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Title: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Arizona Wayne on November 13, 2015, 05:13:47 PM
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Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: elvisboy77 on November 13, 2015, 05:24:43 PM
Good news!  And a new 1400!
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Cool Runnings on November 13, 2015, 05:35:00 PM
My car is even becoming Italian...... (Dodge).
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: ponti_33609 on November 13, 2015, 05:44:20 PM
I am part of the 35%.  :thumb:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Kev m on November 13, 2015, 06:13:32 PM
Good news!!!
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Perazzimx14 on November 13, 2015, 06:55:29 PM
So in raw numbers that's like 11 bikes :thumb:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: rocker59 on November 13, 2015, 07:36:42 PM
I am part of the 35%.  :thumb:

Yeah.  Me, too.   :thumb:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: canuguzzi on November 13, 2015, 07:44:36 PM
So in raw numbers that's like 11 bikes :thumb:

Funny.

If they sold 1000 last year and 1350 current still not more than an accounting error.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: rocker59 on November 13, 2015, 08:14:09 PM
Funny.

If they sold 1000 last year and 1350 current still not more than an accounting error.

@ 7000 units worldwide.  Add the increase and you're talking 9500 units.

Small potatoes, yes.  But good for Guzzi.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Arizona Wayne on November 13, 2015, 09:12:35 PM
@ 7000 units worldwide.  Add the increase and you're talking 9500 units.

Small potatoes, yes.  But good for Guzzi.


This year sales might be as good as ANY  sales Guzzi has ever had since it's existence!!  And that's something to CELEBRATE since it's a  long time coming in the heydays of the `70s.  :grin:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: rocker59 on November 13, 2015, 09:42:50 PM

This year sales might be as good as ANY  sales Guzzi has ever had since it's existence!!  And that's something to CELEBRATE since it's a  long time coming in the heydays of the `70s.  :grin:

10,000 units 2006..  But then we had the crash of 2008 where nothing would sell and bikes sat for years.  Piaggio was pushing too hard, too fast for growth with Guzzi.

Guzzi's hey day was 1971 when they sold over 46,000 units.  Top of the Bell Curve, you might say.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: ajwood on November 13, 2015, 09:51:22 PM
On Monday Sept.  21st I started out westbound from Little Rock on a '15 V7 that had very loose valve tappets and other tune issues. I looked up a local MG dealer in LR and of course, there weren't any. On the north side of Dallas Texas there were a couple but two days lodging and 200 more miles was out so I simply rode it home.

Just for grins I looked up Honda because if I had bought the CTX instead of the V7, my options would have been so much more.

My point is that it's not always the machine itself. Instead it's service that also drives sales. In Moto Guzzi's case they do have dealers but none in Arkansas? And so many of them are closed on Monday while the Japanese makes are widely serviced at dealers that are not closed.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: rocker59 on November 13, 2015, 09:55:53 PM
On Monday Sept.  21st I started out westbound from Little Rock on a '15 V7 that had very loose valve tappets and other tune issues. I looked up a local MG dealer in LR and of course, there weren't any. On the north side of Dallas Texas there were a couple but two days lodging and 200 more miles was out so I simply rode it home.

Just for grins I looked up Honda because if I had bought the CTX instead of the V7, my options would have been so much more.

My point is that it's not always the machine itself. Instead it's service that also drives sales. In Moto Guzzi's case they do have dealers but none in Arkansas? And so many of them are closed on Monday while the Japanese makes are widely serviced at dealers that are not closed.

I carry the tools to adjust valves with my other tools in two bank bags, one in each pannier.  Easy enough to do in a motel parking lot, if needed.

Yes, there are no Guzzi dealers in Arkansas.  DFW has several.  RPM in Farmers Branch and Eurosport in Fort Worth are good choices.

If you were travelling Little Rock to Tucson through the DFW, you should've stopped at one of those.

If you were on I-40, you're pretty much out of luck for Guzzi dealers along its entire length or Our Country.

What would you rather have?  Shops open on Saturday or Monday?  Most of these things are small businesses and people don't last long working six and seven days per week.  And staffing for 7-day business with 5-day employees is problematic, and expensive.

Guzzi's require owner involvment.  If a rider needs a dealer close at hand, Honda and Harley are the only way to go.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: JeffOlson on November 13, 2015, 10:10:25 PM
It is great that sales are up! Maybe I'll help out again soon...
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Green1000S on November 13, 2015, 10:12:09 PM
I am part of the 35%.  :thumb:

In to the statistics with green Stelvio.  :thumb:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: ajwood on November 13, 2015, 10:16:08 PM
Rocker59, That's okay I'll shop around for Klein tool zipper bags in lieu of a bank logo.

I just wish I could do service on it, just once at home until I'm confident enough about doing it at a motel parking lot.

Finding a drain pan and enough Motul 7100 synthetic/filter for an oil change is new ground for me.

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If MG would open corporate stores/service in areas that would welcome their product, a local business owner could take it over later.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Arizona Wayne on November 13, 2015, 10:44:16 PM
10,000 units 2006..  But then we had the crash of 2008 where nothing would sell and bikes sat for years.  Piaggio was pushing too hard, too fast for growth with Guzzi.

Guzzi's hey day was 1971 when they sold over 46,000 units.  Top of the Bell Curve, you might say.



Back then they had more than 1 factory plant pumping out new bikes.  Now it's only 1.  :cry:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: oldbike54 on November 13, 2015, 10:51:36 PM


Back then they had more than 1 factory plant pumping out new bikes.  Now it's only 1.  :cry:

 I thought every Guzzi came out of that one factory .

