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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Farmer Dan on December 23, 2015, 06:58:00 AM
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Could not find a gun thread so I thought I would start one. I was born and raised around guns and have a few in my meager collection. Being a retired Marine I figured it was time I picked up a Thompson M1. A nice present for myself.
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You would not believe how much fun this is to shoot. Good thing I reload .45acp ammo because she uses a lot of it :-)
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Very nice and a few $$$.
GliderJohn
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Cool! The original models with the finned barrels are huge money. I was surprised at how heavy they are. No polymer nut in there!
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Dan, is a special licence needed ?
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Dan, is a special licence needed ?
No special license needed. The new productions Thompson's are semi-auto and have a 16.5" barrel so all you need is lots of cash. If you want the model 1927 (finned barrel and drum magazine) plan to spend about $2000, the M1 is about $1400. I'm doing the paperwork now so I can get the barrel cut down to the military spec of 10.5".
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Nice Christmas gift! I've bought a few airguns recently to goof around in the backyard with. The broomhandle Mauser is a hoot in full auto but empties the mag in about 2 seconds. Hopefully the neighbors remain calm, I turn my stereo up real loud first! :thewife:
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Very neat Thompson. Always liked those.
Yes, I am a collector, of sorts. Mostly old S&W revolvers and Swedish/Norwegian firearms. (Hence the forum name "SmithSwede") Also old Colt revolvers.
I'm more of a competitive shooter than a purist collector. Bullseye pistol (usually with revolvers), ICORE, IDPA, and high-power rifle, both OTC and long range.
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Thumbs up for going the SBR route with it. Take it back to its proper form.
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I only have weapons for personal defence, home defense, hunting and protecting the US constitution.
SSgt, USMC-Retired
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I ran the armory at the 57th MP/Honor Guard Company, USMA...back in the 70/80s. Because we were a 24 hour operation, firearms bound for the West Point Museum would often come through us. One memorable night, a beautiful '20s-vintage Thompson was dropped off. It was pristine, with a finned/tapered barrel, compensator, walnut furniture, and a 50 round drum. Holding that piece of history, I felt like John Dillinger. It was weighty and really solid feeling...I'm sure it handled better on full auto than the flimsy M3 Grease Gun I shot years later. Classic Americana...
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I collect shotguns and have a fondness for trap guns especially Perazzi's. I have a MX14 and the wife has an MX8-B.
I have/had about $9,000 into my Perazzi MX14 and it was the lower end of the mid-range priced trap gun spectrum. When the wife and I would travel to shoots with a couple of friends it was nothing to have $40,00 or $50,000+ worth of guns in the car.
I also have really like Remington 870 Wingmaster's. Have them in 12, 16, 28 & .410. Need a 20 gauge to round out the collection.
Gun can become an addiction just like motorcycles.
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Yup.
Black ones preferably.
+ Handguns and revolvers
+ Odd balls (like OA93 or Springfield Armory folding Survival M6)
+ Few Sniper/Target rifles (Sako TRG22, M28-76, Sniper M39)
+ WW2 Finnish military rifles and pistols, mainly Mosin Nagants and various Lahti's...(M31's, M35)
+ shiny ones, if I cannot buy black ones.....
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No special license needed. The new productions Thompson's are semi-auto and have a 16.5" barrel so all you need is lots of cash. If you want the model 1927 (finned barrel and drum magazine) plan to spend about $2000, the M1 is about $1400. I'm doing the paperwork now so I can get the barrel cut down to the military spec of 10.5".
For an "original" Tommy Gun, you better add another zero. If you're lucky.
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For an "original" Tommy Gun, you better ad another zero. If you're lucky.
A friend of mine (RIP) Dang! this is getting old.. had one. It just felt right. Know what I mean? Lovely machine.
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Used to consider myself a collector/shooter but gravitated towards reloading a while back. Was mainly into single and double action revolvers and lever guns but went in several directions when I found something that interested me. Now I consider myself a reloader that dabbles in guns. Current obsession is the .327 Federal Magnum which has led me to buy 4 revolvers of said caliber in the last 5 months.
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Used to consider myself a collector/shooter but gravitated towards reloading a while back. Was mainly into single and double action revolvers and lever guns but went in several directions when I found something that interested me. Now I consider myself a reloader that dabbles in guns. Current obsession is the .327 Federal Magnum which has led me to buy 4 revolvers of said caliber in the last 5 months.
