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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: jas67 on February 16, 2016, 07:33:13 PM
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I was back at the Lebanon Vespa/Royal Enfield dealer again today. They've got another Chrome C5 that wasn't in the showroom (which is very small) last time I was there. This one is a demo, and has some boot scuffs or something on the muffler. It has 347 miles on it.
Perazzimx14 bought the one I posted in the a previous post.
The price is listed at $200 HIGHER than the black one that Perazzimx14 bought. I inquired as to why, since this one is a demo, and has a few minor cosmetic flaws. Sales guy said someone screwed up and switched the price tags. I'm sure that this one could be had for $3,100, or maybe even less.
Someone please buy it so that I'm not tempted to.
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That's pretty...,
but I just put down payment on a 2016 black Duke 390.
I would love to have a R E, but after the Tenni, I better lay reaaaally low for a while.
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I have a 2014 just like it, a very good machine with no problems at more than 6K miles. Before buying it check to see if it comes with a warranty, the warranty is to the original purchaser only, not transferable.
Grant
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I have a 2014 just like it, a very good machine with no problems at more than 6K miles. Before buying it check to see if it comes with a warranty, the warranty is to the original purchaser only, not transferable.
Grant
Hi Grant. Long time, no see.
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Geeze, another one flirting with the "I can't leave it here" 2 number.
Todd.
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That's pretty...,
but I just put down payment on a 2016 black Duke 390.
I would love to have a R E, but after the Tenni, I better lay reaaaally low for a while.
Great! I'm glad you found one. I'm looking forward to the ride report.
Given that I just bought my V7 Special in November, I'm still lying low for a while.
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but I just put down payment on a 2016 black Duke 390.
drool/ .. how tall are you? I wanted one until I sat on it at the show.. too cramped for me .. the 690 Duke fit better, but not in my wallet..
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Jay,
The good news is I finally got the Enfield out the other day and was pleasantly surprised that it runs at 70 MPH (indicated) without being very buzzy as lots of other folks claim it is even when the ODO hits 60 or 65. I don't think I'd take the interstate for more than an exit or two but its nice to know it is possible for short durations. I think it will be an extremely fun leisurely back road explorer. While I don't think they are $6,795 (or even the new lower msrp) motorcycle they certainly are a $3,000 motorcycle.
Now I need to get 4 or 5 bikes sold so I can put more miles on fewer bikes.
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drool/ .. how tall are you? I wanted one until I sat on it at the show.. too cramped for me .. the 690 Duke fit better, but not in my wallet..
I'm 6', will be obviously cramped. Luckily it's for my daughter, so she no longer has to sit on the backseat, but can ride solo! She liked the V7 racer, but that was too much $$. We settled for baby-Duke. Should be good for few years....
That does not mean that I would not steal it for shorter rides...
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Jay,
The good news is I finally got the Enfield out the other day and was pleasantly surprised that it runs at 70 MPH (indicated) without being very buzzy as lots of other folks claim it is even when the ODO hits 60 or 65. I don't think I'd take the interstate for more than an exit or two but its nice to know it is possible for short durations. I think it will be an extremely fun leisurely back road explorer. While I don't think they are $6,795 (or even the new lower msrp) motorcycle they certainly are a $3,000 motorcycle.
Now I need to get 4 or 5 bikes sold so I can put more miles on fewer bikes.
I test rode one about two years ago, and came to the same conclusion. I resisted buying the one you bought, as well as the red one, because, I've got two V7's and a couple of airheads, plus a couple vintage Hondas as well. I've got the the vintage leisurely back road explorer role covered pretty well.
I know you'll enjoy it, and I'm happy that it found a home with you.
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I have to admit that if it was next year I'd probably be itching to jump on that red one... oh well, maybe it's a good thing that it is not next year...
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I have to admit that if it was next year I'd probably be itching to jump on that red one... oh well, maybe it's a good thing that it is not next year...
The temptation is great, esp. since it is only 10 miles from my house. If they still have it as they approach their Feb 26th final date, I may just make a low-ball offer. They sold the new (not demo) one for $3,100. This one should be able to be had for $2,800.
I've got two bikes up for sale right now (R100R, and Piaggio BV250). If one of them sold tomorrow, I'd be buying this one.
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leafman60,
It has been a long time, been busy straightening the curvy roads in south central Tennessee, on the Enfield. The roads are very curvy going up the mountain from my house. As a matter of fact last time I was out while taking a curve I saw a bike just like mine with the same tag number, after hitting the straight I realized the curve was so sharp I was looking at the rear of my own bike. Great roads!
Grant
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I don't know how much or if they'll budge on the price. I asked about knocking $100 off if I brought in cash and they declined.
They had apparently gotten the price tags switched between the two bikes. The red one is a demo, and was to have been priced at $3,100, and yours at $3,300. That might be why they wouldn't budge on yours. I'm thinking that if they meant to price the red one at $3,100, they should at least come down to that.
I certainly don't need another bike, nor should I even be thinking about buying one, but, as they get closer to the date of the owner change over, they might come down. The letter I got from them announcing this sale stated that all MUST go by Feb 26th. So, I'm thinking, I could show up on Feb 25 and offer a few hundred less , and get it.
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They had apparently gotten the price tags switched between the two bikes. The red one is a demo, and was to have been priced at $3,100, and yours at $3,300. That might be why they wouldn't budge on yours. I'm thinking that if they meant to price the red one at $3,100, they should at least come down to that.
I certainly don't need another bike, nor should I even be thinking about buying one, but, as they get closer to the date of the owner change over, they might come down. The letter I got from them announcing this sale stated that all MUST go by Feb 26th. So, I'm thinking, I could show up on Feb 25 and offer a few hundred less , and get it.
50% or more off MSRP is hard to resist. I know I couldn't. The last thing I wanted, needed or desired was another bike or for that matter the last 5 bikes, but the RE is to GREAT of a deal to pass up. If you don't buy it you'll kick yourself later. You owe it to yourself :whip2:
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50% or more off MSRP is hard to resist. I know I couldn't. The last thing I wanted, needed or desired was another bike or for that matter the last 5 bikes, but the RE is to GREAT of a deal to pass up. If you don't buy it you'll kick yourself later. You owe it to yourself :whip2:
You, sir, are an enabler.
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So, my wife got her motorcycle permit today.
Maybe I should buy the Red RE for her for Mothers Day :thewife:
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The Royal Enfield Forum for any questions or DIY information.
https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/
Grant
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The Royal Enfield Forum for any questions or DIY information.
https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/
Grant
Thanks -- I'll have a look before making a purchase decision.
It seems like a pretty active forum.
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
:thewife:
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Thanks -- I'll have a look before making a purchase decision.
It seems like a pretty active forum.
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
I don't need another motorcycle.....
:thewife:
I'm going to have to try that mantra too....
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I rode by the shop today, they still have it.
This next Friday is the "last day" of the sale.
I don't know what they're doing with any inventory left after Friday, or how "motivated" they are to reduce prices even further.
I'm still being tempted by this red & chrome beauty.
Kev -- should I buy it and hold it for you until next year?
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I signed up on classicmotorworks and like WG it seems to have a couple of folks who really know their stuff. It isn't as active as WG but there are certainly fewer questions. I assume to the slower evolution of the brand.
My impression (only over the last 7 years) is that all the Enfield sites were a lot more active before the EFI models came in, but once the EFI population increased significantly, there were just a lot less problems reported. Certainly the none of the people I know with EFI models seem to have issues of any significance.
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My impression (only over the last 7 years) is that all the Enfield sites were a lot more active before the EFI models came in, but once the EFI population increased significantly, there were just a lot less problems reported. Certainly the none of the people I know with EFI models seem to have issues of any significance.
