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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: redrider90 on May 02, 2016, 11:05:44 AM
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I've always been able to control mice in the car as it only happened occasionally and we usually used our 2 cars regularly. But we are both home a lot and live deep in the woods. The mice have over run my Civic. The other car is in the car port and does OK. I probably caught a 8 of them and then they stopped until a few days ago. Now there is foam all over the floors and turds everywhere. I pulled the cabin air cleaner out and there is foam in there. I guess I can go back to setting traps again but I wonder if anybody has any ideas. I read where the hate the smell of peppermint and thought I could use peppermint oil and the let it air out during the day.
I also thought of disconnecting the battery and pouring few quarts of rubbing alcohol in the car and trunk as well as under the hood and let it sit. Maybe that sounds crazy but if this keep up i am going to loose a car.
One other option is to find a parking lot that it will not get towed and let it sit in the sun for a few days: no water and no food and they leave searching.
ANYBODY PLEASE I AM GOING CRAZY.
NO POISONS AS WE HAVE CATS AND A DOG. I have seen a dog bleed out at the Vets office and it is not pretty.
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Stop feeding the cats and leave a window down :laugh: Seriously Harvey , I agree with the no poison thing . This probably sounds silly , and a quick check to verify wouldn't hurt , but prey critters are very sensitive to the smell of predator poop . Maybe some cat poop left around the perimeter might slow them down . Lion poop works well to ward off almost anything , but we can see the difficulty with that plan . Here Kitty Kitty :grin:
Dusty
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Stop feeding the cats and leave a window down :laugh: Seriously Harvey , I agree with the no poison thing . This probably sounds silly , and a quick check to verify wouldn't hurt , but prey critters are very sensitive to the smell of predator poop . Maybe some cat poop left around the perimeter might slow them down . Lion poop works well to ward off almost anything , but we can see the difficulty with that plan . Here Kitty Kitty :grin:
Dusty
Dusty,
We have stupid cats who bring through the cat door live mice and snakes, small bunnies and squirrels and the often release them. Leaving the windows down only invites possums and raccoons and and skunks.
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I've always been able to control mice in the car as it only happened occasionally and we usually used our 2 cars regularly. But we are both home a lot and live deep in the woods. The mice have over run my Civic. The other car is in the car port and does OK. I probably caught a 8 of them and then they stopped until a few days ago. Now there is foam all over the floors and turds everywhere. I pulled the cabin air cleaner out and there is foam in there. I guess I can go back to setting traps again but I wonder if anybody has any ideas. I read where the hate the smell of peppermint and thought I could use peppermint oil and the let it air out during the day.
I also thought of disconnecting the battery and pouring few quarts of rubbing alcohol in the car and trunk as well as under the hood and let it sit. Maybe that sounds crazy but if this keep up i am going to loose a car.
One other option is to find a parking lot that it will not get towed and let it sit in the sun for a few days: no water and no food and they leave searching.
ANYBODY PLEASE I AM GOING CRAZY.
We have a similar problem in the Santa Fe area. Neighbor's cars, my old car etc. crammed full of cholla cactus and wires eaten. The best solution, so far, has been lights under the car. We use strips of LED lights, to keep the underside brightly lit up. It has worked, so far. Use bright LED's they don't use an arm full of power and the rodents don't seem to like the light. Jurgen
NO POISONS AS WE HAVE CATS AND A DOG. I have seen a dog bleed out at the Vets office and it is not pretty.
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We always used to hang moth balls in old socks inside the car. Mice don't like the moth ball smell. I never needed to do it for a DD, but when we would put our cars up for the winter we did. Must have worked since I never had holes in the headliner or anything.
John Henry
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Man that can be tough to deal with. Nothing stinks like mice pee. We also live near some woods and last winter when it was colder than normal, we did get mice in the garage. I put out traps and got a couple, and my wife ordered ultrasonic mice repellant devices that plug into a wall outlet. Supposedly they put out a noise frequency that makes mice go nuts and leave. Maybe yes, maybe no but I havent had any more mice since then.
