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Title: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: chuck peterson on July 26, 2016, 07:05:28 AM
Anyone? anyone? ....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhiCFdWeQfA

Not a great report from the dealer, but then again, not a lot of anything moving...
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: lucydad on July 26, 2016, 07:55:41 AM
Chuck,

Anyone?  Not that I can tell.  If I could I would whack Guzzi management for being so obtuse as to end up with no dealer in Houston, TEXAS.
Fourth largest city in USA.  You can buy any brand here except Moto Guzzi. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POtndU2h8yI

Doubtful I will jump into a V9 until a Houston dealer is established.  Too much of a pain to go to Austin. I might get a fit of insanity when it cools off, maybe. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Penderic on July 26, 2016, 09:19:16 AM
Life goes on.....

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic002/backyard%20heaven_zpshw3gbi4j.jpg)
 :clock:
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: kirkemon on July 26, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
Not available in California yet. :shocked:
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Yeahoo Whoyah on July 26, 2016, 12:15:00 PM
Not available in California yet. :shocked:

And why is that? Most vehicles are 50-state compliant for emissions, right?
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: stevet on July 26, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
One of each V9 on the floor in Minneapolis.  Full line Guzzi and lots of scoooters.  Good shop, good people.  I was in there for parts last week, they are looking to deal here in mid summer.

http://millcitymoto.com (http://millcitymoto.com)

Steve.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: JeffOlson on July 26, 2016, 12:50:08 PM
MG Portland has sold at least one. MI in Seattle may have sold one, too.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: sib on July 26, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
One of each V9 on the floor in Minneapolis....
Likewise in RI
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Adan on July 26, 2016, 01:34:08 PM
California has its own emissions certification process.  I'm not sure whether any other state has its own certification process, they might all just go along with the federal certification.  The fact that the V9 hasn't received its CA certification doesn't necessarily mean that there's a problem, it might just be that Piaggio didn't handle the application properly. 

V9 is Euro 4 compliant, but I don't know offhand how Euro 4 compares to CA standards.

The Suzuki TU 250 is an example of a 49-state bike, never got certified in CA. 

I probably would have bought a V9 if it had arrived here when it did in other states.  But then I bought another rather expensive bike.   V9 is still on my radar but now maybe it will end up being a 2017, or a V7 III, or a used Griso . . .
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Adan on July 26, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
But its curious that not only has no one on this forum bought one, it seems like hardly anyone is even seriously thinking about it.

Or maybe that's to be expected.  The folks on this forum are more likely to pick one up used in a couple years.  As has been noted many times on here, Piaggio seems not to have been aiming at Guzzi enthusiasts when they designed the V9. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bad Chad on July 26, 2016, 02:11:45 PM
This forum is not a complete representation of guzzi riders. Hipster types and you ger folks do not frequent this board much.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: kevdog3019 on July 26, 2016, 02:29:11 PM
They waited so long to make a sb derivative with more ponies that a few of us decided to make our own.  Thankfully we did because none of us seem to be into the cruiser stuff.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Tom on July 26, 2016, 02:47:32 PM
A bunch of us rode it at John Day.  I'm okay with it.  Chuckie doesn't like it.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: lost on July 26, 2016, 06:32:07 PM
It seems to me the bike would be more useful if you could put the V7 gas tank on it.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 26, 2016, 06:45:59 PM
Im sure some of are hesitant to buy a first year in production machine (but not me)
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Arizona Wayne on July 26, 2016, 11:12:20 PM
California has its own emissions certification process.  I'm not sure whether any other state has its own certification process, they might all just go along with the federal certification.  The fact that the V9 hasn't received its CA certification doesn't necessarily mean that there's a problem, it might just be that Piaggio didn't handle the application properly. 

V9 is Euro 4 compliant, but I don't know offhand how Euro 4 compares to CA standards.

The Suzuki TU 250 is an example of a 49-state bike, never got certified in CA. 

I probably would have bought a V9 if it had arrived here when it did in other states.  But then I bought another rather expensive bike.   V9 is still on my radar but now maybe it will end up being a 2017, or a V7 III, or a used Griso . . .



