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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: PJPR01 on March 25, 2016, 10:30:04 AM
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In the latest TV commercial for Gillette Venus razors for women...a beautiful chrome tanked V7 featured prominently!
Lovely long legged lady in a pair of shorts walks towards the bike, then rides off on it...nope, she's not ATGATT...
I guess Guzzi is trying to expand the appeal of the V7 to women now as well, and it might be working, saw a young hipster chick riding a black V7 thru downtown Houston the other day!
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A woman's bike? Absolutely !
And a Sportster is for chicks, just poll the Motor Co.'s "faithful".. :rolleyes:
..but, it's all good. Ride for YOU.
I'm taking the mighty Griso out for a spin now, my chest hair flowing in the wind.
:boozing:
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When the 750 Breva came out it was claimed to be a woman's bike too. Doesn't bother me in the least. No one has ever accused me of being a wuss when riding it.
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Any motorcycle can be a woman's bike, just as any scooter can be a man's bike! ;)
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Or, as Ahnold would say, it's a girly-bike.
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Yes, the V7 is a woman's bike. You'd be amazed at the number of women I have met who own a V7. Well, maybe just interested. Like, maybe 4. With that said we had an instant bond and I really enjoyed talking about the small block bike with these women. As a matter of fact, while at Bike Week in Daytona I cranked up my bike to ride out of a parking spot and a young woman called out to me. I turned and she was on a V7 about 15 feet away. She was surprised to hear "her" bike start when she had yet to put the key in the ignition...she had heard mine. Later that week I met two other female V7 owners. I thought "Heck, this is better than having a puppy on a leash."
Peter Y.
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In the latest TV commercial for Gillette Venus razors for women...a beautiful chrome tanked V7 featured prominently!
I've seen that ad a few times over the past couple weeks.
Good job by PGA on getting the bike into the ad and in front of millions of viewers! :thumb:
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A woman's bike? Absolutely !
And a Sportster is for chicks, just poll the Motor Co.'s "faithful".. :rolleyes:
..but, it's all good. Ride for YOU.
I'm taking the mighty Griso out for a spin now, my NOSE hair flowing in the wind.
:boozing:
fify
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there's a leftover 13 at a nearby dealer. didn't realize the v7 was such a chick magnet!!
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Isn't almost any motorcycle a better attractant than a puppy on a leash? (Nothing against puppies; I love puppies.) :wink:
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Isn't almost any motorcycle a better attractant than a puppy on a leash? (Nothing against puppies; I love puppies.) :wink:
A puppy riding a motorcycle is the ultimate chick magnate :laugh:
Dusty
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In our little motorcycle group, we have a lot of women that ride. The vast majority of them are on Harleys. Only one or two are Sportsters. I guess that would make all Harleys girlie bikes?
But then we have a bunch that ride Japanese bikes, so I guess Japanese bikes are girlie bikes too?
I'm the only one that rides a Guzzi, so I guess that Guzzi's are manly bikes?
Now I am confused.
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I would say that the V7 is definitely more appealing to women. It's not heavy, it's not super powerful and the seat height is low. All of these things are deciding factors in women wanting a bike, at least that I've heard come out.
Women aren't interested in huge powerful monster bikes as a general rule. They don't care about horsepower.
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there's a leftover 13 at a nearby dealer. didn't realize the v7 was such a chick magnet!!
Put a side car on it with a golden retriever puppy in the side car....... that's a chick magnet. :thumb:
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the girl i knew on a small breva was a real girly-girl...so girly-girl in fact she rode from ct to seattle and back on that Breva, with her husband just for fun...about 5 foot nothing...put us hairy manly men in our place
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I hope this does not appear sexist but all small block Guzzi's are womens bikes in the sence they are bikes that men who ride motorcycles would choose for their women to ride. This seems to be true regardless of whether the man rides a Guzzi or not.
Yes you can have one of those dear (and I won't look like a total &@*# if I ever have to ride it)
Got to get her away from that Honda Shadow Spirit she was after, It's bad enough having a Suzuki Vitara on the drive.
I really need a smaller less commited riding position bike for pottering around town but she'll be really angree if I go buy another bike. I know I'll buy a small Guzzi and pretend I bought it for her.
That Triumph 1200 America does look nice but it's bigger than my bike and people might start asking who wears the trousers in this relationship?
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But girls ride all kinds of bikes ....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/ducati%20girl_zpsu8apolwx.jpg)
Normally, you would only see them when they are standing still.
Like at bike shows.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/2009-Long-Beach-International-motorcycle-show-036_zps7deedru5.jpg)
Where .....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/EICMA_Cartoon_zpsodhppaw2.jpg)
Where hormones flow ..... :grin:
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Actually I have a crush on girls who don't shave -
Anyone know what bikes they prefer to ride?
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Sex sells....ever see a Rigid Tool calender? Just because the fine young thang is holding a 36" Pipe Wrench doesn't make it a 'Woman's Pipe Wrench'...think a Miata is a 'chick car'? Don't say that in front of Spec B race car drivers! :grin:
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Silly thread...
Placing the Guzzi V7 in the Gillette ad was probably a result of a hipster at the advertising firm wanting to add some Italian style to the scene being portrayed. The ad isn't about motorcycling, or women motorcyclists. And, the Guzzi in it is just an objet d'art.
They never really show the bike well, or up close. So maybe some people who are motorcyclists will see it and wonder enough about it to search it up and discover Guzzis.
keywords: Gillette Venus Moto Guzzi V7 Racer Italian Motorcycle
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I would say that the V7 is definitely more appealing to women. It's not heavy, it's not super powerful and the seat height is low. All of these things are deciding factors in women wanting a bike, at least that I've heard come out.
Women aren't interested in huge powerful monster bikes as a general rule. They don't care about horsepower.
so, size doesn't matter?
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/2s0ebk1.jpg_zpsljunpf6x.gif) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/2s0ebk1.jpg_zpsljunpf6x.gif.html)
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fify
busted! :laugh:
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I am amazed that there is not a great revolt from women on this thread. I know a few women that can seriously thrash me through the twisties and I am no slouch. I also know a 5'6" 103 pound lady that rides a fitted out superglide and has no problem with the weight. Granted she might need help picking it up but I prolly would too.
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In any event, the only competition SHOULD be who has the biggest grin on their face! :thumb:
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so, size doesn't matter?
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/2s0ebk1.jpg_zpsljunpf6x.gif) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/2s0ebk1.jpg_zpsljunpf6x.gif.html)
You have like the worse reflexes Kip. :grin:
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So, can someone post a link to this offensive Gillette ad?
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Everybody knows real men ride Tonti big blocks with Del Lorto's :rolleyes:
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The ad is hardly offensive at all, it's very tastefully done, there's nothing derisive or condescending in the ad whatsoever.
I haven't been able to find a youtube version of it, just saw it this morning on the TV.
It's a very nice V7, you see the lady walk towards it, then it cuts away to her riding away on it.
Just an interesting choice, hence the question, if Gillette or Guzzi think that this is the market to showcase a V7...nothing further.
Neither this thread or the ad is in anyway slanted negatively towards women...
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Put a side car on it with a golden retriever puppy in the side car....... that's a chick magnet. :thumb:
Put a sidecar on ANY bike and you have a chick magnet. :wink: My MP3s are chick magnets too. :grin:
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This coincides with California 1400's that appear in the new Dos Equis ad with the most interesting man in the world. Seems Madison Avenue is on a Guzzi kick?
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Is there any wonder why we don't have more women on this board? :thewife:
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Placing the Guzzi V7 in the Gillette ad was probably a result of a hipster at the advertising firm wanting to add some Italian style to the scene being portrayed. The ad isn't about motorcycling, or women motorcyclists. And, the Guzzi in it is just an objet d'art.
They never really show the bike well, or up close. So maybe some people who are motorcyclists will see it and wonder enough about it to search it up and discover Guzzis.
keywords: Gillette Venus Moto Guzzi V7 Racer Italian Motorcycle
I agree. Don't discount the power of hipster ad "artists."
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Is there any wonder why we don't have more women on this board? :thewife:
Yes but look at all the guys in touch with their feminine sides riding smallblocks :laugh:
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Yes but look at all the guys in touch with their feminine sides riding smallblocks :laugh:
(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/broughsuperior/smallblocks_zpsc28ffdb6.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/broughsuperior/media/smallblocks_zpsc28ffdb6.jpg.html) :laugh:
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I'm not even gonna read all the aggressively defensive, grumpy old white guy posts which I'm sure this thread is littered with.
I'ma just gonna say this:
They (the new v-7s - you may well note the deliberate lower case v. Pity, there's no such thing as a lower case 7).... that is, I say, the v-7s might as well come with a bud-vase or gelata spoon for a key holder! :evil: :thewife: :boxing:
Todd.... Duckin' and coverin'!
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I'm not even gonna read all the aggressively defensive, grumpy old white guy posts which I'm sure this thread is littered with.
I'ma just gonna say this:
They (the new v-7s - you may well note the deliberate lower case v. Pity, there's no such thing as a lower case 7).... that is, I say, the v-7s might as well come with a bud-vase or gelata spoon for a key holder! :evil: :thewife: :boxing:
Todd.... Duckin' and coverin'!
Surprised they don't have a little pocket for the Starbucks charge card.
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Is there any wonder why we don't have more women on this board? :thewife:
Most of the female riders I know are waaaayyyy too dignified for this board :grin:
Dusty
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Most of the female riders I know are waaaayyyy too dignified for this board :grin:
Dusty
I hope hardaspie doesn't see this :cool:
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Most of the female riders I know are waaaayyyy too dignified for this board :grin:
Dusty
Chicks have way thicker skins than we, and some of their own kind, give them credit for.
The entire - well significant majority anyhow - American male segment is generally well tolerated for our sins, on the whole.
Todd.
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Here is the real question , is the 675 MV Agusta in either of its iterations a chick bike ? :evil:
Dusty
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Yes, I'm going to be that annoying European.
There is no such thing as a woman's bike. Americans need to get over their gender insecurities. In many cases they produce the opposite of the intended outcome. I'm not saying that this phenomenon doesn't happen elsewhere. However:
The relationship between man and machine can sometimes be likened to that between a man and woman. Take an E-type or Alfa 8c as an example. Curvaceous, finicky and somewhere out there there is a man tired of her sh*t.
The relationship between the insecure male and his overly loud Camaro is more like a relationship between a guy and a guy. Now, there is nothing wrong with that but I doubt that was the intention.
Come to think of it, I refer to my KLR as the donkey which may be an entirely different level of dysfunctional relationship;)
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A women's bike only as a prop in a commercial ad. You guys are overthinking it.
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BRIO , I seriously doubt that Europeans are any more annoying than Americans , especially Okies , or our cousins to the South :grin:
Dusty
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Love the way the thread drifts...true Wildguzzi style. Maybe if you guys would watch the commercial, you'll see there is nothing negative about the ad itself...
Hell of a leap of faith to go to gender insecurities from a commercial...I mean, I can see how you connected the dots, but that really wasn't the point of the thread...it wasn't at all about being insecure, it was about marketing to women, just like marketing to men, or to any other group of buyers...targeted advertising.
Obviously Gillette for Women thought that the connection was there, who knows if it is or it isn't...but it's hardly related to gender insecurity...
How go and shave with a woman's razor won't you! :grin: :grin:
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You mean, like, my legs??? I dunno.... :undecided:
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You mean, like, my legs??? I dunno.... :undecided:
ROFL...that's funny!! :thumb: :thumb:
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Here is the real question , is the 675 MV Agusta in either of its iterations a chick bike ? :evil:
Dusty
But not as good of a chick bike as the triumph
And as long as there was a Pontiac firebird, the camaro was a chick car :laugh: at least that's what my cousin told me when I had my camaro.
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But not as good of a chick bike as the triumph
So you're saying the Triumph is also a better chick bike ? :laugh:
Dusty
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So you're saying the Triumph is also a better chick bike ? :laugh:
Dusty
Little triple vs big triple, just carrying on the theme that size matters :rolleyes: :laugh:
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pretty sure the European woman don't use razors.
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Cher rides a Harley (or at least she used to)
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Love the way the thread drifts...true Wildguzzi style. Maybe if you guys would watch the commercial, you'll see there is nothing negative about the ad itself...
Hell of a leap of faith to go to gender insecurities from a commercial...I mean, I can see how you connected the dots, but that really wasn't the point of the thread...it wasn't at all about being insecure, it was about marketing to women, just like marketing to men, or to any other group of buyers...targeted advertising.
Obviously Gillette for Women thought that the connection was there, who knows if it is or it isn't...but it's hardly related to gender insecurity...
How go and shave with a woman's razor won't you! :grin: :grin:
I'd say asking the question "is the V7 a woman's bike?" is a pretty good indicator that the OP thinks women's and men's bikes exist without concluding that the OP has insecurities. I do believe that there is a lot of unhealthy gender insecurities present in our society when it comes to something like this. I bet you a lot of guys would have fun on a TU250x or in a Mazda Miata but don't dare buy one due to the associated stigma.
My point was who cares? The V7 is a great bike. Period...
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I'd say asking the question "is the V7 a woman's bike?" is a pretty good indicator that the OP thinks women's and men's bikes exist without concluding that the OP has insecurities. I do believe that there is a lot of unhealthy gender insecurities present in our society when it comes to something like this. I bet you a lot of guys would have fun on a TU250x or in a Mazda Miata but don't dare buy one due to the associated stigma.
My point was who cares? The V7 is a great bike. Period...
Jeeze - overthink/judge much?
If your funny bone was as delicate as your sensitivity you'd probably have more fun and less angst.
Get over the outrage - it's clearly all in fun.
And besides - what's wrong with declariing something to be "women's" after all. Keeps Mazda building Miatas or whatever they're called these days.... Midolas? :evil:
This from a guy who digs the livin' bejeepers outa his "Chick Bike" Harley 883.
Bugs me not a whit while the moniker cracks me up.
Insecurity, thy name is crusader.
Todd.
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I'd say asking the question "is the V7 a woman's bike?" is a pretty good indicator that the OP thinks women's and men's bikes exist without concluding that the OP has insecurities. I do believe that there is a lot of unhealthy gender insecurities present in our society when it comes to something like this. I bet you a lot of guys would have fun on a TU250x or in a Mazda Miata but don't dare buy one due to the associated stigma.
My point was who cares? The V7 is a great bike. Period...
Brio...did you read the 2nd half of the title as well? It's a Marketing question...that was the gist of it...Gillette/Guzzi including a V7 in their ad, not mine, to market to women...
That you hopped, skipped and jumped to gender insecurities is quite a reach...did I make any statement to that effect? Nope...nothing of the kind...
There is marketing geared towards women, men, children, Hispanics, Blacks and many other demographics...does that mean that others who use those products have insecurities too? Hardly! If my girlfriend decided in the future that she wanted to ride a Guzzi, I'd probably recommend her starting on a V7 rather than a Griso or a Norge due to the weight difference, for now she's quite happy to ride pillion on the Norge. No one said the V7 wasn't a great bike either, is anyone disparaging it in the thread? No.
Back on topic again...
Your truly...Paul ( 1/2 European, 1/2 American)...since you think that's relevant to the opinions. :)
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You don't understand what I'm saying or the intention. I digress.
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Restoring niceness in thread in 3
to one.
This from a lady rider's point of view...
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/woman%20biker_zpsexgalyk0.jpg)
Wonderful! I have that wish too! :wink:
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Emily who used to work for Moto America the former importer was max 5'2' and had all her Guzzi's lowered. Last bike I remember her riding was a Centauro. Barbara Nowell (Mark Tenney's spouse) has had more Guzzi's that I can remember including a Rosso Mandello.
I have a professional basketball player who drools over my Mille every time she comes to see me and started looking at V7s a year ago in LA. She said she was probably going to wait until he career was over and then buy a Guzzi.
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Restoring niceness in thread in 3
to one.
This from a lady rider's point of view...
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/woman%20biker_zpsexgalyk0.jpg)
Wonderful! I have that wish too! :wink:
Love it! Great humor.
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When the Breva came out the accessory list had on it what they called a "lady's seat", being a bit lower than the one fitted. The Breva was promptly called a "lady's bike". Yes, a lot of guys did buy a Breva for their womanfolk but then, when they borrowed it to whip down to the shops etc., they found out what a neat ride it is.
As one that goes waaaaay back I can tell you that the Breva really broke down the barriers as regards big block owners that really used to sneer at small-block owners.
And I say, thank goodness for that. :thumb:
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It's only a girls bike if it's pink...
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I hope this hasn't already been posted, but this advertisement has been showing on New Zealand TV recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYniDvs9JI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yYniDvs9JI)
A bit of exposure for the brand.
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Oh great...not only do we have legends about guzzis being a tractor, but now..."hey, that's that bike in the WOMENS SHAVING COMMERCIAL....!"
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I hope this hasn't already been posted,
It has. I've just merged it into the previous threadfest.
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I remember when the first Quotas came to the US in the `90s MG had a woman standing next to 1 in an ad here. Is that why they didn't sell well here? :undecided:
When I bought my 750 Breva years ago I couldn't care less women rode them too. :azn:
Last I saw Ed Milich's wife rides a LM I. Does that mean you're a wuss if you ride 1?
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The girl with the dragon tattoo didn't care about whether or not her motorcycle was a girlie bike.
And you don't want to piss her off.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6re58gyfQOU/TxSpBtIAICI/AAAAAAAAJAk/hsp5j6ZUDwg/s640/Rooney-Mara-Girl-with-Dragon-Tattoo.jpg)
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Here is the real question , is the 675 MV Agusta in either of its iterations a chick bike ? :evil:
Dusty
Might be a good bike for chicks, but not a chick bike. There is a difference. If it had small horsepower than it would be a chick bike like the V7.
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So???
Apparently the original V7 Sport was much loved by pretty girls as well.
Personally I think that is a good thing!
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/74%20V7%20Sport/bikeshow2015_zps892f9e28.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/74%20V7%20Sport/bikeshow2015_zps892f9e28.jpg.html)
My buddy was trying to get a clear shot of the back end (of the bike) but these ladies kept blocking his view, so he claims.
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/74%20V7%20Sport/20150118_163912_zps0dc1fb50.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/74%20V7%20Sport/20150118_163912_zps0dc1fb50.jpg.html)
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What's with the smart looking girl on the left? She seems bored. Not the way to win my affection (not that anyone cares).
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.... the way i see it , HOT girls that shave their legs....ride guzzi , what's no like ?
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Always liked this classic Zagato Guzzi photo! :thumb: :1: :cool:
(http://thumb.ibb.co/f60iDv/372.jpg) (http://ibb.co/f60iDv)
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The girl with the dragon tattoo didn't care about whether or not her motorcycle was a girlie bike.
And you don't want to piss her off.[/quote
Since when is a CB350 a girl's bike?
Back to the V7, I love mine. My wife... she loves hers. My buddy loves his 883 Superlow. What makes a woman's bike a "woman's bike" is ownership.
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What's with the smart looking girl on the left? She seems bored. Not the way to win my affection (not that anyone cares).
She's trying to focus her eyes. That's why she needs glasses. :wink:
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She's trying to focus her eyes. That's why she needs glasses. :wink:
Honey, with that outfit she has all the focus she needs.
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http://www.indianmotorcyclechandler.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=2108758&p=1&make=moto guzzi&s=Year&d=D&t=preowned&
Mistral pipes and retune the ECU. Not a girl's bike. :thumb:
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Honey, with that outfit she has all the focus she needs.
Uhhhh....yeah. :wink:
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And it looks like she needs a helping hand! Me! Me! :cheesy:
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic002/guzzi%20girls%20bike_zpsn8bdwrqq.jpg)
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Hey....check out her pipes. :grin:
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She has managed to color code and match her exhaust wrap to her outfit....very coordinated!