Maybe run one into the car on an extension cord, and keep one plugged into an outside outlet in the carport? They werent much $$. (Guzzi content).
Hope it helps, so far so good for me. I can get the brand name if you want to try them.
Mark
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I hate meeces to peeces!
(http://thumb.ibb.co/eorFrF/meeces.jpg) (http://ibb.co/eorFrF)
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Dusty,
We have stupid cats who bring through the cat door live mice and snakes, small bunnies and squirrels and the often release them. Leaving the windows down only invites possums and raccoons and and skunks.
Harv , I've never met a cat that was all that smart :laugh: In fact , my guess is most mice are capable of outsmarting the average cat , may be why researchers use mice instead of cats in mazes :shocked: Still , the cat poop trick might be worth investigating .
Dusty
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I've had several murderous cats over the years. I don't know how to sort out the hunter-killers from the Garfields. If you have a hunter-killer, install a cat door. Other critters won't use it as long as you have a dog in the house.
I take it the car in question is parked on dirt? One summer I made the mistake of putting my Comanche on a dirt tie-down, and mice got into the fuselage insulation. After repairing the damage, I put the plane back onto the concrete apron and the mice never returned.
Good reviews on fox urine: http://www.amazon.com/Minnesota-Trapline-Products-Red-Urine/dp/B00U0HHYCK/ref=sr_1_sc_23?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1462211951&sr=1-23-spell&keywords=mouse+repellant (http://www.amazon.com/Minnesota-Trapline-Products-Red-Urine/dp/B00U0HHYCK/ref=sr_1_sc_23?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1462211951&sr=1-23-spell&keywords=mouse+repellant)
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In the RV campers everyone seems to lay BOUNCE fabric softener sheets all around the place to ward off rodent intrusions.
I tried Coyote Pee as a repellent for Chipmunks. They would sit right on top of the containers while snacking on seeds. That put them right in the cross hairs of the scope on the air rifle. That was the end of the Chipmunk infestation.
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.22 pistol. :evil:
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.22 pistol. :evil:
Uh , the mice are IN the car :shocked:
Dusty
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Uh , the mice are IN the car :shocked:
Dusty
ok -- 20-ga then.
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Uh , the mice are IN the car :shocked:
Speed holes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whnms4CLJys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whnms4CLJys)
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I suppose you could keep a mongoose in the car but then where you live they may be hard to get.
Here they are all over the pace. I would start using sticky traps. You can get them at your hardware.
Put a string on them to anchor them to something so they don't get dragged under a seat or somewhere you can't see them. A piece of string taped to the bottom works fine. Dead mice farts really stink but dead mice don't fart for the first day or so.
I have used a lot of different traps and the sticky traps are the most effective for the price.
Just throw away the trap with the mouse in it, no need to get your fingers dirty.
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I suppose you could keep a mongoose in the car but then where you live they may be hard to get.
Maybe some Mongeese are friendlier than others, but if you had one like I've seen in person in a car, you sure wouldn't want to get in the car with it!
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Maybe some Mongeese are friendlier than others, but if you had one like I've seen in person in a car, you sure wouldn't want to get in the car with it!
Hmm , what about a ferret ? :shocked:
Dusty
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This is approximately the way the mongoose I experienced looked at me before it lunged. Luckily there was a glass window between us.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/hfO6yv/hqdefault.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hfO6yv)
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This is approximately the way the mongoose I experienced looked at me before it lunged. Luckily there was a glass window between us.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/hfO6yv/hqdefault.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hfO6yv)
Hey, I know her!
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The light thing is the best idea, and, it seems to work for rats as well as mice.
We have packrats mostly and things like the noise makers don't work. They hate light and they don't like to be without cover. Parking on concrete or hard packed dirt with a 5-10ft clear area seems to work also.
The sticky traps work for mice, not so much for the packrats. I like the poison 'traps'. They are plastic compartments for the poison and the mouse/rat has to get inside to eat it.
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One sure way....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/elephant-on-car_zpscfx4evw1.jpg)
Easy, squeezy. :azn:
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One sure way....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic001/elephant-on-car_zpscfx4evw1.jpg)
Easy, squeezy. :azn:
He had just read about VW cheating on the emissions test :shocked: :evil:
Dusty
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Harv , I've never met a cat that was all that smart :laugh: In fact , my guess is most mice are capable of outsmarting the average cat , may be why researchers use mice instead of cats in mazes :shocked: Still , the cat poop trick might be worth investigating .
Dusty
IDK our cat is pretty smart. He gets to lounge about the house all day while the wife and I got to work.
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Bounce sheets DO NOT WORK. After a period the smell weakens and the mice use them as bedding. First hand experience. Rustproofing a car prior to storage helps. Mice don't like to get their feet oily. Mothballs are effective but not too pleasant in the cabin. Excellent for under the hood and in the trunk.. Tetrie and peppermint oil are supposed to be effective. Peppermint oil on cottonballs in a perforated baggie smell much more pleasant in the car cabin then mothballs.
TRAP, TRAP and more TRAP. Keep them under control. Never stop trapping, even if you think you have them all, because they will be back!!!!
Good luck,
Tim
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Pull the wipers and cowl cover, find the fresh air inlet, and somehow rig a screen. Keeps them out of the interior. Mothballs help. I know this doesn't apply to the OP, but remove their food source,get airtight containers for bird food, dog food etc stored in garage.
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Black Snakes AKA Corn Snakes work really well. No Cat poop, No mice, No nosy people :thumb:
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Wait! We had a corn snake. They are not black. Similar disposition though... quite friendly. And as you said, they will get rid of mice!
(http://thumb.ibb.co/crGLQa/Corn_snake.jpg) (http://ibb.co/crGLQa)
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You might try a 'Ratzapper,' it electrocutes 'em. The only drawback is that they're not waterproof. Make that two drawbacks--they're a little expensive, too.
Rich
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There was just a video article on cnn about this..
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/04/30/rat-destroys-car-pkg.wsb/video/playlists/bugs-and-critters/
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In my Dad's pole barn is a bucket with a few inches of water.. the bait (peanut butter) is on a spool that's on a rod.. they walk out on the rod but when they step on the spool it's like a log roller, they all end up in the drink.. some weekends when I go there I have to fish out a half dozen drowned mice. I should make a video..
make a walkway up to the edge of the bucket and they find the bait lickety split.
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When we bought our house a few years back, it came with a mouse problem, and, after much trial and error, we finally figured out what works - find out how they get in and seal them out! Then trap the ones left. As long as they can get in, there will always be a problem. Not sure how they get in a car though.... :huh:
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I highly suggest not using poison, if they die in the car it's gonna stink. I've seen that a few times when I was a service manager at a car dealership.
I also had a customer who had a rat problem and some serious damage occurred, her insurance took car of the repair bill.
I also suggest covering up their entrance one way or another.
I'm going to give the old bucket trick a try in my old shed.
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Peanut butter works well. I put it on the tip of a cotton swab and tie it to the trap. Works great. As for the bucket, I accidentally discovered just how much they like bird seed. Had a 5 gallon bucket in the basement about 1/3rd full. Fall, crops being cut down, drives the mice to look for new lodging. Came home to 8 of them that had gotten into the bucket and could not get out. Of course they were still alive, but that didn't last long.
John Henry
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I've had good success with sticky traps. Place several around the perimeter of the garage and around the car. Be careful if you have domestic pets/animals that could get into them.
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There's some evidence that mice either flee or have sex after exposure to predator urine. Never thought I would ever type a sentence like that.
http://www.livescience.com/7494-cat-urine-mice-macho.html
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I've had good success with sticky traps. Place several around the perimeter of the garage and around the car. Be careful if you have domestic pets/animals that could get into them.
You mean traps that don't kill and just trap the animal until it dies from exposure? Nice............
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you need to contact a pided piper.
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I used to frequent a bar/restaurant down on Kuda Beach in Bali. The owner had a couple of Mongoose in cages that he let out when he closed up at night. Sure kept the place vermin and snake free.
Dean
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We use several of the traps that just trap them without injury, Harvey. They're the metal ones with a spring loaded door, and a plastic window in the top. We have a motor home that's outside, and it has a couple in it full time. When we get a mouse, or sometimes more than one, we take it far from any houses and let it go. I think Robin usually uses peanut butter for bait. She kept a couple of the little guys as pets, and cares for them diligently. They're fun to watch when they're active in the evening. They do things like run in the wheel and stop suddenly, and the inertia of the wheel carries them around and upside down in a loop. They must like it, because they'll do it repeatedly.
They're really nice, cute little guys, as long as you don't let them take over, which as you found, they are certainly able to do.
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Had really good success with the collapsing door live traps and one bonus is you can buy a few and they work as many times as you want them to. Just be ready to take a drive and let the little turd factories loose someplace far from civilization.
Be really clean and careful when handling the cages. Mice can carry plague, hantavirus and all sorts of buggy things depending on where you live. I went with a "humane" option but I don't fault guys who just off the little buggers with cats or lethal traps.
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I went with a "humane" option but I don't fault guys who just off the little buggers with cats or lethal traps.
Agreed. I just fault the ones that cause suffering and slow death. I've seen a chewed off leg stuck to a sticky type trap. I don't wish that on any animal.
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Pull the wipers and cowl cover, find the fresh air inlet, and somehow rig a screen. Keeps them out of the interior. Mothballs help. I know this doesn't apply to the OP, but remove their food source,get airtight containers for bird food, dog food etc stored in garage.
I've been looking for the fresh air intake. Pulling cowl is going to have wait as my right arm is in a cast due to a fractured forearm/wrist.
But last night I filled the car with traps and sticky paper last night and caught 4 so that is a start. I'll move the car next to the house where there is solid gravel.
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There's some evidence that mice either flee or have sex after exposure to predator urine. Never thought I would ever type a sentence like that.
http://www.livescience.com/7494-cat-urine-mice-macho.html
Well, now we know which websites you spend your spare time on...
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Agreed. I just fault the ones that cause suffering and slow death. I've seen a chewed off leg stuck to a sticky type trap. I don't wish that on any animal.
I was pretty desperate as they were eating away all the foam in the seats and keep plugging up the HVAC cabin air cleaners. It's only a matter of time before they get into the wiring harness. I had that happen on my pick up and as a result ended up with a check engine light on forever and no oil light.It's a pre-emissons vehicle so I did not spend $600 on a new wiring harness.
Not to mention how filthy and unhealthy it is to ride around in a mouse toilet. So desperate times called for desperate solutions. I hated using sticky paper but traps where not getting them all. I kept going out and checking the sticky traps and drown them immediately. I like the water bucket with a spool idea as they die fast in the water. Even snap traps do always kill them. I might add the live traps to manage them in the future as soon as I am sure I have them all gone for now. But just catching 4 in a matter of hours last night revealed the severity of the problem.
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The advantage of sticky traps in a vehicle is that you don't get dead mouse stink in there if you check the traps once a day.
Bucket traps work great but are a bit inconvenient inside a vehicle.
Poison lets them crawl into a hidden place to die and stink.
I had a rat zapper once. It killed some pretty big rats. They all died with legs out straight in front and back
like four corner spread eagle. Some were big enough that the hind end was not even in the trap.
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I've found the best way to keep them out of your car is make sure you leave your vent closed (on recycle). This closes the flap that lets them get inside the duct work.
Our beagle is better than 3 cats. She loves the little critters.
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I've found the best way to keep them out of your car is make sure you leave your vent closed (on recycle). This closes the flap that lets them get inside the duct work.
Our beagle is better than 3 cats. She loves the little critters.
