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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: PJPR01 on February 03, 2016, 08:50:29 AM
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Since I'm hosting a new Red/Black Griso for a while, I've been given the green light by its owner to use it and modify as I see fit to put some miles on it and break it in over the next few months.
It comes with a very small windscreen, no fairing, a set of side bags and a soft rear bag...all else is stock.
For those who have a Griso, what sort of modifications have you made to screens/fairings/seat or other to set it up for all day riding?
If you can post pics of your mods that would be great...Thanks!
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There was a Tenni Griso with the Givi 755 windscreen and Hepco/Becker bags that looked great for touring. It was owned by a Gentleman in Florida who sold it later.
Leafman might have pics of it from the 2012 Florida campout
Dean
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I took many extended weekend trips on my 06 Speed Triple with a flyscreen and throw over soft bags
I don't think that any major mods are needed
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Cool...appreciate the tips!
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I have seen pics of the Griso with a Givi "Tanklock" bag installed. Pretty cool to be able to remove the tank bag so quickly and not worry about messing up the paint. Looked good too. I liked the idea so much I did the same thing to my Norge --
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Dart Manta windscreen don't bother with the regular Dart, RKA bags, rear rack, 1" dropped footpegs. but I did do the tail chop For the rack get the more expensive Stucchi. It goes on a heck of a lot easier than the $100 cheaper Moto Guzzi rack where you have to bore holes in the rear bodywork.
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I do like the bags because the go on & off in minutes. A strap around the back under the seat and two ties to the passenger peg mounts.
Here's a set of RKA 55's bags on a Lemans:
(http://rka-luggage.com/A14%20Photo%20Gallery/07motguz/pics/MotoGuzzi1bi.jpg)
Now for my cold morning commutes I'm considering heated grips.
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Good stuff...the list is growing! Thanks again fellas!
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For those who have a Griso, what sort of modifications have you made to screens/fairings/seat or other to set it up for all day riding?
1" lower foot pegs made by Knight Design... http://www.knightdesignllc.com/Products/Motorcycle/Moto-Guzzi/Griso-1200/Moto-Guzzi-Griso-1200-Menu.html
CORRECTLY set up the suspension for the use you intend. The service manual has suggestions for this. I started with the 'racing' setup and tweaked it to my needs.
The compression damping on the fork is WAY too harsh out of the crate- plan on backing that out a few clicks
The rebound damping needs to be set front and rear
Sag front and rear for how you are going to load up the rig (loaded for touring vs solo vs two-up)
Drop the forks in the trees if you find the handling a little too 'wallow-y' or not as sharp as you would like.
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I have a Griso large screen and the stock bags. They aren't huge but work for my several day long trips. I like how they snap on and off so I can store them in my motel room. They also come with probably worthless rain covers, trash bags would work better.
I also added a power cord to the battery for my heated vest and plugged a power cord into the aux plug for my GPS that lives in a RAM mount on the handlebars. Also have the stock luggage rack and use a tail bag on the seat. I also made a seat pad for longer days in the saddle, its a slab of foam in a nylon bag, but it makes it easier to ride all day.
The Griso makes a great touring bike, no fairing but I use extreme manliness to compensate.. :grin:
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Since I'm hosting a new Red/Black Griso for a while, I've been given the green light by its owner to use it and modify as I see fit to put some miles on it and break it in over the next few months.
It comes with a very small windscreen, no fairing, a set of side bags and a soft rear bag...all else is stock.
For those who have a Griso, what sort of modifications have you made to screens/fairings/seat or other to set it up for all day riding?
If you can post pics of your mods that would be great...Thanks!
A rear rack with a 4 gallon fuel cell so you don't have to stop every 125 mile to fuel up.
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Set up for camping trip to Rockies.
Motofizz tail bag
OEM saddle bags and small tank bag
OEM flyscreen
GPS with sunshade
National windshield (forget the model now) strapped in back, for westward passage over the plains or big storms
electronic cruise control
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A good seat is hard to find. I had Pirate upholstery in Kingston NY do mine. They cut out the tool box area and extended the pilot's perch back while raising and flattening it. On long rides I can slide around to keep away cramps. 1" lower pegs for me too.
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A rear rack with a 4 gallon fuel cell so you don't have to stop every 125 mile to fuel up.
Iron Butt style!! Love it! :grin: :grin:
In all seriousness though, doesn't it have a 5 gallon tank in total including reserve? I would hope it should get at least 40 mpg, similar to the Norge? Would hope to be able to eventually get 175 before tanking up...every 125 will be a royal pain the arse, as I can squeeze out 220 to 250 on the Norge.
Great suggestions...I like that idea of carrying the larger screen for the longer trips...smart idea!
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http://www.motomachines.com/Side-Carrier--Moto-Guzzi-Griso-850-1100-1200_p_995.html
http://www.motomachines.com/Rear-Rack--Moto-Guzzi-Griso-850-1100-1200_p_996.html
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Thanks Dean...indeed this Griso does have the side carriers and rear carrier already installed, plus the side bags and a rear soft bag. So from a bag perspective, I'm set...looking at the fairings, pegs and seat as then the most likely modifications if this becomes a permanent member of the Guzzi stable!
Many thanks all for the suggestions!
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In all seriousness though, doesn't it have a 5 gallon tank in total including reserve? I would hope it should get at least 40 mpg, similar to the Norge? Would hope to be able to eventually get 175 before tanking up...every 125 will be a royal pain the arse, as I can squeeze out 220 to 250 on the Norge.
I have a 4v griso (why do they call one an 8V and the other a 2V?) and my light comes on around 125 miles with EXACTLY 32 miles left after the light comes on taking it easy. There is no 'reserve' just pre-fuel light and post fuel light riding modes. I don't think I ever was close to 5 gallons on fill. I would plan on 125 mile range with a buffer in the fuel light. I always start hunting for fuel when the light comes on.
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Thanks Kirb...would you consider that 125 to be done at normal driving or more aggressive driving. I'll have to get thru a few tanks to get used to this much shorter range. It is a bummer there is no gas gauge, just the fuel light...so I wonder if the mileage on the Griso is closer to 30 mpg rather than 40 mpg.
STuff to learn... :grin:
Agreed on the valving nomenclature...funn y stuff. 2v = 4V overall, 4v= 8V overall...at least it's not a 3 valve Griso Trumpet or a 4 valve Griso French horn!
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I have a 4v griso (why do they call one an 8V and the other a 2V?) and my light comes on around 125 miles with EXACTLY 32 miles left after the light comes on taking it easy. There is no 'reserve' just pre-fuel light and post fuel light riding modes. I don't think I ever was close to 5 gallons on fill. I would plan on 125 mile range with a buffer in the fuel light. I always start hunting for fuel when the light comes on.
They call them that so that statements like yours won't be ambiguous. Which one do you have?
I have a 2V, and get 45 mpg on the Interstate, using cruise control. Less when having fun. YMMV.
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Thanks Dean...indeed this Griso does have the side carriers and rear carrier already installed, plus the side bags and a rear soft bag. So from a bag perspective, I'm set...looking at the fairings, pegs and seat as then the most likely modifications if this becomes a permanent member of the Guzzi stable!
Many thanks all for the suggestions!
Oh, come on, who are you kidding? Admit it, this bike is staying. :thumb:
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Yeah...the Try and Buy program here is strong...and it looks so damn good there too! Best would be if I can ride it and have my friend keep making the payments...ideal setup! :)
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That is if you can find one. I have that on my Breva works great.
Dean
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Sweet!
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Nicely setup there! Is that windscreen the Givi?
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I've added a small Puig screen. Fine for speeds up above 150 kmph.
Added a small luggage rack, to strap a duffle bag on. There's also room for a small piece of luggage on the end of the saddle.
By the time the low fuel level light comes on I'm ready for a quick stop. After about 200 km, I think.
Great bike for touring! For those long motorway hauls it'd be nice with cruise control, though.
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The Guzzi screen is NLA. The Dart Marlin looks to be a good alternative.
If you use Givi gear, you can get tank rings and other bits from Onur Kuraner. LINKY (http://www.ebay.com/sch/onurkuraner/m.html?item=331502804274&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562)
I have one of his tank rings and it's good kit.
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As for mileage, the stock map is not very economical. Any RPM over 5000 and the 8V goes 'glug glug glug'.
Oh year, I recommend an aftermarket seat. You will get numb bum after an hour or so with the stocker. I have a Corbin.
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:1: on Onur's ring.
The screen I have is a MRA, but too big. I cut it back to put it on the Rosso. The deflector is a wank ( crap idea ) at any speed above 50 mph it causes an annoying wind buffeting noise :shocked:
Very easy to mount though.
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Top Boxes double up for other uses too
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So what is the deal with that Griso? Friend loans it to you with barely any miles. Inquiring minds (I) want to know...
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So what is the deal with that Griso? Friend loans it to you with barely any miles. Inquiring minds (I) want to know...
Well...it's an interesting story. He first bought/traded his Tiger 800 for a Norge to do long distance rides after he heard how much fun I had on it doing a 2 week / 5000 mile trip. But the bike was a little too tall for him...so he consigned it. Another guy bought his Norge and rides with us. After trading in his Norge, he bought a V7, in the meantime had bought a VFR and restored it. Found the V7 to be underpowered vs. the VFR and sold it...then bought the Griso. In the interim, he bought the MOrgan (Green 3 wheeler) and finds that he enjoys riding that more than the Motos...but can't bring himself to sell the VFR. So the Griso is in limbo land.
So a brand new Griso with only 160 miles was put into my hands to ride for a bit and see if I like it enough to buy it..., so I'm going to put some miles on it over the next couple of months and see if it finds a permanent spot in the garage. It's a stunning looking bike, and kind of fun to have a roadster as well as the Norge...curious to see if I like it enough to keep it permanently. It's a 2015, so no roller tappet issue, in a great Red/Black combo. Just wondering if I have the patience to do another "break in"...and will see if the girlfriend also likes it, as she loves riding on the Norge which is well broken in, all setup exactly the way I like it, and smooth as silk.
Not a bad "problem" to have, right? :grin: :grin:
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Thanks guys for all the other tips and tricks on setting up the Griso, much appreciated, lots of great info and fotos here!
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wondering how you ended up setting up this bike? You show 2015 Griso in your signature...does that mean she found a home? What farkles did you end up with?
A tourable Griso seems to be a siren in my dreams, you see. Reading of others success or otherwise is helpful.
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Thanks Kidsmoke...a few pics to share, I'm very happy with the setup and yes the Griso did make it to my stable on a permanent basis earlier in the year...too good of a deal to pass up after all!
I put some lowered Knight design pegs on, changed the grips to Progrips for more comfort, replaced the standard Dart Screen with a Dart Marlin (better airflow for me...quiet and no turbulence), added the rear bag and side bags on a permanent basis, put a little air cushion on the seat and installed a Beetle map. After doing the first service right around 1000 miles, it's running beautifully smooth...very comfortable riding...and quite addictive! Put a little mount for my cellphone for navigation as well or sometimes for my SPOT device and also added a Throttlemeister, although I admit I don't use the cruise control much, even on long rides. Strapped my tent, sleeping bag on the back portion of the seat, secured by Rokstraps and all good to go all day long!
I do have a tank bag ring also ready to mount so i can switch the Givi Tank bag from the Norge to the Griso as needed...another project for a future weekend. I'm also quite pleased to see that I'm getting about 160 miles before the reserve light comes on and that's about 4 gallons of usage, so MPG results have been pretty good to even in the early stages here.
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Added 10 Liters of gas
Knight Design Lowered footpegs
Corban seat
Top Box
Small tank bag
GPS
Lexan Headlight Protector
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Added a decent pair of horns, I have since turned them horizontal to make self draining.
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Replaced the toaster grill and added a lump of rubber mat to deflect rocks
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The rear suspension is not up to much rough road work, I had to have it re-filled when I got back
Re Fuel Range
Having run out of gas several times on the trip I can say with some confidence,
Range on the tank alone is 355 km or (221 miles)
When the low level light comes on I have 75 km or (46 miles) remaining
I like the way the odometer comes on shortly after the light does and counts up to 75 (46)
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Added 10 Liters of gas
Knight Design Lowered footpegs
Corban seat
Decent horns
Top Box
Small tank bag
Replaced the toaster grill
GPS
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The rear suspension is not up to much rough road work, I had to have it re-filled when I got back
Where was the Arctic Circle shot taken ?
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Where was the Arctic Circle shot taken ?
:rolleyes: :whip2:
Nicely done both of yous guys.
Love that gas can shelf, Roy.
Seems that other than the seat and the exhaust, which neither of you messed with, the KD dropped pegs is at the top of the list for mods on these machines.
Roy on the toaster cover....I know there are a hand full of aftermarket options there as well. One I've seen actually closes it off from airflow. Is that your aim here? or cosmetics?
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Where was the Arctic Circle shot taken ?
At the Artic Circle
Lat 66 33N
I couldn't resist
Dempster Highway North of Dawson City Yukon
Yes the KD dropped pegs are an essential upgrade for my old bones
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:rolleyes: :whip2:
Nicely done both of yous guys.
Love that gas can shelf, Roy.
Seems that other than the seat and the exhaust, which neither of you messed with, the KD dropped pegs is at the top of the list for mods on these machines.
The shelf is just a simple "L" shape fixed to the passenger pegs with a couple of worm drive hose clips.
I used ROK straps to snug them up against the bags, just sprayed the 5L cans black to blend in with the bike.
1 5L can gave me the same range as my buddies Super Ten
I think the toaster just looks bad, i used a lump of 1/4" mesh on the front snd drilled what you see from 18 gauge.
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Sweet :thumb:
Good thing you didn't find out before you left
that you can't go there on that thing... :boozing:
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The 2v 4v 8v goofed me up for a while. A 2v head is a 4v Griso, a 4v head is an 8v Griso... Lol
As for touring, I've added 1" bar risers, 1" knight lowered pegs and a small Dart fairing, and as others have said adjusted the suspension. I haven't done more than 3 days, but I find the Griso very comfortable. If doing long distance or major miles or days I'd just want to add a better wind screen.
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At the Artic Circle
Lat 66 33N
I couldn't resist
Dempster Highway North of Dawson City Yukon
Yes the KD dropped pegs are an essential upgrade for my old bones
Ok thankyou
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Sweet :thumb:
Good thing you didn't find out before you left
that you can't go there on that thing... :boozing:
Just what I was thinking.. Everybody knows you need a wallet breaker for that job.. :evil: :grin:
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I think the toaster just looks bad, i used a lump of 1/4" mesh on the front snd drilled what you see from 18 gauge.
You look like you've gone within a Bee's dick of blanking it if completely,why not just remove it ?
Especially since you have indicated (correctly) that it looks pox..although most seem to disagree.
Furthermore...
Those holes look about 1/2" dia.
There's about 39 of them, that's about 6 square inches of area give or take. A patch 2"x3" if you will.
Just give it the flick, your eyes will thank you for it..
BTW
In the shot showing the horn fitment, what am I seeing the looks like a piece of cut off tube, and what is all the shit and corruption on the header..?
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You look like you've gone within a Bee's dick of blanking it if completely,why not just remove it ?
Especially since you have indicated (correctly) that it looks pox..although most seem to disagree.
Furthermore...
Those holes look about 1/2" dia.
There's about 39 of them, that's about 6 square inches of area give or take. A patch 2"x3" if you will.
Just give it the flick, your eyes will thank you for it..
BTW
In the shot showing the horn fitment, what am I seeing the looks like a piece of cut off tube, and what is all the shit and corruption on the header..?
I tried to make the air outlet ~ same size as the air inlet.
That's the relay hanging on the header, sort of melted.
The new location is bolted to the top of one horn, painted flat black they are barely visible under the tank cheek, may not look pretty but that wasn't why I fitted them.
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Go tour.
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Some of you will probably recognise that slightly dodgy looking reprobate in the first pic with his helmet off...
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Pete
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^^^^^^
That is essentially what Brad does with his. Big tank bag, waterproof duffel on the back.
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Load her up & go!
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That was a great trip. Note to self. Do not try to drink beer with Roper.. :smiley: :boozing:
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- Dart Piranha screen as I like my helmet in clear air.
- Hepco Becker CBow mounts with soft bags. Easily removable so I can take them into the hotel at night.
- Kaoko Throttle lock.
- large duffle with built in rain cover.
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^ mjp, that looks like an ideal set-up on a Griso, & what I'd do if I wanted to carry more than what goes into the duffle bag.
As it is I mount rack and H&B 40 liters Junior hard bags on the roadster for that sort of travel. Ungainly but practical….
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Most excellent the way this thread has sprung back to life. lots of effort being spent making the Griso a touring bike. Must be a reason, and I
suspect it's the same reason I'm lurking: having a hot bike to ride once the tent is up....
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Most excellent the way this thread has sprung back to life. lots of effort being spent making the Griso a touring bike. Must be a reason, and I
suspect it's the same reason I'm lurking: having a hot bike to ride once the tent is up....
Different strokes for different folks and all that.. but for some, riding to a rally and back is all they want. Personally, I like to get away from central Indiana's straight roads and have a bike that is fun to ride once I get *to* the rally.
I like the way you're thinkin.. :smiley:
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The Griso is an amazing bike...and it looks like a piece of art.
Had a nice ride last weekend on the Griso with Tom on his Stelvio, we had perfect weather, even ran into a guy riding a red Stelvio so it was a trifecta of Guzzis, and then Saw another V7 on the way back home.
The Griso gets a lot of looks...and it’s a thrill to ride.
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