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Title: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 17, 2016, 04:07:04 PM
The odometer moved to the lower part of the LED screen and now I get Trip 1 or Trip 2 miles where the odometer display was (big black area). Gas tank filled, can't move odometer back? What the heck happened?  :violent1:
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: PJPR01 on April 17, 2016, 05:52:53 PM
Push the large button sideways like you do to get to trip 1 or 2 but hold it for about 5 seconds and It will change back, keep holding until it goes back to the original menu
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 17, 2016, 09:35:10 PM
Not working? 

Thanks for the tip...
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 18, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
Push the large button sideways like you do to get to trip 1 or 2 but hold it for about 5 seconds and It will change back, keep holding until it goes back to the original menu

Just goes to trip 1, trip 2 or mode?
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: JeffOlson on April 18, 2016, 08:55:00 AM
How far away is your dealer? If it is an easy ride, I would swing by the shop and have them look at it. Otherwise, I would call them while you are at your bike so they can try to walk you through it and confirm that there is indeed a problem (if there is a problem).

The Norge button is a bit odd to use. It requires an unusually firm push in and (while holding it in) slide to the side. You will feel an odd click when it works right. My Vespa mode button is far easier to use (just push in momentarily to cycle through and push and hold to reset), but it has far fewer display options than the Norge
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 18, 2016, 11:40:29 AM
How far away is your dealer? If it is an easy ride, I would swing by the shop and have them look at it. Otherwise, I would call them while you are at your bike so they can try to walk you through it and confirm that there is indeed a problem (if there is a problem).

The Norge button is a bit odd to use. It requires an unusually firm push in and (while holding it in) slide to the side. You will feel an odd click when it works right. My Vespa mode button is far easier to use (just push in momentarily to cycle through and push and hold to reset), but it has far fewer display options than the Norge

Thanks, sounds like the best thing is to swing by the dealer (15 minute drive).  :boozing:
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Zoom Zoom on April 18, 2016, 12:03:17 PM
Sounds to me like a cracked spark plug boot. My Stelvio did something similar.

ZZ
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 18, 2016, 01:19:46 PM
Sounds to me like a cracked spark plug boot. My Stelvio did something similar.

ZZ

Interesting, I'm not really understanding but, valves were just adjusted not long ago by dealer?
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: JeffOlson on April 18, 2016, 01:23:26 PM
Interesting, I'm not really understanding but, valves were just adjusted not long ago by dealer?

The stock spark plug caps and wires are rubbish and should be replaced ASAP as a preventative measure. Otherwise, they are prone to a bad connection, creating all kinds of interesting electrical problems (e.g., arcing to ground, a cylinder not firing, etc.)
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Wayne Orwig on April 18, 2016, 01:46:54 PM
Interesting, I'm not really understanding but, valves were just adjusted not long ago by dealer?

It was common on the early Stelvios for a spark plug boot to crack, and the arcing could cause enough RFI to make the dash display nutty things.
Yours doesn't really sound like that, but I might be worth a try to disconnect the ground on the battery for a couple of minutes to see if that straightens it out.
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 18, 2016, 04:49:30 PM
Good idea?

Had my 1,000 mile service done around 600 miles. I see the 'wrench' is displayed now. Can't access 'diagnostics', looks like that area is for dealers only. My question now is, if I do my own service, how do I reset the 'wrench'?

PETE!  :boozing:
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: beetle on April 18, 2016, 06:20:45 PM
Norge service code: 28315
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: ITSec on April 18, 2016, 08:07:30 PM
A couple people have supplied the code, but haven't told you how to use it.

With the bike's ignition on but the engine NOT running, press AND HOLD the MODE switch until you see the display change to CHRONO instead of TRIP1 or TRIP2. Release the switch, then press it again WITHOUT HOLDING IT until the display shows MENU. Press the MODE switch IN and hold it until it presents a menu of selections at the bottom of the display. Use the MODE switch to scroll down until DIAGNOSTICS is highlighted. Press the MODE switch IN and hold it until the display changes - it will prompt you for the code (28315). Press the MODE switch right twice to change the first digit to 2, then press it in to move to the next digit. Repeat until you have entered all five digits; when you enter the final one, the ECU will accept it and will present a hidden menu. Scroll through this menu until you see the selection to reset the service indicator. With that highlighted, press the MODE switch IN and hold it until you are prompted to confirm your choice. Scroll until YES is highlighted, and press IN  and hold again to confirm that you want a reset. Once accepted, you will be returned to the selection menu. Scroll through each menu to EXIT, press IN and hold to select, and repeat as necessary to get out of this, and return to where you can select the standard display readings.
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: fotoguzzi on April 18, 2016, 08:27:44 PM
A couple people have supplied the code, but haven't told you how to use it.

With the bike's ignition on but the engine NOT running, press AND HOLD the MODE switch until you see the display change to CHRONO instead of TRIP1 or TRIP2. Release the switch, then press it again WITHOUT HOLDING IT until the display shows MENU. Press the MODE switch IN and hold it until it presents a menu of selections at the bottom of the display. Use the MODE switch to scroll down until DIAGNOSTICS is highlighted. Press the MODE switch IN and hold it until the display changes - it will prompt you for the code (28315). Press the MODE switch right twice to change the first digit to 2, then press it in to move to the next digit. Repeat until you have entered all five digits; when you enter the final one, the ECU will accept it and will present a hidden menu. Scroll through this menu until you see the selection to reset the service indicator. With that highlighted, press the MODE switch IN and hold it until you are prompted to confirm your choice. Scroll until YES is highlighted, and press IN  and hold again to confirm that you want a reset. Once accepted, you will be returned to the selection menu. Scroll through each menu to EXIT, press IN and hold to select, and repeat as necessary to get out of this, and return to where you can select the standard display readings.
now you know more than your "dealer"
Thanks, sounds like the best thing is to swing by the dealer (15 minute drive).  :boozing:
If you trust them..
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Waltr on April 18, 2016, 10:20:25 PM
The wrench will display at  programmed milage intervals. If it is not displayed at time of service there is no way to stop it by telling the service was performed.
Messed up but no way around it, I always tell people to expect it and is they don't want to fool with is just stop back  when they get a chance.
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: pete roper on April 19, 2016, 12:13:52 AM
I thought you could reset it any time. Shows how much I know! :evil:

Pete
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Kiwi Dave on April 19, 2016, 12:36:43 AM
If you have heated grips, when activated the trip mileage will move down on the display to accommodate the heated grips symbol.

But it sounds to me that your dashboard has issues.
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 19, 2016, 07:18:43 AM
Norge service code: 28315

Brilliant, thanks.  :bow:
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 19, 2016, 07:20:14 AM
now you know more than your "dealer"If you trust them..

Not so sure of their knowledge regarding Guzzi's.
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Zoom Zoom on April 21, 2016, 05:25:43 AM
Just curious if you have had a chance to dig into this any more?

John Henry
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 21, 2016, 05:09:35 PM
Well, maybe I'm just an idiot. Is ODO suppose to read at the bottom of the display (small display) or in the middle surrounded by the black rectangle (large display)?
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: ITSec on April 21, 2016, 06:37:51 PM
Well, maybe I'm just an idiot. Is ODO suppose to read at the bottom of the display (small display) or in the middle surrounded by the black rectangle (large display)?

Well, on my Norge the full ODO has always been at the bottom, and has never appeared anywhere else. The TRIP displays move when the heated grips are activated, and return to their normal location when the grips are turned off. After 5 years I still occasionally discover something new about the dash display, so I accept that your description may be possible - but I've never seen it.  :gotpics:
Title: Re: Norge - Odometer Mileage Display
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 22, 2016, 08:13:22 AM
Well, on my Norge the full ODO has always been at the bottom, and has never appeared anywhere else. The TRIP displays move when the heated grips are activated, and return to their normal location when the grips are turned off. After 5 years I still occasionally discover something new about the dash display, so I accept that your description may be possible - but I've never seen it.  :gotpics:

Ok, sounds like I shut off the heated grips and the TRIP moved?