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Title: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: SLDMRossi on May 26, 2016, 07:30:48 PM
Before you complete the deal verify that it has two keys. If there's only one, knock $100 off the price!

Because if you order a replacement from Piaggio, the cost is going to be on the order of $90. One reason is because when you order "Quantity 1," you end up getting "2" blanks. Then, you have to take them to a Locksmith and get them cut...or in fact, milled.

Steven Rossi
East Haddam, CT
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: Bud on May 26, 2016, 07:59:52 PM
I'm guessing the sport came with "1" key?
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: SLDMRossi on May 26, 2016, 08:58:00 PM
You got it...and oh by the way, if it's only got "1" key...it probably doesn't have an Owner's Manual, either. But at least that you can source off of e-Bay...for a price.

SR
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: not-fishing on May 26, 2016, 09:07:04 PM
I was happy to get two keys for $100, being one of the older fellas I tend to misplace my keys - often.

Maybe it's a side effect of my Five-Mississippi's of Medicine.
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: Triple Jim on May 26, 2016, 10:31:54 PM
I was happy to get two keys for $100, being one of the older fellas I tend to misplace my keys - often.

Motorcycle key tip:  Never put them anywhere other than in the bike's ignition switch or the pocket of your riding pants.
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: Bud on May 27, 2016, 07:05:57 PM
     The bike is SWEET, could be much worse!
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: SLDMRossi on May 27, 2016, 09:12:45 PM
Rode it to the Locksmith...can't do better than that!

SR
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: sib on May 28, 2016, 05:26:38 AM
Although my recent V7 came with 2 keys, I had my local locksmith cut a couple of spares, using generic blanks, for about $3 each.
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: SLDMRossi on May 28, 2016, 09:22:06 AM
Generic blanks for a milled key?

SR
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: johnr on May 28, 2016, 09:40:47 AM
Got a spare made at a local locksmith for a fraction of that ($100) price?? Just a few bucks from memory.
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: blackcat on May 28, 2016, 10:00:51 AM
I had a key made for the Norge and I believe it was $45 including the key.
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: Waltr on May 28, 2016, 10:08:08 AM
Very late model Guzzi's  could be chipped and require knowing the CODE to allow the new key to be programmed to the bike.  If someone along the way has set the code other than all zero's and that code can not be accessed you may end up buying a complete instrument cluster just to be able program additional keys.

                            BE VERY CAUTIOUS BUYING BIKES WITH ONE KEY AND NO KNOW CODE
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: Triple Jim on May 28, 2016, 02:12:02 PM
                            BE VERY CAUTIOUS BUYING BIKES WITH ONE KEY AND NO KNOW CODE

Isn't there a way to clone a key cheaply, like my  Ford Taurus can do?
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: lucydad on May 28, 2016, 03:01:54 PM
Huh, on a related note:  three of four Porsche Caymans I checked out only had one key.  Dealers could not figure out why I was not happy with that given replacement cost of $300 for key and programming.  Individual just shrugged his shoulders.  Walked away -- missing key was a key factor...
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: canuguzzi on May 28, 2016, 04:00:51 PM
Isn't there a way to clone a key cheaply, like my  Ford Taurus can do?

Yes. The cost depends on where you get it done. If Moto Guzzi figured out a way to prevent the codes from being read or the keys from being cloned the FBI and Apple sure would like to talk to them about it.

Even with immobilizer technology, the keys can be cloned and the codes can be read. No, you don't need a new dash.
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: Triple Jim on May 28, 2016, 04:05:48 PM
Yes. The cost depends on where you get it done.

My Taurus will do it for me if I have a new chip type key that has been cut but not programmed.  There's a cryptic procedure that has you turn the ignition on and off, insert the original key and then insert the new one (etc) and when you're done, the new key is programmed like the original one.  I was wondering if Guzzis have a similar procedure to let the owner copy a key.
Title: Re: An important tip if you're buying a used...but fairly new...Moto Guzzi
Post by: canuguzzi on May 28, 2016, 04:26:52 PM
Not like that.

Those keys like you're talking about often let you change other options like the chirp when the alarm is set and so on.