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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: LaGrasta on July 14, 2016, 01:20:15 PM
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I was so excited to get there to embrace Guzzi in their homeland. Disappointed with my findings. I've been there a number of times, but not since owning my '10 V7cc. Scooters everywhere in Rome and Florence and Croatia too, very few cycles. Of them, Guzzi spotted I could count on one hand. There are so few.
No "real" dealerships anywhere either. At one "cycle shop" I was told Guzzi and the government is so corrupt, there can never prosper. Merchandise is a joke she said.
What's frustrating is Vespa is so well embraced and merchandised. You'd think they'd transfer those marketing efforts across all their brands. I literally bought not even a t shirt, nor even a photo of a bike or shop.
I really love my V7, so very satisfied. I guess that's what's most important. I just thought everyone should learn what I have, expected in Italy, they already had.
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You should have rode a 300 super instead of the Goose. :boozing:
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When I was in Italy, I saw a few H-D shops, scooters everywhere, and the only Guzzis I saw were in Rome, outside a MC Clubhouse.
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My experience was similar, only saw one new Guzzi on the road. A Stelvio. People asked me why I like Guzzi? While I was visiting my cousin he let me use his KZ750. Besides all the scooters I saw a good number of small Monsters.
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Was parked at a popular motorbike spot when an Italian couple walked up , looked at the Jackal , seemed a bit baffled , and asked if it is in fact Italian . He said he had never seen one.
Dusty
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Yes, I've heard this before, not many Guzzis owned by private parties in Italy. Yet around western National parks in the summer I have euro tourists come up to me when I'm on a Guzzi and ask me how I got it to the USA assuming I had it shipped over. :huh: Germany is supposed to be where more new Guzzis are sold than in any other euro country.
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Bikes sold in italy, 2016, from january to june.
MOTORCYCLES
1 BMW R 1200 GS Enduro 2,380
2 HONDA AFRICA TWIN Enduro 2,364
3 HONDA NC 750 X Enduro 1,861
4 YAMAHA MT-09 TRACER Turismo 1,836
5 DUCATI SCRAMBLER 800 Naked 1,525
6 BMW R 1200 GS ADVENTURE Enduro 1,290
7 DUCATI MULTISTRADA 1200 Turismo 1,012
8 YAMAHA MT-07 Naked 977
9 YAMAHA XSR 700 Naked 855
10 KAWASAKI Z 800 Naked 797
11 YAMAHA MT-09 Naked 706
12 KAWASAKI VERSYS 650 Enduro 697
13 TRIUMPH STREET TWIN Naked 621
14 HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL883N IRON 883 Custom 598
15 DUCATI HYPERMOTARD 939 / SP / HYPERSTRADA Supermotard 574
16 HONDA CB 500 X Turismo 562
17 BMW S 1000 XR Enduro 536
18 HARLEY-DAVIDSON XL1200X FORTY-EIGHT Custom 497
19 BMW R 1200 R Naked 476