If the new V9 isn't 50 state compliant I'll be surprised.  Kalifornia has a lot of MC buyers.   Quite frankly the only thing I see better about the current V9 is it has more hp.  It's looks are nothing to get excited about.   Maybe there are no hipsters with enough $ to buy 1 new.   :grin:
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Moto on July 26, 2016, 11:53:35 PM
It seems to me the bike would be more useful if you could put the V7 gas tank on it.

Do we know you can't? I think I remember looking at diagrams of the two frames and thinking that the gas tank area looked to be the same. But I could be wrong. (The area below and behind the seat differs.)

Moto
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Dean Rose on July 27, 2016, 07:23:49 AM
It seems to me the bike would be more useful if you could put the V7 gas tank on it.


 :1:

If I had the funds, I'd buy one to ride around here.


Dean
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: steven c on July 27, 2016, 07:26:55 AM
 Everyone is waiting for the discounts and rebates!
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Travlr on July 27, 2016, 08:42:05 AM
I may buy one.  But not in the current bobber/chopper configuration.

A V9 Breva might do it.

Moto Guzzi makes 4 styling kits for the V7.  I prefer the Dark Rider.
I suspect most of the parts will bolt on the V9.   So refreshed styling is easy for Guzzi to do.

M

http://www.garagemotoguzzi.com/en/
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Dean Rose on July 27, 2016, 09:48:40 AM

Moto Guzzi makes 4 styling kits for the V7.  I prefer the Dark Rider.
I suspect most of the parts will bolt on the V9.   So refreshed styling is easy for Guzzi to do.

M

http://www.garagemotoguzzi.com/en/


We'll never know until someone attempts to use the V7 parts on the V9.

Dean
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: motrhead on July 27, 2016, 10:08:05 AM
 I finally saw them in the flesh, and sat on the Bobber. I could see me on one. The Roamer just doesn't work. I can see it languishing on showroom floors for years to come.
 The Bobber looks "tough". I hope I get a chance to demo one this year.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Dogwalker on July 27, 2016, 10:32:24 AM
It seems to me the bike would be more useful if you could put the V7 gas tank on it.
Done already.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FRoAAOSw~oFXFPTK/$/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gSwAAOSwqbZXFPQQ/$/$_57.JPG)

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=225163177#

DogW
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Dean Rose on July 27, 2016, 10:33:58 AM
Done already.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FRoAAOSw~oFXFPTK/$/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gSwAAOSwqbZXFPQQ/$/$_57.JPG)

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=225163177#

DogW


Nice!

Dean
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: kirkemon on July 27, 2016, 10:49:45 AM
For me, the forks are too long, they look extended - please lower the front.

I'm waiting for the V9 to arrive at the dealers so better deals on V7 can be had :grin:
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Spuddy on July 27, 2016, 10:52:35 AM
CLEAN

Spud
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: wildebube on July 27, 2016, 12:58:21 PM
Now if you could just do something with the pegs.  For me they were too far forward for "normal" pegs, but not far enough forward for forward pegs.  They were just in this odd in between position that wasn't comfortable at all.  And they didn't look easy to relocate either.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Cool Runnings on July 27, 2016, 01:16:09 PM
One of each V9 on the floor in Minneapolis.  Full line Guzzi and lots of scoooters.  Good shop, good people.  I was in there for parts last week, they are looking to deal here in mid summer.

http://millcitymoto.com (http://millcitymoto.com)

Steve.

This where I purchased a Norge last November.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: DanD on July 27, 2016, 01:30:03 PM
Now if you could just do something with the pegs.  For me they were too far forward for "normal" pegs, but not far enough forward for forward pegs.  They were just in this odd in between position that wasn't comfortable at all.  And they didn't look easy to relocate either.

This.  :cool:
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: JeffOlson on July 27, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
Done already.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FRoAAOSw~oFXFPTK/$/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gSwAAOSwqbZXFPQQ/$/$_57.JPG)

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=225163177#

DogW

Very nice! And with a V7 seat, too!
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Tom on July 27, 2016, 04:31:53 PM
That's nice looking.  The Bobber's footpegs placement was something that I didn't like.  The performance of the engine, trans and suspension.  Chuck didn't like the gas tank because he couldn't put his knees into it in turns.  I was able to put rider input into the bars and did some tight hairpins going up to the John Day airport.  Sweepers coming down to the highway and concluded with a blast down the highway.  Brakes were good.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: thepittsburghguzzi on July 27, 2016, 06:17:23 PM
Ideal! Sign me up! :D



Done already.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FRoAAOSw~oFXFPTK/$/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gSwAAOSwqbZXFPQQ/$/$_57.JPG)

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=225163177#

DogW
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bpreynolds on September 18, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
Reviving this thread here somewhat.  Anyone buy one yet?  I've obsessively watched new Guzzi roll-outs for the last 13 years or so and it seems like the V9 variants seem the least purchased of any new Guzzis...at least by folks on this board.  Glancing at showroom floors of dealers in my 200 mile radius, seems like they are sitting there too. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Penderic on September 18, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
My turn.

Looks good.  :thumb:

Front forks are missing the shields /boots.  :huh: Easy enough.

Side covers need to be improved visually. Full size.  :blank:

Foot pegs do need more options for us riders. Maybe next year.  :huh:

Is it time to ECMIA daydream yet?


(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic002/tick_dispticket_zpsp7kk5myy.jpg)
Next!

Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Frulk on September 18, 2016, 03:39:54 PM
Salt Lake City MG dealer dropped the brand a few months ago.  Flew into San Antonio last weekend with the family for a 4-day mini vacation. Was stoked because Saturday after dropping the kids at 6 Flags I talked the wife into letting me lead foot it over to the SA Moto Guzzi dealer (as AF1 in Austin was just too far for the time I had Saturday). I literally sprinted into the showroom in anticipation of seeing an MGX21, Stornello, or at a minimum a Roamer. Standing there looking for the Guzzi's among all three color versions of the Thruxton R and a boat load of KTM's was the dealership manager. "Can I help you" he said with a smile. "Yes, I'm here to look at Moto Guzzi's".  "I'm sorry but we dropped the brand a month ago and shipped back what we had in inventory"  was his reply.... :cry: As I walked out the front door towards the rental car I almost went back in to ask if he'd sell me the printed window screen of the Moto Guzzi Logo he now had no use for.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: pikipiki on September 18, 2016, 03:58:24 PM
Done already.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/FRoAAOSw~oFXFPTK/$/$_57.JPG)
[img width=800 height=600]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/gSwAAOSwqbZXFPQQ/$/$_57.JPG[/img

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=225163177#

DogW


look at that!

beautiful.

they got all these parts, they all fit.

They could do some kind of special order service, build your Guzzi online, accept you will have to wait 3 months to recieve your bike and maybe pay a few hundred dollars over the list price of the regular fair.
Thats individuallity, let the individual choose.


But no, put all your eggs in one basket with a design untested with the buying public, waist more money on vomit-worthy marketing drivel, force your dealers to stock them, dealers have to heavily discount to sell or like above make thier own specials in line with what they know they can sell.

idiots.

bobber and roamer should be Guzzi Garage styling kits for the few people who would actually want the extremes of front wheel size!
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Triple Jim on September 18, 2016, 04:09:12 PM
Front forks are missing the shields /boots.

You sure?  They look a bit like the ones on my Ninja 250, which are very short, and press into the casting.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Penderic on September 18, 2016, 06:27:55 PM
 :azn:

