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Title: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 09, 2016, 02:05:24 PM
 04:00AM,  Woke up with a stinging sensation in my upper leg.  It quickly turned to fire at a spot about 4   inches below my crotch on the inside of my thigh.
 I turned on the light but did not see the perpetrator which means the bastard is still in the room some where.
 As the pain worsened I recognized the two puncture marks that are the signature of a centipede sting.  I soaked it with a rag wet with vinegar and then dabbed on some orajel.  No more sleep this night.
 This is the second time in two years I have been stung in my own house by these monsters.  I killed the first one but couldn't find this one.
 The sting caused a half dollar sized swelling with a black spot the size of a pencil eraser with the two puncture marks looking like fang bite of a small snake.  Damn those things hurt.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: lucydad on July 09, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
Jim of the far flung island,

Had the same critters in North Africa.  Just plain nasty.  Worse were the little dark brown/black scorpions.  Worse than that were the cobras, but they mainly hung out in the cities and oasis areas. 

Go see a doctor and perhaps anti-histamines?
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 09, 2016, 02:34:19 PM
  Nothing for it but what I have done and wait for it to heal.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Rotten Ralph on July 09, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
You could always move to Fairbanks. :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Tom on July 09, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
Y'ep, they're all over the islands.  We get them here too.  They have nice blue/orange colors......"don't stare at the light".  :grin:  BTDT with the stings. Small ones only.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: charlie b on July 09, 2016, 03:22:45 PM
They are all over, just about everywhere it gets hot.  Tons out here in the deser.

Now for Cam, who will tell us about all the different varieties.  And along those lines, are all insects sensitive to hot temps, ie, above 150F?  Do they die at that temp or just go into a coma like state?
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Tom on July 09, 2016, 03:30:22 PM
We get the beeg ones out here.  Longer than 6".
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: charlie b on July 09, 2016, 04:29:12 PM
Yep, one on the porch the other day was about 8".  Most of the time they are 4"-6".
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on July 09, 2016, 05:43:11 PM
Well, at least you're not in Australia..
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 09, 2016, 07:20:07 PM
  But in Fairbanks even the frost will bite you.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: balvenie on July 09, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
Well, at least you're not in Australia..

You're safe from those nasty things here Jim, just keep away from the dirty water in the Top End :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Lannis on July 09, 2016, 07:39:16 PM
We're going to hear about this next time we hear about the wonderful riding weather and the tropical life of luxury on the islands.

Trust me!   :laugh:

Lannis
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Rich A on July 09, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
I ate some fried scorpions on a trip to China. Not bad. Best use for them. I think that you can find them with a UV light.

Rich A
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: normzone on July 09, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
The predator in me wants to know what kind of traps they like.

There's probably not a good answer to that question, or we wouldn't be reading this.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: rboe on July 10, 2016, 08:21:59 AM
They give me the heebie jeebies. Saw one at the Honolulu airport on the walkway we had to go down to get to our plane. Damn thing needed a leash it was so big. Over a foot long and fast. Could have feed a family of four.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: donn on July 10, 2016, 10:26:10 AM
(http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/188000/126188.jpg)

They're predators, so you'd have to find some likely victim to stake out in your trap.  I would think something like a crab trap, where the entrance is fairly natural but not the exit.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: not-fishing on July 10, 2016, 11:25:55 AM
Good Lord!

Why'd you guys have to post this?  Now I'll have nightmares.

why'd it have to be centapedes?  The one thing that could give me nightmares.

Mark
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 10, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
They give me the heebie jeebies. Saw one at the Honolulu airport on the walkway we had to go down to get to our plane. Damn thing needed a leash it was so big. Over a foot long and fast. Could have feed a family of four.

 Could feed on a family of four.  Fixed it for ya.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: travelingbyguzzi on July 10, 2016, 03:50:42 PM
 Jim, we had our Deep Forest campout this weekend. As you recall, no snakes, no ticks, chiggers, scorpions or centipedes. We did have about 3 mosquitoes Friday evening and rain, sweet rain. You were discussed fondly.

Bill
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 10, 2016, 04:00:19 PM
 I am so sorry I couldn't attend.  Deep Forest is my favorite.
 As I remember those grounds they are not so good for a wheelchair so I will just have to read your reports on it.  I still ride the 750 Honda with sidecar but never for more than about 40 miles max.
  Trust me, getting old ain't all it's cracked up to be.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: DaSwami on July 10, 2016, 05:07:00 PM
04:00AM,  Woke up with a stinging sensation in my upper leg.  It quickly turned to fire at a spot about 4   inches below my crotch on the inside of my thigh.

Look on the bright side.  At least he didn't getcha 4 inches higher.....
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: RANDM on July 10, 2016, 05:27:19 PM
Well, at least you're not in Australia..

Ummmm - Big, Blue/Orange and fast? I think we gottem
to too Chuck or something close. Had one in the house
Years back - badass looking thing ......... It was too fast
for me.

Maurie.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 10, 2016, 05:54:38 PM
  Okay, here,  http://hubpages.com/travel/Big-Centipedes-in-Hawaii-Paradise-Anyone

  This guy is braver than me, or the centipede is dead.

 (https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/3137044_f260.jpg)
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Tom on July 10, 2016, 07:02:18 PM
Kind of takes the edge off of fearing them when you put it in the food category.  Sharkfin soup gave me a different perspective as a kid towards sharks.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: coastdude on July 11, 2016, 02:07:49 AM
When living in central Australia (Yulara) we had a plague of centipedes following heavy rain. There were so many that they blocked up the drains in the resort lift wells causing them to flood, the road beneath a street light got slippery with their dead bodies and airport staff were piggy backing female passengers from aircraft to the terminals. Despite there being millions of them I only heard of one person being stung (on the face while sleeping). That's not my arm in the profile picture, I would only pick them up with my secateurs.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Lannis on July 11, 2016, 07:54:42 AM
I can say with certainty that the presence of such creatures in any area would be an absolute determinant in whether I would live there or not, no matter what the other benefits, nice climate, chance of a job, scenery, etc. might be!   

Just a thing for me.   Apparently doesn't bother others!

Lannis
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Rich A on July 11, 2016, 09:16:54 AM
We have these in addition to rattlesnakes:

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/Taurragon/Tarantula1_zpsnvrswwo2.jpg) (http://s56.photobucket.com/user/Taurragon/media/Tarantula1_zpsnvrswwo2.jpg.html)

(Very few mosquitos or ticks though)

Rich A
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: O on July 11, 2016, 09:56:11 AM
I can say with certainty that the presence of such creatures in any area would be an absolute determinant in whether I would live there or not, no matter what the other benefits, nice climate, chance of a job, scenery, etc. might be!   

Just a thing for me.   Apparently doesn't bother others!

Lannis

Agreed.  I have no issue with spiders or snakes, and do my best to save them whenever they're in the house or the yard, but for some reason, even the relatively small centipedes we have in the northeast skeeve me out like no other creature, and I dispatch them with extreme prejudice.  If I had to deal with the jungle-sized variety, I'd rethink my location.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: sib on July 11, 2016, 10:18:43 AM
They are all over, just about everywhere it gets hot.  Tons out here in the deser.

Now for Cam, who will tell us about all the different varieties.  And along those lines, are all insects sensitive to hot temps, ie, above 150F?  Do they die at that temp or just go into a coma like state?
Well, just to be pedantic, I'll point out that scorpions are arachnids, not insects.  To verify this assertion, the next time one is stinging you, count the number of legs.

As for high temperature tolerance, one species of Saharan desert ant (an insect) remains active even above 50C (122F) and can live to 55C (131F).  Don't know about >150F, though.  Also don't know how they taste.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: JJ on July 11, 2016, 10:31:14 AM
Here is one of the hazards of living in "Red Rock country" (northern Arizona) - the dreaded Bark Scorpion! :shocked:

My wife was stung on her left hand while sleeping in bed the very first week we moved in back in April!! 

Not good...she was in intense pain, (neurotoxin venom...), up and down her arm for 8 hours and almost had to go to the hospital! She said it felt like someone had hit her arm with a baseball bat!  Nasty little things!

Since then, we have killed 4 in the house.  Must be vigilant, shaking out blankets and shoes all the time now! :rolleyes:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/iDBSMF/Bark_Scorpion.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iDBSMF)

Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 11, 2016, 01:16:38 PM
 Congress should make possession of venom by bugs illegal.
 Penalty would be capital punishment.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Tom on July 11, 2016, 02:07:33 PM
Makes no difference where you live.  Nature will balance it out with something.   :tongue:  You pick a location and be aware of what's out there.  After all we're the invaders and nature is adjusting to us.  Uhh......how's that for a philosophical view???  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: oldbike54 on July 11, 2016, 03:45:33 PM
Makes no difference where you live.  Nature will balance it out with something.   :tongue:  You pick a location and be aware of what's out there.  After all we're the invaders and nature is adjusting to us.  Uhh......how's that for a philosophical view???  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

  :laugh: Like right now we are under invasion by those little tiny ants , millions of them , everywhere, going about there industrious lives . Oh well , better our little guys than those Crazy Rasberry Ants or Fire Ants like they have in Texas . Did I mention the Red Wasps , aggressive ferocious nasty things , or the mosquitoes , billions of 'em , all bent on making my life unpleasant  :sad: At least we aren't infested with folks from up North now that the oil bidness is bust  :evil:

 Dusty
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: charlie b on July 11, 2016, 04:19:28 PM
But I was referring to centipedes, not scorpions.

So, since centipedes do not have 6 legs are they insects?  ;)

Really doesn't matter to me.  They are all creepy, crawly or creepy, flying things that bite/sting and if they are near me or in the house I will kill them :)
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Tom on July 11, 2016, 04:24:39 PM
 :1: big time.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on July 17, 2016, 12:43:15 AM
  Well sitting on my couch watching TV when I realized just how much worse my experience could have been.
 On TV was a program titled, " Sex sent me to the E.R.
 On came an episode where a young couple visiting Hawaii had been making whoopie out of doors when the girl  grabbed her crotch and screamed something stung me.  It got her where it wasn't one thing or the other.
 So throwing on their clothes they raced to the ER.  While waiting miserably for their turn, The guy screamed and began shucking his pants.  As his skivies dropped everyone in the waiting room screamed and retreated from him.  That's when the centipede was seen stinging him where his digeri doo was connected to his scrote.
 The dr. looked at the centipede and informed him that it was not one of the fatal varieties, that it was very painful though.  The couple agreed with him that yes that was true, it was very painful.  I cringed as I nodded my head in agreement, ever so thankful that I had not been as unfortunate as they.
Title: Re: one of the hazards of Hawaii
Post by: ITSec on July 17, 2016, 01:00:16 AM

So, since centipedes do not have 6 legs are they insects?  ;)


Nope - they're arthropods, more primitive than insects in general. They've had a few more hundred million years to learn how to be nasty!