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Title: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: willowstreetguzziguy on July 23, 2016, 09:02:40 PM

I like to keep track of temperature fluctuations when I ride and was wondering where the sensor measures the air temp on my 1200 Sport?

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: Bisbonian on July 23, 2016, 09:17:12 PM

For the thermometer you read on the dash?

I think it's in the dash.

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: willowstreetguzziguy on July 23, 2016, 10:19:13 PM

So it's in the dash & faces forward behind the fairing?

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: ITSec on July 23, 2016, 11:18:25 PM

I'm not sure it's in the dash; the one used for the ECU's fuel injection control is located on top of the airbox and I think the dash gets its info from that.

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: Kev m on July 24, 2016, 02:24:54 AM

If it's the same as the Breva 1100 (off the top of my head):

Temp display sensor - dash
Intake air temp (IAT) - top of under tank
Engine temp (ETS) - top of right cylinder

I've never seen an ambient temp display use the intake air temp because it would be wildly inaccurate due to engine heat.

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: Wayne Orwig on July 24, 2016, 09:08:13 AM

The ECU has a separate air sensor input.
Where it is physically, I don't have a clue.

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: willowstreetguzziguy on July 24, 2016, 09:28:12 AM

I meant the ambient temperature sensor for the outside air

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: pete roper on July 24, 2016, 10:09:19 AM

I'm pretty sure it's cable tied up on the bracketry that holds the dash. I had one apart last week so I should remember but can't! :grin:

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: ITSec on July 24, 2016, 02:00:21 PM

Quote from: Kev m on July 24, 2016, 02:24:54 AM

If it's the same as the Breva 1100 (off the top of my head):

Temp display sensor - dash
Intake air temp (IAT) - top of under tank
Engine temp (ETS) - top of right cylinder

I've never seen an ambient temp display use the intake air temp because it would be wildly inaccurate due to engine heat.

The temp display on my Norge shows the same high level of accuracy and consistency as the mileage display. It's only reliable when the bike is sitting still, preferably not running, and in the shade. Sorta like the broken clock, it's accurate at least twice a day (once, for you military types).

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: Kiwi Dave on July 24, 2016, 11:56:29 PM

Quote from: pete roper on July 24, 2016, 10:09:19 AM

I'm pretty sure it's cable tied up on the bracketry that holds the dash. I had one apart last week so I should remember but can't! :grin:

Yep, that's where it is -next to the emergency flasher button and the heated grips control (if fitted).

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: pete roper on July 25, 2016, 02:26:05 AM

Thanks Dave, so I'm not completely senile yet!   :grin:

Title: Re: Where's the temperature sensor on a 1200 Sport?
Post by: Kev m on July 26, 2016, 06:17:15 PM

Quote from: ITSec on July 24, 2016, 02:00:21 PM

The temp display on my Norge shows the same high level of accuracy and consistency as the mileage display. It's only reliable when the bike is sitting still, preferably not running, and in the shade. Sorta like the broken clock, it's accurate at least twice a day (once, for you military types).

I've been a fan of ambient temp gauges on my bikes and cars for the last decade or so. They've all been about the same degree of accurate, meaning pretty damn close as long as they weren't just parked in the sun or sitting idling for a while.

That said, even if my dash gauge just read 100°F the other great on the V7 after sitting in the sun following 60+ miles in 96°F hear, it quickly dropped back to ambient temp within a few more hot miles.