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic002/yes_zpsgbqk9jfg.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Yeahoo Whoyah on September 18, 2016, 10:41:27 PM
I'm still looking for the V9's availability in California.  Anyone know when there due to arrive?
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Dogwalker on September 19, 2016, 03:15:24 AM
(http://doc-jensen.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/V9_classic5.jpg)

http://doc-jensen.de/moto-guzzi-v9-customizing/
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: steven c on September 19, 2016, 10:54:17 AM
Can you just swap the tank and seat? Or is some fabrication needed.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on September 19, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
 :evil:
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7467/26389046084_4398ec572c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GcUL2b)2016-05-13_04-15-39 (https://flic.kr/p/GcUL2b) by Charles Stottlemyer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/107188298@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: kirkemon on September 19, 2016, 04:14:40 PM
I'm still looking for the V9's availability in California.  Anyone know when there due to arrive?
I believe CA dealers have them now. The dealer in Santa Clarita is advertising them:
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcd/5772820475.html
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: rboe on September 19, 2016, 10:10:31 PM
The dealer in Reno stopped by the Nevada Rally in Dayton Nevada Saturday afternoon with a MGX21 (arrived that day) and a Bobber.

Looked good. MGX looks better in person than in the photo's.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: steamdriven NZ on September 20, 2016, 02:18:05 AM
I saw my first Roamer here in NZ a week or so ago. The owner got it down from Auckland because they had one and they hadn't gotten them here in Christchurch yet.
He had done 300km and seemed to like it. Wanted to put Agostini pipes on it (I have no idea if he meant Lafranconis or whether Ago's have a pipe ready for it...but anyway he was getting louder pipes for it) but dealer wouldn't send them until after first service.

It was his first Guzzi after 'having many other bikes" and wanted to buy an air cooled V-twin while they still made them....

It looked all right and I hope it sells well for Guzzi's sake. I guess the marque looked at who will get their wallets out and aimed at them. I'm not one of them and am unlikely to be considering new financial commitments but I think they will sell a few here. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: JJ on September 20, 2016, 09:58:09 AM
Seen at the New Mexico Guzzi Rally in Datil last month.  Nice looking bike, IMHO.  Kind of "Sportster-like!" :1: :thumb:  Rider was from CO...and said he liked it!

By the way, Guzzi dealer in Prescott, AZ has a new V9 Roamer, Bobber, and Stornello on the floor now! :cool:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/bFSYfa/IMG_0071.jpg) (http://ibb.co/bFSYfa)
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: kirkemon on September 20, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
(http://doc-jensen.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/V9_classic5.jpg)
Now if the forks were shorter.....
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Adan on September 20, 2016, 12:35:25 PM
V9's are in California, so I've started scheming a financial scenario to get a Bobber.  Videos on youtube of both Agostini and Mistral for the V9.  I'm partial to Mistral but they both sound good. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bpreynolds on September 22, 2016, 06:32:19 PM
When the V7 first came out, seems like folks were buying them like hotcakes around here - well, hotcakes for Guzzis anyhow.  And later years these sales numbers were bank and you saw dealers were getting more of them to stock because they were selling.  I have absolutely nothing but armchair experience to base this on but initially I am beginning to wonder if maybe Guzzi missed the mark with the V9, and by mark I mean only the chance at sales.  They had a proven and desirable platform in the V7 and instead of capitalizing on this by sticking that new engine in it, they instead offered a bike that seems to not be selling as well and possibly confounding others who were considering a V7 - now possibly just content to wait until the V9 engine appears in a V7 platform.  Anyhow, just my thoughts and taking nothing away from the new bike; rather, I'm here just talking about sales. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: keener on September 22, 2016, 09:21:46 PM
When the V7 first came out, seems like folks were buying them like hotcakes around here - well, hotcakes for Guzzis anyhow.  And later years these sales numbers were bank and you saw dealers were getting more of them to stock because they were selling.  I have absolutely nothing but armchair experience to base this on but initially I am beginning to wonder if maybe Guzzi missed the mark with the V9, and by mark I mean only the chance at sales.  They had a proven and desirable platform in the V7 and instead of capitalizing on this by sticking that new engine in it, they instead offered a bike that seems to not be selling as well and possibly confounding others who were considering a V7 - now possibly just content to wait until the V9 engine appears in a V7 platform.  Anyhow, just my thoughts and taking nothing away from the new bike; rather, I'm here just talking about sales.