Yeah, I like reloading, too. There's something about it.. takes your undivided attention for a while. :smiley:
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Yup.
Black ones preferably.
+ Handguns and revolvers
+ Odd balls (like OA93 or Springfield Armory folding Survival M6)
+ Few Sniper/Target rifles (Sako TRG22, M28-76, Sniper M39)
+ WW2 Finnish military rifles and pistols, mainly Mosin Nagants and various Lahti's...(M31's, M35)
+ shiny ones, if I cannot buy black ones.....
Do you have a Lahti? Anything resembling a Luger is steam punk cool now. Did you notice the impression in the holster?
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Do you have a Lahti? Anything resembling a Luger is steam punk cool now. Did you notice the impression in the holster?
Do I have a Lahti?
Do Finns piss in snow? :grin: :grin:
Sure. Here's couple. 2 big ones and a little brother.
L35 is post war, 1950's production, with SA (Finnish Military) holster.
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I been collecting guns lately.....but nothing collectible per se.
Latest purchase to keep my two Ruger SP101's in line......
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S&W 686 5" Talo 7-shooter
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I'm also a bullseye shooter and reload but my favorite is probably old .22 target rifles.
A couple years ago I picked up this .45 burner though, an MPA 45 pistol (MAC10 lookalike) but then picked up the carbine parts as well.
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I have been into guns since I was a kid. These days I am involved in competitive rifle shooting. Buffalo rifles like the Sharps and Rolling Blocks are shot from 200 to 1000 yards with open sights. Same for vintage military rifles like the O3-A3 Springfield, Swiss K31, Lee Enfield,K98 Mauser and many others from different countries. For a while I was into building AK-47 platform rifles from demilled parts kits using semi auto after market receivers to replace the cut up originals. A few of these were military configurations that were other wise unavailable here in the US. Commonly known as Krinks they require Class III paper work to be legal due to the short barrels. Gun collecting can be quite an addiction indeed.
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Marines can never have enough guns. I have 18 at last count. None with paper trail but the last one--I like pre-1964 Winchesters (have 5) and last June bought a spiffy 1952 Mdl. 52 .22LR target rifle with 16x Weaver T-16 scope. It sits in my safe alongside the Mdls 1890, 63, 71 and 24 (16ga). Two custom 03 Sporters, 1873 Trapdoor Springfield carbine, 1865 Spencer 11 shot repeating carbine,1838 Edwin Wesson (brother of Frank of S&W fame) percussion rifle (.38 or .40 cal), plus a herd of 1950s-70s Smiths and some older Colts and somehow a Glock 30 snuck in there and a Ruger "Bearcat", to go with the Ruger Mini-30. I think that's all of them. Oh, the Remington 742 Fieldmaster.22. Maybe that's all of them. Well, I think so. It's kinda dark in the back of the gun safe, which is right next to my 04 Stone Touring (Guzzi content?).
Ralph
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One recent purchase, a Hi Standard Model "A". Silly, I should probably get a Ruger instead but I like the old American feel, this may be the heaviest .22 auto pistol I've had!
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7 shot revolvers and .327 magnums? Wow, I've never heard of either one and had to wiki them. Interesting stuff.
I thought I would add that the local motorcycle club of old farts and classic bike riders is having our monthly dinner at the Wilshire Gun Range (OKC). It combines a gun range with a bar and grill. I don't think you're allowed to drink before you shoot but you never know. I might try my pedestrian .357 Trooper and .22 Mk III but I am kinda a tightwad.
Anyway, I usually don't drink more than a single beer and ride a motorcycle.
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Marines can never have enough guns. I have 18 at last count. None with paper trail but the last one--I like pre-1964 Winchesters (have 5) and last June bought a spiffy 1952 Mdl. 52 .22LR target rifle with 16x Weaver T-16 scope. It sits in my safe alongside the Mdls 1890, 63, 71 and 24 (16ga). Two custom 03 Sporters, 1873 Trapdoor Springfield carbine, 1865 Spencer 11 shot repeating carbine,1838 Edwin Wesson (brother of Frank of S&W fame) percussion rifle (.38 or .40 cal), plus a herd of 1950s-70s Smiths and some older Colts and somehow a Glock 30 snuck in there and a Ruger "Bearcat", to go with the Ruger Mini-30. I think that's all of them. Oh, the Remington 742 Fieldmaster.22. Maybe that's all of them. Well, I think so. It's kinda dark in the back of the gun safe, which is right next to my 04 Stone Touring (Guzzi content?).
