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Title: When road test where road test!
Post by: steven c on January 12, 2016, 08:53:36 AM
1975 Cycle "Eight For The Open Road".
Pretty honest reviews.
https://yeoldecycleshoppe.wordpress.com/category/guzzi/
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 12, 2016, 09:42:10 AM
the good old days when Moto Guzzi was owned by Moto Guzzi... ?
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: cookiemech on January 12, 2016, 10:15:17 AM
Good find; I just read through it.

Spoiler alert:  They liked the R90/6 a lot, and the Harley pretty much not at all . . .

Sure was a different world back then in terms of the limitations of different motorcycles.
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Triple Jim on January 12, 2016, 10:34:45 AM
Interesting reading.  Thanks Steven.
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: john hooper on January 12, 2016, 02:55:01 PM
 Cycle magazine back in the late 70 s early 80 s was the best read to be had i almost cried when it closed, no motomag since  has come close, at the time i had subscritions  for mags from every corner of the english speaking world and as an english man it hurts that the americans did it better.

john
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: oldbike54 on January 12, 2016, 03:54:57 PM
Cycle magazine back in the late 70 s early 80 s was the best read to be had i almost cried when it closed, no motomag since  has come close, at the time i had subscritions  for mags from every corner of the english speaking world and as an english man it hurts that the americans did it better.

john

 Even when they wrote stuff like " the new Sportster has no discernible vibration" :huh: They did have Kevin Cameron , which made up for a multitude of sins .

  Dusty
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: oldbike54 on January 12, 2016, 04:18:18 PM
Back then, they were riders writing, not writers who happen to ride a little.

 So Ienatasch , Canet , Hoyer , et al don't ride ? What about the semi retired Peter Egan ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: oldbike54 on January 12, 2016, 04:34:07 PM
Sure they do, a dying breed in the sea of mass published reviews and tests that read more like PR and seem to excel at copy and paste.

Didn't mean or say "all".

 The enthusiasts magazines have always been full of PR . Actually Cycle World broke the practice of simply publishing what the manufacturers claimed . Go back and read copies of the Green Un , or the Blue Un , both highly respected English MC mags and tell me there wasn't a LOT of BS being written .

  Dusty
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: canuguzzi on January 12, 2016, 04:40:19 PM
Fixed it.
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 12, 2016, 05:36:09 PM
Shoot, can't get the print big enough to read(425%).  :cry:
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Moto on January 12, 2016, 09:46:35 PM
Even when they wrote stuff like " the new Sportster has no discernible vibration" :huh: They did have Kevin Cameron , which made up for a multitude of sins .

  Dusty

And the incomparable Gordon Jennings.
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: oldbike54 on January 12, 2016, 10:11:43 PM
And the incomparable Gordon Jennings.

 Schilling and Nielsen weren't slouches either .

  Dusty
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Moto on January 12, 2016, 11:45:41 PM
Schilling and Nielsen weren't slouches either .

  Dusty

No, sir, they weren't!
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: SlowPokeYOCS on April 06, 2017, 12:25:45 PM
1975 Cycle "Eight For The Open Road".
Pretty honest reviews.
https://yeoldecycleshoppe.wordpress.com/category/guzzi/
Here's a link update. The site has moved and old links won't work after June 2017.
https://yeoldecycleshoppe.squarespace.com/roadtestlibrary?category=Moto+Guzzi
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: chuck peterson on April 06, 2017, 04:27:53 PM
Thanks Steven  :thumb:
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 06, 2017, 04:57:22 PM
Thanks for that, and welcome to WG.. :thumb:
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: radguzzi on April 06, 2017, 05:04:48 PM

I Still have three of those magazines as I owned SPs and the CX...

Best,
Rob



Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: RANDM on April 06, 2017, 05:14:12 PM
The enthusiasts magazines have always been full of PR . Actually Cycle World broke the practice of simply publishing what the manufacturers claimed . Go back and read copies of the Green Un , or the Blue Un , both highly respected English MC mags and tell me there wasn't a LOT of BS being written .

  Dusty

Dead right there sport - IIRC they even admitted it years later.
Wonder if they'll ever admit to sending all their Monday and
Friday bikes to Oz!

Maurie.
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: oldbike54 on April 06, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
Dead right there sport - IIRC they even admitted it years later.
Wonder if they'll ever admit to sending all their Monday and
Friday bikes to Oz!

Maurie.

 Damn , saw this thread and thought it was a new topic , had forgotten all about it  :shocked: But yeah , there was a lot of pure bull poopie written in MC mags for years , probably still is  :laugh: One observation , Guzzi riders always complain that testers don't like MG's , which is odd , because most Guzzi tests I have read seem to be positive .

 Dusty
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: twowings on April 06, 2017, 06:32:59 PM
IIRC, Cycle had a great hilarious article back in the '60's or '70s about how to interpret road test terms...

The one I remember best is:

"The controls fall readily to hand" = They fell off in our hands
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Hugh Straub on April 06, 2017, 07:43:12 PM
When it comes to road tests, here is the Gold Standard against which all others are judged

http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html

Kind regards

Hugh

Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Murray on April 07, 2017, 08:21:58 AM
the good old days when Moto Guzzi was owned by Moto Guzzi... ?

De Tasmo was doing his level best to run it into the ground.
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: RANDM on April 07, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
IIRC, Cycle had a great hilarious article back in the '60's or '70s about how to interpret road test terms...

The one I remember best is:

"The controls fall readily to hand" = They fell off in our hands

I've seen the same article and in was hilarious. A mate has got oodles
of old mags and I saw it while working my way through some. I guess
we all knew they were wanking - just not how hard.

Maurie.
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: oldbike54 on April 07, 2017, 12:23:32 PM
 Sorry if we already mentioned this one .

 In about 1968 Cycle , or MClist , or one of the main stream mags did a road test of a BSA Lightening . Seem to remember the title said something like , "The HOT one from BSA" . In the article it stated that during acceleration testing "The rider had a very hard time hanging onto the bars and keeping the front end from clawing the air" , or some such nonsense . Yeah , memory says the bike ran a 14 second quarter mile and would accelerate from 0 to 60 in about 6 seconds . Isn't that about how fast my old Jackal is? :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: Dharma Bum on April 07, 2017, 02:44:31 PM
Yeah, Dusty, but you have to remember that article was written in the late 60's.  Perceptions of reality were twisted on a routine basis by the chemicals on hand!
Title: Re: When road test where road test!
Post by: oldbike54 on April 07, 2017, 03:26:38 PM
Yeah, Dusty, but you have to remember that article was written in the late 60's.  Perceptions of reality were twisted on a routine basis by the chemicals on hand!

  :laugh: Oh dude , I was like you know , like really twistin on the throttle , it was really gnarly , then I started seein colors man , everything went all like weird and stuff  :huh:

 Dusty