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Title: income inequity!
Post by: drlapo on January 01, 2016, 09:03:00 AM
a local court CLERK was fired for forging a signature on a traffic ticket for a friend
she lost her $120,600 a year job
SHE WAS A CLERK!
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: nunzio on January 01, 2016, 09:11:57 AM
Where do you live?
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: drlapo on January 01, 2016, 09:57:11 AM
Eastern Connecticut
The"poor" end of the state
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: travelingbyguzzi on January 01, 2016, 10:12:57 AM
In addition to the paycheck, I'll bet she also lost a very good benefits package. Some people you just can't help.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: LowRyter on January 01, 2016, 10:35:01 AM
cite?
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Caffeineo on January 01, 2016, 11:02:12 AM
Almost as bad as the Newport Beach, CA lifeguards.........$150K+
Good for those lucky enough to get high paying govt. jobs. But if your fired.....where do you go?
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: oldbike54 on January 01, 2016, 11:23:53 AM
a local court CLERK was fired for forging a signature on a traffic ticket for a friend
she lost her $120,600 a year job
SHE WAS A CLERK!

 A bit of research shows something is amiss here , Connecticut court clerk salaries are in the $40K range .

 
 
Almost as bad as the Newport Beach, CA lifeguards.........$150K+
Good for those lucky enough to get high paying govt. jobs. But if your fired.....where do you go?

 Orange County , correct ? Isn't that like the most expensive place to live on California ?


  Dusty
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Triple Jim on January 01, 2016, 12:05:43 PM
A bit of research shows something is amiss here , Connecticut court clerk salaries are in the $40K range .

I'm not sure this explains it all, but according to the Hartford Courant, her title was "Assistant Chief Clerk".
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 01, 2016, 12:07:07 PM

 
 
 Orange County , correct ? Isn't that like the most expensive place to live on California ?


  Dusty
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Naw, that would be San Diego, Newport Beach-Laguna area,  or the SF Bay area, Dusty.

Hey if you're on the Calif. State payroll it's all good.  Had a neighbor retired CHP officer getting $80K/year when I left the state 6.5 years ago.   :boozing:

The Calif. tax payers are a generous lot.  :laugh:
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on January 01, 2016, 12:15:59 PM
We also get health insurance.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: sib on January 01, 2016, 12:38:47 PM
....But if your fired.....where do you go?
You go back to school, learn the difference between "your" and "you're", and then maybe you can get a job.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: vstevens on January 01, 2016, 12:42:48 PM

 
 Orange County , correct ? Isn't that like the most expensive place to live on California ?


  Dusty




Naw, that would be San Diego, Newport Beach-Laguna area,  or the SF Bay area, Dusty.

Hey if you're on the Calif. State payroll it's all good.  Had a neighbor retired CHP officer getting $80K/year when I left the state 6.5 years ago.   :boozing:

The Calif. tax payers are a generous lot.  :laugh:
San Diego has expensive property... rents average about 1500 or so for a 2 bedroom place.  its cheaper in some neighborhoods, maybr 1000/month give or take for a tiny one bedroom.

Orange county is just as expensive ... farther East its less so, but the closer to the coast (where all the people are) it is just as expensive as SD.  San Francisco city... wow, its another universe of expensive right behind Manhatten.

try doing rent like that on minimum wage.  (just went up to 10/hr) but is higher in some cities.  Mayors and governors seem to be the most pragmatic concerning wages.  Too high you lose business.  Too low you lose business.  Just depends on the city and how pricey it is.

not sure Californians are so generous... in an altruistic sense... but certainly we are pragmatically generous.  (Course, I can only speak for myself...)
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: oldbike54 on January 01, 2016, 12:47:32 PM
San Diego has expensive property... rents average about 1500 or so for a 2 bedroom place.  its cheaper in some neighborhoods, maybr 1000/month give or take for a tiny one bedroom.

