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Title: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on December 01, 2015, 08:42:18 PM
http://asheville.craigslist.org/mcd/5303526031.html

Don't know the bike or seller.  Pics look pretty nice. Asking $5300.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: John Ulrich on December 01, 2015, 09:30:12 PM
Dual disk front end is worth a few dollars.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: arveno on December 01, 2015, 10:04:50 PM
at 5300 is not a steal.... don't mention anything about bores. ( chrome ? iron sleeve ? )
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Tom on December 02, 2015, 01:33:23 AM
Not oem front end.  IIRC.  Someone can correct me.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 02, 2015, 08:47:33 AM
Not oem front end.  IIRC.  Someone can correct me.

Other than the addition of a second disc and caliper, it looks like a stock disc Loop front end.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Tom on December 02, 2015, 05:09:45 PM
Disc brakes on a '72 Eldo?  Wasn't '75 first year? and like you said an added disc.  Could be a later year Eldo front end with added disc but not '72 oem.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on December 02, 2015, 06:57:27 PM
I've been curious to check out this new shop, ill swing by, check it out and report back...  I'm no loop expert but I do have an AMBO barnfind in my storage unit.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 02, 2015, 08:07:31 PM
Disc brakes on a '72 Eldo?  Wasn't '75 first year? and like you said an added disc.  Could be a later year Eldo front end with added disc but not '72 oem.

'74 was the first year with a disc brake, yes it's a '74 front end on a '72. I think you mean "o.e." (original equipment) vs. "o.e.m." (original equipment manufacturer).
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Tom on December 03, 2015, 12:08:13 AM
Still not 1972 Eldorado oem. 
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 03, 2015, 08:32:34 AM
Still not 1972 Eldorado oem.

Not o.e. on a '72 Eldo, but it is made by the o.e.m..  :evil:
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: sidecarnutz on December 03, 2015, 09:26:20 AM
Damn...... You people pick enough nits here that I think you'd be better off wearing flea collars!
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Roebling3 on December 03, 2015, 10:47:22 AM
I've an Eldo owning friend in Asheville.  He says stay away. Stay far away. Most of the problems are electrical including -/+ mis-connected at battery. The cross shaft bushing on the shift linkage is so loose you cannot find any gear. A low value parts bike in his view.  Local mechanic will not touch it.  R3~   
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: arveno on December 03, 2015, 11:53:35 AM
I've an Eldo owning friend in Asheville.  He says stay away. Stay far away. Most of the problems are electrical including -/+ mis-connected at battery. The cross shaft bushing on the shift linkage is so loose you cannot find any gear. A low value parts bike in his view.  Local mechanic will not touch it.  R3~

I think your friend is full of ..................

no offence .
And local mechanic don't touch it because they are not competent .

ciao
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Tom on December 04, 2015, 12:56:54 PM
Not o.e. on a '72 Eldo, but it is made by the o.e.m..  :evil:

Still a modified '72 Eldo with non-'72 parts.  That would need to disclosed in a sale to unknowing individuals.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on December 04, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
I think your friend is full of ..................

no offence .
And local mechanic don't touch it because they are not competent .

ciao

If this is the same eldo owner I am thinking of... he is most deff not full of shit.

Please tell us who is a competent mechanic to work on Guzzi in Asheville? 
There are three I know of:

one is awesome mostly does Brit bikes but knows ducs and some guzzi stuff.. good work fair prices, and clear communication (Jake Hall at Hall's Custom Vintage)

one seems flaky and picky about what work he will take (has a euro car biz on the side)

the third used to work at a former guzzi dealership that has since gone under (even after they dropped guzzi) and he now wrenches on BMW (I had a terrible experience with him and his service dept)
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: oldbike54 on December 04, 2015, 01:21:27 PM
I think your friend is full of ..................

no offence .
And local mechanic don't touch it because they are not competent .

ciao

 Saying "no offence" after making an offensive statement doesn't mean we didn't mean to offend , only that we don't want to own the statement .