Ralph
"None with paper trail but the last one"
Until Now...Just Saying
Alan
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I don't know about "collecting" so much as amassing.
I recently started to reign back when I contemplated buying a third safe for the shop. Moving things un touched in years to get to another something was getting old.
Somethings however, take up so little room as to warrant liberal indulgence, forbearance... tolerance?
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Todd.
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"None with paper trail but the last one"
Until Now...Just Saying
Alan
Expected this, but no serial #s, etc.
Ralph
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A nice present for myself.
Since it's Christmas it must be said: "You'll shoot your eye out kid."
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Used to consider myself a collector/shooter but gravitated towards reloading a while back. Was mainly into single and double action revolvers and lever guns but went in several directions when I found something that interested me. Now I consider myself a reloader that dabbles in guns. Current obsession is the .327 Federal Magnum which has led me to buy 4 revolvers of said caliber in the last 5 months.
(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b492/Frulk/IMG_2274_zpsrm21pa97.jpg)
I'd sure like a first-series SP-101 in .327 Federal Magnum. I've got a snubbie .357 that's really nice.
I don't care for the latest .357s and .327s. Different top strap and big sights. I prefer the streamlined earlier ones.
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I do not collect guns.
I protect the gun(s) I may or may not have so that one day it will protect my family and my property.
'Geezer
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I'd sure like a first-series SP-101 in .327 Federal Magnum. I've got a snubbie .357 that's really nice.
I don't care for the latest .357s and .327s. Different top strap and big sights. I prefer the streamlined earlier ones.
Rocker, with the recently released version of the SP101 .327 Ruger went away from the concealable carry 3.02 inch barrel to what I consider a "trail gun" platform. 4 inch barrel and fiber optic sights in a smaller caliber ideal for varmints or potable meat you might encounter in the countryside . The older version in .327 mag pictured was commanding a premium and getting very hard to find for under $900.00. Came across this one used a few months back but in near mint condition in my local non-franchise sporting goods store for $525 (w/o tax) with a very nice leather holster. Right next to it was the new one for $600 and some change. I echo what almost all fans of the .327 Fed Mag want. A Marlin Cowboy or plain blued 1894 lever barreled for the .327. My personal second choice would be a blued Ruger 77 bolt in full walnut Mannlicher stock. :food:
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Isn't that a 1927 reciever? I thought the M1 had the charging handle on top of the receiver with a notch in it to sight through.
I had the opportunity to fire a couplet of them for my last job. It is amazing how accurate they are throwing that .45 slug out to 400yds.
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They all had the charging handle on top. During WW2 it was moved to the side and the milling for the drum magazine was removed to cut production cost and it was named an M1. Few more things were done to cut cost and it became the M1A1
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Nice collections, Folks. My dad left me his war trophy J P Sauer and Sohns 1913. Nice pocket pistol. I like the military types mostly but have others as well. My newest is the S&W M&P 15. I just realized I have 4 times as many guns as bikes. I might unload a few.
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Rocker, with the recently released version of the SP101 .327 Ruger went away from the concealable carry 3.02 inch barrel to what I consider a "trail gun" platform. 4 inch barrel and fiber optic sights in a smaller caliber ideal for varmints or potable meat you might encounter in the countryside . The older version in .327 mag pictured was commanding a premium and getting very hard to find for under $900.00. Came across this one used a few months back but in near mint condition in my local non-franchise sporting goods store for $525 (w/o tax) with a very nice leather holster. Right next to it was the new one for $600 and some change. I echo what almost all fans of the .327 Fed Mag want. A Marlin Cowboy or plain blued 1894 lever barreled for the .327. My personal second choice would be a blued Ruger 77 bolt in full walnut Mannlicher stock. :food:
Yeah. .22, .327, and .357 now available in the trail gun format. Not really my thing. 1st seris .22 and .327 will remain on my wish list.
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the Taurus 605 is a my current carry gun. I always did prefer a wheel gun..
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What? A Guzzi guy who likes a wheel gun? What is the world coming to? :laugh:
Hey. Wheel guns are real guns.
Or as Grant likes to say: "The West Wasn't Won With a Jammed Up Gun."
