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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: thebaileylee on February 28, 2016, 01:12:21 PM
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its a minor insignificant point. but do you wave to scooters when you ride? when i'm on the goose i wave to all the bikers, but rarely if ever the scooter people. but yesterday it was pleasant here and i took my 150cc honda scoot for a ride. and it was a hit, the post office, the convenience store, the grocery story. and i got two waves from harley guys. one with apes. of course i think i was about 2/5 overall. of course its possible they think im a chick. i wear a full face helmet..its hard to look manly on the scooter. its the riding position. :boozing:
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Here, we tend to nod more than wave.
Not a straight up and down nod, but more of a lopsided nod as if you are winking.
Geese, you made me realize there are advantages to driving on the right - it's more sociable. :thumb:
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Everyone on 2 wheels gets a noddie
I'm even known to acknowledge car drivers when they successfully don't kill me :wink:
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I wave at everybody: motorcycle riders, scooterists, bicyclists, farmers, housewives, people checking their mail, police officers, mail carriers, little kids, etc. Most of them even wave back...
However, (sadly) I don't seem to get the love when I ride the Piaggio...not even from scooterists.
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Never much cared about who waves at me or not. I just like to ride, whether on my scooter or motorcycle.
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Hey, nothing wrong with a quality-built good handling, reliable scooter. But scooter riders normally don't see motorcyclists waving to them. The shock might cause an accident!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/goose%20scooter_zps0hbdykbq.jpg)
This goose likes the red ones best!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/roman%20scooters_zpsi0xu6c8i.jpg)
The orginal Romer was a Vespa...er. :rolleyes:
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I acknowledge every one on 2 or 3 wheels. The wife really laughs when I forget I'm in the car & lift a couple fingers off the wheel @ an oncoming bike. :embarrassed:
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I also wave at everyone, scooters included. Bicyclists on expensive road bikes tend not to wave back and HD riders also sometimes don't return the courtesy but most people do return the wave. People on riding mowers, tractors etc. almost always wave. A surprising number of women out in their lawns or walking return a wave. I enjoy doing it for some reason.
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Bicyclists on expensive road bikes tend not to wave back
Funny, when I'm on my expensive road bike and wave at motorcycle riders, I'd say only about half of them wave back. I don't remember ever having a motorcycle rider wave at me while I was on the expensive road bike. Go figure.
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When on my Vespa it is normally suite a surprise to recieve a wave, so I'm usually late waving back! A large percentage of riders around here are posers who would rather get kicked in the nuts than wave at "scooter queers".
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Whether I am riding my motorcycle or my scooter, I give the two-fingered wave to everyone I see riding a two-wheeled motorized vehicle. Almost all of them wave back, regardless of what I am riding, and regardless of what they are riding.
As for bicyclists, I wave to ordinary people riding ordinary bicycles, but I don't bother waving to professional bicycle racers--you know, the ones with their team sponsors emblazoned on their jerseys. They are usually too busy, going to fast, and their pants are all wrong.
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Two finger wave? Pointing at the ground? Never done that. Thought it was weird. Still do.
I wave like I'm saying "Hi!"
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I generally wave to all two wheelers. Don't ride in towns or cities much anymore so I do not meet many scooter folk. I make an extra effort to wave at young scooter riders as it may be their first riding experience and I want it to be as positive as possible for them.
Waving is also a fun way to break the boredom on straight stretches and see what the responses will be. I have noticed that almost all H-D solo riders will wave or return one, somewhat less when they are in groups. GW riders are about 50/50. When on my T-3 I get few BMW rider waves but almost everyone else does but when on the Norge I get a much higher percentage of BMW rider waves. I think until it is to late they think I am another BMW rider.
GliderJohn
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I can't help but give a sign of some sort or other to riders of most anything if there is any dolce vita goin' on with them. Posture, enthusiastic riding, giddy waves and even simple finger waves... the pleasant kind - they all get me and get something from me regardless of the ride.
Todd.
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I wave to everyone on two wheels. Nod to bicyclists. Most of us around the Puget Sound who ride all year, like to encourage and acknowledge the other crazies riding in the rain. Even Harley folks wave back, until summer time and then lots don't. I wave because that's me, not so they'll wave back. When I started riding in the 60's there weren't many of us around so we always acknowledged each other.
