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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: BRIO on November 28, 2015, 04:09:02 PM
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I live 1:45 from Miami Airport where I'm based to which I travel 4-6 times per month. I usually take I 95 down. However, SFL drivers tend to become aggressive around the Fort Lauderdale area so I'm planning on driving inland and get there via country highways. This will tack on another hour at least. I'll be riding in a leather jacket and mesh over pants with EVA padding. The bike is a first gen Norge. I've got a north face rain jacket and I'll get some rain pants.
Any nuggets of wisdom and recommendations will be appreciated.
Thank you.
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High-vis riding vest or jacket. If you can get something easily misinterpreted for law enforcement, so much the better.
Todd.
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I used to own a Crown Victoria so I know what you're talking bout. If my Norge was white it would have been easier to pull off. Mine is black.
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get a white fairing bra and some spot lights?
hi viz and white helmet too.
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Take the bike to the train station and train in.
Seriously, that is what I have been doing, but then I have a train that I can take, while you likely do not. And my ride to the station is a pleasant 40minutes down mostly empty country roads.
I have taken the bike in to work a couple of times all the way to NYC. Not tooting my own horn here, Melissa Holbrook Pierson learned to ride in the city, and there are any number of people who think nothing of tearing around in the city, but for a country boy like me, it's a big deal. My route takes me parallel to the commuter tracks most of the way. I'm beating the train for the first thirty miles as it pulls into stations every few minutes to take on passengers, but losing to the train as I hit bumper-to-bumper traffic as everyone funnels towards the bridges. So for the two times I have tried this, it has been pretty much a break even---bike time was the same as train time. But I also think this might be improved upon, considering I got a bit lost and/or picked a less than optimal route.
Let's just say that I should have paid more attention to routes that take you past major bridge on-ramps. Northern Boulevard cuts right across the entrance to the Queenboro Bridge. What was I thinking?
So, I can't say I'm anything like an expert, but this is what I observe:
- A hi-viz riding suit definitely doesn't hurt. I ride a black California and I still get the sense that drivers respect me. Even so, I'm always pleasantly surprised when people pull over to let me pass on the highway.
- drivers will respect you more if you don't exploit the situation as much as you could. When the traffic slows, I do not start splitting lanes, I wait my turn "like every one else". I have been passed by other bikes that were lane splitting, but I did not.* Generally, showing your respect for other drivers improves your chances that they will respect you. They more or less still expect you to want to go faster than they do, going a little faster is better than going a lot faster.
- Google maps not only shows traffic, it can also show typical traffic at any given time of day/day of the week. Spend some time checking out the traffic pattern, you may come up with some interesting alternate routes. Or perhaps different travel times.
- There's really nothing wrong with taking a less traveled route that will take longer if you have a more pleasant, safer experience.
- Morning traffic tends to be more focused than evening traffic, drivers putting on their makeup or reading the paper excepted. Drivers headed in to work generally are focused on getting to their job on one piece. Tired drivers on their way home after a frustrating day are more inclined to act aggressively if there's one more thing that pisses them off. The evening ride home is the best time to find that quiet, longer, alternate route if you have a choice.
My two cents,
Matt
*To a person, every co-worker that I have talked to about biking in has asked me about "that thing bikers do going between the cars", generally the first question out of their mouths. It pisses them off and I have to say, I can relate to their feelings. I tell them I do not do that, it's called "lane splitting" or "filtering", or if I do, it has to be in bumper to bumper traffic, and then at only a few miles per hour. I try to educate them about it, but for the most part, they want to know that I'm not the kind to go blasting down between lines of cars pissing them off.
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When I go to the airport, I take a motorcycle cover. Then I can cable-lock my helmet under the cover and use the bags for boots and other gear. I find that a carry-on backpack speeds the whole process too. One carry-on bag to take as-is without any re-packing. Maybe the backpack will fit in one of the Norge's bags - or maybe you wear it.
Tacking on an extra hour of back-country roads seems like a nice luxury and a good safety decision... make the ride more fun and avoid the congestion.
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I commuted to work from Elmhurst Queens to 106th street, upper West side of Manhattan for 15 years. Split lanes every day. The cabs split lanes when they can get away with it and no one freaks out. Many times the considerate cagers on my route would slide over to give me room or fold in their mirrors to ease my passage. New Yorkers share the road with everything from rollerbladers to souvlaki carts. The shy stay home and motorcyclists are nothing to get worked up about.
New Jersey and Pennsylvania? Ask Blackcat about lanesplitting with me down the Pennsylvania Turnpike...
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Ride as if your life depended on it.
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I commuted to work from Elmhurst Queens to 106th street, upper West side of Manhattan for 15 years. Split lanes every day. The cabs split lanes when they can get away with it and no one freaks out. Many times the considerate cagers on my route would slide over to give me room or fold in their mirrors to ease my passage. New Yorkers share the road with everything from rollerbladers to souvlaki carts. The shy stay home and motorcyclists are nothing to get worked up about.
I live in Jackson Heights, which as you know is next door to Elmhurst.
I can't say that my experience is that New York drivers are a big happy family.
I suggest that you look at the fatality and injury rate in New York (there's good reporting on it) which is why the speed limit in the city was reduced to 25mph almost exactly one year ago. The carnage on New York City streets is alarming.
You can start here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/visionzero/pages/home/home.shtml
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I wouldn't get a false sense of security on the smaller highways. At least on I-95 you know they are out to get you and can act accordingly.
A little bit of caution induced adrenaline is sually a good thing.
But if you have time to take the longer way, good on you!
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I rode I85 around the Atlanta area for years.
Add bright driving lights. A bright set of LED lights can be found for a cheap price. Space them away from the headlights.
Add loud horns. They can help. They can also be ignored.
Add bright driving lights.
Add a secondary brake light, just in case.
Add bright driving lights.
Wear a bright helmet color, and bright colored jacket or vest.
Add bright driving lights.
I saw an article a few days ago that claimed the Montana had the worse drivers in the US. Sorry but I still think it is Florida. Every time I have ridden through Florida, someone ALWAYS pulls out in front of my, like I don't exist.
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I rode I85 around the Atlanta area for years.
Add bright driving lights. A bright set of LED lights can be found for a cheap price. Space them away from the headlights.
Add loud horns. They can help. They can also be ignored.
Add bright driving lights.
Add a secondary brake light, just in case.
Add bright driving lights.
Wear a bright helmet color, and bright colored jacket or vest.
Add bright driving lights.
I saw an article a few days ago that claimed the Montana had the worse drivers in the US. Sorry but I still think it is Florida. Every time I have ridden through Florida, someone ALWAYS pulls out in front of my, like I don't exist.
I would have to agree. It is the most unintelligent free for all I've ever whitnessed. I'm not so worried until I get to the Lauderdale area. Then the scenery transitions from grandma in the left lane her head under her arm to illegal immigrants weaving in and out of traffic in blacked out BMW's with chrome wheels. Sigh...
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My advice: don't stop for school buses! The school teacher running late for work won't stop for school buses, and she certainly won't stop for you. Ask my first Norge how I know...
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Avoid riding at night when it's raining.
If you find yourself daydreaming, commute in a car.
Like the earlier poster said, if you can do a ride (mc)/ride (train) combo, could be the best of both.
If you stop loving the ride, stop riding.
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Thanks for jumping in with more advice, especially the experienced city riders. I feel stupid enough offering advice based on two trips to the big city. It would have been worse if you all hadn't joined in.
Matt
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Take a few side trips to find the route with fewest hazards. Find one that works, use it every day. Take note of construction, or road hazards on the return route side of the road, remove them if time permits. Make movements that alert oncoming cars to your presence.
I seldom ride on a Friday, because I work second shift at the airport. Even the oldsters I work with wanna hurry and get home to be with Mama, hit that bottle or bong. People get stupid on Friday. I drive my 4x4 on Friday. :laugh:
Good luck. Be sure your loved ones know your route in case you need assistance.
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I live 1:45 from Miami Airport where I'm based to which I travel 4-6 times per month. I usually take I 95 down. However, SFL drivers tend to become aggressive around the Fort Lauderdale area so I'm planning on driving inland and get there via country highways. This will tack on another hour at least. I'll be riding in a leather jacket and mesh over pants with EVA padding. The bike is a first gen Norge. I've got a north face rain jacket and I'll get some rain pants.
Any nuggets of wisdom and recommendations will be appreciated.
:1: to most of what has been said already. I regularly commuted in the DC area on both the interstates & on local roads for 20+ years & I'd add/reiterate that a white helmet & high-viz jacket seem to awaken a latent fear of police in many car drivers which often (not always) results in them giving a little more space & less aggression. I also found that adding a J&M CB on one side of my handlebars & a GPS on the other side made some of the more paranoid (i.e. chronically speeding) drivers calm down a bit. I had another motorcycle follow me for a couple of miles trying to figure out if I was a cop on an "unmarked" bike - he admitted as much at a light that caught both of us. Keeping the GPS on the computer readout instead of the map display also makes the instrument more official looking - is that a GPS or a radar detector....?
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"I live in Jackson Heights, which as you know is next door to Elmhurst.
I can't say that my experience is that New York drivers are a big happy family."
Rereading my post it does sound a little kum-ba-ya...
