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Title: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Luap McKeever on May 18, 2016, 08:23:37 AM
Hi all.  I feel the need to reiterate some things here due to a rash of several nasty emails I've received in the past few days.  I'll spare you the details.

1. This is not a Corporation. This discussion board is non-profit.  There are no board members. There are no salaries. There are no perks.
2. We are not affiliated with Piaggio, Moto Guzzi, HD, Yamaha, etc...
3. The Admins and moderators here do so out of the kindness of their hearts, and with little recognition I might add.
4. Just because someone donates to the forum, does not give them the right to pretend they are part owner and decision makers.
5. We really try to run a clean place, fit for the whole family.  We let people push our buttons a lot.  But come on now, we're all adults here. If you wouldn't say it in person, don't type it.
6. If you are not happy here, please move on.  I've did it this way for close to 20 years and if you're waiting around for a change...
7. Thanks again to the 99.999% members who enjoy their time here.  You are the reason we exist.

Safe riding,
Luap McKeever
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Dave Swanson on May 18, 2016, 08:29:32 AM
Luap, thanks for doing this thankless job year after year.  It is much appreciated!
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: davedel44 on May 18, 2016, 08:32:20 AM
Well said fearless leader!
And a big :thumb: to Luap and the mods.

Thanks guys and the Luap Girls.

Dave
Galveston
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: RANDM on May 18, 2016, 08:37:00 AM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 18, 2016, 08:49:42 AM
Yeah, me, too. Thanks Luap and Moderators.. :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 18, 2016, 08:52:13 AM
Thanks Luap for putting up with all this nonsense for next to nothing. We appreciate it. But that Okie from Muskogee, you need to have a long talk with that boy :whip2:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Markcarovilli on May 18, 2016, 08:52:29 AM
make perfectly good sense and thanks again to all the mods....

Mark
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: smdl on May 18, 2016, 08:52:39 AM
Count me in as one of the 99.999%.  Thanks for all you do!

Shaun
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: oldbike54 on May 18, 2016, 08:57:40 AM
Thanks Luap for putting up with all this nonsense for next to nothing. We appreciate it. But that Okie from Muskogee, you need to have a long talk with that boy :whip2:

 It won't do any good , that guy is , well , you know  :shocked: :rolleyes:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: PJPR01 on May 18, 2016, 09:06:22 AM
Spot on!  Thanks to Luap and all the Mod Squad, or more appropriately Squadra dei Moderatori Guzzi! 
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Fuzzy on May 18, 2016, 09:15:24 AM
Wholeheartedly agree. This forum has been a pleasure since I have joined the Guzzi world. Many thanks to the moderators and helpful forum members.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: power685 on May 18, 2016, 09:25:40 AM
 I belong in read quite a few motorcycle forums. This one happens to be one of the best. It's a very helpful group of very like-minded people. Thank you to all that contribute your valuable time.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: lucydad on May 18, 2016, 09:31:02 AM
I simply wish to add my thanks and admiration.  This forum is exceptional.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: RayB on May 18, 2016, 10:22:57 AM
Thanks Luap
Where would us 99.99 percenters be without you , the forum and the mods
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: tiger_one on May 18, 2016, 10:31:31 AM
Yep, for sure, thanks.  Great place to melt the edges off.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: bsanut on May 18, 2016, 10:43:58 AM
Thank you.  Truly.

As for certain behavior, some folks just want to ARGUE, just for the SAKE of disagreement.  I don't understand that.

Except that conversation is a dance, and lots of people don't know how to dance.  They are only waiting for you to stop talking, so they can continue to say what they were saying before.  Such folks rarely know how to listen, and their stories are always the most boring.  Once you get an ear for it, you see it EVERYWHERE.

Joe
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Leo on May 18, 2016, 10:46:14 AM
Thanks Luap for keeping the board going, for most of us I think it feels like a very welcoming community :)
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Tkelly on May 18, 2016, 10:49:48 AM
post the whiner commentsso the rest of us can see what you are dealing with.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: canuck750 on May 18, 2016, 10:54:48 AM
Luap, :bow: :bow: :bow:

Thank you for building and maintaining such a GREAT site, I can only imagine how much of a pain in the a$$ it must be to administer such a large and diverse group of responses.

To the moderators, thank you for keeping the site as even as balanced as it is, not a job I would be want to tackle and one that is usually overlooked and not respected.

I really, really appreciate all the knowledge and support this site offers, without it I would be back toiling in the dark spaces of Yamaha and Honda. :grin:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: oldbike54 on May 18, 2016, 11:08:08 AM
 Just a couple or three points . First , there are some misconceptions here , the rule says "no politics", and while we miss some things , there is no effort to take sides , heck , truth is there is disagreement within the four of us that try to keep this thing going  . We all get along because we choose to , and respect each other's opinions , but mostly we avoid the topic when in each other's company .  Second, what Luap has created here is amazing , a site that reaches around the globe , and includes doctors , lawyers , business men , medical pros , a couple of college professors , some scientists , engineers , chefs , more than a few pro level mechanics and techs (bless you guys) , a couple of philosophers , IT guys , inventors , racers , high mileage road warriors , re-entry riders , folks just getting started in our sport/hobby/obsession , probably every race/religion/culture on the planet , plumbers , electricians , statisticians , obstetricians , morticians, pilots , professional OTR truckers , drivers of grocery trucks , (thanks Jeff) and a couple of reprobate nail benders . Why does this list matter , well , we are a very diverse group that manages to get along , because we choose to .

 Thanks

  Dusty
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: chuck peterson on May 18, 2016, 11:39:03 AM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: davedude on May 18, 2016, 11:43:19 AM
Don't post much, but lurk frequently; I say, well put and thanks. Also no, it doesn't hurt to be reminded.
DB
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: ken farr on May 18, 2016, 11:47:39 AM
Hi all.  I feel the need to reiterate some things here due to a rash of several nasty emails I've received in the past few days.  I'll spare you the details.

1. This is not a Corporation. This discussion board is non-profit.  There are no board members. There are no salaries. There are no perks.
2. We are not affiliated with Piaggio, Moto Guzzi, HD, Yamaha, etc...
3. The Admins and moderators here do so out of the kindness of their hearts, and with little recognition I might add.
4. Just because someone donates to the forum, does not give them the right to pretend they are part owner and decision makers.
5. We really try to run a clean place, fit for the whole family.  We let people push our buttons a lot.  But come on now, we're all adults here. If you wouldn't say it in person, don't type it.
6. If you are not happy here, please move on.  I've did it this way for close to 20 years and if you're waiting around for a change...
7. Thanks again to the 99.999% members who enjoy their time here.  You are the reason we exist.

Safe riding,
Luap McKeever


....that explains why I haven't received my dividend check....

Luap   :bow:


kjf
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 18, 2016, 11:48:40 AM
Thank you much Luap and Moderators.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Spuddy on May 18, 2016, 11:48:53 AM
Thank you Luap. Thank you Moderators. And a thank you to all the.... Well... eclectic members that make up this strange but wonderful site...

Spud
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on May 18, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
Just a couple or three points . First , there are some misconceptions here , the rule says "no politics", and while we miss some things , there is no effort to take sides , heck , truth is there is disagreement within the four of us that try to keep this thing going  . We all get along because we choose to , and respect each other's opinions , but mostly we avoid the topic when in each other's company .  Second, what Luap has created here is amazing , a site that reaches around the globe , and includes doctors , lawyers , business men , medical pros , a couple of college professors , some scientists , engineers , chefs , more than a few pro level mechanics and techs (bless you guys) , a couple of philosophers , IT guys , inventors , racers , high mileage road warriors , re-entry riders , folks just getting started in our sport/hobby/obsession , probably every race/religion/culture on the planet , plumbers , electricians , statisticians , obstetricians , morticians, pilots , professional OTR truckers , drivers of grocery trucks , (thanks Jeff) and a couple of reprobate nail benders . Why does this list matter , well , we are a very diverse group that manages to get along , because we choose to .

 Thanks

  Dusty

You forgot to mention us retards.  We feel slighted now.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: oldbike54 on May 18, 2016, 11:56:55 AM
You forgot to mention us retards.  We feel slighted now.

 Dangit , knew I was missing someone  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Demar on May 18, 2016, 12:05:53 PM
I appreciate the site and the effort it takes to keep it going. Thank you.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: kirkemon on May 18, 2016, 12:40:07 PM
I appreciate the site and the effort it takes to keep it going. Thank you.  :thumb:
:1:
I belong to several different forums - I like this one the best, what's not to like?
Keep up the good work and THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: MGPilot on May 18, 2016, 12:47:28 PM
I peruse several forums. I appreciate the general tone & helpfulness of this site. The tone of several sites degraded to the point where I simply moved on as it seemed to be nothing but criticism and zingers.  Not even thoughtful or intelligent criticism & zingers.

In short, thanks.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Cool Runnings on May 18, 2016, 01:22:56 PM
Down on Mainstreet (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62vjd_bob-seger-main-street_music)   :boozing:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Bill N on May 18, 2016, 03:20:39 PM
Same as the above, I'm on many diverse forums. This is  one of my favorites and I have not one single issue with the management, only praise and thanks.
Bill
HD&M 98 EV
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Adk.IBO on May 18, 2016, 03:29:22 PM
I would not own my Norge if it wasn't for this site. And my Norge would not be personalized/farkled as nicely as it is if it wasn't for this site. I don't thank every one enough. So...Thank you, thank you, thank you and thank you! And if I missed anybody? Thank you too! :smiley:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Luap McKeever on May 18, 2016, 08:22:01 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone. You all make it easy to remember why we do this.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: travelingbyguzzi on May 18, 2016, 08:37:41 PM
Dusty said it short and sweet. We get along because we choose to.
Good choice, everyone.
And thanks, Luap
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Devildog on May 18, 2016, 09:43:03 PM
Yes, WG is by far the best bike forum, you are appreciated.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: donp71 on May 18, 2016, 11:19:42 PM
I'd just like to offer my genuine thanks to those who make this forum run and maintain it, and to the vast majority of members who also make the interaction on here friendly, genuinely helpful and positive. It made a big difference to me "re-discovering" Moto Guzzi the third time around recently with my Breva 1200 2V, with some great tips and info on things to look out for and what's also so great about ownership, when I asked the questions on this site.

So to all that bring such a positive, passionate energy to the shared enjoyment (and occasional challenge) of life with a Moto Guzzi, i say thanks
Cheers
Don
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Das on May 19, 2016, 04:21:37 AM
 Hi Luap.  I've never met you and likely never will, nor for that matter Old Bike, given that I live half a world away.  I do however know common sense when I hear it.  Thanks for all you guys do.  I very rarely post yet reading this forum is a daily ritual and part of the fabric of my life.  Long may its spirit live.

Das
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Vince in Milwaukee on May 19, 2016, 05:36:03 AM
Happy camper here.  Thank you for keeping the fire burning. 
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: fubar guzzi on May 19, 2016, 09:22:26 AM
Well,ring ah ding,I just wanted to chime in here too :boozing:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: oldbike54 on May 19, 2016, 10:39:55 AM
Well,ring ah ding,I just wanted to chime in here too :boozing:

 Mornin' Tom , ya ringga dinger you  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: BMWDavid on May 19, 2016, 10:48:18 AM
 :thumb:
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Post by: Bottler on May 19, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
I too don't post much but I visit most days so a big thank you to all who keep WG humming along!

Cheers

Bottler
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Damnyankee on May 19, 2016, 08:41:39 PM
Don't post much here anymore but I know it will be here when I decide to post, says a lot for the forum...longevity. So here's my latest post. The Bassa is alive and well in Barrea, Italy as my great uncle Tomasso demonstrates...