i think you hit the proverbial nail right on the head there ...and i also think the current V9 bikes need a fresh start..
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on September 22, 2016, 09:45:55 PM
Looks better with the V7 tank & seat, still looks goofy tho with the sky hi bars and long spindly fork :-/

Either way the peg placement is a deal breaker for me
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 01:09:54 AM
The dealer in Chandler, AZ has a Bobber, Roamer, 1400 Eldorado, black Audace, Mandello red Audace, MGX21 on the floor & 2 V7 racers chrome tank and one that looks like a V7 II.  PLUS they have a bunch of Triumphs.  Speed Triples, America, T100 etc.  and 2 Rocket III's.  One basic and one tourer.  Huge dealership.  Indians - all variants.  Ducati's, Honda's, Yamaha's, Suzukis, HD's, Beemers, Spyders & some other 3 wheeler.  ATV's too.  Surprised not to see Victory.  I wanted to see the Octane.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: jkristjan on September 23, 2016, 04:53:27 AM
Owner of V9 Bobber here. Got it on August 5th, have put some 2600 miles on it as of today. I'm quite satisfied with the bike, haven't had a problem and as far as everything else is concerned, it is an entry level bike with ABS, Euro4 and 3 year warranty. Price was EUR 8990 so it competes fine with it's rivals like Triumph Bonneville, Ducatti Scrambler, Kawasaki W800, Harley Street 750, etc.

I have noticed that this bike is not understood by the old Guzzi fans and that seems to be the intention. I knew nothing of Guzzi before this, it's just a "modern retro" bike that competes with others on paper, i.e. price, warranty, features, maintenance ease & cost. For example, I just wanted a mid-size shaft driven on-road bike with entry level price. Most of the entry level bikes of other manufacturers have chains, so, enter Guzzi. Or, take Honda Vt750c2b for example - a very nice bike and superior to V9 in many respects, but no ABS and a rear drum brake -> puke.

The V9, especially the Bobber, is what I'd call a "crossover" bike. It's a cross-over between cruiser, scrambler, classic, naked, standard, retro, bobber, ratrod, modern (modern as in it has abs, efi, traction control, trip computer). Again, it's just a bike for someone who compares the list of features and doesn't give a flying toss about the brand but is just after a good deal and bargain.

I personally disagree with the need to put V7 pieces on it but perhaps this is once again due to the fact that I'm just the modern "consumer" type of person. I don't mod, I don't customise, I don't service my own bike. I just compare the offers on the market, pick what seems best to me and consume it happily and carelessly. I'm all for practicality of course, the bigger the fuel tank the better, but I rather fill up than modify the bike, I mean, which one of the activities is easier and cheaper?

On the technical note, the only thing I dislike about the bike is the dry clutch, in my opinion, bikes need to have wet clutches because they last longer, so, again, less maintenance. Everything else is fine but just entry level, you get what you pay for. The cheap seat, the stiff non-adjustable suspension, flimsy switchgear etc - all usable and completely acceptable in this price bracket.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bpreynolds on September 23, 2016, 05:49:33 AM
Owner of V9 Bobber here. Got it on August 5th, have put some 2600 miles on it as of today. I'm quite satisfied with the bike, haven't had a problem and as far as everything else is concerned, it is an entry level bike with ABS, Euro4 and 3 year warranty. Price was EUR 8990 so it competes fine with it's rivals like Triumph Bonneville, Ducatti Scrambler, Kawasaki W800, Harley Street 750, etc.

I have noticed that this bike is not understood by the old Guzzi fans and that seems to be the intention. I knew nothing of Guzzi before this, it's just a "modern retro" bike that competes with others on paper, i.e. price, warranty, features, maintenance ease & cost. For example, I just wanted a mid-size shaft driven on-road bike with entry level price. Most of the entry level bikes of other manufacturers have chains, so, enter Guzzi. Or, take Honda Vt750c2b for example - a very nice bike and superior to V9 in many respects, but no ABS and a rear drum brake -> puke.