  Dusty
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Arizona Wayne on November 13, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
On Monday Sept.  21st I started out westbound from Little Rock on a '15 V7 that had very loose valve tappets and other tune issues. I looked up a local MG dealer in LR and of course, there weren't any. On the north side of Dallas Texas there were a couple but two days lodging and 200 more miles was out so I simply rode it home.

Just for grins I looked up Honda because if I had bought the CTX instead of the V7, my options would have been so much more.

My point is that it's not always the machine itself. Instead it's service that also drives sales. In Moto Guzzi's case they do have dealers but none in Arkansas? And so m
any of them are closed on Monday while the Japanese makes are widely serviced at dealers that are not closed.


Unless things have changed, European countries get 1st dibs on new Guzzis.  We get what's left after them.   When you're a small operation in Europe, that's the reality.  Besides the 1st year a new motor comes out, the europeans are usually used as guinea pigs until the defects are known before the bikes are sent to the US since our wide open spaces are harder on the bikes.  :grin:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Arizona Wayne on November 13, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
I thought every Guzzi came out of that one factory .

  Dusty



They do now, but back then the small blocks, odd 1s didn't.   There's no way the old/current factory could pump out that kind of volume.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: rocker59 on November 13, 2015, 11:25:57 PM


They do now, but back then the small blocks, odd 1s didn't.   There's no way the old/current factory could pump out that kind of volume.

Wayne, there were no small blocks at peak in 1971.

The De Tomaso years of the mid- to late-70s is what you're thinking of.

And peak production had well passed by then.

Yes, Mandello produced 40,000 machines.  It's a big place.  Really, it is.  Though now, many of the buildings are empty and idle.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Dogwalker on November 14, 2015, 05:54:22 AM
They are revenues, not sales.
Obviously there is an increment in sales too, but part of the 35% cames from the new Cali versions (higher price in respect to the V7 line - higher revenues with less bikes) and part from price changes from an year to another.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Aaron D. on November 14, 2015, 07:19:14 AM
Guzzi didn't worry much about the export market throughout their existence until the V700 series. So I figure the sales numbers are about as good as they have been outside of that.

So the 35% is revenue, not units? I'd like to know the profit figure.

Still, good news and shows some expansion away from the desires of our community, which is probably a good business model.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Perazzimx14 on November 14, 2015, 07:32:27 AM
My point is that it's not always the machine itself. Instead it's service that also drives sales. In Moto Guzzi's case they do have dealers but none in Arkansas? And so many of them are closed on Monday while the Japanese makes are widely serviced at dealers that are not closed.

If this were the barometer everyone uses as a buying guide we'd all ride Harleys. Most Asian big-4 dealer in my area are closed Sun and Mon whereas all the HD dealerships are open 7 day a week and they are plentiful.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: rocker59 on November 14, 2015, 08:23:34 AM
They are revenues, not sales.
Obviously there is an increment in sales too, but part of the 35% cames from the new Cali versions (higher price in respect to the V7 line - higher revenues with less bikes) and part from price changes from an year to another.

Imteresting. Thsnks.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Arizona Wayne on November 14, 2015, 11:26:07 AM
Wayne, there were no small blocks at peak in 1971.

The De Tomaso years of the mid- to late-70s is what you're thinking of.

And peak production had well passed by then.

Yes, Mandello produced 40,000 machines.  It's a big place.  Really, it is.  Though now, many of the buildings are empty and idle.



Having never been to the factory, I stand corrected.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: bad Chad on November 14, 2015, 11:30:57 AM
Good news.   The 1400 has been out for a couple years now, so I wouldn't necessarily assume, the increase in revenue is do to the higher price of the 1400.   And this info is only for the 2/3 of the year, hope the trajectory continues up for next 4 months of the year.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: homebrew on November 14, 2015, 12:09:53 PM
Quote from: the linked article
net sales up 7.7%. revenues up 6.8% for Vespa, 35.7% for Moto Guzzi and 23.4% for Aprilia
Heh. That shows you how much the full-size bikes mean to Piaggio compared to the Vespas.  The motorcycle divisions saw revenue increases that would make a tech company happy and it still only pushed Piaggio's revenue up a percent over what they would have seen without the bikes at all.
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: Cool Runnings on November 14, 2015, 12:31:00 PM
Heh. That shows you how much the full-size bikes mean to Piaggio compared to the Vespas.  The motorcycle divisions saw revenue increases that would make a tech company happy and it still only pushed Piaggio's revenue up a percent over what they would have seen without the bikes at all.


I luv my Vespa 300 Super.  :boozing:
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: rocker59 on November 14, 2015, 12:48:15 PM


Having never been to the factory, I stand corrected.  :embarrassed:

1958 vintage aerial photo of the factory in Mandello.

(http://www.thebikeshow.co.za/FTP_IMAGES/FEATURES/Features%20FEBRUARY%202011/MOTO%20GUZZI%2090%20YEARS/Factory1958.jpg)
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: oldbike54 on November 14, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
1958 vintage aerial photo of the factory in Mandello.

(http://www.thebikeshow.co.za/FTP_IMAGES/FEATURES/Features%20FEBRUARY%202011/MOTO%20GUZZI%2090%20YEARS/Factory1958.jpg)
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 Gotta love those curved buildings  :laugh:

  Dusty
Title: Re: New Guzzi sales up over 35% so far this year
Post by: PJPR01 on November 14, 2015, 01:05:20 PM
It has been a pleasure to stand in front of that red patina main gate and also next to the Carlo statue in town and dine at Il Verde above the hill.  Next time I hope to get in to see the factory and museum.  For Guzzisti...this would be the closest thing to a pilgrimage!