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Title: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: double.d on March 02, 2016, 01:35:31 AM
Meh, i have a road trip coming up and with the bike loaded i won't be able to lift the bike on to the centre stand so i have to fit a side stand. I don't have the original but am told that an example from a GPX 600/750 will fit.

Could someone please post a photo of their OEM side stand so i can see how it bolts on.

Thanks.
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: kfz on March 02, 2016, 04:40:40 AM
Same as other Toni's far as I know.  the plate fixes to the gearbox mount and centre stand mount.



To be honest I took mine off the LM cos it was never a happy bunny.  I think this was cos the forks arnt in the right position in the yokes. If I remember right then they should be about 1" poking thru.   mine an 18" front wheel.  dont know if thats the trouble either???

 Would I se it with a loaded bike, no way!

Might jst be a whole lot easier to get what I call an  american style long sidestand that attaches to the font engine bolt.  Lot easier to use and substantially more stable.


Kev
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: guzzisteve on March 02, 2016, 07:19:07 AM
Boxerworks here in GA makes a Browns sidestand set up for the Guzzi, real nice stuff.

http://www.boxerworks-service.com/index.html
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: MikeW on March 02, 2016, 03:28:22 PM
The side stand on my Le Mans 1000 is around 8 1/2 to 9 inches long and is mounted in front of the center stand.

I can't say I like using it though, the bike feels very precarious. It's also an auto retract design.

Mike

(http://www.assemble-edit.com.au/temp/side_stand.jpg)
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: Bill929 on March 02, 2016, 03:42:59 PM
The side stand on my LM 1000 was horrible.  I wouldn't trust it to hold up the bike if I was not standing right beside it - even then I was cautious.  It's possible an after market stand might be fitted, but I would stay clear of the OEM stand. 
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: bigbikerrick on March 02, 2016, 04:05:09 PM
The browns stand from boxerworks is the best. I just put one on my 85 Le Mans and love it! The stock, self retracting stand was a dangerous piece of junk.
Rick.
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: double.d on March 02, 2016, 11:11:30 PM
The browns stand from boxerworks is the best. I just put one on my 85 Le Mans and love it! The stock, self retracting stand was a dangerous piece of junk.
Rick.

Can you post a photo please.

No price listed on the website, what am I looking at?
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: kfz on March 03, 2016, 12:41:17 AM

(http://www.assemble-edit.com.au/temp/side_stand.jpg)

Wow see someone has made the painful mistake of trying to get it on the prop stand before lifting the side stand.  Hope he was wearing boots.  Actually its just flipped down, but anotherreason why the stock stand is a bad.

Kev



Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 03, 2016, 08:53:07 AM
Can you post a photo please.

No price listed on the website, what am I looking at?

$275 + shipping. Just my opinion: for that kind of money, the quality could be better. The one I bought for a customer's SP had a poorly done weld and bare steel bracket. A little paint (or zinc-plating like the Brown-made part of the stand) doesn't cost all that much.
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: Mark West on March 03, 2016, 10:17:29 AM
I almost never used the sidestand on my LM1000 because it felt so precarious; like you couldn't walk away from it for fear it would fall over. With the bike loaded, it was even worse.

I had it loaded up pretty good a few times and was always able to use the centerstand.
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: Orange Guzzi on March 03, 2016, 10:25:59 AM
The side stand on my Le Mans 1000 is around 8 1/2 to 9 inches long and is mounted in front of the center stand.

I can't say I like using it though, the bike feels very precarious. It's also an auto retract design.

Mike

(http://www.assemble-edit.com.au/temp/side_stand.jpg)

I have a version of this on my bike.  It does not have the slight bend on the upper part of the tube where it pivots.  I have it mounted to the front, left motor mount bolt.  It is on a 2003 Aluminum which is longer and taller.  I added a 1 inch thick aluminum block to the bottom pad for additional height. It work and is stable. Self retracting is an attention getter though. 
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: charlie b on March 03, 2016, 12:49:44 PM
I didn't trust the original forward mount version either.  Tried the center mount and liked it a bit better....but....I did bent the braket on mine to give it a little more lean.  Still not great.

So, I took the forward mount version, cut it.  Welded on the end of a HD stand, reinforced the weld (cause I am not that great a welder), then put a reinforcing tap on the frame portion.  Has worked great.  I will try and find a picture.

Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: double.d on March 03, 2016, 08:59:47 PM
$275 + shipping. Just my opinion: for that kind of money, the quality could be better. The one I bought for a customer's SP had a poorly done weld and bare steel bracket. A little paint (or zinc-plating like the Brown-made part of the stand) doesn't cost all that much.

Thanks, i got an email from them. At $275 USD (about $875 AUD) plus postage i think i'll just take the German Starship on the road trip.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/doubled86_20061/2F651288-B4B5-41E9-BF33-C6B0F854148C-970-00000193E2422F63_zpsc8623927.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/doubled86_20061/media/2F651288-B4B5-41E9-BF33-C6B0F854148C-970-00000193E2422F63_zpsc8623927.jpg.html)
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: kfz on March 04, 2016, 03:19:23 AM
Thanks, i got an email from them. At $275 USD (about $875 AUD) plus postage i think i'll just take the German Starship on the road trip.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j322/doubled86_20061/2F651288-B4B5-41E9-BF33-C6B0F854148C-970-00000193E2422F63_zpsc8623927.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/doubled86_20061/media/2F651288-B4B5-41E9-BF33-C6B0F854148C-970-00000193E2422F63_zpsc8623927.jpg.html)

How much???   Do you get free bike?

UK Guzzibits do 2 aftermarkets stands for.  I'd give Ed a call ask him which one he likes best

http://www.gutsibits.co.uk/pr/TheShop/index.php?q=sidestand&f=d&Model=0&search=SEARCH

If your going to be doing a lot of touring and on soft ground I still think a US style stand is better .My old man has one on his 1000s and it works great.   Guzzibits also have cali3 stands in for £50.  Sure it can be made to fit.
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: Pancake on March 04, 2016, 01:57:09 PM
My original side stand was crap, precarious and then one day (one of the few times I used it) it bent, dropping the bike. Fourteen years later I got myself a police style stand with the bracket mounted on the lower frame rail from a Cali model and I couldn't be happier. It is super strong, stable and it locks into place when down under the weight of the bike, so even if it is pointing downhill it can't roll off it's stand. A brilliant piece of design. Pinched off Harley I believe.
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: double.d on March 06, 2016, 03:21:38 AM
 I think i'll go an alternate route. i have fold up foot peg so ill get someone to fabricate a bracket for it and fix it to the frame behind the side cover  :undecided:
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: Cam3512 on March 06, 2016, 06:17:56 AM
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=62698.0

Here's a thread with info and photos on the Brown sidestand for a Tonti Guzzi from Boxerworks.  Photos shown are the prototype installed on my V7 Sport.  The shape of the mounting plate has changed slightly.  I've put two of these on bikes with no issues.  The mounting plate won't be visible, so I just clear coated mine before installation.  YES it's expensive, but so are the parts on my bike.  Think of it as insurance.
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: canuck750 on March 06, 2016, 10:07:41 AM
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=62698.0

Here's a thread with info and photos on the Brown sidestand for a Tonti Guzzi from Boxerworks.  Photos shown are the prototype installed on my V7 Sport.  The shape of the mounting plate has changed slightly.  I've put two of these on bikes with no issues.  The mounting plate won't be visible, so I just clear coated mine before installation.  YES it's expensive, but so are the parts on my bike.  Think of it as insurance.

And it is very easy to use, looks good and like Cam says it's cheap insurance!
Title: Re: LeMans 1000 Sidestand Setup.
Post by: redrider90 on March 06, 2016, 10:49:28 AM
The side stand on my Le Mans 1000 is around 8 1/2 to 9 inches long and is mounted in front of the center stand.

I can't say I like using it though, the bike feels very precarious. It's also an auto retract design.

Mike

(http://www.assemble-edit.com.au/temp/side_stand.jpg)


this is the same side stand that was used on my 90 Mille. Over the years after many trips loaded to the max the anchor plate the side stand slowly began to bend at the frame. I quite using the side stand when loaded for trips and opted to heave ho with the center stand every time I stopped even for gas as it was slowly getting worse. I used the side stand only when not loaded.  When I replaced the stock exhaust with the stainless Agostini's it became a moot point as the Agositinis's just took up enough space and I could not replace the side stand. It was junk anyhow so I left it off. I would love some day to put on the the Brown or another aftermarket side stand that really held the bike up correctly and didn't fail.