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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: sonotx on December 05, 2015, 03:35:38 PM
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Not too tech savvy, but have jumped cars before.
Haven't ridden in 6 weeks. Now goes into some start/electrical seizure with alot of clicking when I try to turn it on. No signs of the engine trying to turn over though. I'm assuming the battery is nearly dead. I looked in the manual and it mentions how to remove/jump the battery. After that I figure I'll just connect it to a car battery but keep the car off. Then try and start the bike and let it run for a few minutes.
I've gotten stuck though, can't figure out how to remove the R side panel. Can anyone just walk me through the process? Any other ideas if this does not sound like a simple jump the battery issue?
Thanks!
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Find a hill. Once on th move go buy a battery tender preferably from a shop at the top of another hill. Pay the extra $10 for one with a recovery mode.
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Removing right side panel is easy. There is one Allen bolt on the front side, facing the front wheel. Remove it. The panel is now only held in place by two rubber grommets. Gently pry the side cover off.
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Yep, get a battery tender with a wire harness to the battery for a quick hook up and keep it plugged in if sitting that long. Your battery might be ka-put, you might want to get it load tested at a auto parts store after a good overnight charging. Sorry, can't help with the Tupperware side cover.
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Try charging the battery up. if the bike then starts check the voltage at the battery posts with a volt meter, it should be about 13.5V @ 3,500RPM if the voltage doesn't change with engine speed the reg/rec is probably dead.
Charge the battery first, it may just be flat. If it does need a new battery make sure you read the instructions on how to put it in to service.
Pete
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Got it, I'm going to grab that battery tender. I'd rather not have to remove the battery obviously. Does the side panel still need removal to get access to the terminals? Once I can see the terminals I can take it from there, but not sure how many steps need to be taken to get to that point.
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Yes, you still need to remove the right side cover. If your battery is stone dead (ha, ha), the Tender may not be enough. They're meant to keep it topped off with a charge, not bring it back to life.
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If you aren't too worried about your bike not starting when you need to go somewhere because you have other transportation, sure , charge it when you can and use the existing battery.
If you do need dependable starting, get a good new battery and keep it maintained. A good AGM does not need to sit on a battery tender, get abgood charger with the correct charging current for the battery. Once a month give it a charge if you aren't riding it often.
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Between work vehicles and motor toys we have 14 DelTran Battery Tenders going whenever something is parked. Always hooked up.
We have not purchased a battery due to failure since 2001.
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Look around the house, see if you have an old 12 Volt wall wort from a printer or something.
Chop the 12V connector off and connect the wires to the battery.
The wire with a stripe is usually positive.
Even it the battery is dead flat a wall wort will try to charge it.
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Look around the house, see if you have an old 12 Volt wall wort from a printer or something.
Chop the 12V connector off and connect the wires to the battery.
The wire with a stripe is usually positive.
Even it the battery is dead flat a wall wort will try to charge it.
This is an excellent tip.
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There may be one more issue at play: Your battery may be sulfated. This happens mostly to batteries that see deeper discharge cycles than normal.
When discharged, batteries have sulfur crystals build up on the lead plates over time and they lose capacity, when this happens they hold less amp hours and may appear to be going dead. The way to fix this is to use a charger that can de-sulfate your battery, and it does so by a controlled over-charge that causes the sulfur to go back into the acid.
I recently had this happen to the Breva even though I ride it regularly. I thought I needed a new battery, but I took it to the local shop and they brought it back from the dead and charged me zero dollars.
Before you ask, a battery tender does not have the juice to desulfate your battery, it's always a good idea to desulfate your battery at least once a year. Using a tender will prevent the sulfating problem though
I used to run a solar power system that used 8 huge deep discharge batteries and they needed it every 3 months or so.
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Right on. There are "tender" type devices from DelTran and others that, for an up-charge, offer a de-sulfer cycle. We had success with one of these at a friends shop with a neglected battery but that's the limit of my experience with that function.
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This is important. If using a car or truck to jump, do not do so with the donor vehicle engine running. The high amperage current will damage your bikes regulator/rectifier. Bike components are not designed for 80 amps.
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Where you from sonotx? If close I'll give you a hand.
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What's a wall wort?
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Battery tender arrived, works now! Easy install and a good purchase to have for winter storage. Thanks guys!
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What's a wall wort?
A wall wort is a plug in step down transformer like a cell phone charger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_adapter
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A wall wort is a plug in step down transformer like a cell phone charger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_adapter
That's right, I doubt a cell charger would work though, look out for an older style from a printer or some larger appliance it must have a transformer in it, you can tell that by the weight.
Look for one thats rated 12 Volts and at least 250 mA, the more the better.
Battery tenders get confused if the battery is dead flat, they won't start charging a 12V battery if they think its a 6V.
A 12V Wall Wart will put out about 14 Volts.
I'm not a fan of leaving a battery tender on 24/7, I have one because I needed a charger riding the new to me EV back from Denver, I only use it if I know a battery is in need of a top up.
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This is important. If using a car or truck to jump, do not do so with the donor vehicle engine running. The high amperage current will damage your bikes regulator/rectifier. Bike components are not designed for 80 amps.
:1: If you have to jump start its best to use another motorcycle but if you have to use a automobile DO NOT leave the motor running.