Yep , our adopted "Tri-Terrier of Doom" is damned effective at rodent control .
Dusty
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You could try gassing them to kill what's in the car
Buy a bunch of dry ice and put it into buckets or pans of water inside the car and lock it up tight. Pretty soon they'll all suffocate. It's not a permanent solution because it won't have residual effect, but you'll likely kill everything that's in the car. If you're lucky they'll all try to run away and die out in the open.
It goes without saying you don't try and get in the car without airing it out for at least ten minutes lest you suffer the same fate as the meese.
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I don't understand the level of disneyfication that has folks listing the viruses and plague carried by vermin and then a description of how they safely transport the germ generators to someone else's house and gently let them go. It's a very sweet gesture, having your li'l hearts bleed like that and all, but it's not solving anything. You're just moving the problem into someone else's car. If you're going to go through the motions, do it for real.
THEY'RE VERMIN!!!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!
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THEY'RE VERMIN!!!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!
+1
Also kill all mosquitoes! I can't believe the world would change if we made mosquitoes extinct.
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Also kill all mosquitoes! I can't believe the world would change if we made mosquitoes extinct.
Except lots of birds and fish would go hungry . The food chain is the food chain .
Dusty
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Unicorns used to be in the food chain. Do you notice any difference since they've left?
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Well, now we know which websites you spend your spare time on...
That google search for predator urine and mice will probably be affecting the ads that pop up in my browser for a while.
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Unicorns used to be in the food chain. Do you notice any difference since they've left?
Sure , we no longer have Gnomes or any Pegasi (Peguses?) ...
Dusty
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Except lots of birds and fish would go hungry . The food chain is the food chain .
Dusty
Skeeters are specific carriers. We can eradicate all the west nile carriers for example without killing ALL skeeters if we approach it intelligently*.
* The Monsanto model of blanket-gassing regions of the planet, killing EVERYTHING in order to get the specific target is NOT intelligent.
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Skeeters are specific carriers. We can eradicate all the west nile carriers for example without killing ALL skeeters if we approach it intelligently*.
* The Monsanto model of blanket-gassing regions of the planet, killing EVERYTHING in order to get the specific target is NOT intelligent.
Witness the misuse of the pesticide Mirex , killed more birds and fish than fire ants . Of course it wasn't designed to be sprayed from crop dusters :shocked:
Dusty
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It goes without saying you don't try and get in the car without airing it out for at least ten minutes lest you suffer the same fate as the meese.
I suspect you wouldn't stay in a car full of CO2 two seconds after you tried to take a breath, so no need to worry about suffocating in there.
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Except lots of birds and fish would go hungry . The food chain is the food chain .
Dusty
There is plenty of stuff out there to eat. they would adjust. Nature is flexible, not fixed as some would have you believe.
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There is plenty of stuff out there to eat. they would adjust. Nature is flexible, not fixed as some would have you believe.
A bit of investigation into the huge increase in cases of diabetes among Native Americans might be in order here Attie .
Just to clarify , only for scientific reasons , no social or political content intended .
Dusty
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Please no sticky traps. That's a horrible way to die, even for a damn vermin.
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In my Dad's pole barn is a bucket with a few inches of water.. the bait (peanut butter) is on a spool that's on a rod.. they walk out on the rod but when they step on the spool it's like a log roller, they all end up in the drink.. some weekends when I go there I have to fish out a half dozen drowned mice. I should make a video..
make a walkway up to the edge of the bucket and they find the bait lickety split.
These work as high production traps. There is a huge variety of working designs to try. Search "bucket trap, mice". There's a bunch on youtube or google images. For me, bacon bits (not the imitation bottled type) mixed up with peanut butter is irresistible to the mice.
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Page one of this thread has a couple of photos of a cuddly little mongoose at his friendliest.
At least that's what they look like around here. How they must look to a mouse may be different
since they are bigger, faster, and well armed with claws and teeth like razors.
Also they have a racial hatred of other rodents. They will murder them even if they don't want to eat them.
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If the glass hadn't been between the one in the photo and my hand, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't still have all ten digits.
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But you could brag that you lost them to a mongoose. For his size he is one of the meanest little things on the planet.
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I got my leg raked by an otter -- twice. I still have scars from the second one.
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You know, if you rolled the car down the boat ramp and dunked it up to the roof- it would take care of the whole lot of them right quick.
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But then you would be trading rat smell for fishy wet dog smell!
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You could try gassing them to kill what's in the car
Buy a bunch of dry ice and put it into buckets or pans of water inside the car and lock it up tight. Pretty soon they'll all suffocate. It's not a permanent solution because it won't have residual effect, but you'll likely kill everything that's in the car. If you're lucky they'll all try to run away and die out in the open.
It goes without saying you don't try and get in the car without airing it out for at least ten minutes lest you suffer the same fate as the meese.
CO2 is odorless and the mice would die in place...... in their little holes smell up the car. I figured on rubbing alcohol sans battery connected as the flash point is 172 degrees.
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(http://thumb.ibb.co/dezJBF/Frank_Zappa_Weasels_Ripped_My_Flesh.jpg) (http://ibb.co/dezJBF)
AAHHHHH The Memories...
Paul :boozing:
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I don't understand the level of disneyfication that has folks listing the viruses and plague carried by vermin and then a description of how they safely transport the germ generators to someone else's house and gently let them go. It's a very sweet gesture, having your li'l hearts bleed like that and all, but it's not solving anything. You're just moving the problem into someone else's car. If you're going to go through the motions, do it for real.
THEY'RE VERMIN!!!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!
That's funny. I grew up killing deer, elk and all manner of small critters for food.
We can't all be hardcore Alaskans I guess.
I'll step on the next mouse I see so you'll think I'm a real man.
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Then give the good folks here your address and you can be the official plague sanctuary.
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look at the upside, you can use the high occupancy lane on the highway
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look at the upside, you can use the high occupancy lane on the highway
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Dusty
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CO2 is odorless and the mice would die in place..
It's odorless, but in high concentration, when it contacts wet mucous membranes, it makes enough carbonic acid to burn like crazy. I've accidentally started to take a breath of CO2, and there's no way I could finish that breath, since a coughing fit ensued. But still, there's no guarantee that a bunch of coughing mice could quickly find their way out of the car.
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It's odorless, but in high concentration, when it contacts wet mucous membranes, it makes enough carbonic acid to burn like crazy. I've accidentally started to take a breath of CO2, and there's no way I could finish that breath, since a coughing fit ensued. But still, there's no guarantee that a bunch of coughing mice could quickly find their way out of the car.
Interesting Jim as I had to pack special blood samples in CO2 for a 24 hour air shipment. I had the package in my lap while I sat there breaking up the CO2 and packing the frozen tubes. It was right in my face and i had no reaction to it.?
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Being heavier than air, any free CO2 was probably flowing down and around things like water would. Next time you have the chance, and have a cooler full of the stuff, stick your head in and try to take a breath. It's pretty exciting. :laugh:
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Being heavier than air, any free CO2 was probably flowing down and around things like water would. Next time you have the chance, and have a cooler full of the stuff, stick your head in and try to take a breath. It's pretty exciting. :laugh:
Oh, I have a FAR more constructive suggestion - just make a large batch of homemade wine or beer in a 35 gallon container, then stick your head in and try to breath.
Granted, it's not PURE CO2, but you'll get the general idea.
AND, when you're done, you'll have homebrew.
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My plants really like it when I loose the kraken on them. At ~1500ppm co2 they grow at a rate you can see from hour to hour.
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You're absolutely right, Norm. I have that stuff around all the time here. In fact, the last time I sucked in CO2 was when I was sniffing a 15 gallon batch that was fermenting in a 32 gallon Rubbermaid trash can. You got anything good fermenting?
RK, that's something I need to try, escpecially with all the free CO2 I have around here.