This is good to know! :thumb:
http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/motorcycles/royal-enfield-unit-constructionuce-engine-royal-enfield-cast-iron-ci-engine-34402/ (http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/motorcycles/royal-enfield-unit-constructionuce-engine-royal-enfield-cast-iron-ci-engine-34402/)
(http://www.indiancarsbikes.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Royal-Enfield-Unit-Construction-UCE-Engine-Advantages-1.png?3a87fd)
The new EFI is a much more modern engine than the previous RE engines, which, are basically 1950's designs.
Look at the oil flow info on the above chart! That right there would explain the longevity of the EFI engine vs. the earlier ones. The hydraulic tappets are nice to have too. It is also a unit-construction engine, where the previous ones were pre-unit. This helps give it better fuel economy and rear wheel power due to lower drive line losses.
The performance and balance of the EFI engine is much better too.
Perazzimx14 who just bought the black one offers this in answer to my inquiry about a friend of his who had a Royel Enfield, which was likely had the AVL engine.
I do not know either answer. I do know that he said the bike was good to 55mph and at 56 it vibrated like crazy so I am thinking it might have been a Lean Burn/AVL model and not the more modern UCE.
He's had his up to 70, and said that it doesn't have any nasty vibration.
I test rode a 2012 a couple years back, and also had it up to 70, and didn't observe any nasty vibration.
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My local shop has carried Royal Enfield for the past several years, so I've been lucky enough to ride many Royal Enfields. There are differences in the levels of vibrations between different bikes. Every now and then there is one that definitely vibrates more than the others. However, I wouldn't say that all the models before the UCE were the vibrators. I've ridden a 2015 that was a vibrator. My 2007 Iron Barrel version can cruise at 60-65mph very comfortably with no problems. I've never gone 70 mph on it though. 65 is its top speed.
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A quick Royal Enfield education would be appreciated. I guess I didn't know there was an intermediate engine between the old cast iron lumps with separate transmissions and the new UCE engine. What is/was the AVL engine, and how long was it in use?
Thanks,
Bob
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A quick Royal Enfield education would be appreciated. I guess I didn't know there was an intermediate engine between the old cast iron lumps with separate transmissions and the new UCE engine. What is/was the AVL engine, and how long was it in use?
Thanks,
Bob
Yes, the AVL was similar to the iron lump, but, had alloy cylinder and head. The AVL motor was used betwen 1997 and 2007.
Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Enfield_Bullet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Enfield_Bullet)
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Over here at the other side of the world the only AVL we got was the Bullet Electra 500 from 2006 to 2008. They are a bit faster than the iron barrels, could do motorways, reluctantly, and if nursed, but at home on the A, B & C roads with a continually variable throttle. One of the weaknesses, was the micron thin hardening on the crank (which could be removed easily by sitting on the motorway at constant full speed. There are a couple of fixes). They've good steel con rods with decent bearings top & bottom, but spoilt it by going light on the crank.
Some Enfields vibrate, some not much. And it might also depend upon what you are used to riding. Just because the mirrors on the end of their stalks are a little blurry, that's not enough to call it vibration. One of the sources of vibration is the flywheel, some of which have been known to be a little off out of the factory. If yours vibrates more than another, and you've tightened everything, the flywheel would be worth out checking next time you have it apart. There's several other things of course.
I've seen the UCE clutch - seven plates & a thing of beauty & wonder compared to Enfield's previous efforts.
They changed a lot of things with the UCE, but they didn't change the tail light mounting - a piece of light metal strapping, bent & lightly tack welded, secured to the mudguard with A nut & bolt. The weld on one side might let go, the strapping cracks at the bolt & the tail light with the indicators & number plate is left behind without notice. It is likely to happen sooner or later, as Enfields are just so much fun on dirt roads. Worth keeping an eye on.
Here's a photo of the AVL Electra
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n538/hatihati/NewElectra04.jpg)