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no one likes bicyclists. i think its the pants. :tongue:
Huh... I never thought to try riding without pants. Maybe I'll get more waves that way.
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This is a great thread. I ride a bicycle, soon I hope a motorcycle too - NOT both at once! - and I had not thought to wave from a bicycle to a motorcyclist or vice in a Versys, That is a great idea. I have noticed that drop bar bicycle riders rarely wave back at me. Too bad for them I suppose.
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Absolutely give the scooteristi a greeting. Sometimes they seem surprised, other times they seem preoccupied. I've given up greeting bicyclists - I don't think they view us as comrades.
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I wouldn't be offended if the whole waving, nodding, sticking a leg out thing went away :thumb:.
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Most riders of any motorized bike would return waves to me when I was riding my Honda reflex scooter.
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Bicyclists and I don't wave to each other. I only wave to scooterists if they wave first as many aren't even aware of the 'wave'. When I'm on my MCs I will wave to anyone who waves 1st. When on my maxi-scooters I wave to the maxi-scooters and sometimes they wave back. I have an Aprilia 500GT scooter that from the front doesn't even look like a scooter and many HD riders wave to me 'cause they know it's not a Jap. bike. It looks like a euro touring bike On my MPs I wave to other trikes and usually get a wave back.
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I give them all the Shaka.
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Oh no! I have RA and cannot return that! At least without screaming a lot.
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what can they possibly be preoccupied with? that there is no clutch ??
Going fast enough to be killed in a one vehicle accident while not going fast enough to avoid 2 vehicle accidents.
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I give them all the Shaka.
Yeah but currently, you have the time to motor one-handed Brah!
Todd.
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tis not speed my brother. its anticipation.
True to a point. You can anticipate all you want, if you don't have the horses to put distance between you and the point of contact, it's bad bad bad. Imagine the anticipation needed to be a pedestrian navigating down a highway lane.
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Interestingly do you know who I get the most waves from when I'm riding my Vespa? Harley dudes! Go figure. BMW riders never wave at my Vespa. But wait, BMW riders never wave at my Guzzis either. Guess they are non-discriminating pricks.
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its a minor insignificant point. but do you wave to scooters when you ride? when i'm on the goose i wave to all the bikers, but rarely if ever the scooter people. but yesterday it was pleasant here and i took my 150cc honda scoot for a ride. and it was a hit, the post office, the convenience store, the grocery story. and i got two waves from harley guys. one with apes. of course i think i was about 2/5 overall. of course its possible they think im a chick. i wear a full face helmet..its hard to look manly on the scooter. its the riding position. :boozing:
I have to all motorcycles, trikes, and scooters, except for those with ape Hangers, as they rarely wave back. I guess it is hard enough to control a bike with apes with both hands, much less one.
I don't seem to get any less waves riding our Vespa than any of my motorcycles.
Interestingly do you know who I get the most waves from when I'm riding my Vespa? Harley dudes! Go figure.
Our Vespa is as much a conversation starter as my V7's. It starts way more conversations from people not on motorcycles or scooters, but, also many on motorcycles and scooters, even Harleys. All have been positive conversations. Once, I was loading groceries into the top case and under the seat of the Vespa, a Harley pulled up, and said, "I need to get one of them, for grocery & beer runs!"
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I wave to all. It pleases me.
Even better if I get a wave or an acknowledging nod back!!
On my mountain bike I wave at the leaves, it's hit or miss weather they wave back..
Nature is a fickle whore.
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Not a wave but. . .
. . . I stopped in to a convenience store in Cordes, which is not far from my home while riding my Honda Reflex. As I pulled into a space I noticed a Sportster and as I was removing helmet and jacket to enter the store the rider came out. He gazed at me and my bike with a look that I could not really identify, but which was obviously one of some degree of dismissal. So I spoke to him, saying that I was glad to get off the road; that nearly all of my near four hundred miles had been desert and that it was around one hundred and ten out there. He looked at the luggage on the scooter's rack and then looked back at me. Now that look I understood. Respect. Scooter equality.
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(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/nyer_vesparados_zps061ixbix.gif)
However, you shouldn't wave to Scooter badasses.
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(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/nyer_vesparados_zps061ixbix.gif)
However, you shouldn't wave to Scooter badasses.
Love it!
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I wave to people riding horses and sulkies (yes, I spend time in an area where one encounters sulkies on public roads).
I also often wish good day while passing fellow pedestrians on the street.
This motorbike wavy thing reminds me of something that Groucho Marx once said.
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I honestly think that my love of motorcycles originated as a love of bicycles. Even at my advanced age, I split my time just about evenly between the two...
Oh...and if you spend more than 30 minutes on a bicycle, the funny pants start to make sense. The padding and the aerodynamics really make a difference on a long ride.
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I honestly think that my love of motorcycles originated as a love of bicycles. Even at my advanced age, I split my time just about evenly between the two...
Oh...and if you spend more than 30 minutes on a bicycle, the funny pants start to make sense. The padding and the aerodynamics really make a difference on a long ride.
Ahh youth. I'd go to school and suffer for being autistically different. Home was no safe refuge with dad ready to beat sis and I to bloodiness at any moment. My bicycle! My bicycle was two wheeled freedom. With that great tool of liberty I found that real safety is not about walls and locks, but about the ability to simply not be there when the hammer might fall. Bicycles are powerful magic to me, and yes the motorcycle is an extension of that.
I recall a phrase from a motorcycle magazine of so long ago. "...blow the cobwebs out of my mind. . ." Yeah. Two wheels is special.
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Oh...and if you spend more than 30 minutes on a bicycle, the funny pants start to make sense. The padding and the aerodynamics really make a difference on a long ride.
Sit on a wrinkle for 20 or 30 miles and you'll wish you didn't have to. Do it for 100 and you might be bleeding.
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Sit on a wrinkle for 20 or 30 miles and you'll wish you didn't have to. Do it for 100 and you might be bleeding.
A comfy saddle is a must. My current bike is fitted with a Brooks Flyer (Essentially classic B 17 leather with width adjustment and very stiff springs to protect my back.) atop a micro adjust carbon fibre post. Works well.
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Absoluetely. Luckily my rear end has always done well with a decent leather covered nylon saddle, so I don't have to have a 4 pound Brooks! But needling aside ( :laugh:) I've used Fizik saddles for 15 years or so, and found them very comfortable. Their customer service is excellent, too.
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Absoluetely. Luckily my rear end has always done well with a decent leather covered nylon saddle, so I don't have to have a 4 pound Brooks! But needling aside ( :laugh:) I've used Fizik saddles for 15 years or so, and found them very comfortable. Their customer service is excellent, too.
yeah, I will admit that my Brooks weighs as much as a good carbon bike.
That's okay. Bike is a medium range hybrid - Giant Escape 2W - set up for touring and grocery getting. No way could I run the sort of speed I did 40 years ago anyway.
I've heard great things about Fizik.
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Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.
In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.
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Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.
In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.
Want to know a thing that impresses me about Guzzi riders? Ya'all still ride in the rain. That is getting rare nowadays.
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Want to know a thing that impresses me about Guzzi riders? Ya'all still ride in the rain. That is getting rare nowadays.
We had 84 inches of rain last year , I rode on more rainy days than non rainy days . In fact , over the last 4 years I've made probably 30 trips between home and NW Arkansas , seems like it has rained , or been cold , on at least half those trips . Doesn't everyone do this ?
Dusty
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We had 84 inches of rain last year , I rode on more rainy days than non rainy days . In fact , over the last 4 years I've made probably 30 trips between home and NW Arkansas , seems like it has rained , or been cold , on at least half those trips . Doesn't everyone do this ?
Dusty
There is a difference between one who owns a motorcycle and a motorcyclist. Motorcyclists go out in the rain. I think many people now just own bikes. Motorcyclists are better.
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I used to commute my Norton between Houston and Beaumont. What I learned was that any given time, it is raining somewhere on that stretch of I-10...
Also, I use Brooks B17 saddles on all my bicycles. Weight be damned; those are the most comfy seats made for a long ride. I also bring along a spoke tool, a chain tool, a combo wrench, a full-length pump, and a spare tube...
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Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.
In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.
Same deal in the real cold. Friendlier, if stiffer, crew.
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I don't ride in the rain unless I have to. At least now I have the proper rain gear. :grin:
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I don't ride in the rain unless I have to. At least now I have the proper rain gear. :grin:
It can be cold and wet, especially if one forgets the rain gear!
Fortunately, I do have a car, so if it is really bad outside, or if I just don't feel like it, I can drive my sled. Still, I usually prefer riding, even in rain.
This morning, it rained a little, and the temperature was about 45 degrees. I suited up and rode to work, happy to be on my Norge! Too bad there were no other motorcyclists or scooter riders at 6 am to wave at.
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Tomorrow, I will be riding many miles in the rain. I plan to wave at everyone else who is riding a motorized two-wheeled vehicle in the rain like me. I imagine all of them will wave back.
In nice weather, it is different. Nothing against fair-weather riders, but foul-weather riders really notice one another. There seems to be more of a spirit of camaraderie.
Same goes for cold weather. I did a couple of sub-freezing rides this winter. Every rider returned the wave, all three of them. :grin:
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A comfy saddle is a must. My current bike is fitted with a Brooks Flyer (Essentially classic B 17 leather with width adjustment and very stiff springs to protect my back.) atop a micro adjust carbon fibre post. Works well.
Brooks Flyer?? Don't you have to wear wool shorts & chamois with a flyer?
Geez, I gave those up many decades ago.
Sella San Marco Regal all the way for me. I even have one with springs for my fixed cog!
As to waving to Scooters, every time. My youngest rides a Scarabeo 150 that we resurrected, was stolen and broken, then fixed and runs great. I'd be careful what I'd call him @ 195lbs of muscle he'd cause a lot of damage if he got mad
Now when the V50 intake gaskets come in he'll have a better ride. that he won't take anywhere it can be "pinched"
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no one likes bicyclists. i think its the pants. :tongue:
I take exclusion, my other two-wheeled vehicle is a racing bike, and I wear funny shorts when I ride it.
My wave is sort of an index finger pointing outward rather than down. I usually wave to other motorcyclists unless I'm in the middle of doing something that takes both hands; then, I might nod instead. I also wave to scooters, bicycles, and neighbors walking their dogs, especially when they're young, slim, and blonde (the walkers, not the dogs). The scooter riders are often young and impressionable, and they smile with pride when a "real" motorcyclist waves at them. However, I'm ambivalent about waving to trikes. I'll certainly wave if they do first, but initiate a wave? Like I said, I'm ambivalent about trikes.
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I typically wave (first) at all types of bikes when on either of my Vespas or Guzzi. Most wave back about equally around here regardless of which I'm riding. Actually, my heavily patina-ed Vespa P200e gets a lot of respect wherever I go.
(http://www.scooteropolis.com/img/gallery/gallery_02.jpg)
.... I just wanted an excuse to post a pic of my Vespa :grin:
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^ Nice!
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P200e! Got my respect, a bit of lust too.
B 17, I'm old skool for sure.
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I wave at just about everybody on two wheels, two fingers down as in rubber side down😎
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I just went bicycling, up to Page Springs. Waved or nodded twice. Each HD rider waved or nodded back.
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I'm a wool shorts and jersey man meself and I like a Brooks but prefer the Selle on the Serotta.
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I used to ride a 125 Vino (11hp). Most cagers want YOU behind them quickly as possible. :boozing:
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I wave at just about everybody on two wheels, two fingers down as in rubber side down😎
Ah, so that's what it's supposed to signify. I thought that is an Italian version of the one-finger salute.
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Forty five years ago when I first started long distance road riding there were not a lot of bikes out there doing the same thing. To see another bike loaded down with gear out on the road didn't happen often. The wave was an acknowledgement that you were brothers in arms doing something many others didn't. It was something shared because we were on the same trip. Didn't matter what you were riding. The general public thought you were nuts and/or some kind of mad dog rebel they saw in bad biker movies. Over the years all of that has changed. Five star hotels have motorcycle parking now. Bikes are so common people rarely notice them. The wave is still with us and to me as an old biker it still means the same thing. So I wave to any and all two wheelers on the road. Even bicyclists. We are all out sharing the feel and risks that make two wheel travel our addiction. After all only bikers truly understand why dogs love to stick their heads out the window. :thumb:
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Two finger wave? Pointing at the ground? Never done that. Thought it was weird. Still do.
I wave like I'm saying "Hi!"
It's a Harley thing. One finger for every rebuild I believe. Average is two I suppose...
/s
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Around here the sport bike guys use the two fingered wave too. I thought it was a sort of peace sign wave, but after the posts above, I figure it might mean "keep both wheels on the pavement."