I just appreciate that New Yorkers don't jerk the wheel towards you, throw refuse at you, empty ashtrays into your path or open their door because they are stuck in traffic and you aren't. Looking at you, PA and NJ drivers!
One time I was picking my way through stopped traffic down the Queensboro bridge ramp into Manhattan when a disgruntled Asian woman laid on her horn as I passed -- It was my wife, she left 45 minutes before me and was 5 miles into a 40 mile commute to NJ.
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Make every effort to never sit motionless at traffic lights. Allow enough room to run-off if a car behind you is not going to stop. Google SMIDSY and employ the strategy.
At every stop, where you may become the meat in a sandwich, position yourself to run-off and pre determine which side.
If I'm obliged to stop, a car is in front, nothing behind, I'll stop 50 to 100 feet short, and watch my tail. As a car approaches from behind, I pulse my brakes, and as they near, roll forward, while not being obtrusive.
When obliged to roll to a stop in traffic with a car behind you, slow your roll rate to a crawl 30 or 40 feet from your intended stop point. Far too many auto drivers divert their attention to mobile devices in the last 10 feet of stopping and frequently creep into stopped vehicles. Force the car to stop a few feet earlier, without being obnoxious or obtrusive.
If filtering, and pulling to the head of the queue, select the vehicle least likely to be confruntive. If possible, a polite nod to the driver pays big rewards, and using a slow double glance to appear to be reading and memorizing the license plate, generally causes drivers to be less aggressive when the light goes green.
Command your lane.
If a vehicle is non aggressively tailgating, simply dropping a foot off a foot rest or appearing to be an inattentive rider will usually cause auto drivers to back off. This will work only a few times before the driver may get annoyed. If annoyed, move to the right and with slow, deliberate, non aggressive hand signals, direct the vehicle to overtake you. Do not appear annoyed, appear to be in command.
If on multi lane roads, in moderate traffic and I want a tailgater to over-take me, with deliberate motion, I will quickly look down at my front wheel, leaning my body well to each side of the bike, as if I have a mechanical problem. This is very effective at gaining attention and folks will back off promptly
Do not rely on bright colors, assuming you are being seen.
When riding in multi lane city traffic, where on-coming traffic can turn left, do not ride in a place where you are obscured by the vehicle in front of you. All too often a car waiting to turn left will make a quick movement having not seen the motorcycle following in the 'vision shadow' of a van or truck.
When riding in traffic, with cross streets, when possible, focus on stationary vehicles front wheel. You will see the wheel begin to rotate long before your eye will see the overall vehicle movement.
If it serves my safety, I'd rather appear to a car driver, as a novice rider than a rider that is being a butt or smart ass. Aggression usually causes more aggression, and as a two-wheeled soft shell crab, I don't want to fight a car.
Ciao,
Dick
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My attitude- I ride as though I am invisible (although I wear bright colors). My safety is 100% my responsibility an 0% everyone else around me. I never expect that anyone else on the road has my best interest in mind. I respect this notion, I do not fear it. When the time comes that I fear being on my motorcycle, that will be the time that I sell it.
Respect what happens on your commute. If there are more negatives than positives to what you propose, leave the bike at home. You only get one life.
Steve.
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Stay on the left side of your lane. On coming traffic can't see you on the right side of the lane and the center of the lane is where every cage leaks oil and other slippery fluids. Stay in the left lane and command your lane, keep a good distance from the car in front of you so everyone can see you and you have an escape route should you need it. I'm a country boy that hates driving anything in the city but find myself having to do it way too often. Bright lights "every where" and reflective clothing.
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All good advise. You might try David Huogh's book "Proficient Motorcycling". Knowledge learned after 25 years of motorcycle coummiting in Seattle. Considered a must read by plenty of motorcyclists.
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Thanks for the advice so far. Quite a few of the comments were things I hadn't thought of.
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I commuted to work from Elmhurst Queens to 106th street, upper West side of Manhattan for 15 years. Split lanes every day. The cabs split lanes when they can get away with it and no one freaks out. Many times the considerate cagers on my route would slide over to give me room or fold in their mirrors to ease my passage. New Yorkers share the road with everything from rollerbladers to souvlaki carts. The shy stay home and motorcyclists are nothing to get worked up about.
New Jersey and Pennsylvania? Ask Blackcat about lanesplitting with me down the Pennsylvania Turnpike...
Yeah, never be the one following in a lane splitting ride in PA as they get pissed at the lead rider and then attempt to kill the guy following him.
Commuting on a Norge is no picnic, but that is if you are lane splitting as I did in NYC. In my case it did slow me down which is a good thing. I don't know how acceptable it is south Florida, but if it is I would at least remove one of the bags until you get adjusted to the dance.
"I can't say that my experience is that New York drivers are a big happy family."