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What? A Guzzi guy who likes a wheel gun? What is the world coming to? :laugh:
Hey. Wheel guns are real guns.
Or as Grant likes to say: "The West Wasn't Won With a Jammed Up Gun."
True.. I have a S&W 9mm, but it just doesn't have any character. :smiley:
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I just collected another from my uncle Ray. nothing special at all but I really like it.
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It does not say what size chamber but a 3" seems to fit and ejects fine so I can use 3" RIGHT?
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It does not say what size chamber but a 3" seems to fit and ejects fine so I can use 3" RIGHT?
It likely started life as a 2 1/2 incher and if it takes a 3 inch with no pressure or distortion upon extraction - it's likely een hogged-out to 3 inch.
If the action's tight and solid, 3 inch presents no problems for these.
Todd.
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No body made a 3" shotgun shell in 1913 your gun is most likely 2 1/2" chamber. You could safely fire 2 3/4 but your pushing your luck going to 3". I don't think that old gun could handle the pressure from a modern 3" load.
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Got up this morning to 9 above zero and close to about 15-20 mph gusts. That put the wind chill around -9. Inside of my garage was 14 degrees as we keep one of the overhead doors open about 8 inches to let the cats in/out. Since riding is out of the question I decided to put the time to use and reloaded a couple hundred rounds for the .327 mentioned in the other part of this thread. Great winter hobby to engage in if you live in a colder climate.
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No body made a 3" shotgun shell in 1913 your gun is most likely 2 1/2" chamber. You could safely fire 2 3/4 but your pushing your luck going to 3". I don't think that old gun could handle the pressure from a modern 3" load.
patent in 1913, I don't think that's when it was made.. I'll start with shorter rounds.
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Got up this morning to 9 above zero and close to about 15-20 mph gusts. That put the wind chill around -9. Inside of my garage was 14 degrees as we keep one of the overhead doors open about 8 inches to let the cats in/out. Since riding is out of the question I decided to put the time to use and reloaded a couple hundred rounds for the .327 mentioned in the other part of this thread. Great winter hobby to engage in if you live in a colder climate.
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Nice.. :thumb: Except for that +9 and 15-20 mph gusts. :smiley:
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I like the term amassing better too!!!
The wife bought her a new Beretta PX4 Storm yesterday to compete with my 92fs.
Tim
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The wife bought her a new Beretta PX4 Storm yesterday to compete with my 92fs.
Tim
Interesting and unique design that rotating bolt on the full size and compact PX4 Storm (don't see it much in a hand gun). With the sub-compact version they went with a more traditional tip up barrel design. I'm a huge fan of the external/manual decock such as is on the PX4.
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You could measure the chamber length, the key is not that a 3" shell fits before firing but that it fits after firing.
If the crimp can't open all the way then the pressure tends to spike a bit. :shocked:
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You could measure the chamber length, the key is not that a 3" shell fits before firing but that it fits after firing.
If the crimp can't open all the way then the pressure tends to spike a bit. :shocked:
the chamber looks smooth all the way out, I'll get my boroscope camera in there soon . tried to feel for an edge with a plastic tool but didn't feel any ridge.
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Winter is for casting bullets and loading them up for the first long range buffalo gong shoot next spring with the .45-110 Sharps. Tomorrows forecast is for 30 mph winds and 8 to 10" of snow.
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I just collected another from my uncle Ray. nothing special at all but I really like it.
Interesting, I noticed the markings on the barrel "410 bore or 12 mm". Not really into shotguns but had to check into it. Although it's actually a 10.4 mm bore it was referred in Europe as 12mm. Also along the way it was called a 36 gauge while it would really be about a 67 or 68 gauge.
http://chuckhawks.com/410bore.htm
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The Sharps looks like fun! Had the opportunity to shoot a few 45-90s in both black powder and smokeless rounds through a replica Sharps. 500gr. bullets. That is damn near a cannon. No problem seeing where your shots hit. :thumb:
GliderJohn
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This is a Moto Guzzi site. Are there not enough gun sites? The rule is no politics.
Political BS removed -R59
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This is a Moto Guzzi site. Are there not enough gun sites? The rule is no politics. I
Well it still isn't Motoguzzi but is Italian so getting closer :cheesy:. My Uberti El Patron .45. The Sharps replica I shot was also an Uberti.
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GliderJohn
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I have a meager collection of various stuff.
Most of my stuff is for hunting.
Browning A Bolt Hunter with BOSS in .30-06 w/ Nikon scope
Marlin 336CS in .35 (love the Marlin levers) w/ Bushnell scope
Browning BPS 12 gauge with 24" Game barrel and 31" bird barrel
WASR variant AK which actually shoots pretty well and is really tight out to 100 yards and is a ball to shoot.
1944 Mosin Nagant Carbine with bayonet. Great shooting war era bolt. Fun shooter. My club has Mosin competitions once a year and while not as accurate as the full length Mosin, it's pretty good.
CVA Muzzleloader w/ Simmons 8 point scope
Sig Sauer 1911 Target Nitron, sweet shooter.
Colt Govt, MKIV .380, which is my carry pistol (if I carry, which is practically never)
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This is a Moto Guzzi site. Are there not enough gun sites? The rule is no politics. I
you just made it political..
If you don't have interest in guns please skip this campfire and find one about Guzzi's..
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Hadn't even thought about the "Italian Connection" till G-J's post. One'll excuse the American interpretation of a modern Italian classic. Would that my Benelli or Zanardinies were here to photograph as well.
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Todd.
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you just made it political..
If you don't have interest in guns please skip this campfire and find one about Guzzi's..
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This is a Moto Guzzi site. Are there not enough gun sites? The rule is no politics.
15 posts, but you've been here a year and a half.
In that time you should have figured out that gun threads are acceptable NGC here on Wildguzzi.
Please leave the politics out, and just skip the threads that aren't your thing.
Thanks,
R59
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Uhh. yeah. They are just machines. Lots of gerarheads here. They like machines.. Me, too.
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Yep , just machines .
Dusty
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Winter is for casting bullets and loading them up for the first long range buffalo gong shoot next spring with the .45-110 Sharps. Tomorrows forecast is for 30 mph winds and 8 to 10" of snow.
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I've been toying with the idea of getting into casting but I have too many other hobbies that it would require me to cut back on to make time for it. I'm still able to get hard cast lead bullets (which I shoot quite a bit vs. jacketed) at very reasonable prices. Currently have a source in Dillon, Montana casting some very nice .357 mag 158 gr SWC's. On my travels through the Montana and Wyoming backcountry I've developed a little network of local sporting goods stores that I hit when coming through. In that fashion I've been able to acquire hard to get stuff like Unique, Accurate 5/7/9, 2400, that is almost never on Sportsman/Cabela's shelves and I have enough Trail Boss now to last me the rest of my life. For brass I go directly to Starline's website which ships for free and is about $6-8 less per hundred than the franchise sporting goods stores When they have the popular pistol calibers...(which is almost never these days around here).
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Thanks for that..
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Nice Christmas gift! I've bought a few airguns recently to goof around in the backyard with. The broomhandle Mauser is a hoot in full auto but empties the mag in about 2 seconds. Hopefully the neighbors remain calm, I turn my stereo up real loud first! :thewife:
I love those Broom Handles :thumb: A friend bought one from the widow of his old mate recently, no one even knew he had it until they had a tidy up.
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^^^ "Broomhandles" and Lugers... There's a collecting virus I don't wanna get. Too dear. I have one 1918 matching numbered Luger and that's one too many. It keeps crying out for series mates but more particularly, an Artillery Luger.
Back in the Eye-Talian realm, I had forgotten about these Spaghetti Western staples from Italy:
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Two Remingtons (may favored) and a Colt in bits slowly becoming a pistol.
They really speak to me these days. If my bevy of 1911s feeds my Ludditious carburetor side, than these cap &ballers tickle my distributor bone! :boozing: Got a Hawken coming together in the shed too... "... couldn't go no better."
Todd.
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My next piece will probably be one of these. I have a thing for the Schofield's. To my eye, they're just gorgeous.
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We have a nice broomhandle Mauser, made in 1896, carried in the Boer War, then again in WWI. But, did not see much action in either. Father-in-law inherited it from a friend's family and now wife has it.
We shoot it on a regular basis. Figured out the right loads for it so it cycles reliably. Really nice little package and as accurate as any carbine with the stock attached.
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We have a nice broomhandle Mauser, made in 1896, carried in the Boer War, then again in WWI. But, did not see much action in either. Father-in-law inherited it from a friend's family and now wife has it.
We shoot it on a regular basis. Figured out the right loads for it so it cycles reliably. Really nice little package and as accurate as any carbine with the stock attached.
Very nice Charlie, Cycles reliably ? Would you share your loads so I could pass it on to my friend, it would save him some grief I think. I have no hand guns myself as to own one here in Australia you must be a member of a registered pistol club, hold a current gun owners licence, attend x number of club functions per year etc etc. All to painful for me at the moment. In my time off work I'm ether fixing or riding bikes :laugh:
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Going back 50 years .... a college buddy of mine purchased a broomhandle Mauser from a friend for $40.00. Keep in mind it didn't come with the removable 'rifle' stock. My recollections about the gun were:
- you used the nose of a bullet to open the magazine
- it had a very precise mechanism to raise and lower the sight for changes in elevation
- it was one brutally ugly firearm .... all business
- it was great fun to fire
Bob
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Quote from crafty:
Well it still isn't Motoguzzi but is Italian so getting closer :cheesy:. My Uberti El Patron .45. The Sharps replica I shot was also an Uberti.
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GliderJohn
Uberti makes quality pieces. I too have a couple of colt clones including a 5.5" patron. Their Winchesters are high quality and not inexpensive.
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Quote from davedude:
Uberti makes quality pieces. I too have a couple of colt clones including a 5.5" patron. Their Winchesters are high quality and not inexpensive.
I am very impressed with my El Patron. Cost less than a Ruger Vaquero, has much better fit and finish than my Blackhawk, and a factory custom tuned action with Wolfe Springs. Shoots great and to POA @ 50'. The .45 is just a fun cartridge and easy to reload along with being a piece of history.
GliderJohn
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Going back 50 years .... a college buddy of mine purchased a broomhandle Mauser from a friend for $40.00. Keep in mind it didn't come with the removable 'rifle' stock. My recollections about the gun were:
- you used the nose of a bullet to open the magazine
- it had a very precise mechanism to raise and lower the sight for changes in elevation
- it was one brutally ugly firearm .... all business
- it was great fun to fire
Bob
Yep. But, you only need to open the mag if you get a lot of dirt/grime in there.
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Very nice Charlie, Cycles reliably ? Would you share your loads so I could pass it on to my friend, it would save him some grief I think. I have no hand guns myself as to own one here in Australia you must be a member of a registered pistol club, hold a current gun owners licence, attend x number of club functions per year etc etc. All to painful for me at the moment. In my time off work I'm ether fixing or riding bikes :laugh:
I've been using 6.3gn AA#5 with the Sierra 85gn bullet (that is the max load) but it cycles well.
Do not use the Tokarev ammo as it is quite a bit hotter.
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I've been using 6.3gn AA#5 with the Sierra 85gn bullet (that is the max load) but it cycles well.
Do not use the Tokarev ammo as it is quite a bit hotter.
Thanks Charlie, I'll pass it on Cheers :boozing:
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This long range set up is my Italian connection. Pedersoli reproduction of a Remington Rolling Block in 45-70. Casting is the only way to get the specialized long heavy bullets that are soft enough to work with black powder loads. One can shoot smokeless in these reproductions but its not allowed in quite a few of the long range matches and in the longer high case capacity rounds like 45/90 and 45/110 you have to be very careful if you do so.
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I do love the black powder guns. My next one will be a long range muzzle loader.
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Any person much interested in firearms should at least fool with black powder a bit. Fairly inexpensive to get into.
I compare it to learning to fly with gliders. It just does a good job of teaching the basics plus fun to shoot.
On the flip side of the coin I cannot imagine going to war as like in the civil war using the black powder weapons. Pull trigger, boom, Oh wait! Oh wait! I need a half a minute on a good day to reload this thing while having to stand up to do it. Even the revolvers were only good for about 20 shots or so before they became to gummed up to function.
GuzziJohn
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And if you get into black powder you need a good pistol. This is a .69 cal that my Father made when he was 17 years old. It still shots like a dream and is dead on at 50 yards.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/farmerdan/Guns/6916_zps453cfee9.jpg)
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Dead on meaning "bushel basket" @ 50 yards.. :smiley:
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Uberti makes quality pieces. I too have a couple of colt clones including a 5.5" patron. Their Winchesters are high quality and not inexpensive.
I have an el Patron CMS (lowered hammer, 3.5" barrel. .357 Mag). The trigger is a dream and it is beautiful to look at. Excellent in the field or at a bar-b-que!
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