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Title: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: canuguzzi on January 12, 2016, 10:28:14 PM
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/01/05/apparent-leader-of-dirt-bike-gang-no-longer-a-sheriffs-deputy-following-kpix-5-report/

Turns out leader was a Deputy Sheriff. Glad they got caught.

Getting another job might not be so easy for that guy. DMV should pull his license to ride a motorcycle.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Doppelgaenger on January 13, 2016, 04:02:52 AM
sweet sweet justice
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Trevor G on January 13, 2016, 04:31:29 AM
Why not?

It's pretty harmless fun and it's spectacular as well.

Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Perazzimx14 on January 13, 2016, 07:39:23 AM
DMV should pull his license to ride a motorcycle.

I'm sure that would effectively stop him from riding.

Most of the Sportbike crew and Harley riders in my area don't even know what a "M" endorsment even is.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Dean Rose on January 13, 2016, 08:17:07 AM
Why not?

It's pretty harmless fun and it's spectacular as well.

Until it's endangering the public, I saw a crouch rocket doing wheelies on I-581 coming out of Roanoke. What if he had lost control of the bike and caused an accident?

Dean
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: cruzziguzzi on January 13, 2016, 11:26:37 AM
Wait... what?!? Dirt bike gangs?....

Did someone re-loop the 70's? :boozing:

Another example of these weird crazes to turn "adventure" inwards upon urban sprawl - I get it but he is a cop.


Todd.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: not-fishing on January 13, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
Not-Surprised, remember SF's sheriff recently?

http://abc7news.com/society/domestic-violence-misdemeanor-removed-from-mirkarimis-record/672427/

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/30/us/san-francisco-sheriff-long-embattled-at-home-gains-a-national-profile.html?_r=0

San Francisco has always had special "rules", that's why I don't ride there.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: DaSwami on January 13, 2016, 12:28:44 PM
WHAT.AN.IDIOT.

Cali....the land of fruits and nuts.  Really sad to see what was once a great state go down the drain.  People have lost their damn minds there.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 13, 2016, 12:46:26 PM
WHAT.AN.IDIOT.

Cali....the land of fruits and nuts.  Really sad to see what was once a great state go down the drain.  People have lost their damn minds there.



Yup, that's why so many of us have left Kalifornia.   Still a nice place to visit, but.............. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: oldbike54 on January 13, 2016, 12:48:26 PM
  Spent a week riding in SF mid 1990's , which obviously was 29 years ago , damn . However , the experience was pleasant enough , didn't witness any thing that doesn't happen in any other city , in fact most drivers and other riders were courteous enough . Has it changed that much ???

  Dusty
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 13, 2016, 12:53:24 PM
  Spent a week riding in SF mid 1990's , which obviously was 29 years ago , damn . However , the experience was pleasant enough , didn't witness any thing that doesn't happen in any other city , in fact most drivers and other riders were courteous enough . Has it changed that much ???



Dusty, it's not the drivers, it's the politicians operating the state that have driven so many of us out with their inane decisions and laws.  I've seen more reckless drivers in the South than anywhere out West.

  Dusty
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: ohiorider on January 13, 2016, 12:57:26 PM
Remember StarBoyz, anyone?
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: oldbike54 on January 13, 2016, 01:05:30 PM
 Let's see if we can gently steer this away from politics . We had one deputy acting poorly which is very unfortunate , but does happen , and it sounds like the authorities dealt with it . Not sure we can draw sweeping conclusions from this one case . Every state , county , and city has problems fellas .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 13, 2016, 01:10:04 PM
Let's see if we can gently steer this away from politics . We had one deputy acting poorly which is very unfortunate , but does happen , and it sounds like the authorities dealt with it . Not sure we can draw sweeping conclusions from this one case . Every state , county , and city has problems fellas .

  Dusty


I don't want to start a political fight here, but what I stated is why more people are leaving this state than entering it.   New York state has the same issues.  If you don't care how your state operates then none of this matters to you and that's OK.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: oldbike54 on January 13, 2016, 01:17:54 PM

I don't want to start a political fight here, but what I stated is why more people are leaving this state than entering it.   New York state has the same issues.  If you don't care how your state operates then none of this matters to you and that's OK.

 That is the beauty of our country , don't like it in one place , move . AND , while most of us care how our state operates , WG isn't the place to discuss our beliefs .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: canuguzzi on January 13, 2016, 01:30:28 PM
This is about motorcyclists and how the public in general perceives those of us who ride. I don't see this as a political issue at all but one of how just a few can really damage how motorcyclists are seen in general.

There is other video of what these riders were doing and it is scary to watch as they nearly cleared intersections with both wheels off the ground, in a city where lots of people walk and traffic is often very heavy.

Similar behavior can be seen by some car drivers, they have shut down freeways doing donuts and stuff like that. The public though, doesn't look at it the same way as when motorcyclists do this kind of stuff. It doesn't help when you hear the really loud piped bikes where the riders think making as much noise as possible will actually make people move over for them.

The result is that with the cars many people think  it is kids or something like that but when it comes to motorcycles, the term "Motorcycle Gang" is used.

When car drivers stop all lanes of a freeway to perform exhibitions of speed and such it makes the news one day if that. This has been shown everyday for about a week and then hits the local online media too. It became a pretty big deal on the news. The cars? Short mention, next day nothing.

It sure didn't help that the leader of that mess was a deputy sheriff.

Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 13, 2016, 01:37:30 PM
Old bike 54 -- Mid nineties, 29 years ago?  Must be the new math they teach.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: oldbike54 on January 13, 2016, 01:39:21 PM
Old bike 54 -- Mid nineties, 29 years ago?  Must be the new math they teach.

 Gonna blame that on old age , meant to type 20  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: not-fishing on January 13, 2016, 02:28:24 PM
Gonna blame that on old age , meant to type 20  :laugh:

 Dusty

I've learned not to do the math just give the time.  I haven't ridden SF since the '70's on a Cafe Bike and I remember it as an "everyone's out to get me" experience which is not surprising since I'm usually in a little car in SF.

And then there's that one time in the early 80's that I drove through the Financial District of SF in a "highly modified" lifted Bronco Ultimate Hunting Machine.  All the little Mercedes, BMW's and Porsche's gave me all the room I wanted. 

it looked a lot like this only with a big winch -- in always muddy brown

(http://images.mautofied.com/adphotos/10197541_201011259301.jpg)

Funny how that works...

 
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 13, 2016, 05:26:01 PM


And then there's that one time in the early 80's that I drove through the Financial District of SF in a "highly modified" lifted Bronco Ultimate Hunting Machine.  All the little Mercedes, BMW's and Porsche's gave me all the room I wanted. 

it looked a lot like this only with a big winch -- in always muddy brown

(http://images.mautofied.com/adphotos/10197541_201011259301.jpg)

Funny how that works...
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That's because they didn't want you to squish their status symbols.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Randown on January 13, 2016, 07:56:14 PM

WHAT.AN.IDIOT.

Cali....the land of fruits and nuts.  Really sad to see what was once a great state go down the drain.  People have lost their damn minds there.

Yup, that's why so many of us have left Kalifornia.   Still a nice place to visit, but.............. :rolleyes:

Well CA is the most populous state so if some crackpots get on the news it may have something to do with the sample size.

CA crushes all states in GDP & tops some countries you might find hard to believe like Italy, Australia & Canada. We can't possibly be too dysfunctional.

I tell my aging mother to try & not make judgements based on TV news sensationalism.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Moto Rizzi on January 13, 2016, 08:28:05 PM
Remember StarBoyz, anyone?



Being from Akron yes. Those guys were idiots that abused there bikes. The only time I abused my bikes was when the law was chasing me and I was running for my life. Fairlawn, Bath and Copley police hate bikes in my mind. Redneck wannabe officers.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: rob-mg on January 13, 2016, 08:33:17 PM
I don't know how big a story this is in San Francisco, but elsewhere it is a non-story.

Here in New York, people aren't exactly up in arms about deputy sherrifs doing wheelies, given rather more serious police issues.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: canuguzzi on January 13, 2016, 08:44:12 PM
I don't know how big a story this is in San Francisco, but elsewhere it is a non-story.

Here in New York, people aren't exactly up in arms about deputy sherrifs doing wheelies, given rather more serious police issues.

That is true of most stories, they are usually regional. I tried to keep this non political and avoid that stuff. I saw this as motorcycle related.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: oldbike54 on January 13, 2016, 08:46:12 PM
That is true of most stories, they are usually regional. I tried to keep this non political and avoid that stuff. I saw this as motorcycle related.

 Yeah , let's leave the cop bashing out of this , thanks .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Zinfan on January 13, 2016, 09:25:08 PM
I've ridden my motorcycle through San Francisco, Oakland, East Bay Area, Los Angeles and San Diego within the last two years and never saw any of this stuff.  I have seen reckless lane splitters (I have split lanes but at slow speeds) zipping around but this stuff is at a higher level.  It isn't the norm in California any more than it is normal for a bike group to block in a car and beat the driver (Last year in New York City).  I guess it is more the youtube phenom as now anyone can get a gopro camera and post stupid stuff on the internet.  To get the views I guess you need to keep the risk up.  Seems I've heard Huston is another area where groups of motorcycles go on out of control stunting so Texas must all be the same right?
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 13, 2016, 09:54:30 PM
Well CA is the most populous state so if some crackpots get on the news it may have something to do with the sample size.

CA crushes all states in GDP & tops some countries you might find hard to believe like Italy, Australia & Canada. We can't possibly be too dysfunctional.

I tell my aging mother to try & not make judgements based on TV news sensationalism.


Ca. used to have the #6 largest in GDP.  Now It's #8 or less.  Plus this doesn't consider the debt the state has.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Randown on January 14, 2016, 08:03:31 AM

Ca. used to have the #6 largest in GDP.  Now It's #8 or less.  Plus this doesn't consider the debt the state has.

Yes but that's #8 in the WORLD. Some rankings using different metrics still have CA as #10 in the WORLD & #1 in the USA by a WIDE margin.

Debt is what makes the economy hum, every dollar in your wallet or number in your savings account came from someone else's debt - you can thank CA for doing its share to keep dollars available & circulating.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Arizona Wayne on January 24, 2016, 01:42:07 PM

Yes but that's #8 in the WORLD. Some rankings using different metrics still have CA as #10 in the WORLD & #1 in the USA by a WIDE margin.




Debt is what makes the economy hum, every dollar in your wallet or number in your savings account came from someone else's debt - you can thank CA for doing its share to keep dollars available & circulating.


Debt is what causes inflation, where the US dollar is worth less than it used to be.
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: ken farr on January 24, 2016, 02:19:37 PM
Let's see if we can gently steer this away from politics . We had one deputy acting poorly which is very unfortunate , but does happen , and it sounds like the authorities dealt with it . Not sure we can draw sweeping conclusions from this one case . Every state , county , and city has problems fellas .

  Dusty


Awright Dusty:

  Enough is darn near Enough.....if you insist on slathering common sense and objectivity to posts, I will report you to a Moderat......wait.. ...never mind.


 :grin:


kjf
Title: Re: Why? As if motorcyclists need more bad PR
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 24, 2016, 04:29:59 PM
  Cop bashing was not necessary, bashing of stupid rider behavior is.  The fact that he WAS ( past tense ),
 a cop was incidental.  You will note that he is no longer a cop and this is as it should be.