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Title: Prince Found Dead
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 21, 2016, 12:29:40 PM
http://www.eonline.com/news/758746/prince-found-dead-singer-and-pop-icon-was-57
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Post by: Nic in Western NYS on April 21, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
I never felt I could catch up with his music.  He was always so far ahead I could just admire.  I always hoped he, like John Lennon, would create music into old age.  What a loss.
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Post by: screamday on April 21, 2016, 12:36:53 PM
Wow
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Post by: Sheepdog on April 21, 2016, 01:01:23 PM
Sad. Godspeed...
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Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 21, 2016, 01:03:37 PM
Just saw that on FB!, major bummer! A great innovator in rock. Always wanted to see him in concert
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Post by: rodekyll on April 21, 2016, 01:03:48 PM
Music will never recover from his influence.
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Post by: lucian on April 21, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
Sad deal, definitely a talented musician, kinda like Bowie he was out there, but in a good way. A can remember a super bowl 1/2 time performance when he nailed it. Like Jimmy Vaughn sang in his tribute to his brother,

 " Heaven done called, another blues singer back home"   


I think I'll go for a ride now, the paint brush I've been pushing all morning doesn't seem that important any more.  RIP Prince   
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Post by: kirkemon on April 21, 2016, 01:06:56 PM
I thought he did the best Super Bowl Halftime show ever!
R.I.P.
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Post by: Triple Jim on April 21, 2016, 01:22:07 PM
According to that article, "He was very religious and adamant about not taking any sort of medication."  It would be a shame if that's what killed him.
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Post by: pikipiki on April 21, 2016, 01:37:55 PM
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/purple-rain-at-30-preview-the-definitive-book-on-princes-hit-film-20140725/20140725-purplerain-x624-1406305285.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: rocker59 on April 21, 2016, 02:02:31 PM
According to that article, "He was very religious and adamant about not taking any sort of medication."  It would be a shame if that's what killed him.

I don't know.  I'm not big on medication, either, and take as little as possible.

I'm sure more details will emerge soon, as to the cause(s) of his passing.
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Post by: zedXmick on April 21, 2016, 02:23:23 PM
"Life is just a party,and parties weren't meant to last"  So much talent. R.I.P. 
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: ITSec on April 21, 2016, 02:27:01 PM
The Artist Formerly Known to Have Talent....

I was an absolute fan of the early years, but somewhere around 'Purple Rain' I started losing connection with his work. An indelible stamp on the 80s, much of it through others' recordings of his work.
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: Triple Jim on April 21, 2016, 02:32:12 PM
I don't know.  I'm not big on medication, either, and take as little as possible.

Taking as little as possible and adamant about not taking any sort are not the same.  I avoid unnecessary medication too, but I can tell you that a few years ago when I got Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, I was happy to take Doxycycline, rather than risk death.  I maintain that I hope Prince didn't die, rather than take a medication that could have saved his life, that's all.
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Post by: ponti_33609 on April 21, 2016, 02:45:54 PM
Medications are a funny thing.  Many of them will kill you if taken over a prolonged period of time.  The trick is to time it and only start taking them at the point at which they will prolong your life while at the same time you die naturally before the medicine is what kills you. 

My dad is a pharmacist.  My wife and I are mid 50's and are not on any prescription medication.  I think my dad says something like we are in the 5% minority of the population at our age.  So if I need to take cholesterol meds at 60 to prolong my life that is probably okay as it will take till I am ~85 before they will kill me and that is about the time I will be leaving anyway so in this scenario it makes sense.   :wink:



Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: fotoguzzi on April 21, 2016, 02:48:13 PM
Our newsroom is buzzing like a bee hive.. we are feeding live video around the world..
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: rocker59 on April 21, 2016, 02:57:15 PM
Taking as little as possible and adamant about not taking any sort are not the same.  I avoid unnecessary medication too, but I can tell you that a few years ago when I got Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, I was happy to take Doxycycline, rather than risk death.  I maintain that I hope Prince didn't die, rather than take a medication that could have saved his life, that's all.

Prince was said to have had the flu in the past few weeks.  After reading that, I was thinking pneumonia may have gotten him.

Then I read his prophetic words to a crowd last week, "Wait a few days before you waste any prayers", has me wondering if he had cancer or some other terminal disease that had not been previously disclosed to the public.

I guess we'll hear soon enough.
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Post by: rocker59 on April 21, 2016, 02:58:44 PM
Our newsroom is buzzing like a bee hive.. we are feeding live video around the world..

I'll bet !!!
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Post by: Cool Runnings on April 21, 2016, 03:27:58 PM
According to that article, "He was very religious and adamant about not taking any sort of medication."  It would be a shame if that's what killed him.

Steve Jobs.....
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Post by: ITSec on April 21, 2016, 04:26:26 PM
I don't know.  I'm not big on medication, either, and take as little as possible.