Compared to taking the subway, I find that riding a bike in the city is a better experience.
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Studies have shown a bright yellow helmet gets the most noticed by drivers. Anything to be seen.
Loud horns for the inattentive driver who starts to wander into your lane without looking. These things have saved me a couple of times.
Be aware and attentive. Ride defensively as if cars are going to do something unsafe towards you. Leave yourself plenty of room all aound.
Florida has crazy and inattentive drivers. I lived there over 30 years and know what you are dealing with.
Stay safe.
Mark
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99.9% of all of my motorcycle riding has been commuting or traveling on business. Traffic is traffic. Some days every jerk is going to cut you off and try to run you off the road. Other days they will back up to let you by and not tailgate you. I also find evening commute (especially Fri or day before a holiday) to be the worst for rabid drivers.
If you have a white Norge, then I'd get a white helmet. Doesn't hurt if someone thinks you're a cop. If not a white bike, then get high viz stuff. You are wearing leathers so get a good reflective vest to wear over the jacket.
Extra lights. I like a big triangle of lights in front. If riding at night then a big triangle of red lights in the back as well. I also apply reflective tape to the sides and back of my helmet as well as to the bike, side and rear especially.
Ride like you are invisible. Yes, everyone says it. Try it. Think about it every time a car comes near you or approaching any intersection. Especially where a parking lot feeds onto a main road. Think about it on the freeway when you want to ride between two cars. Every car next to you is going to move into your lane. Where are you going to go? On two lane roads, do not expect the guy behind you to slow down or stop. Slow down for traffic signals. Make it clear to the person behind you that you are ready to stop, not rush the yellow. The guy behind you will try to go through the interesection if the light turns yellow, even if you are in front of him.
Last NEVER stay in a blind spot for more than a split second.
Forgot one. Multi-lane road. Truck is in left turn lane waiting for a clear spot. You are in lane next to him going straight. The guy in the left turn lane coming at you CANNOT see you because of the truck!!! Move to the next lane or at least move as far right in your lane as you can. SLOW DOWN. Be ready to stop when the guy pulls into your lane to see around the truck.
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Read somewhere that white helmets are the most noticeable at farther distances.I also wear an orange vest.I know drivers see me but in colder weather I wear the black jacket too and it seemed they really noticed me.At least 2 people have pulled up next to me and said they thought I was police. Guys at work say I look like a dork with the vest.I don't care what I look like because I can't see me.Safety over ego.
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Make every effort to never sit motionless at traffic lights. Allow enough room to run-off if a car behind you is not going to stop. Google SMIDSY and employ the strategy.
Had never heard of SMIDSY before - http://www.roadsafety.mccofnsw.org.au/a/84.html
I go with the garish combination of a bright red bike and a bright yellow helmet. (Used to be bright) red Joe Rocket Ballistic armored jacket with reflective stripes.
No matter how you work on conspicuity, some ninny will not see you. Ride as if there are a highway full of ninnys who have more important things on their minds than your life (like watching TMZ on their phones).
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Yep, just ask ambulance drivers how many times people try and hit them, when they have all the lights and siren on!
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Change from staying in the left side of the lane to the right for tailgaters or weave. Do this if you have the green light at an intersection. This is so you don't blend in with the traffic behind you and they do a leftie in front of you. You're more visible to the traffic behind you too. The whoIle thing is to make yourself more visible.
I also create more of a claim to my right in traffic by making a little larger buffer zone in front and back of my bike. Drifting back behind the car in front of you, weaving in your lane and then nailing the throttle. Do this a couple of times and the car behind you will give you more room than tailgate you. If they're like some of the brain dead tourists out here. You'll need to do this a number of times.
Filtering in traffic is only legal in CA so if you do this consider the risks/rewards in other states. I've "lane split" I5 north of Seattle on a Friday afternoon. Always in NYC when traffic isn't moving. Depends on the traffic. Make it quick before the car drivers can react.
A while half helmet will definitely get their attention with a white Norge.
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*To a person, every co-worker that I have talked to about biking in has asked me about "that thing bikers do going between the cars", generally the first question out of their mouths. It pisses them off and I have to say, I can relate to their feelings. I tell them I do not do that, it's called "lane splitting" or "filtering", or if I do, it has to be in bumper to bumper traffic, and then at only a few miles per hour. I try to educate them about it, but for the most part, they want to know that I'm not the kind to go blasting down between lines of cars pissing them off.
Frankly, I don't understand why people get angry. Filtering doesn't affect them as they sit in traffic, in fact it eases congestion. They should be thanking you for riding a motorcycle. After all, you are both easing traffic congestion and reducing carbon emissions... all while having fun. :thumb:
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Frankly, I don't understand why people get angry. Filtering doesn't affect them as they sit in traffic, in fact it eases congestion. They should be thanking you for riding a motorcycle. After all, you are both easing traffic congestion and reducing carbon emissions... all while having fun. :thumb:
Yes I think you do understand.
