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Title: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 20, 2016, 08:15:53 PM: This photo was taken on our first trip to Colorado in 2002. As anyone that has ridden through Colorado you are well aware that it you have to pack a wide variety of clothing (Unless you own Aerostitch or similar gear). How many bikes can take the kind of loading shown here plus riding double up and do it any any sane speed for hours on end? Plus we rode through several of the major passes and into Leadville. The T-3 ate it all for lunch.

(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/jpeters16/DSC02053.jpg) (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/jpeters16/media/DSC02053.jpg.html)

GliderJohn
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: groundhog105 on January 20, 2016, 08:22:05 PM: Great picture.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 20, 2016, 09:02:24 PM: That's a sweet bike :thumb:
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Moto on January 20, 2016, 09:09:31 PM: I think the answer to the question is, "lots."

But I did find my own T3 to be amazing going over the mountains out West, a real 80 mph tractor up those long grades.

Great picture!

Moto
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: MotoG5 on January 20, 2016, 10:28:46 PM: Guzzis can haul the goods. OK, it did feel a little lite in the front end.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/GuzziRider/IMGA0002.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/GuzziRider/media/IMGA0002.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Kev m on January 21, 2016, 07:25:46 AM: How many?

Plenty

(http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/medium/ME_1.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/1961littledave/P5130098.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/HOWNDOG/Vehicle/2013trip2b006crop_zpsf31c84f5.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/rooster52478/20130816_150801_zpsdaa9da4a.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cuzq5-FYIwE/Uju2ZW5EuII/AAAAAAAACN8/LTb8oKAUkcE/w829-h622-no/IMGP2970.JPG)

and one of my favorites (883 PA to AK and back):

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-67x5V21Myd4/RozwERunXfI/AAAAAAAABBE/-BEIQifnxLM/s640-Ic42/IMG_1464.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jEvZGjmLsys/RozwKxunXgI/AAAAAAAABBM/uC8ybN-S_30/s640-Ic42/IMG_1465.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wz3KabZ4Yig/Rpr7XgDXu-I/AAAAAAAABUo/QSOcgy2SoxA/s640-Ic42/IMG_1745.JPG)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: nick949 on January 21, 2016, 07:28:44 AM: Even the smaller ones.

(http://www.adamsheritage.info/images/swisha/plate2.jpg)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 21, 2016, 07:34:58 AM: (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Foto/i-F9GJHtW/0/L/067_1-L.jpg)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 21, 2016, 08:08:57 AM: photoguzzi, you still have some room on the tail rack. :grin:
GliderJohn
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Tobit on January 21, 2016, 09:44:49 AM: Anytime I ride I'm riding "double." Here's the LM IV fairly loaded. Question is, how many actually know and adhere to GVWR and published load capacity?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/eroman/0426141530-00.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/eroman/0426141128-00.jpg)

Tobit
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 21, 2016, 09:56:40 AM: Quote from tobit:
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Question is, how many actually know and adhere to GVWR and published load capacity?

Guzzis are kind of like DC-3s. Yea, there is a gross weight spec but it never has seemed to stop anyone from putting more on if there was room. Same with the DC-3, if there was more room more got stuffed into it. Both seem to take it fine.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: sib on January 21, 2016, 10:00:15 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Ygg2R0w4o
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on January 21, 2016, 10:06:41 AM: Where on earth are you going to need all that crap?
Tent, clothes, food, sleeping bag, stove, tools all fits in the top box and a small duffel
2 week trip.

(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s526/Kiwi_Roy/CIMG6915_zps4645b440.jpg)
Don't you find all that weight takes away from the bike handling?
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Matteo on January 21, 2016, 08:13:09 PM: Only time I ever had a problem was when I loaded 45 lbs of red salmon fillets in the trunk of my Jackal, I had to lay on the tank all the way home.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 21, 2016, 08:24:56 PM: In 1965, I was at a Yamaha dealer in Illinois when the dealer introduced me to a retirement age gentleman who had recently ridden double with his wife from mid Illinois to Arizona on one of those pressed sheet metal framed 50cc bikes, a Yamaha something or other like so many first time buyers used back then. How a chubby old man and his wife could tolerate the both of them on that tiny machine was a puzzle to me.
Especially for so long a journey. I don't know how much baggage they carried but it couldn't have been much more than the absolute necessities. I didn't learn if they were still married after the trip either.
That much closeness can be unsettling, not to mentioning cramping.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: flip on January 21, 2016, 10:54:04 PM: (https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/530x396q90/r/542/nxtb.jpg)

This was just before my 330lb self got on and took a little 1000+ mile ride home from Canada.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Shorty on January 22, 2016, 12:07:44 AM: (http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/tons-of-anarchy.jpg)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: canuguzzi on January 22, 2016, 07:06:54 AM: Quote from: Shorty on January 22, 2016, 12:07:44 AM
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/tons-of-anarchy.jpg)

When your butt starts eating your seat its time for a truck.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: blackcat on January 22, 2016, 08:07:31 AM: Quote from: Kiwi_Roy on January 21, 2016, 10:06:41 AM
Where on earth are you going to need all that crap?
Tent, clothes, food, sleeping bag, stove, tools all fits in the top box and a small duffel
2 week trip.

