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Title: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: giusto on January 12, 2016, 01:55:24 PM
I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me . The title pretty much says it all...guess I'll crawl back in my cave.

Thought folks might like the photo


Having trouble with the attachment link :( not sure why...I've posted pics before

http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/fvdituri/media/iphone%20pics%201796_zps0hywsxdw.jpg.html

(http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/fvdituri/media/iphone%20pics%201796_zps0hywsxdw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: canuguzzi on January 12, 2016, 02:10:48 PM
Why torture yourself? Still have a motorcycle? Quite a few "men" don't because their wives say no. You're doing better than many. :grin:
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 12, 2016, 02:59:45 PM
fixed it for you,

(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag132/fvdituri/iphone%20pics%201796_zps0hywsxdw.jpg) (http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/fvdituri/media/iphone%20pics%201796_zps0hywsxdw.jpg.html)


when I was between wives..

 (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-kFvxc7z/0/L/044_1-L.jpg)
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: JoeW on January 12, 2016, 03:14:06 PM
fixed it for you,

(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag132/fvdituri/iphone%20pics%201796_zps0hywsxdw.jpg) (http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/fvdituri/media/iphone%20pics%201796_zps0hywsxdw.jpg.html)

I have something to say about this motor but first, a suggestion, send your wife on a cruise, just a week. That would give you plenty of time to set fire to the living room set and remodel it just the way you want. Remember, It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.

Now the hijack, is that an external oil pump on that motor? Maybe this bike was fitted with an oil cooler or even a dry sump? 
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: giusto on January 12, 2016, 03:17:49 PM
Thanks...I had right clicked copy on photo url rather than going to url and copy/pasting

Whew!  I like yoru pic :) I was hoping for a permanent installation on mine...she'd probably have plants growing out of it....hmmm...bargai n fodder.
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 12, 2016, 03:19:16 PM
I think it might be a race motor with that external pump but how is it driven?
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 12, 2016, 03:21:05 PM
Thanks...I had right clicked copy on photo url rather than going to url and copy/pasting

Whew!  I like yoru pic :) I was hoping for a permanent installation on mine...she'd probably have plants growing out of it....hmmm...bargai n fodder.
Land Lady was not too happy but the previous renter was a harley guy who left oil all over the parking lot.

(https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-zF4BRDp/0/XL/ROLL2DX-01-XL.jpg)
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: giusto on January 12, 2016, 03:25:23 PM
I have something to say about this motor but first, a suggestion, send your wife on a cruise, just a week. That would give you plenty of time to set fire to the living room set and remodel it just the way you want. Remember, It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.

Now the hijack, is that an external oil pump on that motor? Maybe this bike was fitted with an oil cooler or even a dry sump?

forgiveness my involve a cast iron frying pan
I believe you are asking about the motor hanging in the background ?  This was taken at Mandello 

Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: kirkemon on January 12, 2016, 03:29:36 PM
Nice!
It was a memorable experience to visit Guy Webster's collection up in Ojai - amazing!
http://robbreport.com/Automobiles/Motorcycling-For-The-Executive-Rider--A-Connoisseurs-Collection
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: giusto on January 12, 2016, 03:43:08 PM
Kirk,

 great article!

thanks
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 12, 2016, 03:51:05 PM
Now the hijack, is that an external oil pump on that motor? Maybe this bike was fitted with an oil cooler or even a dry sump?

I'm betting it's an early prototype V7 engine with dry sump and frame-mounted tank. The pump is likely driven by gear off of the crank, same as the production engine, it's just the pump is mounted to the timing cover. It looks like it could be a two-stage pump as well - the forward-most stage scavenges oil from the sump and returns it to the tank, one behind is the pressure stage. The lump of fittings to the left of the pump in the photo (rider's right side) probably contains the oil pressure relief valve.

If you think about what the biggest bike Guzzi was building at the time (Falcone) and how it was configured (dry sump, frame-mounted tank and oil pump on the timing cover), it all kind of makes sense.

Boy am I glad this wasn't what made it into production!  :grin:
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: JoeW on January 12, 2016, 03:55:43 PM
I'm betting it's an early prototype V7 engine with dry sump and frame-mounted tank. The pump is likely driven by gear off of the crank, same as the production engine, it's just the pump is mounted to the timing cover. If you think about what the biggest bike Guzzi was building at the time (Falcone) and how it was configured (dry sump, frame-mounted tank and oil pump on the timing cover), it all kind of makes sense.
Looking at it again, There is no oil pan. Dry sumps are better for racing too, no need for a windage tray!
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Matteo on January 12, 2016, 08:40:49 PM
Chill out and let her use the frying pan for sausage and peppers. :food:
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: giusto on January 12, 2016, 09:19:35 PM
We made 45 lbs of sausage with some friends a few weeks ago...mmmm fennel, white wine, pork butt, salt and pepper...and some with caciocavallo chunks...mmmm Madonna mia
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Sheepdog on January 12, 2016, 10:13:45 PM
When I arrived home today, my shop was in disarray. My wife had bought shelving and wall lockers and had retained a fellow to redo the lighting, insulate and drywall the ceiling, and paint. I'm feeling bad that we haven't redone the kitchen yet...
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: oldbike54 on January 12, 2016, 10:17:12 PM
When I arrived home today, my shop was in disarray. My wife had bought shelving and wall lockers and had retained a fellow to redo the lighting, insulate and drywall the ceiling, and paint. I'm feeling bad that we haven't redone the kitchen yet...