It's the same reason that: people keep insufficient distance in rain, people are unable to see the benefit in keeping to the right, they slow way down to rubberneck, they put on makeup while driving, browse the internet.
When it comes to driving most people are plain dumb!
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Frankly, I don't understand why people get angry. Filtering doesn't affect them as they sit in traffic, in fact it eases congestion. They should be thanking you for riding a motorcycle. After all, you are both easing traffic congestion and reducing carbon emissions... all while having fun. :thumb:
I think that some people see filtering as "jumping the queue"/"butting in line".
In the many places where filtering is illegal, informed drivers may also see it as evidence that the rider has no respect for the rules of the road.
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I think that some people see filtering as "jumping the queue"/"butting in line".
In the many places where filtering is illegal, informed drivers may also see it as evidence that the rider has no respect for the rules of the road.
It seems to be perfectly OK when people break the law of the road but God forbid someone putt's past them while they are crawling along in stop and go traffic.
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I think that some people see filtering as "jumping the queue"/"butting in line".
In the many places where filtering is illegal, informed drivers may also see it as evidence that the rider has no respect for the rules of the road.
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Even if filtering is legal, it may not be the safest thing to do while commuting. An angry cager might try to take you out just for doing something he does not like. Witness the crazy Texas driver recently who swerved into the passing motorcycle, causing the rider and his passenger to crash and suffer injuries. (Fortunately, it was caught on film by another motorcyclist.)
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It seems to be perfectly OK when people break the law of the road but God forbid someone putt's past them while they are crawling along in stop and go traffic.
Presumably you will now endorse drivers of cars using their cell phones to talk and send text messages while they are in stop and go traffic.
Coincidentally, 20 minutes ago (well after dark) I watched a guy on a motorcycle in my neighborhood on 37th Avenue in Queens, on a dark bike wearing dark clothing, come off a red light and shortly after the intersection, pass, in the same lane (also known as filtering or lane splitting), at at least 25mph, the car immediately in front of him. The driver could not have had any idea that this was about to happen, and if he had moved his car to the left by a foot or two, maybe to turn left at the intersection 150' away (intersections on 37th Avenue are 250' apart), there would have been one hell of an accident.
This kind of behavior does not help the argument for making it legal, in New York, for cyclists and motorcyclists to pass other vehicles in the same lane, or straddling lanes (which comes to the same thing).
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Frankly, I don't understand why people get angry. Filtering doesn't affect them as they sit in traffic, in fact it eases congestion. They should be thanking you for riding a motorcycle. After all, you are both easing traffic congestion and reducing carbon emissions... all while having fun. :thumb:
I've learned a lot since I started riding. Filtering is legal in CA, and an expected practice in Europe and Asia. Drivers in those places tend to understand that motorcycles ease congestion, but then they live in more crowded circumstances with different economics on average. More people are likely to have ridden at least a scooter at some time in their lives, or know more than one or two that have. Well, maybe not CA.
They understand that letting the bike go on has little or no effect to their driving experience. That bike filtering past won't impede their progress through the light, down the highway, or whatever. The car in front of them won't be delayed any more, nor the car in front of that, nor the car in front of that.
But the rest of the world thinks you get in line and you wait your turn, no matter who you are. Limos don't give you the right to cut the line, nor do BMWs, Mercedes, Audis, Volvos, Caddilacs, or Lincolns. For that matter, what's good for cars is good for bikes. The car in front of me has the right of way, then I get that piece of road, then the car behind me. Anyone who cuts the line is an asshole. Who do they think they are, better than everyone else? Privleged? Or so the thinking goes...
So I sympathize with those that ask me. Tell them I don't do it. Then if they're still listening, I explain why riders do it, why it won't set them back, how successful it is where filtering is understood. Then I make a point of telling them that it's safe if done only a few mph above the traffic. Which reminds me...
... I was a kid working in a gas station when a guy on a bike decided to show how fast he could pass all that backed up traffic. About 1/4 from my station, he met the broadside of a pickup that had patiently crept along till he finally got to his destination and turned left.
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I've learned a lot since I started riding. Filtering is legal in CA, and an expected practice in Europe and Asia. Drivers in those places tend to understand that motorcycles ease congestion, but then they live in more crowded circumstances with different economics on average. More people are likely to have ridden at least a scooter at some time in their lives, or know more than one or two that have. Well, maybe not CA.