Don't you find all that weight takes away from the bike handling?

Seriously, I try to take as little as possible.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/48A8B75A-DF74-41A3-BC66-B26F92EFFA9B_zpsvx1mtl6m.jpg)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: HDGoose on January 22, 2016, 08:34:04 AM: I used to have huge tank bags that carried my tent and sleeping bag. That left my trunk for helmets and jackets while stopped.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Calijackalbob on January 22, 2016, 02:04:44 PM: Quote from: Shorty on January 22, 2016, 12:07:44 AM
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/tons-of-anarchy.jpg)

Love that pic,..... and the patch. Fat bottomed girls make the world go round. :gotpics:
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Vasco DG on January 22, 2016, 03:49:22 PM: Quote from: blackcat on January 22, 2016, 08:07:31 AM
Seriously, I try to take as little as possible.

Quite so, since I've decided I've essentially finished with camping as I don't enjoy it any more I carry not much more than clothes, puncture repair kit, (On longer trips.) laptop/Guzzidiag cables, iPad/phone plus charger and maybe a couple of tools like a set of folding Allen keys and a small screwdriver. I'm not planning on rebuilding my bike at the side of the road and if I get a gash in a tyre that can't be plugged I'm going to be looking at a tow anyway.

A group of us are headed off to the Flinders Ranges and n April/May. I expect to carry everything I need in my Givi tank bag and two 'Tekno' panniers that are similar in size to the factory Griso luggage. In most ways this is travelling 'Heavy'. Daniel travels the world with only a small stuffer bag on the back of the bike and while that is what I'd like to aspire too I'm just not efficient or organised enough! :grin:

Pete
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: radguzzi on January 22, 2016, 04:20:22 PM: Sue and me on the way to the National in South Dakota in '04... on the just broken in '04 EV. Great ride.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img910/797/MW6erg.jpg)

As with Pete, we do not camp much anymore choosing a more comfy B & B so we do not carry as much now a days. Solo I would camp but not with Sue on long trips...

And some vagrant we found when we got there....

(http://imageshack.com/a/img905/2387/HqwAkE.jpg)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: WitchCityGuzzi on January 22, 2016, 04:44:37 PM: 8,000 mile cross country trip...

Never felt any different. Total pack mule.

(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o71/DougRitchie/X-country%202012/IMAG0302.jpg) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/DougRitchie/media/X-country%202012/IMAG0302.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: radguzzi on January 22, 2016, 04:46:30 PM: Same EV with a lighter load the very next year heading for the '05 National in West Virginia...

(http://imageshack.com/a/img910/2391/RftOkI.jpg)

And continuing on the Barber Museum in 'Bama...

(http://imageshack.com/a/img903/1401/vAQVvj.jpg)
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: bad Chad on January 22, 2016, 05:04:02 PM: Things may have changed now, but I recall when I bought my 99 Bassa, its carrying capacity was much higher than any other bike I could find. I don't recall what it was but it was in the area of a good 100/150lbs more than most. I thought they should have used that as a major selling point, but of course they never did.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: canuck750 on January 22, 2016, 06:00:16 PM: I think some of you guys need to learn to pack less stuff!

All you really need is a couple pair of clean underwear, socks and two or three T shirts, a pair or two of clean jeans and your shaving kit. I wear my Technick riding pants and coat with removable liners and carry one extra pair of gloves. Most of it fits in my small tank bag and it has suited me for a lot of 10 day road trips. Soft side bags get rain gear, tools etc.

Camping, as great as it is to have a camp fire, a nice dry and clean motel room bed is sure a fine thing to find at the end of a days riding. Motel sinks and showers are great for washing clothes in every couple nights.

I venture to guess that giant tail bag hanging out the back of a Sportster (or any other bike) would impair handling.

The older I get the less I want to take with me.
Title: Re: How many bikes could hold up to this kind of loading
Post by: Kev m on January 22, 2016, 06:41:37 PM: Quote from: canuck750 on January 22, 2016, 06:00:16 PM

I venture to guess that giant tail bag hanging out the back of a Sportster (or any other bike) would impair handling.

Sadly not much, the Sporty isn't actually walking the thread of razor sharp handling and light weight in the first place, so it doesn't really effect it all that much... Same was true of my Jackal, and Breva... Aw hell, I guess MY weight is much greater an influence than any luggage I strap to the bike.