20 MOTO GUZZI V7 STONE Naked 453
21 HONDA CB 500 F Naked 438
22 KAWASAKI ER-6N Naked 437
23 KTM 125 DUKE Naked 435
24 BMW F 800 GS Enduro 419
25 YAMAHA XSR 900 Naked 419
26 TRIUMPH TIGER 800 Enduro 412
27 DUCATI SCRAMBLER 400 Naked 409
28 TRIUMPH BONNEVILLE T120 Naked 390
29 DUCATI MONSTER 821 Naked 382
30 YAMAHA MT-125 Naked 370
31 DUCATI XDIAVEL Custom 365
32 BMW R 1200 RT Turismo 356
33 HONDA CB 650 F Naked 356
34 BMW F 700 GS Enduro 347
35 DUCATI MULTISTRADA 1200 ENDURO Enduro 346
36 BENELLI BN 302 Naked 345
37 BMW R NINE T Naked 322
38 KTM 390 DUKE Naked 307
39 YAMAHA XT 1200 Z Enduro 304
40 HONDA CB 125F Naked 294
41 KAWASAKI VERSYS 1000 Enduro 291
42 SUZUKI DL 1000 V-STROM Enduro 282
43 BMW F 800 R Naked 275
44 BMW R 1200 RS Turismo 274
45 YAMAHA MT-03 ABS Naked 273
46 YAMAHA YZF-R1 Sportive 243
47 KTM 1290 SUPER ADVENTURE Enduro 240
48 SUZUKI DL 650 XT V-STROM Enduro 236
49 YAMAHA WR 125 X Supermotard 234
50 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FLHXS STREET GLIDE SPECIAL Custom 232
51 DUCATI 1299 PANIGALE / 1299 PANIGALE S Sportive 231
52 HONDA CROSSRUNNER Turismo 231
53 SUZUKI SV 650 ABS Naked 225
54 DUCATI 959 PANIGALE Sportive 219
55 KAWASAKI VULCAN S Custom 219
56 KTM SUPER DUKE R 1290 Naked 214
57 KTM 1190 ADVENTURE Enduro 210
58 KAWASAKI Z300 Naked 196
59 SUZUKI DL 650 V-STROM Enduro 194
60 BMW S 1000 RR Sportive 191
61 YAMAHA XV950 Custom 190
62 KAWASAKI NINJA ZX-10R Sportive 188
63 KTM 300 EXC Enduro 188
64 KTM 125 EXC Enduro 187
65 YAMAHA MT-10 Naked 187
66 HONDA CROSSTOURER Turismo 186
67 TRIUMPH SPEED TRIPLE 1050 Naked 183
68 ENFIELD BULLET 500 Turismo 174
69 HONDA/MONTESA COTA 4RT Trial 173
70 BETA EVO 2T 300 Trial 171
71 KAWASAKI Z1000 SX Turismo 168
72 BETA RR 2T 300 MONOPOSTO Enduro 165
73 KTM 690 SMC R Supermotard 165
74 MOTO GUZZI V9 BOBBER Naked 164
75 YAMAHA YZF-R125 Sportive 163
76 KTM 350 EXC-F Enduro 154
77 KTM RC 125 Sportive 154
78 KTM 1050 ADVENTURE Enduro 153
79 TRIUMPH STREET TRIPLE Naked 153
80 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FLSS SOFTAIL SLIM S Custom 150
81 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FXDB103 DYNA STREET BOB Custom 149
82 MOTO GUZZI V7 SPECIAL Naked 149
83 TRIUMPH BONNEVILLE Naked 148
84 DUCATI MONSTER 1200 R Naked 145
85 HUSQVARNA 701 SUPERMOTO Supermotard 142
86 KTM 690 DUKE Naked 141
87 SUZUKI GSX-S 1000 Naked 138
88 TRIUMPH TIGER 1200 EXPLORER Turismo 137
89 APRILIA TUONO V4 1100 RR Naked 134
90 BMW S 1000 R Naked 131
91 KEEWAY RKW 125 Naked 129
92 FANTIC MOTOR CABALLERO 125 Enduro 128
93 KAWASAKI Z1000 Naked 121
94 YAMAHA YZF-R3 Sportive 121
95 HONDA NC 750 S Naked 120
96 TRIUMPH THRUXTON 1200 Naked 120
97 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FXSB BREAKOUT Custom 119
98 APRILIA DORSODURO 750 Supermotard 117
99 KTM 1190 ADVENTURE R Enduro 115
100 HARLEY-DAVIDSON FLTRXS ROAD GLIDE SPECIAL Custom 114
California 102; V9 Roamer 98
SCOOTERS
1 HONDA ITALIA SH 300 4,845
2 HONDA ITALIA SH 150 4,673
3 HONDA ITALIA SH 125 4,102
4 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 300 3,883
5 YAMAHA TMAX 500 2,752
6 KYMCO AGILITY 125 R16 2,721
7 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 350 2,126
8 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 ABS 2,016
9 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 300 SUPER 1,905
10 YAMAHA XMAX 250 1,897
11 HONDA INTEGRA 1,757
12 KYMCO AGILITY 200I R16 1,496
13 PIAGGIO VESPA PRIMAVERA 125 1,449
14 KYMCO DOWNTOWN 350I ABS 1,342
15 YAMAHA XMAX 400 1,297
16 KYMCO PEOPLE ONE 125I 1,225
17 YAMAHA XENTER 150 992
18 KYMCO PEOPLE GTI 300 951
19 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 150 ABS 941
20 PEUGEOT TWEET 125 922
21 BMW C 650 SPORT 830
22 HONDA SH MODE 125 768
23 PIAGGIO BEVERLY 125 726
24 KYMCO DOWNTOWN 300 663
25 YAMAHA TRICITY 125 656
26 PIAGGIO MEDLEY 125 654
27 PIAGGIO MEDLEY 150 635
28 YAMAHA XENTER 125 617
29 KYMCO XCITING 400I 615
30 APRILIA SCARABEO 100 4T 612
31 PEUGEOT TWEET 150 608
32 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 3V 595
33 HONDA FORZA 300 580
34 YAMAHA NMAX 125 525
35 PIAGGIO VESPA PRIMAVERA 150 519
36 KAWASAKI J300 452
37 SYM SYMPHONY 125 452
38 PIAGGIO VESPA PX 150 445
39 YAMAHA X-CITY 250 422
40 SYM SYMPHONY 125 ST 396
41 SUZUKI AN 400 BURGMAN ABS 374
42 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRINT 125 357
43 SYM SYMPHONY 200 ST 344
44 SUZUKI ADDRESS 110 341
45 SUZUKI AN 650 BURGMAN 331
46 HONDA FORZA 125 ABS 317
47 PIAGGIO MP3 300 LT 317
48 HONDA ITALIA PCX 125 316
49 LML NV 125 313
50 BMW C 650 GT 309
51 YAMAHA XMAX 125 283
52 HONDA ITALIA VISION 110 276
53 KYMCO PEOPLE GTI 200 265
54 PIAGGIO VESPA PX 125 256
55 KYMCO K-XCT 300I 231
56 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 150 3V 224
57 YAMAHA D'ELIGHT 220
58 KYMCO G-DINK 300I 217
59 SYM CITYCOM S.300I 213
60 KYMCO X-TOWN 300I 211
61 KYMCO LIKE 125 207
62 PIAGGIO MP3 300 YOURBAN 202
63 LML STAR 200 200
64 SYM SYMPHONY 150 197
65 KYMCO DINK 200 E3 195
66 SYM HD2 200 176
67 SUZUKI UH 200 BURGMAN ABS 156
68 KYMCO AGILITY 125 CARRY 150
69 HONDA ITALIA PCX 150 149
70 SYM JOYRIDE 200 EVO 149
71 LONGJIA TREVIS 125 137
72 KYMCO LIKE 200I 129
73 KYMCO PEOPLE GTI 125 122
74 LML NV 150 122
75 KYMCO DINK 125 E3 119
76 SYM JOYMAX 300 MY12 118
77 LML STAR DELUXE 150 111
78 HONDA SW-T 400 106
79 KEEWAY DIERRE 125 EFI 97
80 LML STAR 4T LITE 91
81 SYM FIDDLE III 125 88
82 PIAGGIO MP3 500 LT 85
83 KEEWAY CITY BLADE 125 83
84 KEEWAY DIERRE 150 EFI 79
85 APRILIA SCARABEO 125 77
86 PIAGGIO MP3 300 LT YOURBAN 76
87 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 125 RST 75
88 PEUGEOT DJANGO 151 71
89 PEUGEOT METROPOLIS 67
90 BENELLI ZENZERO 350 66
91 PIAGGIO X10 350 65
92 BENELLI MACIS 150 64
93 KYMCO DOWNTOWN 125 64
94 PIAGGIO VESPA GTS 125 SUPER 64
95 LML STAR 125 4T AUTOMATICA 61
96 KYMCO G-DINK 125I 60
97 APRILIA SCARABEO 200 59
98 PIAGGIO TYPHOON 125 58
99 SYM HD 125 56
100 KAWASAKI J 125 55
50CC
1 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 50 4T 3V Scooter 1.439
2 APRILIA SCARABEO 50 2T Scooter 997
3 PIAGGIO VESPA PRIMAVERA 50 Scooter 597
4 PIAGGIO VESPA PRIMAVERA 50 4T Scooter 597
5 YAMAHA AEROX Scooter 365
6 BETA RR 50 ENDURO Plurimarcia 361
7 PIAGGIO ZIP 50 2T Scooter 355
8 APRILIA SCARABEO 50 4T 4V Scooter 343
9 KYMCO AGILITY 50 R16 2T Scooter 292
10 HONDA ITALIA VISION 50 Scooter 273
11 BETA RR 50 MOTARD Plurimarcia 258
12 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 50 RST 2T Scooter 256
13 PEUGEOT TWEET 50 Scooter 246
14 KYMCO AGILITY 50 R16 Scooter 245
15 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 50 RST 4T Scooter 242
16 YAMAHA BW'S Scooter 218
17 PEUGEOT KISBEE 50 Scooter 199
18 KYMCO AGILITY 50 Scooter 198
19 PIAGGIO NRG POWER DD Scooter 173
20 PIAGGIO TYPHOON Scooter 168
21 APRILIA SR MOTARD 50 Scooter 152
22 KYMCO SUPER 8 50 2T Scooter 142
23 FANTIC MOTOR CABALLERO 50 Plurimarcia 141
24 YAMAHA NEO'S Scooter 135
25 ASKOLL ES1 Scooter 134
26 APRILIA SR 50 R Scooter 132
27 HONDA DERAPAGE 50 HM Plurimarcia 128
28 SYM SYMPHONY 50 Scooter 128
29 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRINT 50 2T Scooter 126
30 PIAGGIO VESPA SPRINT 50 4T Scooter 115
31 SYM SYMPHONY 50 ST Scooter 109
32 KYMCO AGILITY 50 CARRY Scooter 101
33 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 50 4T Scooter 100
34 GENERIC TRIGGER SM Plurimarcia 90
35 KEEWAY F-ACT 50 EVO Scooter 86
36 KYMCO LIKE 50 2T Scooter 70
37 GILERA RUNNER RST 50 Scooter 68
38 HONDA CRE 50 BAJA HM Plurimarcia 61
39 APRILIA SX 50 Plurimarcia 57
40 KYMCO AGILITY RS 50 2T NAKED Scooter 55
41 APRILIA SR 50 Scooter 52
42 VALENTI RACING RME 50 Plurimarcia 51
43 KYMCO LIKE 50 4T Scooter 48
44 SYM MIO 50 4T Scooter 48
45 LONGJIA LJ50QT-8M Scooter 45
46 YAMAHA NEO'S 4T Scooter 44
47 PIAGGIO NRG POWER DT Scooter 43
48 RIEJU RS SPORT 2T Scooter 43
49 YAMAHA JOG-R Scooter 43
50 KYMCO PEOPLE 50 Scooter 39
51 LONGJIA LJ50QT-2L Scooter 39
52 SYM JET 4 R 50 2T Scooter 39
53 YAMAHA BW'S EASY Scooter 38
54 SYM SYMPHONY SR 50 Scooter 37
55 GENERIC ROC 50 2T Scooter 36
56 BENELLI 49X Scooter 35
57 FOSHAN GIPSY 50 Scooter 35
58 PIAGGIO LIBERTY 50 2T Scooter 35
59 PIAGGIO FLY 50 4T Scooter 33
60 PEUGEOT SPEEDFIGHT4 LIQUIDO Scooter 31
61 KYMCO SUPER 8 50 4T Scooter 30
62 YAMAHA TZR 50 Plurimarcia 30
63 APRILIA RS4 50 Plurimarcia 28
64 BENELLI PEPE 50 2T Scooter 28
65 PIAGGIO ZIP 50 4T Scooter 27
66 KEEWAY RY6 50 Scooter 26
67 SLANE XLS11-FM Scooter 26
68 PIAGGIO ZIP 50 SP Scooter 25
69 RIEJU MRT 50 SM Plurimarcia 23
70 GENERIC EPICO 50 2T Scooter 21
71 KYMCO MXU 50 ATV 20
72 SYM FIDDLE III 50 Scooter 20
73 YAMAHA NEO'S EASY Scooter 20
74 AEON REVO 50 ATV 19
75 LONGJIA TREVIS 50 4T Scooter 17
76 SYM FIDDLE II 50 S Scooter 17
77 WANGYE FINE Scooter 17
78 EEEEFUN E45GT Scooter 16
79 GENERIC TRIGGER X Plurimarcia 16
80 MALAGUTI DVD 50 Scooter 16
81 OKAI ES16 Scooter 16
82 VALENTI RACING SM 50 Plurimarcia 16
83 IMF IND. PTIO 4T Scooter 15
84 DERBI SENDA SM X-TREME Plurimarcia 14
85 TGB TAPO Scooter 14
86 YAMAHA AEROX 4T Scooter 14
87 DERBI VARIANT 2T Scooter 13
88 KEEWAY ZAHARA 50 2T Scooter 13
89 PEUGEOT DJANGO 50 2T Scooter 12
90 YAMAHA WHY Scooter 12
91 IMF IND. PTIO 2T Scooter 11
92 MALAGUTI PHANTOM F12 AC Scooter 11
93 APRILIA RX 50 Plurimarcia 10
94 DERBI SENDA R X-TREME Plurimarcia 10
95 PEUGEOT NEW VIVACITY 50 4T Scooter 10
96 PEUGEOT SPEEDFIGHT4 ARIA Scooter 10
97 PIAGGIO VESPA 50 ET2 Scooter 10
98 APRILIA SCARABEO 50 4T Scooter 9
99 FOSHAN LAMBRETTA 50 Scooter 9
100 GARELLI GSP 50 2T Scooter 9
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During my trip to Italy year before last, we saw very, very few Guzzi bikes. That includes riding to our visit at the factory in Mandello!
We had an Italian guide for a day and he was on a BMW GS! We saw plenty of those on the road.
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I took a great guided tour of EU with my wife and two daughters two summers ago. Over thirteen days I saw 11.
London 0 Guzzi
Paris 4 Guzzi An Aluminum, Orange Griso, 8v Griso and Breva 750
Road to Lucern 2 Guzzi Norge 8v and an Ambo/Eldo not sure which
Lugono 1 Guzzi 8v Sport
Italian Autostrada outside Verona 1 Guzzi Ev Touring
Montacatini 2 Guzzi v7 cafe and v7 classic
Somewhere in Italy 1 Guzzi can't recall where Stelvio
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So this wasn't just MY experience. This leads me to ask why? These are awesome fun bikes, unique, historical, priced well too. No race teams maybe? Poor marketing for sure, can't even bike a sticker or a key chain.
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So this wasn't just MY experience. This leads me to ask why? These are awesome fun bikes, unique, historical, priced well too. No race teams maybe? Poor marketing for sure, can't even bike a sticker or a key chain.
Look, they only make about 7k of these things a year. And we only get maybe 10% of that here. Maybe they only give Italy that much or less to sell.
I'm just glad I've got mine.
Dean
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We rented a Guzzi from Agostini in '08 which we rode in the Dolomites for over a week. We noticed the conspicuous absence of Guzzis too. Lot of Harleys though.
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Part of the reason Moto Guzzi appeals to me is their rarity. I continue to hope they sell enough new product to stay in business.
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Same for me on all my trips to Italy.
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I was so excited to get there to embrace Guzzi in their homeland. Disappointed with my findings. I've been there a number of times, but not since owning my '10 V7cc. Scooters everywhere in Rome and Florence and Croatia too, very few cycles. Of them, Guzzi spotted I could count on one hand. There are so few.
No "real" dealerships anywhere either. At one "cycle shop" I was told Guzzi and the government is so corrupt, there can never prosper. Merchandise is a joke she said.
What's frustrating is Vespa is so well embraced and merchandised. You'd think they'd transfer those marketing efforts across all their brands. I literally bought not even a t shirt, nor even a photo of a bike or shop.
I really love my V7, so very satisfied. I guess that's what's most important. I just thought everyone should learn what I have, expected in Italy, they already had.
Was it still flooded at Como ?