Orange county is just as expensive ... farther East its less so, but the closer to the coast (where all the people are) it is just as expensive as SD.  San Francisco city... wow, its another universe of expensive right behind Manhatten.

try doing rent like that on minimum wage.  (just went up to 10/hr) but is higher in some cities.  Mayors and governors seem to be the most pragmatic concerning wages.  Too high you lose business.  Too low you lose business.  Just depends on the city and how pricey it is.

not sure Californians are so generous... in an altruistic sense... but certainly we are pragmatically generous.  (Course, I can only speak for myself...)

 Well , that is why we must be very careful discussing salaries for employees in different regions. Maybe we should let this one rest fellas .

  Dusty
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: LaMojo on January 01, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
SOMEBODY wanted HER job.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Tom on January 01, 2016, 01:12:19 PM
Fortunately, low pay out here prevents more from moving here.  On the other end, we have a lot of low-income tourists that come out here with the dream of living in Hawaii and working.  They don't check out the cost of living and end up as panhandlers.  Eventually they go back to where they're from.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: canuguzzi on January 01, 2016, 01:19:45 PM
There are often excesses in salaries everywhere. The cost of living though where it isn't limited to small pockets, SF Bay Area. Rents are astounding. Buying even more so unless you are already in or bought during slumps. We were amazes what rents are going for. Speaking to a neighbor we discovered a modest starter around the corner was going to 4k a month with an 8k deposit. I said, Honey, let's rent out the house and live in the garage!

On the good side, other than old CB500s, CL360s and bikes like that selling for 4 grand, the price if new Motos is reasonable and good deals can be had.

If you want to sell a 70s era bike, SF is the place. Quirky technos buy them up and will pay high prices for them.

Have an old Honda 350 or 360 for sale? Put some clubman style bars on it, chop off the rear fender and ask a bunch for it. If you don't clean it up, almost seems like the price goes up.

On the wages though, without being specific, don't forget that many of the jobs are the kind lots if people don't want to do or be willing to do for 20 years or more. In the economies of the last 3 or so decades, people seem to job hop for better pay and benefits while others slog it out at the same job few others apply to do. More often than not, those retirements and benefits are worked for.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 01, 2016, 03:31:26 PM
Money wise, it's not so much what you're paid as how that works out in your overall cost(standard) of living there.   :smiley:
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: flip on January 01, 2016, 08:30:10 PM
Money wise, it's not so much what you're paid as how that works out in your overall cost(standard) of living there.   :smiley:

Or, how many Moto Guzzis you can afford to own at one time.  :grin:
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Tom on January 01, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
Uh.......25.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 01, 2016, 10:13:42 PM
Or, how many Moto Guzzis you can afford to own at one time.  :grin:


Or if you even have a garage to put them(or it) in.  :evil:
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Caffeineo on January 02, 2016, 10:13:47 AM
You go back to school, learn the difference between "your" and "you're", and then maybe you can get a job.

You're correct. Thanks for your contribution.  :evil:

What level of education is required for a lifeguard? HS diploma? Maybe a Red Cross certificate. Does the job requirements really justify that salary? Also there are many people who work at fast food places in Newport Beach who most likely are not making that much. They just live inland as the rents decrease in proportion to the distance from the beach.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: vstevens on January 02, 2016, 10:53:45 AM
You're correct. Thanks for your contribution.  :evil:

What level of education is required for a lifeguard? HS diploma? Maybe a Red Cross certificate. Does the job requirements really justify that salary? Also there are many people who work at fast food places in Newport Beach who most likely are not making that much. They just live inland as the rents decrease in proportion to the distance from the beach.