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/s960x960/12900978_10207562255069414_7376046807465492509_o.jpg)

(http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss189/Damnyankee49/IMAG0387%20copy_zpsijah0cu1.jpg)

And the Barrea Soccer Squadra is #1 in their class in Abruzzo..

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13087189_10207796119715884_6379995362759742315_o.jpg)

And the riders from all over Italy return....

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13087586_10207784184617514_7783889059226659057_n.jpg?oh=953f8053aba4a609351eee6891c538f5&oe=579F82C4)

(http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss189/Damnyankee49/IMAG0396_zpsfhoksrrw.jpg)

The sun sets on Lago di Barrea...

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13063353_10207753838378877_6516992515913481093_o.jpg)

(http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss189/Damnyankee49/70d4a2bf-1de0-46c4-bb73-a2e9eb9d8cc7_zpstrzflvbd.jpg)

And the band begins to play....

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13173205_10207846217208290_8240990595861094350_o.jpg)

Barrea finally sleeps...

(http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss189/Damnyankee49/DSC_1265_zpssztobaff.jpg)

Buona Notte WG! :thumb:


Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: oldbike54 on May 19, 2016, 08:44:42 PM
  Beautiful Yankee , simply beautiful  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: kirby1923 on May 19, 2016, 08:53:33 PM
Well,ring ah ding,I just wanted to chime in here too :boozing:

Ah FUBAR, I need to take you up in the B 18 and turn you upside down and let you hang in the straps for a bit,
it will clear your head!!!

cheers!!!
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Muzz on May 19, 2016, 09:02:06 PM
  Beautiful Yankee , simply beautiful  :bow:

 Dusty

 :1: on that! :thumb:

And, a big thank you from me for all the work you do Luap and Moderators. W.G. is actually the only site that I partake of, not just Guzzi stuff but a whole range of various topics, and have got to know a whole heap of good people along the way.

Thanks again Team. :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Tom H on May 19, 2016, 11:27:20 PM
Damnyankee, very nice pics!!

And a big thank you for having a site to be able to post pics like that!!

Tom
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on May 20, 2016, 02:48:54 PM
Thanks for putting up with the hassles, Luap.  I like the 'small town' feel of the group, as well as the expertise and wackiness.  When I sell my bike, I will sell only for cash, except to a known person from this group from whom I would accept a personal check (or maybe even an IOU!)  Hard to develop trust on the internet, but this group has it going.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: kidsmoke on May 20, 2016, 04:09:01 PM
Just piling on, I realize, but it's still worth saying formally. thank you.

 :bow:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 20, 2016, 04:09:42 PM
  Beautiful Yankee , simply beautiful  :bow:

 Dusty

Yes! Thanks Yank, stuff like that is one of the reasons I'm here!
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: twowings on May 20, 2016, 04:14:59 PM
Italy road trip!!!! Who's in???  :laugh:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 20, 2016, 04:16:46 PM
Italy road trip!!!! Who's in???  :laugh:

Good thing I have the amphibious LeMans! 
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Demar on May 20, 2016, 04:28:10 PM
Italy road trip!!!! Who's in???  :laugh:

A dream of mine. Hopefully within a few years. I'd like to ride around Northern Italy and into Switzerland and Austria. My family is from a town near Genoa.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Testarossa on May 20, 2016, 04:34:46 PM
Deep gratitude to Luap and the moderators for keeping the campfire civil.

Quote
If you wouldn't say it in person, don't type it.

Words to live by in any venue. Unhappily, there are folks who think that being rude in person is "keeping it real."
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Damnyankee on May 20, 2016, 08:26:37 PM
A dream of mine. Hopefully within a few years. I'd like to ride around Northern Italy and into Switzerland and Austria. My family is from a town near Genoa.

