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Title: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Clancy on March 03, 2016, 04:49:12 AM
Went for a ride the other day and tried out a new camera I was given.
It's a fairly cheap camera, so plenty of faults show up when you stick it on a vibrating machine, but it works well enough to show the fun I have just down the road from home.
And yes, it's also good enough to show up all my incorrect line, gear and braking choices  :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odUfb-tIw5k&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odUfb-tIw5k&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: pete roper on March 03, 2016, 05:01:27 AM
That's not the Wee Jasper road. Is that the one from Belconnen down towards Stromlo? Doesn't look right to me but knowing your back yard it would make sense.

Anyway, it's not Charnwood as their aren't ant burnt out car bodies or fighting junkies! :evil:

Pete
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Clancy on March 03, 2016, 05:22:34 AM
It is heading back from Wee Jasper, where you wind back down to the Mountain Creek Road turn off.
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Tom on March 03, 2016, 01:50:24 PM
Looks like one of the rides over here. :thumb:
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: cruzziguzzi on March 03, 2016, 04:39:37 PM
It always amazes me how these "gopro" cameras capture such great sound.

Listening to the video with out watching it, one might think it was from the soundtrack of a 70's European movie. Remember those? The sound engineers were such wonks that you'd even get a hell of a wonderful intake draft some of the time... one of my favorite internal combustion sounds, that.

Cool vid. Do you have to go out of your way to record that well and not get too much wind noise?


Todd.
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Clancy on March 03, 2016, 05:24:22 PM
It's a cylinder type camera with the mic & switches behind the end cap.
Originally the mic was 'maxing' out horribly so I stuffed some HVAC insulation foam in the end cap.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HD-1080P-Waterproof-Helmet-Camera-Sports-Video-Car-Diving-DV-Camcorder-/172054239849?hash=item280f3b5a69:g:WHwAAOSwKtlWjmhL (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HD-1080P-Waterproof-Helmet-Camera-Sports-Video-Car-Diving-DV-Camcorder-/172054239849?hash=item280f3b5a69:g:WHwAAOSwKtlWjmhL)
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: giusto on March 03, 2016, 05:38:04 PM
Clancy Great video! Looks like you were having some good fun. I just had to look it up....Wee Jasper... population 275

and not much traffic to contend with!  Cheers
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: pete roper on March 03, 2016, 05:40:54 PM
It is heading back from Wee Jasper, where you wind back down to the Mountain Creek Road turn off.

Ahh, gotcha. I was thinking about the other way. Usually I start at the Stromlo end and go to WJ then head back to Yass. Mountain Creek makes sense. How do the forks handle it? I know you shitcanned the original horror shocks on the back so the next weak link is probably the forks. That road is fairly chopped up, I got bounced off the seat a couple of times last time I went up there on the Griso and I wasn't trying hard, I don't know the road well enough.

Pete
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Clancy on March 03, 2016, 06:28:05 PM
Giusto, that population listed for Wee Jasper must take in a wide berth of the surrounding 'countryside'.
Either that, or they're missing a decimal place, as I think the population of the township would be closer to 27!

Wee Jasper is very popular for camping, and with a connecting dirt road up to Tumut in the mountains, the road is often busy with 4WDs towing Caravans.
There's even a school bus that goes out there.
Can make for some interesting moments on some of the hairpins....and explains why I never stray from the left.

But get it to yourself and it's "V7 Heaven"  :bike-037:
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: giusto on March 03, 2016, 06:45:41 PM
Giusto, that population listed for Wee Jasper must take in a wide berth of the surrounding 'countryside'.
Either that, or they're missing a decimal place, as I think the population of the township would be closer to 27!

Wee Jasper is very popular for camping, and with a connecting dirt road up to Tumut in the mountains, the road is often busy with 4WDs towing Caravans.
There's even a school bus that goes out there.
Can make for some interesting moments on some of the hairpins....and explains why I never stray from the left.

But get it to yourself and it's "V7 Heaven"  :bike-037:


Clancy,
Yeah I just looked it up on Google and Wikipedia.
The V sounds great. I am jonesn' to ride....roads still covered with snow.

I'll be in Hamilton NZ in June :)
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: rob-mg on March 03, 2016, 07:30:22 PM
It always amazes me how these "gopro" cameras capture such great sound.

It would be nice if that was true, but it isn't. Cameras in general, and certainly GoPro cameras, have really poor microphone (analogue) to digital converters, and the built-in mics are really poor quality.

Every single motorcycle vlogger of significance records sound with an independent mic to an independent recorder (often a Zoom) precisely because recording sound to a GoPro camera, even with a mic separate from the GoPro, results in garbage sound.

Some are now playing with Sena, but the trade off is tinny sound and noise reduction that kills the sound of the bike.



Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: cruzziguzzi on March 03, 2016, 07:32:54 PM
It would be nice if that was true, but it isn't. Cameras in general, and certainly GoPro cameras, have really poor microphone (analogue) to digital converters, and the built-in mics are really poor quality.

Every single motorcycle vlogger of significance records sound with an independent mic to an independent recorder (often a Zoom) precisely because recording sound to a GoPro camera, even with a mic separate from the GoPro, results in garbage sound.

Aha - always curious about that, thanks.

Todd.
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: rob-mg on March 03, 2016, 07:51:44 PM
Aha - always curious about that, thanks.

Todd.

The sound on those 70s movies might be better than you recall, except for productions that have been degraded.

Any serious film, including documentaries, was recorded with Nagra tape recorders. These were of superb quality, way beyond what any camera, and certainly any "action camera", can record today. Also, a lot of those sounds, at least outside documentaries, would have been recorded in controlled conditions and added later to the cinematography.

It may not intetest him in the least, especially if he's just enjoying himself, but the original poster would see a huge improvement in his sound if he purchased a Zoom recorder and a decent mic.

Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Clancy on March 04, 2016, 02:05:46 AM
I've got a Roland Edirol, but I'm not really worried about sound/vision quality.
I was just having a bit of fun and thought I'd share it.😄
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: paulbr on March 04, 2016, 02:58:54 AM
I was just having a bit of fun and thought I'd share it.😄

Thanks for sharing it. You have me looking at the maps thinking about having a look up there once the temperatures drop into the low 30s.

I'm also interested in how the forks handled it, I've also got ikons and stock forks on my V7.
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Jose Mendez on March 04, 2016, 01:06:15 PM
I think it's great!  A lot better than many of the cycle footage I've seen in "B" Movies.
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: malik on March 04, 2016, 01:42:09 PM
A great New Year's Day (by the camera's date) present to yourself. Try the Bonang Hwy for your birthday. Recommended. Not too far out of your way if you happen to be heading for, say, Melbourne for some reason (to catch the ferry to Tassie, perhaps). Well done.

Mal
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: Clancy on March 04, 2016, 02:12:14 PM
I'm quite happy with the ikons & stock forks.
There's no doubt that there's still plenty of room for improvement, but this setup copes with everything I do with the bike well enough (at least for now).

On back roads like that one, the forks do get a bit twitchy, but I've never felt like I'm going to lose it.
But I've never had top grade forks, so this just feels like normal riding to me.
On a lot of the bends the surface has gotten fairly chewed up so there's also that to take into account.
(That's why I slow down so much for some corners, like the very first right in the video).

Don't have any issues at the rear.

Oh, and the date stamp is wrong. It keeps resetting.
That ride was 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: V7-II in my backyard
Post by: organfixsing on March 10, 2016, 04:47:29 AM
G'day Clancy (my surname as well).
I put IKONS on the back of my V7II as well, but, I was most disappointed, that is until I put IKON progressive springs on the forks. The improvement was quite noticeable.
The IKON progressive springs are quite a bit longer than the originals,so, I had to make new pre-load spacers to suit. I think they were 80mm of polythene stand pipe.
I used 5W Penrite fork oil.
Suspension is not perfect, but, a hell of a lot better than the factory version.

Cheers

Brian