There are lifeguards and then there are Lifeguards.  California coastline is long and people from all over the world visit and play in the water... which can be treacherous at times.  Qualifications for lifeguard are very extensive... not your average swimming pool teenaged lifeguard.  Many of them are also have law enforcement authority.  I don''t know specifics, but I do know that its a job that rates up there with policeman and fireman and paramedic... life saving, dealing with the unruly, lost children, rip tides, high tides, low tides, tidal pools, sharks, stinging jellys, rock fish, serious sun burns, drownings, crowd management, enforcement of state, county and local ordinances, alcohol, etc.... Yeah, the job justifies the salary... and then some.
 :thumb:

Down in San Diego, I've met folks that work in the city but commute from Mexico (mostly Tijuana).  Rents in Tijuana will be half of what they are in San Diego... a 1500/month rent in San Diego translates to about 700 or 800 for a similar setup in Tijuana.  And yes, many folks commute from communities East of the La Jollas and Del Mars of the coast... East of the coast is relatively cheaper... But the 1500/month rent for a 2 bedroom place IS in the cheaper areas..  On the coast, your talking several thousand a month for a tiny studio apartment.  I do believe that a "rising tide lifts all boats" ... and that a higher minimum wage translates into more money flowing through the economy making us all richer and happier... wage earners spend money in the community... just my opinion for what its worth.

BUT, the weather is fantastic most of the time, the people are mostly friendly and the motocycle roads are among the best anywhere. 
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: rocker59 on January 02, 2016, 10:57:20 AM
Money wise, it's not so much what you're paid as how that works out in your overall cost(standard) of living there.   :smiley:

Yep.  It's not what you have coming in.  It's what you have going out.

Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: vstevens on January 02, 2016, 11:08:39 AM
Yep.  It's not what you have coming in.  It's what you have going out.

Couldn't agree more!  Especially when thinking in the direction of retirement...  :bike-037:
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Tom on January 02, 2016, 12:21:19 PM
Definitely, 'cuz Social Security is part of the solution and not the solution.  Retirement is stopping work in one area to work in another. 
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Caffeineo on January 04, 2016, 11:20:57 AM
There are lifeguards and then there are Lifeguards.  California coastline is long and people from all over the world visit and play in the water... which can be treacherous at times.  Qualifications for lifeguard are very extensive... not your average swimming pool teenaged lifeguard.  Many of them are also have law enforcement authority.  I don''t know specifics, but I do know that its a job that rates up there with policeman and fireman and paramedic... life saving, dealing with the unruly, lost children, rip tides, high tides, low tides, tidal pools, sharks, stinging jellys, rock fish, serious sun burns, drownings, crowd management, enforcement of state, county and local ordinances, alcohol, etc.... Yeah, the job justifies the salary... and then some.
 :thumb:

Down in San Diego, I've met folks that work in the city but commute from Mexico (mostly Tijuana).  Rents in Tijuana will be half of what they are in San Diego... a 1500/month rent in San Diego translates to about 700 or 800 for a similar setup in Tijuana.  And yes, many folks commute from communities East of the La Jollas and Del Mars of the coast... East of the coast is relatively cheaper... But the 1500/month rent for a 2 bedroom place IS in the cheaper areas..  On the coast, your talking several thousand a month for a tiny studio apartment.  I do believe that a "rising tide lifts all boats" ... and that a higher minimum wage translates into more money flowing through the economy making us all richer and happier... wage earners spend money in the community... just my opinion for what its worth.

BUT, the weather is fantastic most of the time, the people are mostly friendly and the motocycle roads are among the best anywhere.

I once rented a room in Port Hueneme in a 3 bedroom house with 2 Malibu life guards. Let's just say they took advantage of their positions to meet young girls (nothing wrong with that) and would live the lifestyle of the movie image of your typical SoCal "surfer dude". They were a lot of fun to hang out with. They told me that about  100 people would be competing for just a few openings and most of the elimination process was based on physical fitness......runnin g and then swimming out past the breakers and back.  Very  little academic experience needed. But, professional athletes make millions.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: canuguzzi on January 04, 2016, 03:14:08 PM
When it comes to lifeguards, sometimes it helps to realize just what they are being asked to do.