If you plan to ride northern Italy ya gotta remember that roads up there are not always open. Stelvio is a good example, open from June to September so if that's your plan, check your dates. After I rented the Stelvio from Agostini in 2012 and rode from Mandello to Barrea and back, I asked about renting a smaller bike for a trip down Stelvio...No, it is October and Stelvio is not open, snow ya know :laugh:

PS...trust me, there is no shortage of great motorcycle roads in Italy, actually Europe in general. Some very challenging but also very beautiful scenery and history, a photographers dream :)
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Damnyankee on May 20, 2016, 08:54:52 PM
Here's an interactive map of the National Park Abruzzo, Lazio and Molise where I live...

http://www.parcoabruzzo.it/Emap.php

Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Damnyankee on May 20, 2016, 09:24:18 PM
Also, for those of you interested, I hope this will be my first Guzzi raduno in Italy  http://www.guzziclubcapodileuca.it/     About 3 hours from home and look at this place right on the Med

(http://images.marinas.com/med_res_id/76273)
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Huzo on May 21, 2016, 06:44:29 AM
Italy road trip!!!! Who's in???  :laugh:
Going in two weeks, see you on the Stelvio ????
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Tom on May 21, 2016, 07:18:10 AM
Thanks Luap!  I was going to suggest that those Americans that haven't donated funds to help you run the forum should do so but the last time I did that I got a lot of negative posts.  Seems words are cheaper.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 21, 2016, 07:36:40 AM
Thanks Luap!  I was going to suggest that those Americans that haven't donated funds to help you run the forum should do so but the last time I did that I got a lot of negative posts.  Seems words are cheaper.

I'll chime in with Tom. The Guzzi (and other) knowledge I've garnered here is priceless.. but being a cheap Guzzi guy  :smiley: I just give a small donation every year.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Tom on May 21, 2016, 07:39:05 AM
Small works. :thumb:
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: slowmover on May 21, 2016, 09:51:15 AM
I've had situations in the past and had nowhere to turn but this site.It is invaluable to me having these mysterious bikes and being able to get answers here. Thank you.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Tom on May 21, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
I like the fact that you can confirm something on Guzzi that you're trying fix.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Guzzer on May 21, 2016, 06:18:50 PM
Thanks to all that provide this experience.  The knowledge and help I receive from this site is fantastic!
Thank you!
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Damnyankee on May 21, 2016, 11:20:28 PM
Sorry about the thread drift, I just get carried away. My point was, the longevity of WG forum says a lot about it.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Shorty on May 21, 2016, 11:29:39 PM
I like it here, thanks.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: oldbike54 on May 22, 2016, 10:48:30 AM
I like it here, thanks.

 Yeah , at any given time there are 1,000 people viewing WG , so you aren't alone Larry .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Lcarlson on May 22, 2016, 07:59:55 PM
Yeah , at any given time there are 1,000 people viewing WG , so you aren't alone Larry .

 Dusty

That is astounding.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: oldbike54 on May 22, 2016, 08:06:07 PM
That is astounding.

 1180 or so at the moment . That is spread out over a small period of time , but still ...

 So much for the idea that WG is some insignificant website  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Muzz on May 23, 2016, 05:23:20 AM
Yeah , at any given time there are 1,000 people viewing WG , so you aren't alone Larry .

 Dusty

I remember one of the earlier incarnations had a viewer number; around 20 was a good number and 56 set a record!
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: Aaron D. on May 23, 2016, 05:56:30 AM
Best motorcycle forum on the web. Period.
Title: Re: Just want to reiterate something here...
Post by: johnr on May 23, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Luap, when I read your original post my reaction was one of mild sadness. Sadness that you felt the need to write that post. You must have been having some 'unfun' of late.

There can not be many that are unaware of the debt I owe to people on this site, nor how grateful I was and am for their help, even though that project has yet to reach full fruition, sadly.

There are times when I have either not agreed or simply not understood an executive decision on the board. Only once I think did I become so angry I came close to walking away.  That instance I think it was the way I was spoken to rather than the issue itself.  The board though is still here , and those decisions are after all not mine to make. 

What Luap and the others do here works, and while we may have moved a little way out from the campfire, it continues to work. , I value it. Long may it continue.