I'm sure more details will emerge soon, as to the cause(s) of his passing.

Prince was reportedly a Jehovah's Witness, and his choices regarding medication would have reflected that set of beliefs. He had evidently declined earlier hip surgery due to the need for transfusions (forbidden by the religion), and some Witnesses express a strong reliance on faith over medicine in healing.
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Post by: keener on April 21, 2016, 04:31:40 PM
he was an excellent Guitar player ...one of the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y&index=3&list=PL8cFaF2b783Ls-_n2LcW25VzdHXJphxSx

about 3.30 on the vid   great rendition
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: fotoguzzi on April 21, 2016, 06:00:28 PM
Our newsroom is buzzing like a bee hive.. we are feeding live video around the world..
wall to wall coverage from noon to 5pm with NO COMMERCIALS !  took nerve cause that is a lot of revenue.
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: rocker59 on April 21, 2016, 06:02:18 PM
Prince was reportedly a Jehovah's Witness, and his choices regarding medication would have reflected that 

Yep
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: LowRyter on April 21, 2016, 06:07:11 PM
I was hearing in the news today that all that name change business, "The Artist Formerly Known...."  was not about vanity or publicity but an attempt to get control over his likeness, name, and music from the record company.

I salute the guy and my opinion of him has increased immensely.  Of course his musical talent was just incredible.  He was also unselfish and allowed so many singers and musicians to take the spotlight. 

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Post by: Kev m on April 21, 2016, 06:09:19 PM
Prince was reportedly a Jehovah's Witness, and his choices regarding medication would have reflected that set of beliefs. He had evidently declined earlier hip surgery due to the need for transfusions (forbidden by the religion), and some Witnesses express a strong reliance on faith over medicine in healing.

If that played a role it would be similar to Bob Marley, who as a Rastafarian refused an amputation of his big toe when stricken with melanoma that would have saved his life.
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Post by: Triple Jim on April 21, 2016, 06:10:53 PM
I was hearing in the news today that all that name change business, "The Artist Formerly Known...."  was not about vanity or publicity but an attempt to get control over his likeness, name, and music from the record company.

Similar to Famous Amos and Uncle Noname cookies then.
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: ITSec on April 21, 2016, 06:32:54 PM
I was hearing in the news today that all that name change business, "The Artist Formerly Known...."  was not about vanity or publicity but an attempt to get control over his likeness, name, and music from the record company.

I salute the guy and my opinion of him has increased immensely.  Of course his musical talent was just incredible.  He was also unselfish and allowed so many singers and musicians to take the spotlight.

That was certainly true, and good reason to give him his props. Unfortunately, it also took focus (his, the record company's, and the public's) away from his work. It was a worthy battle that ended up doing no one any good...
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Post by: drums4money on April 21, 2016, 06:33:46 PM
he was an excellent Guitar player ...one of the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y&index=3&list=PL8cFaF2b783Ls-_n2LcW25VzdHXJphxSx

about 3.30 on the vid   great rendition

That's one of the heaviest guitar solos ever.  I've been in the music manufacturing & performance world for most of my adult life, and Prince has long been a sleeping giant of guitar players.  This video's a perfect example of how he could level most any room.  I love the end of the clip where he just tosses the Tele up in the air & walks out from under it. 

I won't claim to be a lifelong fan.  Some of his craft goes straight past me.  But there's no denying he was a brilliant talent - musician, producer, and performer.  He was a genius self-taught musician. . .and I'm told a real challenging individual to work for.

It's rumored he's got enough material produced & ready to stretch for another generation or two.  I wouldn't doubt if he's ultimately regarded as the Brian Wilson of my generation for his seemingly complete mastery of instruments, production, and an insanely prolific output. 
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: Cool Runnings on April 21, 2016, 09:28:18 PM
wall to wall coverage from noon to 5pm with NO COMMERCIALS !  took nerve cause that is a lot of revenue.

Coachella Live (3 channels) for three day's...  :popcorn:
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Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on April 21, 2016, 09:51:39 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/s2048x2048/13041023_1187338231296928_5568268347660025901_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: DaSwami on April 21, 2016, 10:21:28 PM
I'm with ya'll, he did it his way and didn't imitate anybody.  A special artist.

But all this talk about squeaky clean..... they are now saying it might have been drugs.  That apparently was the cause of the emergency landing of his plane a few days ago.
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Post by: Arizona Wayne on April 21, 2016, 10:56:19 PM
If that played a role it would be similar to Bob Marley, who as a Rastafarian refused an amputation of his big toe when stricken with melanoma that would have saved his life.



My father was a Christian Scientist and they didn't believe in getting medical help when needed.  I believe they changed their name to Scientology.
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: ITSec on April 21, 2016, 11:02:50 PM
I'm with ya'll, he did it his way and didn't imitate anybody.  A special artist.

But all this talk about squeaky clean..... they are now saying it might have been drugs.  That apparently was the cause of the emergency landing of his plane a few days ago.

Well, the stay in a hospital after the plane landed was described as being for flu - and no source I can find has mentioned drugs. He canceled a concert due to illness prior to the emergency landing as well. When a musician dies unexpectedly, there's always somebody 'now saying it might have been drugs'. They said that about Mama Cass - but it was a sandwich (actually, even that wasn't true - it was a heart attack).

Heck, even now they aren't sure it was a heroin overdose that killed Jim Morrison - and he was a known user!
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Post by: DaSwami on April 21, 2016, 11:11:16 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3552300/Fatality-Prince-s-estate-Minnesota-days-musician-rushed-hospital.html

Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: ITSec on April 21, 2016, 11:13:39 PM

My father was a Christian Scientist and they didn't believe in getting medical help when needed.  I believe they changed their name to Scientology.


Despite the names, they actually have no relationship. Christian Science was a 'back to primitive Christianity' movement ties to a combination of the King James Bible and the writings of Mary Baker Eddy in the later half of the 1800s.

Scientology was created by L Ron Hubbard, a writer from the golden age of science fiction. There's a famous story that another writer confirmed to me as true - that L Ron came up with the movement after a night-long bull session that included Robert Heinlein. Heinlein reportedly said that the way to true power was to create your own religion - and L Ron Hubbard adopted the motto and executed on it. (Variations of this legend exist, but I heard this version from someone who was reportedly there.)

While Scientologists are aggressively antagonistic towards phychiatry and related sciences, they generally are not against traditional physical medicine.
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: ITSec on April 21, 2016, 11:20:37 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3552300/Fatality-Prince-s-estate-Minnesota-days-musician-rushed-hospital.html

While it's certainly possible that drugs were involved, neither the Daily Mail nor TMZ are reputable sources, particularly when neither can get even one attributable quote. I'll withhold further judgement till the autopsy is released.
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Post by: PJPR01 on April 21, 2016, 11:34:12 PM
A real pity...just a month ago it was Vanity, one of his ex-girlfriends, and now Prince himself...the dude was creative beyond belief...Purple Rain came out at a special time indeed...
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: DaSwami on April 21, 2016, 11:36:29 PM
TMZ first reported the death, they got that right.

What's wrong with the Daily Mail?  They seem to tell the truth about "us" that "our" corporate MSM never tells us. 

Put another way, what do you consider a "reputable source"?   Who was it that reported it was the "flu"? 

We are lied to all the time.  What was that quote about believing nothing you hear and half of what you see?

Autopsies / medical examiners lie too.

The fact is we likely will never know the truth and that changes nothing on the sadness of his passing. 

Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: Shorty on April 22, 2016, 12:06:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lmq6RDn5O8
Title: Re: Prince Found Dead
Post by: rocker59 on April 22, 2016, 12:07:58 AM
  what do you consider a "reputable source"?   

The coroner, who will be doing an autopsy sometime Friday.
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Post by: Huzo on April 22, 2016, 04:38:26 AM
Yeah I agree it's absolutely tragic, he did a lot for the music world. On the same topic, David Marshall died today as well in Australia, he worked tirelessly to raise money for cancer victims, and went about his work without fanfare, I don't think he lived in a multi million dollar mansion, he had to slum it in a '70's brick veneer, just thought I'd let you all know 'cos I don't think it made the news.
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Post by: bpreynolds on April 22, 2016, 05:57:09 AM
A large portion of popular music artists as they get older trade in their creative restlessness for just clocking in with new music that is either built on the same formula as their hits, hence the whole "I like their early stuff" cliche; yet, I dunno if Prince ever stopped pushing himself.  The drummer in his band is a girl from Louisville, actually.  When they played here I didn't catch the show but reportedly Prince gave her a big solo and sendup.
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Post by: Cool Runnings on April 22, 2016, 07:59:40 AM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgnN2HHVEAAQwRm.jpg)
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Post by: segesta on April 22, 2016, 08:08:47 AM
Did Minneapolis have hundreds of purple filters for their spotlights at the ready? I'm always surprised when local governments can't plow the roads after a snowstorm, but can immediately do something like this.
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Post by: kevdog3019 on April 22, 2016, 11:54:01 AM
If doctors administered a "save shot" and he didn't heed the advice to stay around for 24 hrs. then he shows up the next night at a gathering, etc. etc..  then falls victim to something that takes him down...
The final prognosis may say some kind of bug (pneumonia, flu, even organ failure, etc.), but the damage was done by the drugs.  Maybe the drugs he took from the Walmart visits interacted as well or were the ultimate cause, depending if they were abused.  My guess is ultimately drugs took him down.  If he had just layed low and stayed in the hospital he probably would still be here.  Egos and image sometimes make for bad choices.  Sad.