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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: scura283 on March 08, 2016, 05:17:36 PM
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http://blog.motorcycle.com/2016/03/08/manufacturers/triumph/2016-triumph-thruxton-thruxton-r-specs-released/
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Rode to my local Triumph dealer about a week ago and talked to sales guy. I was hoping to see a basic Bonnie on the floor: nope, gone and sold every one--more coming in May. He said they were allotted 5 Thruxtons for 2016 and four were sold, and he would be happy to take a deposit. Told him I had my V7R and he asked to look: gushed over my bike and told me twice if I ever wanted to sell it, call him. British guy, not sure what he is doing in Houston.
Anyway: the new Bonnies are selling fast. Otherwise their sales floor was jammed with bikes. Dead oil industry is causing financial ripples in Houston.
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Rode to my local Triumph dealer about a week ago and talked to sales guy. I was hoping to see a basic Bonnie on the floor: nope, gone and sold every one--more coming in May. He said they were allotted 5 Thruxtons for 2016 and four were sold, and he would be happy to take a deposit. Told him I had my V7R and he asked to look: gushed over my bike and told me twice if I ever wanted to sell it, call him. British guy, not sure what he is doing in Houston.
Anyway: the new Bonnies are selling fast. Otherwise their sales floor was jammed with bikes. Dead oil industry is causing financial ripples in Houston.
Give him my info I have a V7R I'd like to sell.
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Rode to my local Triumph dealer about a week ago and talked to sales guy. I was hoping to see a basic Bonnie on the floor: nope, gone and sold every one--more coming in May. He said they were allotted 5 Thruxtons for 2016 and four were sold, and he would be happy to take a deposit. Told him I had my V7R and he asked to look: gushed over my bike and told me twice if I ever wanted to sell it, call him. British guy, not sure what he is doing in Houston.
Anyway: the new Bonnies are selling fast. Otherwise their sales floor was jammed with bikes. Dead oil industry is causing financial ripples in Houston.
There is something about the black tank on the Racer. Guzzi nailed it with that look, and neither the chrome tank nor the new silver/black tank can quite match it.
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Torque and HP numbers look real good, and the weight isn't bad, but, only a 3.8 Gallon fuel tank !?!?!?
I still want one!
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I also don't understand why they won't use a modern monoshock rear suspension setup. The Italians have shown that a bike with classic styling can incorporate a monoshock. Why not take that small step to complete the package? I just don't get it. It's a hot looking machine with archaic suspension.
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I also don't understand why they won't use a modern monoshock rear suspension setup. The Italians have shown that a bike with classic styling can incorporate a monoshock. Why not take that small step to complete the package? I just don't get it. It's a hot looking machine with archaic suspension.
This is why: (https://www.searchlock.com/mirror/p?e=1&h=y89u9o/GI8E4VWYn9ktSiExGnzzAh0o0VkfyM6rszzmFgN8B7PKpadbz+E+ihkBj4J5lbecQ4lJNa7tX/bp59+qKCFxojA4RW+zt37Sfo8ZxnO3b2IC78qNwY4cYJQyccIiVAjpeuXksyWh/F6nCA9pL+GdculQekIKJXc4KVCY=&u=http://image.hojtorget.se/extra/bikeimg/15201_15300/triumph-legend-15201_49529899.jpg) They did not sell well. Fugly. Not traditional. period.
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I will not sell my Guzzi to buy a new Thruxton...I will not sell my Guzzi to buy a new Thruxton, I will not..
If I say it enough, I guess the 03 Stone Touring will continue residence in the Glorioso garage, but it isn't easy...
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At least this time around they bothered to put two front rotors on it. I never understood what they were thinking having a single front rotor on the old thruxton.
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They did not sell well. Fugly. Not traditional. period.
That bike was an ugly mess for certain, but the suspension had little to do with it.
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This is why: (https://www.searchlock.com/mirror/p?e=1&h=y89u9o/GI8E4VWYn9ktSiExGnzzAh0o0VkfyM6rszzmFgN8B7PKpadbz+E+ihkBj4J5lbecQ4lJNa7tX/bp59+qKCFxojA4RW+zt37Sfo8ZxnO3b2IC78qNwY4cYJQyccIiVAjpeuXksyWh/F6nCA9pL+GdculQekIKJXc4KVCY=&u=http://image.hojtorget.se/extra/bikeimg/15201_15300/triumph-legend-15201_49529899.jpg) They did not sell well. Fugly. Not traditional. period.
It was between the triple and the 02 Stone I ended up buying. As dependable as the stone has been I still like those old triples
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I really don't get why people complain about a bike like this not having a mono shock?
If you want a mono-shock for whatever performance benefits it might offer over a dual shock, that's great, but aren't there plenty of options out there already?
And if we're talking about the Ohlin's shod ThruxtonR - does it REALLY MATTER???
I dunno.
Here are my thoughts.
Tank isn't huge, but that's on purpose. And supposedly it's more efficient than ever before. Let's assume 3 usable gallons and 50 mpg (they CLAIM 61 mpg) - that's 150 miles at 50 mpg, if they're REAL about the 61 that could possibly be 180+! And if they're claiming that on the Thruxton, then the slightly more mildly tuned T120 should surely get that if sedately ridden (touring).
Aside from that, SIZE is the first thing I notice.
Length and wheelbase are both a couple of inches shorter than a V7, hell the wheelbase is even shorter than many Monsters.
Weight seems reasonable.
I'm still waiting to find something I DON'T like about these.
I'm very much looking forward to seeing a T120 IRL for the first time.
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I'm still waiting to find something I DON'T like about these.
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I could live with the small tank size, given all the other pluses. Heck, my Monster only has a 3.7 gallon tank.
I could seriously consider selling both my Monster and V7R, and buying a Thruxton R with the "Track Racer" fairing.
I'll have to ride one back to back against my Monster before making my final decision, but, damn, the Thruxton R is the best looking bike of the three.
And 82 lb*ft of torque -- what's not to like! :evil:
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Going to a monoshock adds rear wheel travel without having a mile-high seat height. Short travel is one of the things that makes dual shock bikes' rides on the harsh side.
The monoshock suspensions can have softer springs because of the longer travel, and can be better tuned for a good ride.
Even people who don't ride balls to the wall can benefit from a nice monoshock rear suspension.
I understand that dual shocks are traditional. But a cantilevered set up is also a pretty old design.
I really liked the looks of the rear suspension on the Ippogrifo. It looked retro vintage in a Vincent sort of way.
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Going to a monoshock adds rear wheel travel without having a mile-high seat height. Short travel is one of the things that makes dual shock bikes' rides on the harsh side.
The monoshock suspensions can have softer springs because of the longer travel, and can be better tuned for a good ride.
Even people who don't ride balls to the wall can benefit from a nice monoshock rear suspension.
I understand that dual shocks are traditional. But a cantilevered set up is also a pretty old design.
I really liked the looks of the rear suspension on the Ippogrifo. It looked retro vintage in a Vincent sort of way.
Come on man, you really think the Ohlins on these are going to ride like crap, balls to the walls or otherwise?
I think some people just can't resist measuring RCHS. No matter how good a bike is - power, brakes, or suspension, someone is going to want more.
At SOME point the manufacturers have to say enough-is-enough.
The entire Bonnie line is the cornerstone on which Triumph has built its modern success. If someone NEEDS a monoshock, get a Speed III or Street III.
But if they WANT the look/feel of a Bonnie, then there's no reason to go mono!
I could seriously consider selling both my Monster and V7R, and buying a Thruxton R with the "Track Racer" fairing.
OMFG - give it rest man.
I get wanting another bike now and again, I'll be happy to add something to the fleet in the next couple of years.
But you gotta stop this "if I sell these three I can buy this, if I sell this and buy that then I can only have one to do this, but if I sell this and that and buy this and those, then ... jezusss man.
The Monster was the first NEW BIKE YOU EVER BOUGHT. It's the last of the air-cooled Monsters. It's a cool bike. Don't ever get rid of it.
The V7R you've put stupid money into - it's also a VERY cool bike. Just hold onto it, ride it, enjoy it.
You've got the BMW appliances.
You've got the V7S workhorse.
You've got actual classic bikes too.
If you REALLY want a Thruxton - then sell about another half dozen old Japanese bikes and a couple of airheads and buy one.
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Stopped by the local T dealer yesterday; had 3 or 4 Bonnies of various levels T-100 etc and one street twin, which I was kinda interested in. Not as shiny, but reportedly has more low/mid range grunt than the Bonnies? Being a lazy, around town rider the smallish tank not an issue and I found the lack of brightwork not as unappealing as anticipated.
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Come on man, you really think the Ohlins on these are going to ride like crap, balls to the walls or otherwise?
I think some people just can't resist measuring RCHS. No matter how good a bike is - power, brakes, or suspension, someone is going to want more.
At SOME point the manufacturers have to say enough-is-enough.
The entire Bonnie line is the cornerstone on which Triumph has built its modern success. If someone NEEDS a monoshock, get a Speed III or Street III.
But if they WANT the look/feel of a Bonnie, then there's no reason to go mono!
Just making the argument for monoshocks. The Thruxton R will surely be a nice machine, and is near the top of my "want list". It's the Bonneville I've wanted since they reintroduced them 15 years ago.
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Wheelbase1415 mm (55.7 inches)Rake22.7�
Those are real racy numbers. It's an inch less wheelbase and 3 degrees less rake than the 2016 Bonneville if that is true? :popcorn:
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Wheelbase1415 mm (55.7 inches)Rake22.7�
Those are real racy numbers.
Yeah. Buell territory.
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Wow, I just gotta say that Triumph really has it going on. Love the Thruxton in gray. My only problem is that my significant other likes to ride with me and that beautiful piece of two wheeled art isn't going to work for our needs. Darn! Anyhow, going for a drive to look at Triumphs and BMWs shortly. Hopefully, they will have one on the floor for me to check out.
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Yeah. Buell territory.
Even HP & torque are close to my Uly, should be a fun ride.
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man, I will say the numbers are impressive and it's a nice looking bike.
The new engine has a physically smaller appearance than the last Bonnie. It would be nice to have a great performer in a pretty package. The new origami styling on the new bikes just doesn't catch me. I am not big fan for most of the retro bikes either but they've improved on theme here.
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Visor Down likes it:
http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-triumph-thruxton-r-review/30942.html (http://www.visordown.com/road-tests-first-rides/first-ride-triumph-thruxton-r-review/30942.html)
(http://s4.visordown.com/uploads/images/large/86114.jpg)
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Come on man, you really think the Ohlins on these are going to ride like crap, balls to the walls or otherwise?
I think some people just can't resist measuring RCHS. No matter how good a bike is - power, brakes, or suspension, someone is going to want more.
At SOME point the manufacturers have to say enough-is-enough.
The entire Bonnie line is the cornerstone on which Triumph has built its modern success. If someone NEEDS a monoshock, get a Speed III or Street III.
But if they WANT the look/feel of a Bonnie, then there's no reason to go mono!
OMFG - give it rest man.
I get wanting another bike now and again, I'll be happy to add something to the fleet in the next couple of years.
But you gotta stop this "if I sell these three I can buy this, if I sell this and buy that then I can only have one to do this, but if I sell this and that and buy this and those, then ... jezusss man.
The Monster was the first NEW BIKE YOU EVER BOUGHT. It's the last of the air-cooled Monsters. It's a cool bike. Don't ever get rid of it.
The V7R you've put stupid money into - it's also a VERY cool bike. Just hold onto it, ride it, enjoy it.
You've got the BMW appliances.
You've got the V7S workhorse.
You've got actual classic bikes too.
If you REALLY want a Thruxton - then sell about another half dozen old Japanese bikes and a couple of airheads and buy one.
Arn't brothers great? Somebody has to keep these kids real!😄😄
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But you gotta stop this "if I sell these three I can buy this, if I sell this and buy that then I can only have one to do this, but if I sell this and that and buy this and those, then ... jezusss man.
The Monster was the first NEW BIKE YOU EVER BOUGHT. It's the last of the air-cooled Monsters. It's a cool bike. Don't ever get rid of it.
The V7R you've put stupid money into - it's also a VERY cool bike. Just hold onto it, ride it, enjoy it.
You've got the BMW appliances.
You've got the V7S workhorse.
You've got actual classic bikes too.
If you REALLY want a Thruxton - then sell about another half dozen old Japanese bikes and a couple of airheads and buy one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was only thinking V7R + Monster, because, I have a hard time adding any more modern bikes to the fleet w/o letting some go. Most of the vintage Honda stuff, and two out of the three airheads are already slated for sale. The proceeds will likely go towards non motorcycle related expenses that I won't detail in a public forum (thank you "Affordable" Care Act).
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Arn't brothers great? Somebody has to keep these kids real!😄😄
Yeah, well, that cost me like 30+ text messages this evening. :violent1:
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Yeah, well, that cost me like 30+ text messages this evening. :violent1:
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it a shame the bike died during the test.
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Triumphs got it figured out i would say.....like to see some feed back on the 120 as well
small tank "meh" its big enough for what the Thruxton is meant for , it aint no touring bike ffs
Big torque and decent HP ...and a little fat
Twin shocks ! no problem its part of the retro and id bet they work just fine ...
Good on them , now i just have to figure out how to swangle a ride on one ....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI9jfqsVKs8&feature=youtu.be
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Thats a nice Triumph right there. :bow: