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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chuck in Indiana on April 15, 2016, 05:19:43 AM
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No, not mine. New member Kurtis said it was ok to post these of his after he restored it several years ago. He tells me that it is the one bike he should have never sold. :smiley:
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Nice. So, when do we see the photos of your newly fettled addition to the fleet?
Must admit that it looked pretty good anyway. :thumb:
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Well, Muzz.. mine isn't fettled at all. :smiley: It *does* appear to be totally original, though. I'm scrounging decals as we speak for an eventual restoration. Kurtis did an exemplary job on his..
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Well, mine isnt restored or even stock but is getting plenty of use.
Bought as crash damaged, then another crash, then a gearbox return spring faliure have kept the old girl in the Garage quite a bit the last two years. But she is back on her (newlt painted) wheels and running beautifully!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chris900ssie/albums/72157664838650636
Chris
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Looks like a rider.. thanks, Chris. :smiley:
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Kurtis, I hope you sold her for a lot of money. She is a beauty.
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Kurtis, I hope you sold her for a lot of money. She is a beauty.
Kurtis told me to take very good care of my original seat cover. They are unobtainium. Mine looks just like his except the red is several different shades from sitting in the sun. The black is faded beyond saving. The black decals on the fairing are bubbling, as is the paint. Pretty common stuff, and easily taken care of. I have all the decals now, including the rare blaze orange pieces on the fairing. The V50 Monza decals are back ordered, but available. I've learned from years of antique airplane restoration that if you think you might need it and it's available, just get it. :smiley:
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A customer's Monza, here last June for recommissioning after a long hibernation. Fairing was repainted due to the original paint and decals literally falling off and several cracks at screw holes.
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Nice, Charlie.. thanks.
That does it. I can't stand it. I'm not supposed to do *anything* physical yet, and that includes fooling with a motorcycle, but Dorcia isn't here, :thewife: and pushing around a Monza is about as tough as pushing a bicycle.
I'll roll it out after lunch and show some details of my new to me Monza. :smiley:
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A customer's Monza, here last June for recommissioning after a long hibernation. Fairing was repainted due to the original paint and decals literally falling off and several cracks at screw holes.
And I see new Avon Roadriders... nice.
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Looked over my shoulder, and the boss isn't here, so rolled the Monza out for a few pix. :smiley:
Well, duh.. it's bright outside, should have turned on the flash, but you get a feel for how narrow they are.
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Non standard Tarozzi fork brace and steering damper. The steering damper is well thought out, and a Guzzi part. No damage to the motorcycle installing it. See the decals on the calipers? (!) Not bad for 34 years old. Wheels are perfect.
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Very nice restorable original exhaust. Most are rusted out by now.. again, wheels are perfect. Noticed the original owner made an aluminum bracket so he didn't have to put the registration sticker on the bike? :thumb:
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View from the cockpit.. I likes it. :smiley: Everything works including all the indicator lamps. Heated grips aren't standard, of course, but easily removable.
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It's the first *nice* day of the year. Would I absolutely *love* to take it for a ride? Uhh.. yeah. :sad:
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When the Kid delivered the bike, I saw him looking at my tri color reflector with lust in his heart. I told him, "Put down the screwdriver, back away from the machine, and nobody gets hurt.." :smiley:
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The mail girl just delivered more stuff. New stainless valves <shrug> why not? and more decals. Two more decals, and I'll have them all.
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I love it when a plan comes together.
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https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/5530405947.html
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Nice way to start the afternoon before going out to see about putting individual choke levers on my Monza or more likely (since the Monza still has the original pig of an airbox that takes up all available space and then some) putting the individual choke levers on the V50 (with K&Ns) and transferring the choke/enrichener assembly over to the Monza. Lever there is worn out, PITA for cold starting.
So were the day-go stripes standard or just lifted from a Le Mans?
agoldfish/Chris -- nice! Looks even smaller with the round light and flyscreen. Is that off the Racer? What are the mufflers from? And who has crash bars? I'd prefer those to head guards but haven't seen any.
Ok, lunch done, wrenching time!
cr
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So were the day-go stripes standard or just lifted from a Le Mans?
I *think* they were standard. I was looking for the day glo stripes for the Lario last winter, and a fellow antiquer sent me a pair along with the Monza stripes. I didn't know what they were, and he told me they were for the Monza. Fred knows his stuff, so I imagine he knows what he's talking about.
Of course, Kurtis's lovely restoration has them.
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It looks like a nice, clean, unmollested Monza. Good score. Wise move on the valves too. Just don't overdo it Chuck. We don't want all your gizzards dropping out through over-enthusiasm.
Pete
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It looks like a nice, clean, unmollested Monza. Good score. Wise move on the valves too. Just don't overdo it Chuck. We don't want all your gizzards dropping out through over-enthusiasm.
Pete
Thanks, Pete.. I *did* over do a little today. Even had an "outing." Old people have those.. :smiley: we went out to eat for the first time. First gorgeous day of the year.
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Talk to me about those valves!! You didn't...?? No way an antiquer would do what I think you did.
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That is a beautiful bike Chuck.
Twice in the last year I have seen one in town going the other way, wish I could catch up the owner one day and find out the history of it.
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Their a lovely bike to ride, had mine out last Sunday for a couple of hundred K's.
You need to keep up with the leg squats if your not riding it much :grin:
Dan
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lovely bike!
this one has really been loved by previous owners.
if you change the valves, change the valve springs too to the new single springs.
with a little efford and a small file they can be fitted using the original retainers
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Their a lovely bike to ride, had mine out last Sunday for a couple of hundred K's.
You need to keep up with the leg squats if your not riding it much :grin:
Dan
Thanks, Dan.. I've posted here before that when I was just a young lad in my 60s that I was getting too old for sport bikes. I thought I was in pretty good shape for an old guy, but a personal trainer thought otherwise. :smiley:
He said, "your core strength sucks. I'll have you back on sport bikes and bicycles in no time."
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger :shocked: :smiley: but he was right. I need to get back to the exercise regimen as soon as the cutter lets me.
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Chuck when he lets you, start spending some of your great workshop time with the bike bench on a low setting and work squating on you haunches. It does wonders as a "hidden" excersise.
Dan
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Kurtis, I hope you sold her for a lot of money. She is a beauty.
DDog,$4500 seems to stick in my head. That was probably about 20 years ago though. I had sold it to Peter and Nancy McNulty who I believe may have been the New Jersey Reps back then. Does anyone here know them and have any idea if they still have that
Monza, and if not, where it ended up?
I see the Washington DC one is posted at that. It appears to be a little bit more worn than Chuck's and so Chuck, I think you stole that one. I think you owe Brad that tri-color reflector, but who am I to get in the middle of someone else's family affairs?
Chuck, thanks for posting the pics. I do not see any of the day glow stickers on the other pictures posted in this post yet. Wonder if they all had them or not now, but I do no that the factory couldn't make the paint stick to the plastic fairing and so I wonder if most or all of them had been repainted at some point. Once the paint has been removed, you'll notice that the plastic is like glass. i.e. high glass fill properties. Not sure where you found the day glow stickers, but at least now you'll be proper. I had mentioned to you over the phone about the headlight. My fuzzy memory is now thinking that the proper one that was made to fit the fairing and seal properly in the gasket may have been a match to a LeMans III. May want to look into it. I see in Charley's pics that that one does not have one and not many people knew about the fact that there was another Guzzi one stateside that would fit right.
Have a nice day(glow)!
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Great photos Chuck and Kurtis, Chris and Charlie!
So were the day-go stripes standard or just lifted from a Le Mans?
The original owner's manual has a picture showing the stripes on the Monza, but not the V35 Imola. Mine has the day-glo stripes and bubbling black decals so must be original. :boozing:
Charlie, Your customer should have you install a fork brace - it really changes the feeling of those spindly forks. (my mtn bike has the same size fork legs!) I got mine from Fast from the Past for less than $120. But don't go by the application - measure the forks (Monza either doesn't show up or it's too big). I got 30-0014 for a Benelli 125 sport and still needed 0.010" shim stock to clamp to the legs correctly. Pretty sure that is the smallest they make. http://www.fastfromthepast.com/fork-braces
A couple more - though they've been posted here before.
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:bike-037: Fun!
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Great photos Chuck and Kurtis, Chris and Charlie!
The original owner's manual has a picture showing the stripes on the Monza, but not the V35 Imola. Mine has the day-glo stripes and bubbling black decals so must be original. :boozing:
Charlie, Your customer should have you install a fork brace - it really changes the feeling of those spindly forks. (my mtn bike has the same size fork legs!) I got mine from Fast from the Past for less than $120. But don't go by the application - measure the forks (Monza either doesn't show up or it's too big). I got 30-0014 for a Benelli 125 sport and still needed 0.010" shim stock to clamp to the legs correctly. Pretty sure that is the smallest they make. http://www.fastfromthepast.com/fork-braces
"Betsy" has owned the one I posted photos of since new and told me it never had day-glo stripes. Also, I wonder why the two I've had here both had chrome exhausts and y'all's is black?
Jeffrey's Monza, 2008:
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Also, I wonder why the two I've had here both had chrome exhausts and y'all's is black?
The chrome pipes were scratched and had a scrape and I don't much like chrome so I had them powder coated.
Also removed the license bracket, shortened the rear fender and painted and the taillight it to match the top of the tank so that it looks a little more like the LeMons.
Weird about the orange - stripe. It shows in this brochure too:
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I'm thinking that the dayglo stickers were used as available. What's on the shelf, Luigi? Use that...
cr
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I'm thinking that the dayglo stickers were used as available. What's on the shelf, Luigi? Use that...
cr
Well, we *are* talking about Guzzi here. :smiley: Ya gotta love em..
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Talk to me about those valves!! You didn't...?? No way an antiquer would do what I think you did.
Just standard, although stainless, Monza valves. The Lario isn't the only old small block that would drop them. The Lario was just much better at it. :smiley: Guzzi changed to the progressively wound single spring, and that seemed to cure it. The modern small block's valve train is reliable.
It just seems to me that a preemptive strike is the logical thing to do. The new valves are cheap, and it's dead simple to change them out.
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Yeah, that is good porn! :thumb:
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Just standard, although stainless, Monza valves. The Lario isn't the only old small block that would drop them. The Lario was just much better at it. :smiley: Guzzi changed to the progressively wound single spring, and that seemed to cure it. The modern small block's valve train is reliable.
It just seems to me that a preemptive strike is the logical thing to do. The new valves are cheap, and it's dead simple to change them out.
For stock valves they sure look better quality than the stock Lario valves. Good on you at that mileage to get in there and see whatcha got going on and be done with it.
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My Monza came with the day glo orange as shown in the brochure, and was in that nice silver blue too.
The fairing paint bubbled, got it repainted and it bubbled again a few years later. When I repainted in in 1999 to white/black I didn't re-do the orange but I still have a spare set of those decals 'in stock'. In fact I have all of them so if you get stuck Chuck, let me know.
I also didn't do the tailpiece black stripes. Personal pref. Going to white meant it wasn't standard anymore anyway, so.....
Anyone repainting a Monza fairing (or all of it like I did), here's what I did. I took all of the plastic body bits, post-stripping and sanding, down to the bumper and grille repair specialists in the city I was in at the time. Got them to spray them all with their special primer which has an elastic compound in it and keys itself to plastic. When I got them back they got a light rub down then a coat of the primer for the paint system I was using on it. Then colour etc.
