkinson show describing how a Heath Robinson machine works is priceless. :thumb:
p.s. I only have FIVE working days to go until I retire. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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p.s. I only have FIVE working days to go until I retire. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Congrats on your impending retirement!
I am officially envious.
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Last month before I get SS, then I cut back to 3 days a week. Most likely bike work not flipping wood. Can't wait to do more riding
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I went back to work. Not as bad as it sounds. I HAVE to leave the office and my area of responsibility is the West half of the Big Island. WFO it's maybe 90+ minutes either direction and I get mileage. The manager stopped questioning my use of a motorcycle.
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I'm so old I can't even remember how old I am anymore, I think 66 or 67 but I can still throw my leg over my Daytona 675 and still settle into the soft Bassa seat...what's age got to do with it? :grin: Gonna be in the 50's today in Abruzzo... I think I'll go for a spin :thumb: