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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: jas67 on January 16, 2016, 11:02:22 AM
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If you missed the deals in August, here's your chance. Out the door pricing is about what it was in August, but, with free shipping to your door!
Red Stone, $6,999: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-V7-Stone-FREE-SHIPPING-/161946164787?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25b4be5e33:g:SkoAAOSw7FRWYhEu&item=161946164787 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-V7-Stone-FREE-SHIPPING-/161946164787?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25b4be5e33:g:SkoAAOSw7FRWYhEu&item=161946164787)
Silver/Grey Special: $7,399: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-V7-Special-FREE-SHIPPING-/161946164351?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25b4be5c7f:g:n8oAAOSwp5JWYheD&item=161946164351 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-V7-Special-FREE-SHIPPING-/161946164351?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25b4be5c7f:g:n8oAAOSwp5JWYheD&item=161946164351)
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Moto International also has V7 deals: $5,999 before all the other stuff.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcd/5401060679.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcd/5401070969.html
I really like the black and orange.
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Moto International also has V7 deals: $5,999 before all the other stuff.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcd/5401060679.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/mcd/5401070969.html
I really like the black and orange.
There are great deals to be had on left over V7's all over! :thumb:
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Yet more,
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/mcd/5392465663.html
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I bought a V7 II, passing on the summer/fall deal, and would also have passed on this deal. I held off on buying a V7 because I wanted ABS and knew, due to European regulatory requirements, that it was coming. The six speed transmission was a bonus. These discounted bikes are a good deal if you don't care about those issues, but the reality is that they are being discounted for a second time in six months for a reason.
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Thus far, I've seen nothing that would prompt me to trade my '14 V7S on a newer V7II. That's all I'll say about that...
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Thus far, I've seen nothing that would prompt me to trade my '14 V7S on a newer V7II. That's all I'll say about that...
I was not trying to turn this into a V7 vs V7 II discussion, and certainly not into a discussion on why you should, or should not, sell your V7 in order to buy a V7 II.
I was talking about new V7 buyers and why I think Moto Guzzi has discounted the V7 I bikes again.
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Thus far, I've seen nothing that would prompt me to trade my '14 V7S on a newer V7II. That's all I'll say about that...
:1: Yup!
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Thus far, I've seen nothing that would prompt me to trade my '14 V7S on a newer V7II. That's all I'll say about that...
Here's why I think Moto Guzzi has dropped the price again. First, I believe, rightly or wrongly, that most Moto Guzzi buyers aren't particularly price sensitive. Secondly, I think that within two to three years, trying to sell a contemporary bike without ABS is going to be like trying to sell a five year old computer.
I wouldn't touch the clearance V7s at even the current discounted price unless I didn't care about ABS (which I do, and the new transmission is welcome), and also didn't care about re-sale value.
It's not an accident that the new Ducati Scrambler comes with ABS.
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Thus far, I've seen nothing that would prompt me to trade my '14 V7S on a newer V7II. That's all I'll say about that...
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I'm extremely happy with my '14 V7S.
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Anyway, the point of the first four posts in this thread is that Moto Guzzi's latest pricing for the V7 I is a "killer deal"
My response, for the reasons expressed above, is that whether that pricing is a "killer deal" depends on what one wants.
In my case, I rejected the August pricing (ultimately extended, if I recall, through December), and also have no interest in the current deeper discount.
Just a different take that some prospective V7 purchasers might find worth considering.
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There's no way I'm trading my 750 Breva for any newer V7, which I think are inferior. It seems some here are more interested in resale value than if a newer version of a V7 is really that much better than the 1 they already have. I'm not in the habit of changing my MCs every few years just because a newer bike version has some new doo dad on it mine doesn't. :smiley:
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There's no way I'm trading my 750 Breva for any newer V7, which I think are inferior. It seems some here are more interested in resale value than if a newer version of a V7 is really that much better than the 1 they already have. I'm not in the habit of changing my MCs every few years just because a newer bike version has some new doo dad on it mine doesn't. :smiley:
This thread is about whether a twice discounted V7 I at a "killer price" is in fact a "killer price".
What you've mostly said is that you think that a V7, in comparison with your Breva, is "inferior".
Congrats on your superior bike.
P.S. Do yah figure that there's just a chance that those who want ABS might want it for reasons that go beyond wanting "do dads"?
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This thread is about whether a twice discounted V7 I at a "killer price" is in fact a "killer price".
What you've mostly said is that you think that a V7, in comparison with your Breva, is "inferior".
Congrats on your superior bike.
P.S. Do yah figure that there's just a chance that those who want ABS might want it for reasons that go beyond wanting "do dads"?
If you're a competent rider you don't need ABS. ABS is to make inferior riders feel safe. Whether it will really do that is suspect, IMHO.
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The point I was trying to make in starting this thread was to inform the members here of good deals to be had.
I was not trying to start a V7-I vs. V7-II discussion, or a Breva 750 vs. V7 discussion.
I had dragged my feet and missed out on the August deals. The price went back up $1,000 in Sept, and then, the remaining discount expired the end of October.
I was lucky enough to get my slightly used '14 thanks to Cam. If not, I'd likely be buying the black & orange V7 Special from AF1.
So, if anyone here regrets not buying one when they were discounted early, here's another chance.
That is all.
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If you're a competent rider you don't need ABS. ABS is to make inferior riders feel safe. Whether it will really do that is suspect, IMHO.
This is the kind of statement that makes this whole forum frequently come across as completely out of touch with the 21st century and modern technology. There's so much that goes on here that makes one wonder whether anyone is under 50. Although even then, it's hard to understand how anyone at 50 could be so out of touch with technology. And if you tell me that you're under 50, it just makes it worse. It's often hard to distinguish what goes on in this forum from a Harley Davidson hangout. You may think that that's cool, but it sure isn't the future of Moto Guzzi.
No, I'm not going to start it, but there needs to be a Moto Guzzi forum that (to use a Yiddish term for which there isn't an English translation) isn't completely dominated by a bunch of alte kakers.
I'll keep any future posts to strictly technical issues. At the end of the day, I'm more interested in the materials composition of a V7 than I am in being told by some faceless idiot that if I'm interested in ABS I'm an "inferior rider".
And God forbid that I should suggest that there is a reason why Moto Guzzi has yet again dropped prices on V7s, and that maybe these bikes may not be, for some people, the "killer deal" that some of you think.
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Fortunately, Moto Guzzi installs a back to the future button on its ABS equipped models. It shuts off the ABS and directs the rider to the nearest pharmacy where kerosene is stocked next to the gerbils and milk of amnesia just past the Niagara Falls brand of poopie pants underwear and Velcro polyester jumpsuits.
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"the nearest pharmacy where kerosene is stocked"
Not having a generator at my fishing camp, I do use kerosene lamps when we lose power. Never seen it in a pharmacy, though. At one time, I guess they stocked it, like tubes for tube amps and televisions. But these days, the tubes for my amp come from the Czech Republic, and the kerosene comes from the closest general store to my camp. The nearest pharmacy is 60 miles away.
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I was not trying to turn this into a V7 vs V7 II discussion, and certainly not into a discussion on why you should, or should not, sell your V7 in order to buy a V7 II.
I was talking about new V7 buyers and why I think Moto Guzzi has discounted the V7 I bikes again.
I know. I made my statement to encourage those thinking about an older V7 Special/Stone.
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was that milk of amnesia in isle 2--or--what was I looking for ???????
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What was this thread about again? :azn:
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Jay,
Thanks for posting this, I had missed the August promotion because I was away. I have been interested in the 2014 - 2015 models, since they appear to have all the upgrades that I like, but lack some of the extra electronic components that I don't require. All personal preference, I have nothing against ABS. I have ABS on my R 1100 RS, and it's just fine.
My thoughts on why MG is doing the promotion are that there are too many bikes stockpiled, it's January, and the promotion is for non current models.
John
1983 Le Mans III
The point I was trying to make in starting this thread was to inform the have members here of good deals to be had.
I was not trying to start a V7-I vs. V7-II discussion, or a Breva 750 vs. V7 discussion.
I had dragged my feet and missed out on the August deals. The price went back up $1,000 in Sept, and then, the remaining discount expired the end of October.
I was lucky enough to get my slightly used '14 thanks to Cam. If not, I'd likely be buying the black & orange V7 Special from AF1.
So, if anyone here regrets not buying one when they were discounted early, here's another chance.
That is all.
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jas67,
You had a competent post. "Arizona Wayne" (I know who he is) just likes to argue.
Tex
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There's no way I'm trading my 750 Breva for any newer V7, which I think are inferior.
What exactly do you think is interior?
The better fuel range in the better material (metal) fuel tank?
The better powerband of the better looking motor that requires less maintenance (no TB syncing or TPS adjustment)?
The better looking/lower unsprung weight wheels?
:tongue: :evil: :tongue:
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I took advantage of the special back over the Summer with my '15 standard Stone. Best bike ever. Buy one you won't regret it.
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No, I'm not going to start it, but there needs to be a Moto Guzzi forum that (to use a Yiddish term for which there isn't an English translation) isn't completely dominated by a bunch of alte kakers.
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Oh yes there is. :wink:
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What exactly do you think is interior?
The better fuel range in the better material (metal) fuel tank?
The better powerband of the better looking motor that requires less maintenance (no TB syncing or TPS adjustment)?
The better looking/lower unsprung weight wheels?
:tongue: :evil: :tongue:
What I find inferior on the new V7s is their seats and not having 17" rims front & rear. My Breva has a very linear power band and hope the V7s do too. If you don't have 17" rims f & R it isn't going to handle as good assuming you can tell the difference, + I have more tire options available Right now my favorite combo is a Kenda front & Shinko rear.
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Alte Kaker: "A crotchety, fussy, ineffectual old man."
Now that hurts. I'm not fussy. (I don't think....) :wink:
Terry
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What I find inferior on the new V7s is their seats and not having 17" rims front & rear. My Breva has a very linear power band and hope the V7s do too. If you don't have 17" rims f & R it isn't going to handle as good assuming you can tell the difference, + I have more tire options available Right now my favorite combo is a Kenda front & Shinko rear.
Let me get this straight.
The V7 IIs, although you don't own one, is inherently inferior to your Brava. Congratulations on owning a superior motorcycle.
Also, according to an earlier post from you in this thread, anyone who wants ABS is by definition "an inferior rider".
Do you have any more words of wisdom for us?
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What I find inferior on the new V7s is their seats and not having 17" rims front & rear. My Breva has a very linear power band and hope the V7s do too. If you don't have 17" rims f & R it isn't going to handle as good assuming you can tell the difference, + I have more tire options available Right now my favorite combo is a Kenda front & Shinko rear.
Meh, color me unimpressed.
Wheels, if THAT important to you, are an easy swap.
Ask Perazz
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How can any of this make a significant difference in the real world riding of the V7?
Let me know when world championship points are awarded for street riding.
17 or 18 inch wheels? 38 or 40 hp? Yea, I know the difference but does it really matter? We'll all be dead one day and let's not hope things like this are what we carry to the grave!
BTW-it's a great deal on a great bike. If I didn't already have mine I'd be all over it.
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Having spent some time riding a V7C and my V7 Stone back-to-back, I'll say that the difference in the motors is bigger than 2-3 peak hp, it's one of torque band and feel and it's significant enough that I prefer the later, not that I think there's a problem with the former.
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I get that. The numbers are not that important, at least to me.
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I get that. The numbers are not that important, at least to me.
Nor me and they're not what I talk about when I do say that I believe the 1TB motor is "better" than the previous 2TB version.
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Yep.
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All I know is this little bike is an ace. Commuted the 17 miles to work this morning in single digit weather. Not hickup nor complaint. Purred right along.
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so this stupid post drags on and on to the point where I just can't take it any more so I bought one from Portland on Wednesday night. $5990 and $595 to ship it to Tucson for me. no freight or s/u.
CRAP! how can you not buy it at this deal for a 2015. due date is 2/12 to join the 2001 EV already here.
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so this stupid post drags on and on to the point where I just can't take it any more so I bought one from Portland on Wednesday night. $5990 and $595 to ship it to Tucson for me. no freight or s/u.
CRAP! how can you not buy it at this deal for a 2015. due date is 2/12 to join the 2001 EV already here.
great deal and congrats ....nice bike great value
now to all the fellows that think they know what they are talking about other than the original thread and go on and on about sweet didley crap :violent1:
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Vag, sweet, enjoy!
Not to ask the people that think they know what they are talking about other than the original thread and go on and on about sweet didley crap :violent1:
A perceptive person might realize the rest of the content was a discussion of relative merits which might be equated with relative value and THAT speaks directly to the original topic.
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so this stupid post drags on and on to the point where I just can't take it any more so I bought one from Portland on Wednesday night. $5990 and $595 to ship it to Tucson for me. no freight or s/u.
CRAP! how can you not buy it at this deal for a 2015. due date is 2/12 to join the 2001 EV already here.
For comparison, in June I sold my '13 Stone with 12K miles on it, off warranty, with only a few 100 miles left on the tires, for $6000. I'd say you got a good deal.
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so this stupid post drags on and on to the point where I just can't take it any more so I bought one from Portland on Wednesday night. $5990 and $595 to ship it to Tucson for me. no freight or s/u.
CRAP! how can you not buy it at this deal for a 2015. due date is 2/12 to join the 2001 EV already here.
I'm glad I could help :wink:
Congrats, and enjoy!
Which color?
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Awesome freaking deal, man....smart move. If I didn't already sell mine due to it being a tad to cramped for me I would be all over it adding another to the stable at that price.
As it was, Tuesday I pick up my V7 II Stone in that cool silvery-gray color. I, too, got a good deal by getting top dollar for my trade-in bike, so my OTD price was $5K. I am terrible excited to pick her up!
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tank is bright red but without the white stripe of the new one. just what I asked for a few weeks ago. real color not flat matt.
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Vag, sweet, enjoy!
A perceptive person might realize the rest of the content was a discussion of relative merits which might be equated with relative value and THAT speaks directly to the original topic.
Oh come on ....the rest of the content was a discussion of no merit ...the thread was the deal that was offered not anything else .Simply yes its a good deal or not , with encouragement if warranted or the other way.
Your response and others was off topic and this site is riff with it.
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Oh come on ....the rest of the content was a discussion of no merit ...the thread was the deal that was offered not anything else .Simply yes its a good deal or not , with encouragement if warranted or the other way.
Your response and others was off topic and this site is riff with it.
You must be a blast a cocktail parties :tongue:
It's called a conversation not a dissertation.
It doesn't have to stay religiously on topic (as you've now proven by straying further than anyone before you).
But I stand by my assertion that a related discussion of the relative merits of the bike in question helps put in context whether or not the OP was in fact a "deal". If you can get a used older model cheaper with features or characteristics you prefer, then it's no deal.
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What was this thread about again? :azn:
pleasant conversation i believe :grin: eh Kev