They understand that letting the bike go on has little or no effect to their driving experience. That bike filtering past won't impede their progress through the light, down the highway, or whatever. The car in front of tehem won't be delayed any more, nor the car in front of that, nor the car in front of that.
But the rest of the world thinks you get in line and you wait your turn, no matter who you are. Limos don't give you the right to cut the line, nor do BMWs, Mercedes, Audis, Volvos, Caddilacs, or Lincolns. For that matter, what's good for cars is good for bikes. The car in front of me has the right of way, then I get that piece of road, then the car behind me. Anyone who cuts the line is an asshole. Who do they think they are, better than everyone else? Privleged? Or so the thinking goes...
So I sympathize with those that ask me. Tell them I don't do it. Then if they're still listening, I explain why riders do it, why it won't set them back, how successful it is where filtering is understood. Then I make a point of telling them that it's safe if done only a few mph above the traffic. Which reminds me...
... I was a kid working in a gas station when a guy on a bike decided to show how fast he could pass all that backed up traffic. About 1/4 from my station, he met the broadside of a pickup that had patiently crept along till he finally got to his destination and turned left.
This is a terrific analysis of the psychology. The only thing I'd add is that my experience in Europe is that the tolerance for motorcycles, and indeed bicycles, outside cities, is lower than one might think.
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Presumably you will now endorse drivers of cars using their cell phones to talk and send text messages while they are in stop and go traffic.
Coincidentally, 20 minutes ago (well after dark) I watched a guy on a motorcycle in my neighborhood on 37th Avenue in Queens, on a dark bike wearing dark clothing, come off a red light and shortly after the intersection, pass, in the same lane (also known as filtering or lane splitting), at at least 25mph, the car immediately in front of him. The driver could not have had any idea that this was about to happen, and if he had moved his car to the left by a foot or two, maybe to turn left at the intersection 150' away (intersections on 37th Avenue are 250' apart), there would have been one hell of an accident.
This kind of behavior does not help the argument for making it legal, in New York, for cyclists and motorcyclists to pass other vehicles in the same lane, or straddling lanes (which comes to the same thing).
You really should consider selling your bike or moving to a more sedate area of the country.
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If an alternative safer motorcycle route added an 2 hours daily to the trip, I'd drive a car to and from on the shortest route possible. Then when I got home I'd go for a 2 hour ride on roads that were fun.
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If an alternative safer motorcycle route added an 2 hours daily to the trip, I'd drive a car to and from on the shortest route possible. Then when I got home I'd go for a 2 hour ride on roads that were fun.
The lucky thing here is that the route in question is fun and that it adds an hour in any one given day. I leave for a few days at a time.
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I'm going 100 miles to LAX tonight for a red-eye East-bound flight. It'll be late enough that I won't need to split lanes - but I do regularly split lanes (legal in California). I'm an advocate for doing it safely, and I think the AMA's position is quite good:
http://americanmotorcyclist.com/rights/positionstatements/lanesplitting.aspx
Check your local airport for free motorcycle parking rules. Here are the rules for Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).
http://www.lawa.org/welcome_lax.aspx?id=8702
Free parking in the closest spot to the terminal... no parking-lot shuttle bus for me... :grin:
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I'm going 100 miles to LAX tonight for a red-eye East-bound flight. It'll be late enough that I won't need to split lanes - but I do regularly split lanes (legal in California). I'm an advocate for doing it safely, and I think the AMA's position is quite good:
http://americanmotorcyclist.com/rights/positionstatements/lanesplitting.aspx
Check your local airport for free motorcycle parking rules. Here are the rules for Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).
http://www.lawa.org/welcome_lax.aspx?id=8702
Free parking in the closest spot to the terminal... no parking-lot shuttle bus for me... :grin:
:thumb: :bike-037:
Parking is right next to the terminal which probably shaves off 15 minutes if you account for undressing.
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I commute 75Km's each way every day. My tips are keep your cool, being right can still hurt. Learn and understand driver behaviour and pick you place / lane etc to reflect this. Have some decent rain gear, a pinlock for a full face helmet, I lane split only when traffic is stationary and always acknowledge a driver that give you that little bit of extra space. Most of all relax and enjoy the ride.
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I live in Stuart, and make the trip to MIA a few times a year on my MG. Really, anywhere in South Florida is a minefield, especially during the winter with all the snowbirds. Not sure of any backroads you can take south to MIA. Perhaps 441? I wear a high viz helmut, ATGAT and installed a horn that would wake the dead, along with two very very bright LED driving lights. I can swear these lights catch the attention of drivers, who might otherwise 'look through' the single headlight plus I flash my high beam and blow the horn as a precautionary measure whenever approaching most intersections or overtaking. I would rather have someone look at me and wonder what all the noise was about instead of them not seeing me. Driving in S. Florida is like driving in Italy, every man for themselves. Keep a very safe distance, put distance between you and idiot drivers who make you nervous and by all means consider every car the enemy. Ride safe but ride smart! BTW where are you commenting from?
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I commute 100 miles a day all year, all weather, except ice. Some thoughts:
--here's the single best tip I ever heard. Took me a while to get it. -->It's all your fault <--
You are 100% responsible. If you crash, it's your fault. Get out of the ingrained mind-set that thinks about who is legally at fault, who is being an "idiot," who should get a ticket, etc.
STOP. None of that matters. It's your job to avoid all incidents, so put 100% responsibility on yourself, and accept it. Don't think "that idiot cut me off." Think "I screwed up by not anticipating that he would cut me off, and I failed to have an escape path." Don't think "stupid rain made pavement paint slippery," instead think "I should have recognized the loss of traction the rain would cause."
--Strongly agree with prior poster about defensive use of horn. We are taught not to honk, and to be quiet, for car driving. I say different rules for bikes. I'm pretty noisy. Not rude and pushy--but I'll make some noise if spider sense tells me I'm about to be ignored.
--I'd also suggest utterly mastering your route. First, pick the safest route, and optimize it. But also study and master the chosen route. Don't go brain dead and just mindlessly ride the path and deal with traffic. Study it, each day, both ways. Where have you seen accidents? Where are the typical snarls and slow-downs? Low spots that catch water? Badly marked exits? Be an observant Sherlock Holmes, and seek out every clue that can enhance your survival. Since you will basically ride the same route constantly, use that to your advantage, and master every aspect of that route.
--keep a list of your screw-ups and mistakes, and review them regularly, so you don't repeat them and always improve. I actually write mine down. Same for "close calls." There should not be too many "close calls," but the ones you do experience should be studied. As in--"I screwed this up by letting the situation get that bad. My mistakes were x, y, and z. I will now resolve to be better at q."
--I'm not sure how to describe this, but I suggest you learn to be "aggressively decisive." Don't fret and curse that dodgy guy behind you who seems to be tailgating at times--get away from him now. I used to be nice, and give other drivers multiple chances, and then when they finally wore out my patience, then I'd finally do something. No more. Do it once, or give me any indication you are dodgy, and I'm immediately gone. Don't hesitate to accelerate, brake, maneuver, honk, wave your arms, etc.
--ride the traffic gaps. There are almost always bubbles or gaps in traffic, where there aren't many cars. Find them, and surf them.
--give yourself daily challenges to improve your riding. This keeps you alert, and improving skill set.
--Look for buddies. There really are some good, caring drivers out there. Let them help you, if possible. Sometimes I'll get somebody behind me who is clearly paying attention, maintaining a safe following distance. Even though I might prefer to go a bit faster, I often don't--why should I lose my safe rear blocker?
--don't "push." Don't be impatient, cut corners, try to shave time, beat lights, etc. I think you should usually feel that you would be perfectly happier to be going 5 mph slower if the risk profile was clearly better. You get in trouble when you "push" for that extra 5 or 10 mph, and fail to heed the increased risk burden to are trading to get the extra speed.
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Damn Prescott , that was perfect :bow: As an aside , I am always irritated when the weather is blamed for an accident .
Dusty
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Other than a sinkhole opening up on you, or a rockslide coming down on you, there is no such thing as an 'accident'. Ride defensively, people. It doesn't really matter whose fault it is, you are the one who loses!
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Other than a sinkhole opening up on you, or a rockslide coming down on you, there is no such thing as an 'accident'. Ride defensively, people. It doesn't really matter whose fault it is, you are the one who loses!
Bill , you forgot the stray meteorite :laugh:
Dusty
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Speaking of filtering, last summer, on I-5 South near Wilsonville, Oregon, traffic was nearly at a standstill (as it usually is). Three very mean-looking pirates on H-Ds road down the left shoulder of the freeway, to the left of the "fast" lane, single file, at a moderate pace. No foolish drivers tried to stop them by swerving left in front of or into them. I wonder why?
I hate to think that an aggressive appearance or commanding presence helps with commuting on a motorcycle, but perhaps it does.
Back on a white Norge these past few days, I have noticed again that cars get out of my way when I come up behind them, and speeders coming up alongside of me on the left suddenly stop speeding. I wonder why? They never do that when I am on my Vespa!
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This is a thread with a lot of good info.
I commute by Guzzi often in Houston, I consider this town to be turning into Mexico City North traffic-wise. Right now, when commuting, I try to concentrate on creating enough space in front to give me to give a little extra reaction time, stay out of tight spaces, don't be too agressive and be as visible as possible (in riding attire and staying out of blind spots, etc.).
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Stay on the left side of your lane. On coming traffic can't see you on the right side of the lane and the center of the lane is where every cage leaks oil and other slippery fluids. Stay in the left lane and command your lane, keep a good distance from the car in front of you so everyone can see you and you have an escape route should you need it. I'm a country boy that hates driving anything in the city but find myself having to do it way too often. Bright lights "every where" and reflective clothing.
This theory about staying in the left side of your lane needs to be qualified IMO. I have seen far too many riders ride the left lane and drift dangerously close to oncoming traffic and I have witnessed a biker getting taken out by a driver who was on the phone while driving and only crossed the center line by not much. IF the biker had moved to the right lane he would be alive today. IMO there are times to ride the left and times to ride the right. For me, when on a two lane road with on-coming traffic I ride the left when there is no traffic close by, but when a car/truck is approaching I move to the right until they pass. I goes without saying that I never tailgate so i give myself plenty of room to see around the cars in front. In todays world there are far too many cage drivers being distracted while driving and it only takes seconds for them to cross that line....
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I live 1:45 from Miami Airport where I'm based to which I travel 4-6 times per month. I usually take I 95 down. However, SFL drivers tend to become aggressive around the Fort Lauderdale area so I'm planning on driving inland and get there via country highways. This will tack on another hour at least. I'll be riding in a leather jacket and mesh over pants with EVA padding. The bike is a first gen Norge. I've got a north face rain jacket and I'll get some rain pants.
Any nuggets of wisdom and recommendations will be appreciated.
Thank you.
In heavy rush hour traffic on the free way I always run in the far left lane postured in the far left part of that lane.
This gives you the shoulder as an out quickly and one less lane of traffic to potentially deal with.
Its about the law of attrition...
If you are in heavy rush hour traffic and in the far left commuter lane and its traffic (and you) can go much faster compared to the next lane over (the fast lane) and the fast lane is almost stopped or very slow.
People get anxious and impatient in the fast lane and sometimes bolt out into the commuter lane.
I slow down to at most pass at about 20 or 30 mph past the traffic in the lane to my right, I also run as far left in the left lane.
this gives you the shoulder and maximum time to avoid a potential car moving into your lane.
I also potentially run the high beams in this situation.
Again its about the law of attrition...
These two above rules have saved me multiple times over 20 years riding in high density urban freeways in nasty Seattle traffic.
One time frankly I was in the far right lane in high density traffic (running far right very close to the shoulder) and a 18 wheeler decided he was pissed off and blew right out in front of me from the next lane to the left.
I was on a bike with amazing brakes, however I swerved into the right shoulder hard and hammered the brakes...even with that bike I was half way into the 18 wheeler but next to him in the shoulder.
So the shoulder is a life saver for me.. above rules I very RARELY ignore.. Most times even in the car, I run the same way.. and its saved me many a times from people.
I read a good article in "rider" magazine or one of those a while back about being "dead wrong"
Meaning always be on your guard and assume everyone will not obey traffic laws or common sense...be ready to make a move.
Being right (meaning you were right in the eyes of the court), but dead because they did not obey traffic laws etc...well you ultimately lose anyways.
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I also used to have a all white KLR 650 with black hard saddle bags and trunk with a black tank bag.
Black helmet, pants etc.
For the longest time I couldn't understand why on the freeway everyone did the speed limit of 60 mph where everyone runs 70 normally when I was riding that bike.
I thought it was great as the KLR likes 60 but struggles at 70 or 75.
One day I pulled up to the house and the wife and sister-in-law was in the hot tub..
Sister in law tells wife that it looks like a cop just pulled up (her sister never saw my bike or gear before that).
So that was really funny! I never put it together that by accident I resembled the LEO.
So maybe resembling the LEO can be a tactic..
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I didn't click on this thread because I've been a tad busy the last few days. There's a lot of good advice, and some of which I think is overboard but fair enough.
The only thing(s) I'll add that I didn't notice (maybe I missed) are:
A. Commute off-hours if possible. Traffic can be dramatically different with an hour or so swing in either direction.
B. BAGS... you want BIG BAGS, hard, locking, waterproof bags that can hold a change of clothing, additional layers or rain gear, and anything else you want to take with you.
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A. Commute off-hours if possible. Traffic can be dramatically different with an hour or so swing in either direction.
LOL there are NO off-hours in South Florida on the major roads with the possible exception of 1am to 5am! :grin:
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Anticipate stupidity. The gentleman was correct regarding Friday drivers driving like hell on the way home. It is a good car day. I question the risk / benefit of motorcycle commuting on a regular basis. I am able to work 6 am. to 3 pm which removes me from heavy (stop and go) traffic. If I were riding in traffic jams regularly I would buy a used Corolla to commute in instead.