Some serious poundage plows into the surf, the wake generated enough to topple children on rafts and as they fail to heed the warning for rip tides and strong currents, go out far enough they can't do the tip toe dance to reach bottom.

The lifeguard, in good physical condition and sporting the George Hamilton tan has to swim out and rescue what can look like a floundering baby beluga who will grab hold of and without any intent, try to pull the lifeguard under water and use them as a rubber dinghy so they can remain afloat and gasp for air. That the lifeguard must also breathe is irrelevant at that time and place because it becomes all for one and one for one.

The lifeguard, having managed to hold their breath for the 200 yards back to land must then haul said poundage up onto the beach where maybe it is necessary for them to do what they accused others of doing in school, lip smack the rolly polly hoping the one way resuscitation tube really is a one way affair. That doesn't help though when the cough of the great beast chucks up enough salt water and their last meal of salsa, coke and bananas erupts like Pompei's revenge.

Soaking wet, slathered with the sun screen of the "bather" who used what can only be described as hydraulic fluid, the remains of upchuck and without half their hair remaining...

just how is that lifeguard expected to ride home on their shiny V7 they bought last week with any dignity? They'd be lucky if the V7 didn't sell itself to the first scooter rider that passed by first.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: ponti_33609 on January 05, 2016, 02:37:40 PM
San Diego has expensive property... rents average about 1500 or so for a 2 bedroom place.  its cheaper in some neighborhoods, maybr 1000/month give or take for a tiny one bedroom.

This can't be correct?  I get $1,500 each for (2) 1,000 square foot apartments in downtown Tampa and $2,400 for a 2,200 square foot loft.  Does Sand Diego have a bad side of town?
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: bigbikerrick on January 05, 2016, 02:54:12 PM
When it comes to lifeguards, sometimes it helps to realize just what they are being asked to do.

Some serious poundage plows into the surf, the wake generated enough to topple children on rafts and as they fail to heed the warning for rip tides and strong currents, go out far enough they can't do the tip toe dance to reach bottom.

The lifeguard, in good physical condition and sporting the George Hamilton tan has to swim out and rescue what can look like a floundering baby beluga who will grab hold of and without any intent, try to pull the lifeguard under water and use them as a rubber dinghy so they can remain afloat and gasp for air. That the lifeguard must also breathe is irrelevant at that time and place because it becomes all for one and one for one.

The lifeguard, having managed to hold their breath for the 200 yards back to land must then haul said poundage up onto the beach where maybe it is necessary for them to do what they accused others of doing in school, lip smack the rolly polly hoping the one way resuscitation tube really is a one way affair. That doesn't help though when the cough of the great beast chucks up enough salt water and their last meal of salsa, coke and bananas erupts like Pompei's revenge.

Soaking wet, slathered with the sun screen of the "bather" who used what can only be described as hydraulic fluid, the remains of upchuck and without half their hair remaining...

just how is that lifeguard expected to ride home on their shiny V7 they bought last week with any dignity? They'd be lucky if the V7 didn't sell itself to the first scooter rider that passed by first.

This is absolutely hilarious! LMFAO !
Rick.
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: krglorioso on January 05, 2016, 11:57:11 PM
There are clerks and there are clerks.  I "retired" as a medical unit clerk in a County psychiatric emergency clinic North of San Francisco and my wage after 20 years was about $21/hour, which I thought was fair, and it included benefits. 

Within our County administration, there is The County Clerk, which is a managerial position of considerable responsibility. I'm sure that person earns $100K/year.  The term clerk may apply properly to myriad low level employees of hardware stores, grocery chains and medical clinics.  It also is used to denote the chief administrative clerk of a county.  There is a great difference in the responsibility levels of the types of clerks.  One size does not fit all.

Ralph
Title: Re: income inequity!
Post by: Scud on January 06, 2016, 01:27:55 AM

Down in San Diego... ...the motorcycle roads are among the best anywhere.

This is the most important point in this thread.  :bike-037: