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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Antietam Classic Cycle on April 04, 2016, 01:24:53 PM
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My local graphics guy doesn't want to tackle this, don't know if anyone here does this sort of thing. Here's what I want:
(http://my.raex.com/~spajohn/.photos/MotoGuzziDecals/lateambosidecover.jpg)
Except "1000" in place of the "750" and "Automatic" in place of "Ambassador", all in a font as close as possible to the original. Need to be in white for use on black battery covers, like these:
(http://my.raex.com/~spajohn/.photos/MotoGuzziDecals/Sidecovers003.jpg)
If anyone can do this, I'd like to hear from you.
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Finding the correct font for Ambassador (Automatic) could prove extremely difficult, unless Guzzi themselves can be of assistance.
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Try contacting "kingoffleece" here on the forum. I think he was selling decals in the swap meet section, so he may have the know-how.
I agree, that font will likely be impossible to find. Might want to giving this task to a tattoo artist and have them use paint - long shot still.
Good luck!
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Any Display house can have it made up in vinyl, might cost a bit. That is how they do graphics for Trade Shows.
Now what was a Rambler auto tranny called?
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No help on that, Charlie, but how is the atf pump experiment going?
Won't know how it works until the bike is up and running, long way from that point. Still stuck in mock-up stage. The engine is just an empty case.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/t31.0-8/12901196_873228192799313_4747509485387707607_o.jpg)
I hope to have the pump bracket made this week, been repairing the bandsaw so I can cut the .075" sheet metal. Right now it only exists in cardboard.
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/12901120_864591953662937_1639327611970110927_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/12593791_865509783571154_4434039251280842151_o.jpg)
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Nice CAD system you have there.
(Cardboard Aided Design) :grin: :grin: :grin:
You might try contacting someone like Greg Locke (artist/painter) to get the basic design, then turn it into a JPEG or PDF for printing.
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You might try contacting someone like Greg Locke (artist/painter) to get the basic design, then turn it into a JPEG or PDF for printing.
Good suggestion, but in particular, printers want vector graphics files like .SVG I've seen additional setup fees if they get something like a JPG, because they have to create the vector file before they can do the job.
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Good suggestion, but in particular, printers want vector graphics files like .SVG I've seen additional setup fees if they get something like a JPG, because they have to create the vector file before they can do the job.
If I had just an image of what I want, my graphics guy could scan and print it. I wouldn't even need an actual decal. He made some Cal 2 sidecover decals for me once by just putting one sidecover on his flatbed scanner and copying the decal. He's done others by finding an image on Google, resizing it and cleaning them up.
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If I had just an image of what I want, my graphics guy could scan and print it. I wouldn't even need an actual decal. He made some Cal 2 sidecover decals for me once by just putting one sidecover on his flatbed scanner and copying the decal. He's done others by finding an image on Google, resizing it and cleaning them up.
If your guy will do that at a reasonable price, more power to you both! :grin:
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If your guy will do that at a reasonable price, more power to you both! :grin:
He made two Cal II decals for $10 - very reasonable.
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Ooh, the perfect thread to hijack for my own needs...but rather than do that, I'll just mention my selfish needs here and go start my own thread, now that I see your approach...
I do not like my Bassa side covers - all that print on what could be a beautiful pearl white expanse. I've tried to remove the decal, but after fifteen years, it's there. Removal would leave a scar.
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Av design student with Adobe Illustrator should be able to help you. Measure the max height of the letters, than the over all dimensions of the piece. If they are just the side covers, my guess is that you are not talking about anything that big. The finescale modelling community design and print their own decals using printable decal stock. No reason why you can't do the same.
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Any signshop that has a digital signmaker should be able to do that in vinyl. Just find the font that is correct or so similar you can't tell the difference. Trick is to use the thinest vinyl you can, then it will look like it's painted on.
Dean
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...same font as the original.
There are a number of fora dedicated to typography. If you post your photo, and ask what typeface it is, you are likely to get an answer. This assumes that it is a known typeface. For an example of a unique typeface, the Moto Guzzi logo is one. It can be replicated fairly easily using what are called bezier curves, but extrapolating a unique typeface to other letters is another matter.
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I can do it. :thumb:
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Brushscript is pretty close. I'm sure a sign shop would have something satisfactory
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E2oIwm1VMYQ/VwLfqvLMqfI/AAAAAAAABOU/ZAndm4MlkNw-3kpoAjTX0_54cblGXsmhA/w1055-h660-no/Ambovert.jpg)
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This any good?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49288430/1000%20Automatic%201.png)
PM me your email address & I can send you it in SVG and DXF format.
Dave
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I gots competition! :kiss:
I can modify the type to your specs - the exact font faces are not on my system but I can take a couple of close ones and modify each letter or number. Faster that ways sometimes for a small job rather that digging thru my old stuff.
Here is a work in progess jpg - pick the number 1 that you like. I will use the same zero from the original. The ambassor fonts I have are close - it is a variation on a commerical script that I can also modify the letters to suit.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/guzzi%20v1000_zpsno45lp0n.jpg)
I put the next draft up asap!
:whip2:
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This any good?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49288430/1000%20Automatic%201.png)
PM me your email address & I can send you it in SVG and DXF format.
Dave
Wow! That's pretty darn close to perfect. Could you make the 1 the same size as the zeros?
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What typeface is that?
This is the second reply from people who say that they can do the job, but neither has volunteered the obvious - what typeface they are using. In both cases, it's pretty obvious that they are existing typefaces, and probably typefaces available on any computer or downloadable for free. If it were otherwise, I would expect to be told the name of the designer (e.g.Hoefler), the name of the face, and the cost.
Also, neither has identified the typeface shown in the original post, which anyone competent in typography should be able to do. As mentioned earlier, there are fora where there are people who could identify the face in the original photo, assuming that it isn't unique, immediately.
Sorry to have tried to help. :sad: You aren't even the original poster, so of what concern is it of yours may I ask. Have you been appointed as the Wildguzzi typeface Stasi? Sheesh!!! as they say in the USA.
Now to get back to the subject for the OP:
The typeface is Alex Brush. This was the closest I have installed. The capital A wasn't anywhere near close, so I converted it to polylines and edited it to suit. I had to do the same with the rest of the text and then blend the letters together. All done using a program called Artcam which I use with my CNC machine. This is the first time I've tried anything like this, so if the OP doesn't want it, I won't be offended. :smiley:
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Wow! That's pretty darn close to perfect. Could you make the 1 the same size as the zeros?
Yes I can Charlie. Do you want it in line with the zeros, below the lines, and the lines then being continuous? In the first version I just made it the same size as the original "7" and blended it in with the lines.
Dave
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I say we call it the Blue Pennie font :bow: Who needs another forum , we keep it in house :thumb:
Dusty
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Nice work Bluerobotz ! for extra points I think a little "AmboVert" signature emblem would be cool.. I don't know where on the bike it should go tho..
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Sorry to have tried to help. :sad: You aren't even the original poster, so of what concern is it of yours may I ask. Have you been appointed as the Wildguzzi typeface Stasi? Sheesh!!! as they say in the USA.
Now to get back to the subject for the OP:
The typeface is Alex Brush. This was the closest I have installed. The capital A wasn't anywhere near close, so I converted it to polylines and edited it to suit. I had to do the same with the rest of the text and then blend the letters together. All done using a program called Artcam which I use with my CNC machine. This is the first time I've tried anything like this, so if the OP doesn't want it, I won't be offended. :smiley:
I've always been interested by design- I remember going to Charette's in Harvard Square to get Letraset transfers in the days before computers! very, very cool, Blue. :bow: Was I correct that you can print this onto decal film?
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My turn!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/guzzi%20v1000_zpsswci0nlh.jpg)
You may want to modify the big number 1 and I can fatten up the Automatic letters and connect them better.
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Nice work Bluerobotz ! for extra points I think a little "AmboVert" signature emblem would be cool.. I don't know where on the bike it should go tho..
LOL. I'll give it a go, but later, have work to do at the moment, its just coming up to lunchtime over here in Aus.
Dave
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Yes I can Charlie. Do you want it in line with the zeros, below the lines, and the lines then being continuous? In the first version I just made it the same size as the original "7" and blended it in with the lines.
Dave
Yes, in line with the zeros, below the lines, lines continuous. Thanks!
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Yes, in line with the zeros, below the lines, lines continuous. Thanks!
How is this Charlie?
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/jg09os9n1q6uihs/1000%20automatic%202.png?dl=0)
or do you prefer the "1000" to be further to the left, the 1 starting where the previous 7 starts?
For some reason this image doesn't show up in my browser, so if its the same for you, just right click and select "open image in new tab"
Dave
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Rob- ratchet it back there a bit, buddy. Both Blue and Penderic have swooped down to help Charlie with some great work. The whole point here is that they have done it. I don't really care if they did it with magic wands. Frankly, in their business- I don't see any ethical reason for them to tell you anything. They are paid to produce a product.
Thanks,
I've done this as I've learned a lot from Charlie's posts over the years (and also from many more who post on here), so I'm trying to pay something back. I don't get paid for this, it is just a bit of a hobby. As for "Rob" - whomever he is anyway and frankly WGAFA? I'll get round to dealing with him later.
Dave
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A big thanks to (almost) everyone, especially Penderic and Bluerobotz. I didn't think such a simple request could turn into such a giant $hitstorm. :sad:
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Charlie , we are going to unlock this for a bit , so much good info here . Have cleaned it up some .
Dusty
PM sent
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Goody.
Latest version for enquiring minds....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/guzzi%20v950b_zpsmv6twaib.jpg)
:popcorn:
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/comp1_zpsfzxflon5.jpg)
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I was thinking 950 Automatic, better mimics 750 Ambassador. Good job...
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Do you guys do the vinyl too or do you need a cutter?
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Looks great! Good jobs guys.
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What about "Mille Automatico", or is that going too far?
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Goody.
Latest version for enquiring minds....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/guzzi%20v950b_zpsmv6twaib.jpg)
:popcorn:
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/comp1_zpsfzxflon5.jpg)
This one "nails it"! :grin:
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Improbability drive
Doug would think it amusing
Dusty
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Also, a popular automatic from the 60s was the Hyraflow.
I was thinking Powerglide
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That's "slip and slide power glide"
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Actually, I was thinking the Convert was pretty close in concept to the Buick Dynaflow..
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Oh, and *nice job* Penderic.. attaboy. :thumb:
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Depending on how you feel about calling a Convert an 'automatic' (it isn't), maybe 'fluid drive' or a like term
Slush pump?
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Yeah, the guys got their design pencils rightly sharp there. Are you gonna put their finals up for a vote, Charlie?
Penderic's last post is what I've decided to go with.
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/comp1_zpsfzxflon5.jpg)
Thanks very much to Bluerobotz for his designs as well.
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Cool thread. I'm amazed and the turnaround time! The final version just looks so right.
I vote that we declare this a rare prototype that was liberated from the elves in Mandello. Invent some story about how a disgruntled employee hopped on the thing and roared out of the factory in a cloud of smoke and echoed curses. We can all agree to keep it on the QT- that way we can have our own homegrown conspiracy.
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I wonder how many people will ask: "is that the new V9?". ;-)
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Cool thread. I'm amazed and the turnaround time! The final version just looks so right.
I vote that we declare this a rare prototype that was liberated from the elves in Mandello. Invent some story about how a disgruntled employee hopped on the thing and roared out of the factory in a cloud of smoke and echoed curses. We can all agree to keep it on the QT- that way we can have our own homegrown conspiracy.
The Keebler Elves ? They make more than cookies .
OK , someone get on the story ...
Dusty
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Pretty cool how that worked out, Bravo! :thumb:
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Should I do a full "Ambovert build thread" or are y'all sick of me yammering on about it already? ;-)
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OK, hopefully these will work.
(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k515/bluerobotz/Artwork/1000%20automatic%203_zpswnapoxgb.png) (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/bluerobotz/media/Artwork/1000%20automatic%203_zpswnapoxgb.png.html)
This one for fotoguzzi's amusement:
(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k515/bluerobotz/Artwork/Ambovert1_zpsfllpyuud.png) (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/bluerobotz/media/Artwork/Ambovert1_zpsfllpyuud.png.html)
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Should I do a full "Ambovert build thread" or are y'all sick of me yammering on about it already? ;-)
What ??? Oh you ain't getting away without a full build report ...
Dusty
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950 YammerDrive...... :)
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Should I do a full "Ambovert build thread" or are y'all sick of me yammering on about it already? ;-)
That's a big YES ( to the build thread)! Link it up.
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Okay, I'll start one and add to it as time allows.
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Late to the party here, working about 80hrs a week at the moment....
Just wanted to say that Charlie has provided THOUSANDS of dollars worth of free expert advise in his professional field to the members of WG and I see no problem with him asking for a little free help in someone else's professional field... What comes around goes around and the whole point of this board is to share info and skills to better the Guzzi community!