I didn't get or use the four black decal panels on the fairing, I just masked them out and did them in black paint while the tank was get its black etc. I was told to clear over the decals but I didn't because I didn't want to chance it considering my ability to spray clear. 16 years later they aren't peeling so take your chances.
Fast forward to today and the two pack Anzathane still looks good on the whole bike and the fairing has NO BUBBLES.
My bike is in the gallery (or was). I have no photobucket or host site that works with the pooter I use but if you want any pics, PM me.
Cheers Kev.
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I must add that Kev's Monzada looks very sharp indeed. Very pretty indeed in black and white. :thumb:
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I took my Monza out today for a back-roads boogie, still makes me smile.... :bike-037:
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I took my Monza out today for a back-roads boogie, still makes me smile.... :bike-037:
Glad to hear you testify, brother. :smiley:
Tomorrow I go back to the cutter. Maybe he'll give me the ok. Weather is perfect..I'm suffering. :evil: :boozing:
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Chuck
Good luck with the Doc.
Back in '00 I had back surgery in June. Was not allowed to lift or ride for 2 months. It was killing me not be able to do my normal routine...including working on my bikes, riding them - even doing my normal chores around the house.
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Well, since we are talking porn and day glo......
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Please forgive me for the NGC, but at least it is Italian!!!
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I might not ride my Monzada much these days, but I seriously doubt I will ever part with it! It's time for much more use is coming soon...! :thumb:
The best part of them is you approach a corner and think "I need to.......oh it's already responded and doing what I thought". Laugh if you like but it's that kind of machine, you think it along the road......
Yes the ride is not that great unless you are loaded up a bit or really pushing it, the forks are a bit spindly and the brakes are 80's performance... but it still is a nice place to be 27 years after first riding it.
You'll love it, Chuck.
Nice Mille there, Quota. Ducati finally built the bevel engine with a (plain bearing) bottom end worth having then they stopped making them! I used to know well a mechanic who specialised in Ducati, BMW and Guzzi. I lost count of the number of dead roller big ends he had on a shelf as a show of their reliability! Sitting on a 900 S2 when I was a young motorcyclist in 1983 was enough to convince me that owning an Italian motorcycle was in my future. I was surrounded by three workmates who all had Guzzi's so I was turned away from the dark side early on..... :evil:
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I might not ride my Monzada much these days, but I seriously doubt I will ever part with it! It's time for much more use is coming soon...! :thumb:
The best part of them is you approach a corner and think "I need to.......oh it's already responded and doing what I thought". Laugh if you like but it's that kind of machine, you think it along the road......
Yes the ride is not that great unless you are loaded up a bit or really pushing it, the forks are a bit spindly and the brakes are 80's performance... but it still is a nice place to be 27 years after first riding it.
Cure these items on any of the older sb's and you'll truly be amazed... and I'm not talking "you have to race it to notice". As soon as you get to the end of the driveway you'll realize.
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Yeah..... you're right. I know.
I have a period Motomecca fork brace, given to me (thank you, Larry) , fits perfectly and makes a noticeable difference. But the forks are 'period' too.
I could put a set of modern upside down forks on it with demon brakes, only to find it highlights the age of everything else. To avoid being charged with offenses under the Law of Diminishing Returns I will stop at the fork brace stage and ride my bike as is, where is.... :grin:
(Also in the mix is that I have a few toys but not unlimited income. I can't afford to really do all I want, but am happy with what I have. I can live with that, it's more than many people have).
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Yeah..... you're right. I know.
I have a period Motomecca fork brace, given to me (thank you, Larry) , fits perfectly and makes a noticeable difference. But the forks are 'period' too.
I could put a set of modern upside down forks on it with demon brakes, only to find it highlights the age of everything else. To avoid being charged with offenses under the Law of Diminishing Returns I will stop at the fork brace stage and ride my bike as is, where is.... :grin:
(Also in the mix is that I have a few toys but not unlimited income. I can't afford to really do all I want, but am happy with what I have. I can live with that, it's more than many people have).
I've mentioned that to the dawg more than once. :smiley: I had a Mark III at one time with a sacked front end. You could feel the forks flex depending on whether you were using the front brake or the brake pedal. :evil: I didn't particularly care for the riding position.. I'm a sporty bike guy.. so I sold it, but I'll bet I could have made that front end decent with springs, damper, and fork brace.
My new to me Monza has all those and (probably) HH pads. The Kid is an x racer and *knows* his stuff. He told me I'd love it.
I'll bet he's right. :smiley:
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Well Chuck you are probly back from the docs and are out shredding asphalt and tires, right?
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Well Chuck you are probly back from the docs and are out shredding asphalt and tires, right?
Naa, I have a late appointment. It'll be o dark thirty before we get back from Indy..
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Great Thread. Hope you get good news from the cutter, so you can ride this to dinner Sunday. Best o' luck.
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Here's hoping it's good news...the next pic needs to be of you riding that sexy Monza!
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Well, the man said, "I wouldn't take off on a 300 mile trip, get there, and decide you didn't feel like riding back.. but sure, go ahead. :smiley: The best thing he said was "PSA is a terrible test when you have a prostate, but once you don't.. it's the best. Your PSA is zero."
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Now, to start building my strength back up. Thanks to all that have sent cards, called, posted on WG, etc. It's meant a lot.
Gotta love Guzzi Guys and Girls.
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great news Chuck now get out and enjoy the nice weather...
Mark
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Well, it was cool this morning, so Winter gear was called for. I wasn't waiting for it to warm up.. :smiley:
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It started the first roll over, naturally.. Dyna S and carbs. (Beetle content) :wink:
Impressions:
It's little. The engine is a sweetheart. Front and rear suspension is firm but well damped. Brakes are typical linked brakes. The front needs a heavy hand. Probably new pads are in order. The riding position was much less "dedicated" than I expected. Even with my healing stomach muscles, I had no problem whatsoever keeping weight off the bars. Just enough smooth air to hold me up. :thumb: There are no twisties in Indiana.. the best we can do is follow a river, so I did that. Effortless. I don't care for the 404s, though. Pre ride, I checked them at 33 front, 36 rear. Much too high on the front. I though maybe the previous guy ran them that hard to keep it from plowing because it was oversize. When I came in, they were 34 front and 39 rear. I'll go with my standard 28F 35R the next time out and check them again. That said, they felt pretty hard.
Am I happy with it? Oh, yeah. A guy would have to really have to work to find a better balanced early 80s motorcycle. I could see myself riding this bike well into my 90s. :smiley:
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Marvelous! Good to see it being ridden...by you!
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Pleased you are pleased :thumb:
It really is a 'think it and it does it' kinda machine.
Those crash bars are more protective than they look. I seriously tested mine some years ago and while it smashed the fairing, headlight, mirrors, fairing blade, indicators, removed the left muffler and bent the gear lever, it saved the tank and even the plug cap. Stood the bike up, bolted the muffler on, rearranged a few bits and removed others, managed to carry on to my destination and home. Tough crash bars. they moved back about 3/4" but held up well.
Hella used to make a generic headlight shell that is a bit more rounded and has curved side edges that fits the contours of the fairing a bit better than the sharp square ones fitted on US bikes I've seen pics of. Will do some research to see if they still make them and pass that on. They just look a bit nicer IMHO.
Different part number now but this is pretty much what I got.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Hella/Headlight/W0133-1619288.html
I made a simple rectangular flat ally mounting frame for it to slip into, then used d/s foam tape on the flat top and bottom parts of the shell. Two holes either side for two small angle brackets and then you have adjustable up/down. Mounts to existing headlight mounts.
My seat cover ripped due age, I just got it recovered using patterned vinyl and after a week you can't even remember there was a difference. The originals go at the highly loaded point just where your thighs go over the edge and over a seam.
I have never run air in the forks, they seemed hard enough empty! I had to relay all my lights a few years ago because the voltage drop around their circuits due age was getting too much. Simple wiring job that makes a difference for sure.
Glad to see another one loved :smiley:
Kev.
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Good news! And that looks like a very well cared for bike. I'm sure it'll only get better :-)
..... I could see myself riding this bike well into my 90s. :smiley:
After that, maybe a Cali? :grin:
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Fantastic news on the results Chuck! Looking cool on that Monza!
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Here are my old Monzas :thumb:
Around 1988, my V50II and Monza
(By the way, paid £300 and £600 for them, those were the days!)
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Around 1994, the Monza. Paid £600 for that one and added used Kawasaki GT 550 air shocks that improved the ride
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Guzzi156/17A53AB2-57A5-4DC1-96E8-84F1247D7A7B_zps9st4f3ln.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/Guzzi156/media/17A53AB2-57A5-4DC1-96E8-84F1247D7A7B_zps9st4f3ln.jpg.html)
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Hella used to make a generic headlight shell that is a bit more rounded and has curved side edges that fits the contours of the fairing a bit better than the sharp square ones fitted on US bikes I've seen pics of. Will do some research to see if they still make them and pass that on. They just look a bit nicer IMHO.
This one has a Hella headlight in it. I haven't had the fairing off to see if it has relays hidden somewhere. Just received notification that my last decals are on the way, so I'll have all of them, now.. if and when I decide to do a total restoration.
One question. On the Lario, all the "motive unit" was painted. On this, only the swing arm is painted. Is that correct?
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Good news! And that looks like a very well cared for bike. I'm sure it'll only get better :-)
After that, maybe a Cali? :grin:
Naa.. I'm not a cruiser kind of guy. Maybe by then some 200 lb. electric sport bike? :smiley:
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Fantastic news on the results Chuck! Looking cool on that Monza!
"Uh huh.. Uh huh.. Yeah..we bad.." :smiley:
Oh, that movie was probably before your time.
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(By the way, paid �300 and �600 for them, those were the days!)
Like the $500 Eldo in the barn. Just put gas in it and go.. those days are gone.
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One question. On the Lario, all the "motive unit" was painted. On this, only the swing arm is painted. Is that correct?
That's the way all three Monzas I've worked on were - only the swingarm was painted.
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That's the way all three Monzas I've worked on were - only the swingarm was painted.
Thanks, Charlie.. it appeared to be that way from the pictures I've been looking at. Kind of strange, but after all we're talking about Guzzi here. :smiley:
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Yep, only the swingarm is painted on all (4 or 5) Monzas I've seen. The Hella light I have is 984 99040 044. Leaflet inside says "motorcycle light pattern, not for use in cars". Simple plug and play but I had the (Electrical Connection) relay kit already.
I was riding mine Sunday and then came home to check carb synch as I had to pull the carbs to install individual choke levers. Still have the stock airbox but jetting is spot-on so don't mess with it... Got that done, wasn't far out, and then time for a ride!
Hit starter button, nothing. Check starter relay, same as adjacent flasher relay. Both OK. Gotta be the switch. Disassemble and there's a wire hanging off in space, remnant of crimp attached. Other wire was soldered in by a previous victim. Today's project is to try to fix that. Price is right! Alternatives are around $100 so I'll go with cheap. Legendary Guzzi switchgear, ugh.
Monzas *are* small and light. This is good! And, Chuck, good to see you up and about.
cr
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Some great photos on here guys which i've been watching with an avid interest, here are a couple of (admittedly poor) pics of my Monza* on the way back from work this evening
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0fs0LpWyCoqcfb_pbNPrb-VqXudquU5l4Ntnhk29T7Tqbk0tQfNK700hUg9bd3rjoxB7lc3ACtJxe7YByBzUYHoyAYhYCJnRMsWU5xut-w0-5p_j4A-WwoQ8ML4_avq4HeO6VPzy8DDfTcxiRipvVRQJLiVhFCclDL24hmjXSV5tjtdh9c6fF8u2OYefyRQIZ7QA-X5qAeqpQdJNJe526VFo0u4Tq-2L8e4PIa-m-7eRMfS2bh4xLIbTmCbGjTOUxt04Cnn1lK14PwLo72cTJ4FehdHJ_k4JkF1chvTBRVnt0LizeyBLXXXUsbbgIis36NJPhGFy6P6tT4su4BPNxSqPIIJIO9H4klxIzwSS-JuIa8bUwquHFmLq-5rnzf-JIIonIb_8wOI2I5VQYkey4oAGigMP0mtrxS-RuGuhRgrjuh3TynvyRjrVz3Ou3BMLWsO8zGKak5GftzD-_TamrVJ0WWykA9pmKuTodlH7QBvINMVDShiqdWL2Ly0F39b_eZMlh8mdUH1oKNiEHztbaCM_ViNZpDdHVDn6FXiEN28a8ihTCtn8J9kMB4JOEx0=w1143-h791-no)
*subject to me not cocking up uploading them...
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Looks great with the LM fairing and round headlight. What happened to the original?
cr
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Here are my old Monzas :thumb:
Around 1988, my V50II and Monza
(By the way, paid �300 and �600 for them, those were the days!)
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Guzzi156/A11E1BAC-629A-4735-9BCF-628DF87F64B3_zpsqhtm7eqj.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/Guzzi156/media/A11E1BAC-629A-4735-9BCF-628DF87F64B3_zpsqhtm7eqj.jpg.html)
Around 1994, the Monza. Paid �600 for that one and added used Kawasaki GT 550 air shocks that improved the ride
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Guzzi156/17A53AB2-57A5-4DC1-96E8-84F1247D7A7B_zps9st4f3ln.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/Guzzi156/media/17A53AB2-57A5-4DC1-96E8-84F1247D7A7B_zps9st4f3ln.jpg.html)
PS. Between 1989-1994 moved back to Canada and bought a Rickman BSA Rocket III. Soon realized that I did not enjoy it has much as the Monza and bought another Monza after I moved back to the UK in'94. So much for exotica, that BSA engine was not that powerful, whatever they said.. I had been a courier on the blue Monza and that thing took a beating!
Btw, paid $2000 for the Rickman in 1990 (in Ottawa), sold it in for $5800 in 1999 (in London) :boozing:
The moral: be careful what you wish for!
(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j213/Guzzi156/20080323001.jpg) (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/Guzzi156/media/20080323001.jpg.html)
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Looks great with the LM fairing and round headlight. What happened to the original?
cr
It had a twin cibie fairing by Sprint Manufacturing when i first had it, one of the mounting brackets broke and it all weighed quite a bit so I decided it was time for a change.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/g69UZJvzHP6OzIAu2ruykNnNgofd1no0DGS2fbGSNFKQ8cO1T3-V5ITCclG0SrKP0Cpird-n2Em9FpYF9BtMjkODodnDxdQY7frpYQ7fVcgImGyLTOrMPdzM_x82eFy6DrO8H2Z780LXWEDKrBHEBFZ2B9r11sUpOaD1AQi6T-RIaA3EMZmRpHgb9gDvS8C6897bVEFby067Vs328rSkiPbLZil0XvvVxUAHD2VcM02gkjVF6BSyQWkFaieDF3zwei7XbZOFdBa1HKb6aXldAi2HtVie6vOzteQ-u_XRJ_ow1vYQKD9fdm6Tfo6s31IkVYu2kTwBK0u1XSfQw_o1aoT2Mxv5RrGpxuZYZTgPjmIpHjJ2_TsueUXqLs_1aXyjO6QbLfvm4fKX7X5nsJaMHzEDlSjiiJdYwhLGcd0uKAAeq52c9EI9WRYV00n6fsCb9aCjYC68H4jLQNeqMvsmIEJmilvCUri6124SJHtx5qecnmxaAKNcfu_BJ4WYanWK0x5Kz4s644dRyztnXMc_o9Gjhkyo-8twI5UvYunwVW0_S7ygAH6TeUj54GVnDgI=w723-h791-no)
Hope you get many more rides on yours soon Chuck.
Cheers, Dan
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It had a twin cibie fairing by Sprint Manufacturing when i first had it, one of the mounting brackets broke and it all weighed quite a bit so I decided it was time for a change.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/g69UZJvzHP6OzIAu2ruykNnNgofd1no0DGS2fbGSNFKQ8cO1T3-V5ITCclG0SrKP0Cpird-n2Em9FpYF9BtMjkODodnDxdQY7frpYQ7fVcgImGyLTOrMPdzM_x82eFy6DrO8H2Z780LXWEDKrBHEBFZ2B9r11sUpOaD1AQi6T-RIaA3EMZmRpHgb9gDvS8C6897bVEFby067Vs328rSkiPbLZil0XvvVxUAHD2VcM02gkjVF6BSyQWkFaieDF3zwei7XbZOFdBa1HKb6aXldAi2HtVie6vOzteQ-u_XRJ_ow1vYQKD9fdm6Tfo6s31IkVYu2kTwBK0u1XSfQw_o1aoT2Mxv5RrGpxuZYZTgPjmIpHjJ2_TsueUXqLs_1aXyjO6QbLfvm4fKX7X5nsJaMHzEDlSjiiJdYwhLGcd0uKAAeq52c9EI9WRYV00n6fsCb9aCjYC68H4jLQNeqMvsmIEJmilvCUri6124SJHtx5qecnmxaAKNcfu_BJ4WYanWK0x5Kz4s644dRyztnXMc_o9Gjhkyo-8twI5UvYunwVW0_S7ygAH6TeUj54GVnDgI=w723-h791-no)
Hope you get many more rides on yours soon Chuck.
Cheers, Dan
Thank you, Dan.. and thanks for more Monza porn. :) This thread has the most Monzas I've ever seen. Think I'll go ride my new old Monza, now that you mention it.
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Went out to set up the sag and foot controls on the Monza today. It's the first time I've had the two small blocks sitting side by side, and the size of the engine is striking. Seems like even more than in the pix..
Monza
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1703/26284943720_96b82772c9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/G3Hd1Q)2-004 (https://flic.kr/p/G3Hd1Q) by Charles Stottlemyer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/107188298@N06/), on Flickr
Aero Lario
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1605/26465494462_a72fecbdc9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GjEzsE)1-003 (https://flic.kr/p/GjEzsE) by Charles Stottlemyer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/107188298@N06/), on Flickr
Which do I like better? Dunno. <shrug> :smiley:
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My tech manuals have the Monza coming in wider and longer than the Lario (slight). The rear pic of the Lario is tough to beat as I like the tank shape (much like the LM from that perspective) along with the cylinders showing more prominently. From the side there's no contest as the Monza gets the nod big time.
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My tech manuals have the Monza coming in wider and longer than the Lario (slight). The rear pic of the Lario is tough to beat as I like the tank shape (much like the LM from that perspective) along with the cylinders showing more prominently. From the side there's no contest as the Monza gets the nod big time.
I feel the same way, dawg. The Monza is definitely longer. As soon as the Kid unloaded it I had him push it unto the van to see if it would fit. Just barely. :smiley: The Lario has room to spare. Dunno about the width, the Lario "feels" narrower because of the front of the seat/tank intersection being narrower. Both fit me like a glove, though. I'm eye talian sized. :smiley: