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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: azguzzirep on March 13, 2016, 01:03:10 PM
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because it's too hard to see anything??
I don't think I have night blindness, but a lot of light on the road sure helps.
Tom
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Don't have a problem with seeing riding at night. Do have a problem with all the Iowa deer on the roads at night. Daytime isn't much better anymore, just ask my dad.
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It's been recommended to me by my eye doc because of my glaucoma, but if JB can do his zillion miles with one eye, I should be able to get along fine with 1.5
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I try and avoid it as best I can even in a car or pickup. Yes, it is the darned woods rats(deer). Killed two with cars and hit one with the T3, luckily it was a fawn and hit my saddlebags, made me paranoid. Age does not help either in the visual-reaction time department.
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I'm starting to notice more flare from bright lights than I used to see, caused by cataracts. At some point I'll probably get that fixed, but as mentioned by Hymes Inc., deer are probably the biggest reason I avoid driving after the sun gets low. Where I live, most of what's along the roads is woods.
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Me too-my eyes don't like the extra bright headlights of modern cars and the deer seal the deal. I don't ride after dark unless I really have to. Even in the car, if it's a dark rainy night in traffic I don't feel my vision is good enough to be as safe as I like. Damn it!
Terry
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Well, I won't LEAVE home in the dark, but I've been known to go home. Too many deer in my neck of the woods :bike-037:
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I try to avoid riding after sundown mostly because of the local wildlife. However, I usually role out of here at 4:30am for work, it's dark, I'm as cautious as possible. As for bike nights, cruise nights, etc., I depart for home before sunset. And, I'm not a big fan of on-coming traffic having HID headlights, too bright for my eyes to recover quickly, sometimes they're almost blinding for me. Oh well!
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Every work day. Ride home with the deer and the drunks.
The modern cars with those sucky projector headlights are the main issue.
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When I 1st started riding(early 60's) I had a swing shift job on my 250 Yamaha twin. 1 night coming home from work my front tire hit a new pothole I never saw and I was doing 50 mph................ ....this is before FF helmets existed. I almost flew over the handlebars !! :evil: After that I got an apt. closer to work and haven't ridden @ night since unless it was my only option.
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I enjoy riding at night, but seldom do because of the many deer, and also because I enjoy a couple of adult beverages around sundown. No riding after that....
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I have a set of yellow lens I use at night which helps greatly!
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No riding for me after deer o'clock. I can see pretty well at night and have a great headlight on my BMW, but the deer flying out of the woods are too much of a risk for me. I really don't even like driving anything other than our F150 when the deer are out...
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I try to avoid it in deer country. Around town, not so much.
But it might not be your night vision, it could be those crappy 55w H4 lights.
I don't go faster than I can see. :thumb:
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I don't do it...cause of our deer density here.
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Wow, deer are cute but they seem to be a major nuisance. I love to ride my bicycle on country roads at night, hit a deer once (or it hit me) but not much damage since I am a slow cyclist. I am lucky living where I do because I can ride my motorcycle accross the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway. No deer, no oncoming headlights, and Morning Call Coffee Stand is at the other end, a perfect sunset or night time ride!
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It is rare for me except maybe in a city riding back to a motel from dinner. Too many deer as even Lawrence Brodsky found out the hard way. Until I got the Norge the T-3 headlight didn't cut it at highway speeds but the Norge lighting is not an excuse.
GliderJohn
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Deer not much of a problem here in the uk but high traffic densitys and the modern ultra bright headlights are a real problem as old eyes don't adapt to the changes from light to dark quickly enough, also l have difficulty picking out the sides of the road in the dark, pity i used to really enjoy fast riding down country lanes when i was young and Iresponsible.
john
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Since I moved to Alaska, I rarely ride in the dark... mostly because riding season is Sun season. I think I still know how to ride in the dark
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because it's too hard to see anything??
I don't think I have night blindness, but a lot of light on the road sure helps.
Tom
Tom, you should get your eyes checked immediately.
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I am very reluctant to ride at night, especially around here in N KY: lots of deer (I was hurt badly when I hit one a few years ago), but even worse are the narrow windy roads with no shoulders, full of pot holes and, you never know when you might encounter a love seat that someone tossed out of their PU truck.
It's no longer fun to ride at night; used to love it.
Jon
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Not fun for me driving or riding after dark these days it's as though everyone has main beam on. Wife hit a deer one night and it caused £1,000 damage. Steve.
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I like the deserted downtown and business district close to midnight. After a rain, every thing has a black and white photo edginess in a color world patina. I should have taken more pictures over the years.
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I for one have kept it to a minimum since all three of my high speed accidents were at night . One thing that does help though is LED headlights . Both my Goozis will be getting the LED treatment VERY soon .
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Though I still ride at night, it's only when necessary.
For those of you who (like me) wear corrective glasses, there's a coating that reduces flare and diffraction (I think) that makes night vision easier for us old coots.
Best,
Carlo
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I generally just hide under the bed if it gets dark out. Seriously though I enjoy riding at night. With good lights ( my friend Bill calls them theater lights) I can see deer better at night but there are more of them moving around then so I play "dodge deer". It is dangerous when you mix unskilled traffic , deer and night so I do it less frequently as I get old and slow.
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I run upon too much stuff in the road in the daytime to try to avoid. Don't ride at night unless I'm out and loose track of time.
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I second the recommendation to have your eyes evaluated asap.
When I was in college I had a routine eye exam done. The ophthalmologist asked me about night time driving and I mentioned that I rode a motorcycle. He gave me a couple of free contacts with 0.25 greater strength than my usual prescription. So rather than -1.50 for my right and -2.00 for my left eye, these were for -1.75 and -2.25, and they were to be used specifically for night time riding.
I hadn't really thought about that much until this post, and, to be honest, I don't even think that I used them.
As for headlamps, there's a ton of LED and HID options that'll light up the pavement in ways that'll make your old halogen H4 jealous. That said, I don't find myself behind the handlebars for too many hours after dark. It's just not necessary at this point in my life. Kinda miss getting soaked to the bone by rain on my ride home from work....wait a minute, no, no I don't.
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Will ride if it's raining or after dark. but not both.
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Rare for me these days at almost age 62 due to traffic and deer. In my teens, in Durango, CO: LOVED night rides in the summer.
Might do some this summer, or not.
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Love riding at night as long as it's summer. Night and cold, don't do that anymore at all. Used to ride all night sometimes. Mostly in areas with lighter traffic. Don't like being in heavy traffic in the dark.
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:grin:
I quit riding in the dark 15 years ago when I moved to the Yukon.
My driveway is snow-packed until April. After that the sun is spending 14 hours above the horizon and climbing.
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I get new glasses every two years. This includes total eye exam.
I used to ride at night through AZ all the time. City driving is no problem, lots of nice street lights to shine on the streets.
My concern now is driving through rural areas not well lit. Highways aren't a problem either. Lots of lane markers to follow.
Driving in this region at night is difficult. Small towns spread apart by a few km's of mostly unmarked two lanes. It can be difficult to navigate at times.
I'm not too worried about deer but they are supposed to be around.
I just dislike night driving more and more. I guess it's more about my locations than my abilities.
Tom
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I love riding at night in the city if it's warm out. I like to explore alley ways and places I haven't been before. Out in the country is a different matter though, deer are a pain in the butt.
The headlights on the B11 aren't very good at night unless you can use the high beam, so I tend to stick to city areas where it's well lit.
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I use to love leaving for a trip an hour or two before sunrise. Usually calm winds and lots of smells along with the dawn.
GliderJohn
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I love riding at night in the city if it's warm out. I like to explore alley ways and places I haven't been before. Out in the country is a different matter though, deer are a pain in the butt.
The headlights on the B11 aren't very good at night unless you can use the high beam, so I tend to stick to city areas where it's well lit.
That was my impression too. I don't want o be prevented from riding at night but I do need to improve dip beam on my B11
A man sized bulb and beam aim is on the list of fixes for me!
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Generally, I'm no longer as keen as I used to be night riding, but just did it again tonight & it was great. A cool 24C, only a little traffic - I think perhaps the midday nap I had today had an effect. Come to think of it, I have no qualms leaving on trips an hour or so before dawn. Maybe us old farts just need to be rested to enjoy it.
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While I don't often travel at night, I don't too much mind travelling on interstates after dark. I feel more visible at night even in the rain w/my reflective surfaces reflecting. Unfamiliar cities w/their speedy traffic, unusual twists and turns can be a bit trying though, but even then the traffic is generally lighter. Deer are less of a worry than those cable median barriers, I shudder to think of becoming tangled in one of those, day or night.
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I ride to work every morning in the dark. Most of it interstate. My eyes are still ok and no signs of any issues yet. But only 62 :)
PS and, no, if I have a choice I won't ride in the rain after dark.
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There are way too many drivers out there who have vision problems at night and believe that their problems entitle them to not dim their lights for an on coming vehicle or when approaching one from behind.
They need the extra light to see the road when oncoming glare blinds them so they just stay on brights even if you flicker yours to remind them. If they are that bad with their night vision, they should leave the driving to someone else.
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There are way too many drivers out there who have vision problems at night and believe that their problems entitle them to not dim their lights for an on coming vehicle or when approaching one from behind.
They need the extra light to see the road when oncoming glare blinds them so they just stay on brights even if you flicker yours to remind them. If they are that bad with their night vision, they should leave the driving to someone else.
I encounter that often on the way home from work. I used to flick my high beams at them. Now, I just turn on my high beams and leave them on until they dip their lights. The Stelvio has dual HID bulbs and two very bright LED spots that come on with my high beams. It has to be very unpleasant for them. Oh well, I have to see through their bright lights.
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Do not ride at night in Eastern Idaho especially due to: elk, moose, deer, grizzly bears, bison, bears, cattle, wolves, inattentive drivers, and Bigfoot. I think I covered all the possible dangers in this area. And in winter, early spring, and parts of late fall, it is too darn cold.
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I encounter that often on the way home from work. I used to flick my high beams at them. Now, I just turn on my high beams and leave them on until they dip their lights. The Stelvio has dual HID bulbs and two very bright LED spots that come on with my high beams. It has to be very unpleasant for them. Oh well, I have to see through their bright lights.
I too have tried that technique. I found it dangerous because of the stupidity of the oncoming driver.
When you leave your brights on, the idiots subconciously are steering towards you attracted by your brights.
It is the steer where you look syndrome.
I try to stay off the roads at night as much as possible.
Also I have experienced police who drive up on your rear with their brights on high so that you will be unable to identify them as police. The intent is to stampede you into defensively speeding up so that they can ticket you. The last time it happened to me, I said to the officer, " I accept the ticket but I will go to court and request a charge against you for tailgating with your brights on. He decided to let me off with a warning.
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Do not ride at night in Eastern Idaho especially due to: elk, moose, deer, grizzly bears, bison, bears, cattle, wolves, inattentive drivers, and Bigfoot. I think I covered all the possible dangers in this area. And in winter, early spring, and parts of late fall, it is too darn cold.
In norCal you have mtn. lions to contend with too, but no moose, grizzly or bison.
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Do not ride at night in Eastern Idaho especially due to: elk, moose, deer, grizzly bears, bison, bears, cattle, wolves, inattentive drivers, and Bigfoot. I think I covered all the possible dangers in this area.
That's nothing.
We have rednecks in 4x4s.
:boozing:
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In norCal you have mtn. lions to contend with too, but no moose, grizzly or bison.
I had one jump out in front of me in So Cal up near Pepperdine. That image is "seared in my memory"...
I will ride at night but I don't like to since it cuts down on my drinking/cigars/bs...
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Maybe it is just different but I see better with the yellow bulbs rather than white.
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I had one jump out in front of me in So Cal up near Pepperdine. That image is "seared in my memory"...
I will ride at night but I don't like to since it cuts down on my drinking/cigars/bs...
You had a red neck jump in front of you near pepperdine?
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I'm ok on a motorcycle but both of my cars are low to the ground and oncoming traffic bothers me at night especially pick ups with misaimed lights and those idiots who use the fog lights all the time.
Now some drivers are adding led driving lights, not aiming them properly and using them in clear weather.
On a bike I'm up higher so its not as bad
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It's been recommended to me by my eye doc because of my glaucoma, but if JB can do his zillion miles with one eye, I should be able to get along fine with 1.5
you can get a special prescription for glaucoma if you're in Colorado, or California. .possibly even a few other more accommodating states. I think the most effective prescription goes by the pharmaceutical name of "Stankeye". The generic version if you're worried about co-pay is "Mindblender".
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The area around me has the highest incidence of Roo strike of anywhere in NSW! If you think deer are dim you ain't seen nuffink until you've encountered an eastern grey kangaroo!
Mainly though I don't ride or drive much at night because I'm a lazy homebody who doesn't like being further away from my bed than my local pub and they have a courtesy bus to take my miserable drunken carcass home in! :boozing:
Pete
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you can get a special prescription for glaucoma if you're in Colorado, or California. .possibly even a few other more accommodating states. I think the most effective prescription goes by the pharmaceutical name of "Stankeye". The generic version if you're worried about co-pay is "Mindblender".
I'm still amazed that with all the preventive medicine I took that I ever got glaucoma
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That's nothing.
We have rednecks in 4x4s.
:boozing:
We have those too, lots of them but they are out mostly in the day, mountain lions too, fox, coyote. Just about everything that used to roam North America is still around here.
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My club is doing the monthly dinner tomorrow evening.
I am riding.
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You had a red neck jump in front of you near pepperdine?
Probably a college student dressed for Halloween ...
" Macho macho man ,
I got to be ,
a macho man "
Dusty
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Fortunately our deer are real scaredy cats, probably because if they show there faces they get shot. :thumb: Noxious animule here.
I am evidently just getting a touch of cataract in my left eye, but it has not stopped me night riding. A lot of my early miles were done at night and I really got to enjoy riding during the night. Still do.
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I rode at night a great deal as a younger guy, but it was at least partly because of where I lived. Both in New Orleans and in Albuquerque, I truly loved riding through the city on summer nights. The air has a soft quality that makes me want to just cruise along at a moderate pace, smelling smells and seeing what is going on. Nowadays, I live out in the country and between deer and drunk drivers I limit night riding to a minimum. My eyes are still holding up pretty well...I need readers for close work, but my distance and night vision is still okay.
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I do not ride at night.Eye doc says I have cataracts coming and I can tell.
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I pretty much avoid it if at all possible. So I haven't quit, I just rarely do it.
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You had a red neck jump in front of you near pepperdine?
I had a mountain lion jump out in front of me! The red necks are further up and to the east of Pepperdine...
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Still like the solitude and singularity of purpose while driving at night. But I am experiencing some flare and double vision at night. It' not 'bad' but I don't see it getting better unless the new glasses clear some of it up. I just don't have much need to ride at night unless I'm on a cross country interstate trek.
Spud