  Dusty
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: nunzio on December 04, 2015, 03:02:39 PM
Saying "no offence" after making an offensive statement doesn't mean we didn't mean to offend , only that we don't want to own the statement .

  Dusty

Saying "no offence" always cracks me up!!!!

Thanks for the laugh... guys !!!!!




Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: oldbike54 on December 04, 2015, 03:08:02 PM
Saying "no offence" always cracks me up!!!!

Thanks for the laugh... guys !!!!!

 Yeah , no offense , but you Texans are all ... oh never mind , I like most of you guys , heck , only a shallow ditch separates Oklahoma and Texas .

  Dusty
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 04, 2015, 04:54:29 PM
Still a modified '72 Eldo with non-'72 parts.  That would need to disclosed in a sale to unknowing individuals.

Using that logic, if I sell "Barney" again, I'll have to tell anyone interested that it has a '70 engine and transmission in a '71 frame, with '73 tank and front fender, '74 rear fender and a bunch of bits and pieces of unknown age.  :grin: Some poor sucker might think it was all from the same year.  :wink:

The previous owner knew all of that since he had read "The Barney Blog".

Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Perazzimx14 on December 04, 2015, 06:00:14 PM
I've an Eldo owning friend in Asheville.  He says stay away. Stay far away. Most of the problems are electrical including -/+ mis-connected at battery. The cross shaft bushing on the shift linkage is so loose you cannot find any gear. A low value parts bike in his view.  Local mechanic will not touch it.  R3~

One call to Greg Bender and around $300 later all your wiring problems are a thing of the past. A 42+ year old bike would certainly benefit from a new harness/sub harness. I know mine did :thumb:

Still a modified '72 Eldo with non-'72 parts.  That would need to disclosed in a sale to unknowing individuals.

No matter if you put a GSXR motor in the frame and converted it to belt drive it'd still be a 1972 Moto Guzzi Eldorado. No where did the seller post the bike was 100% original and quite honestly would believe that that statement on a 42  year old motorcycle? 
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: nunzio on December 04, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Yeah , no offense , but you Texans are all ... oh never mind , I like most of you guys , heck , only a shallow ditch separates Oklahoma and Texas .

  Dusty

None taken !!!

The older I get... the less I'm offended (Read give a shit) by stuff or what people say.


I guess I'm just too happy I'm still around to be insulted !!!!! ;)

I put " no offence"  in the same league as  "It's not about the money"

Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Tom on December 05, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
Using that logic, if I sell "Barney" again, I'll have to tell anyone interested that it has a '70 engine and transmission in a '71 frame, with '73 tank and front fender, '74 rear fender and a bunch of bits and pieces of unknown age.  :grin: Some poor sucker might think it was all from the same year.  :wink:

The previous owner knew all of that since he had read "The Barney Blog".

Depends on how you sell the bike.  Like you said "The Barney Blog" spells it out.  Any buyer should be asking about the particulars of vehicle in general.  To accept what the seller is putting 100% is foolish.  Caveat emptor. 
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on December 05, 2015, 12:54:17 PM
Thing is - I doubt anyone buying a '72 Eldorado is going to be unhappy when they find out it should have had a drum-brake front end instead of a dual-disc front end. More likely, they'll be dancing with joy...  :grin:
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Tom on December 05, 2015, 01:11:21 PM
True.  Then you have idiots like me that want original for vintage and classic looks/value although I like what Greg Fields did with his Eldo.  Essentially what the factory has finally done with their current Eldo.  His has a V11 LM front-end and upgraded shocks.  He also made his wheels tubeless.
Title: Re: 72 Eldo in Asheville NC
Post by: Tom on December 05, 2015, 01:15:57 PM
Forgot to add that the drum brakes on a Loop have to be ridden to understand the gearbox w/heavy flywheel engine braking style of riding.