 UH OH  :grin:

  Dusty
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: jacksonracingcomau on January 12, 2016, 10:56:41 PM
I'm betting it's an early prototype V7 engine with dry sump and frame-mounted tank. The pump is likely driven by gear off of the crank, same as the production engine, it's just the pump is mounted to the timing cover. It looks like it could be a two-stage pump as well - the forward-most stage scavenges oil from the sump and returns it to the tank, one behind is the pressure stage. The lump of fittings to the left of the pump in the photo (rider's right side) probably contains the oil pressure relief valve.

If you think about what the biggest bike Guzzi was building at the time (Falcone) and how it was configured (dry sump, frame-mounted tank and oil pump on the timing cover), it all kind of makes sense.

Boy am I glad this wasn't what made it into production!  :grin:

Agree with dry sump pump, lack of dipstick adds to theory, esp as hole not even drilled but lug there ready for when they did
The days when development mattered
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 13, 2016, 06:45:39 AM
Nice!
It was a memorable experience to visit Guy Webster's collection up in Ojai - amazing!
http://robbreport.com/Automobiles/Motorcycling-For-The-Executive-Rider--A-Connoisseurs-Collection

BTDT. It's considerably different now, and has cars, too. Never have seen so many Mondials..  :smiley:
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Dean Rose on January 13, 2016, 06:57:23 AM
When I arrived home today, my shop was in disarray. My wife had bought shelving and wall lockers and had retained a fellow to redo the lighting, insulate and drywall the ceiling, and paint. I'm feeling bad that we haven't redone the kitchen yet...


No fret, the retained fellow is to start on an renovation of HER kitchen when he's thru with the garage.


Dean
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Sheepdog on January 13, 2016, 11:21:09 AM
Looks like I'll be delaying my second retirement, Dean.
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: krglorioso on January 14, 2016, 12:57:30 AM
When Karen and I sold our Northern California home last Fall, I had three collectible bikes and no space for them in our San Diego area home.  Karen said, "We can take the center leaf from our dining room table and the bikes will fit behind it.  So, there they sit; the restored 1965 BMW R-27, the 3000 mile 1974 Norton Commando 850 "Interstate" and the 1100 mile 1989 Honda GB-500. 

43 years ago, I got lucky, very lucky.  Thanks, Karen.

Ralph
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: azguzzirep on January 14, 2016, 03:49:10 AM
Nice!
It was a memorable experience to visit Guy Webster's collection up in Ojai - amazing!
http://robbreport.com/Automobiles/Motorcycling-For-The-Executive-Rider--A-Connoisseurs-Collection

At one of the San Diego rallies, there was a group ride out to Wbster's.

I didn't go.... D U M B move...

Tom
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Rough Edge racing on January 14, 2016, 05:34:17 AM
  My wife has no problems with bikes in the house. We used to have a much larger place with room for the bikes during the winter...Now we have a small house and I have a large heated shop for two and 4 wheel junk..
 About 15 years ago....All the Triumphs were in the living room, they all run and are registered.... and notice no drip pans needed... :grin:

                          (http://i.imgur.com/49w3beal.jpg)


                           (http://i.imgur.com/vhh7dEtl.jpg)
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: JeffOlson on January 14, 2016, 10:25:19 AM
^ That's how it ought to be!
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: PJPR01 on January 14, 2016, 12:50:54 PM
Wow...motorcycles on the Persian runner rug...that's a special setup right there!!
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Muzz on January 14, 2016, 01:26:18 PM
I built a bike in the bedroom......but that was before we got married! :thewife:
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: giusto on January 14, 2016, 03:54:53 PM
I am slowly being convinced that this may be worth the price of forgiveness.
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: HDGoose on January 15, 2016, 09:13:04 AM
Wife found us a house. 2100+ square feet 3/3 with bonus room/office. two car garage attached. Two car detached garage with vehicle lift. 1.4 acres. Now for the 'fun' house buying process.
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: Dean Rose on January 15, 2016, 10:08:13 AM
Wife found us a house. 2100+ square feet 3/3 with bonus room/office. two car garage attached. Two car detached garage with vehicle lift. 1.4 acres. Now for the 'fun' house buying process.

Good luck.

Dean
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: giusto on January 15, 2016, 02:10:21 PM
Wife found us a house. 2100+ square feet 3/3 with bonus room/office. two car garage attached. Two car detached garage with vehicle lift. 1.4 acres. Now for the 'fun' house buying process.


Sounds great! Garage with lift...oooooo

Best of luck !
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: sign216 on January 15, 2016, 09:05:06 PM
I built a bike in the bedroom......but that was before we got married! :thewife:


Exactly the same for me.  Still had gas in the tank, and one night it dumped it onto the floor. I'm lucky to be alive.
After the build was done I and my fraternity brothers drove it down two floors of stairs to the road.
Title: Re: I want to do this in my living room...wife won't let me
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 15, 2016, 09:33:22 PM
Wow...motorcycles on the Persian runner rug...that's a special setup right there!!

(https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Foto/i-ctWbTnC/0/XL/IMG_1403-XL.jpg)