The V9, especially the Bobber, is what I'd call a "crossover" bike. It's a cross-over between cruiser, scrambler, classic, naked, standard, retro, bobber, ratrod, modern (modern as in it has abs, efi, traction control, trip computer). Again, it's just a bike for someone who compares the list of features and doesn't give a flying toss about the brand but is just after a good deal and bargain.

I personally disagree with the need to put V7 pieces on it but perhaps this is once again due to the fact that I'm just the modern "consumer" type of person. I don't mod, I don't customise, I don't service my own bike. I just compare the offers on the market, pick what seems best to me and consume it happily and carelessly. I'm all for practicality of course, the bigger the fuel tank the better, but I rather fill up than modify the bike, I mean, which one of the activities is easier and cheaper?

On the technical note, the only thing I dislike about the bike is the dry clutch, in my opinion, bikes need to have wet clutches because they last longer, so, again, less maintenance. Everything else is fine but just entry level, you get what you pay for. The cheap seat, the stiff non-adjustable suspension, flimsy switchgear etc - all usable and completely acceptable in this price bracket.
Finally!  We have a new owner!  How about some pics???  I assume you are in Europe?  How many kilometers per tank are you getting on the bike now? 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: jkristjan on September 23, 2016, 07:00:22 AM
Finally!  We have a new owner!  How about some pics???  I assume you are in Europe?  How many kilometers per tank are you getting on the bike now?

Yes, well, I'm in the EU but actually/also in the USSR, Estonia to be more exact. The low fuel indicator comes on around 200km so it's easy maths in metric units: tank is 15 litres, consumption is around 5 litres per 100km, you get 200km before the light and up to 300km until it's absolutely dry. If you're real gentle on it and do extra-urban back-roads, you may get more because I've measured consumptions like 4.4l/100km in warmer weather. It's not such a long distance cruiser that you want to sit on it more than an hour straight, so I see no problem with range. Even if I took it to a road trip to Italy, I would pop in to at least every other gas station anyway, just to rest and stretch myself.


EDIT: I don't have pics and the camera on my phone is currently broken, but it's just the absolutely stock black version. Earlier this summer another bloke in Estonia reviewed the demo bike, the one that I also test-rode and that is a clone of every V9 sold over here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMgVLDCUdts


EDIT2: About the tank size and the design, to me it's quite obvious where they got their inspiration from. I mean, not particularly this or that model of Harley, but the general sportster-streetbob-etc concept. And this sort of Harleys tend to have the ridiculously small 2 gallon tank instead of the nearly 4 gallon one on V9. This also explains why there seems to be no interest towards the Roamer version though it's the prettier model. Roamer just does not make sense next to V7, they are redundant and V7 has quite some merits. But Bobber is a completely new concept for MG, they have not been on this market before: 
(http://thumb.ibb.co/mtDOfa/harley_guzzi.jpg) (http://ibb.co/mtDOfa)
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: rboe on September 23, 2016, 09:44:47 AM
Mission accomplished: New owners - that aren't part of the problem (old joke to old Guzzi riders ). :)
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Arizona Wayne on September 23, 2016, 12:59:49 PM
The Elk Grove, Ca. Guzzi dealer just south (HWY 99) of Sacramento has 13  bikes on display.  Don't remember if any of them was a V9 as I'm not looking for another Guzzi.   :huh:
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Moto on May 05, 2017, 08:42:51 PM
Well, someone bought one!

I just saw a Bobber pull up and stop for a minute in front of me as I was walking home. It gave me a strange feeling.

I had enough time to get an impression that surprised me. The blacked-out tank didn't stand out at all, even though I had already seen that it has a pretty unusual shape, in a showroom. I could see the little yellow checkerboard stripe on the top of the tank because I knew to look for it, but it would be noticeable only to the rider. The whole bike was solid-looking, dense, mid-sized, and not distinctively Guzzi-like, to me. At first it took me a few beats to recognize what it was. I was thinking Honda, though it is bigger than the old Honda v-twin.

The motor sounded good, and the rider took off with good low-speed torque up the hill, so it looked like a competent ride.

But the word that came to mind was "nondescript." A good commuter bike, functional, common-looking, maybe intended to compete in a market that doesn't interest me, as an earlier poster said.

Moto

EDIT: Forgot to mention the rider. Open-faced helmet, beard, young. A hipster, I suppose, not that I know too much about that.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Kev m on May 05, 2017, 08:49:27 PM
It's growing on me... But for similar money I'll probably buy another Sportster (CX) rather than another smallblock.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Tom on May 06, 2017, 02:42:46 PM
I'd replace the tank.  I have a spare V11 Sport Mandello Rosso tank.  Would look similar to a mini-red Audace.  :rolleyes:  Come to think about it I could put it on my black T3.  :shocked:  Then I'd have a Halloween bike.  :grin:
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bpreynolds on May 07, 2017, 08:30:17 AM
As the VIIIs begin to eventually filter over here, all those languishing Bobbers and Roamers are going to be even harder to sell with MSRP on the new Stones at, what, about $7500 something before freight and so forth?  But oh well, Guzzi having to discount non-current inventory is more with the grain than against it.  So far, the discounts are only applying to the V7II range, something I assume is in preparation for the arriving VIIIs, but I suspect they'll eventually have to offer incentives for the V9s as well.  That might be the time when you see many of them hopefully getting scooped up. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Kev m on May 07, 2017, 09:03:08 AM
As the VIIIs begin to eventually filter over here, all those languishing Bobbers and Roamers are going to be even harder to sell with MSRP on the new Stones at, what, about $7500 something before freight and so forth?  But oh well, Guzzi having to discount non-current inventory is more with the grain than against it.  So far, the discounts are only applying to the V7II range, something I assume is in preparation for the arriving VIIIs, but I suspect they'll eventually have to offer incentives for the V9s as well.  That might be the time when you see many of them hopefully getting scooped up.
I thought I saw $1k off V9s on the website the other day?
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bpreynolds on May 07, 2017, 09:21:15 AM
I thought I saw $1k off V9s on the website the other day?

My mistake.  You are correct.  :thumb: 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Adan on May 07, 2017, 10:24:08 AM
It's surprising how much attention my V9 gets, from riders and non-riders.  I've owned a Griso and a V7.  The Griso was similar in drawing attention everywhere.  The V7 got a fair bit of attention but not up there with the Griso and the V9.  I'm not saying that this is a reason to get a bike.  But in response to the comment about the V9 being "nondescript," I just have to point out that it doesn't feel that way riding around on it.

I think everyone knew the V9 would come down in price (got $500 off mine).  The V7 III arguably just represents a new marketing tactic for Guzzi of cutting to the chase and pricing bikes where they will eventually sell.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bpreynolds on May 07, 2017, 11:47:09 AM
Hey Adan, I think the bikes look fantastic and I have no qualms whatsoever with them; I just wonder why - at least to me - they don't seem like they are selling like the V7s.  And I'm just repeating myself here from earlier in the thread but it always has perplexed me a little why MG chose to use the new powerplant in an unproven sales model instead of just using the V7 platform. 
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 08, 2017, 10:49:27 AM
Hey Adan, I think the bikes look fantastic and I have no qualms whatsoever with them; I just wonder why - at least to me - they don't seem like they are selling like the V7s.  And I'm just repeating myself here from earlier in the thread but it always has perplexed me a little why MG chose to use the new powerplant in an unproven sales model instead of just using the V7 platform.
We (and the public in general) asked for hp and they supplied, hence the V9. They are now competing in what I consider a cruiser market. Tough task.  For those that think what I say is hogwash, then admit it's at least a "tweener" and not a true standard or cruiser. Therein lies a problem also. The V7 is a retro standard.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Jackr on May 09, 2017, 06:14:17 PM
I bought this V9 last July. About 12k mi now with lots more coming this spring/summer. As far as Guzzi's go, I've had three Californias, most recently a Jackal that I really liked and rode for many years. This V9 ain't no big block, but I like the size, weight, nimbleness, quickness, such like. Small gas tank, but with less weight and better gas mileage, same range as my Jackal (not saying much I know). I really like the look and feel - that's why I got this mother. Guzzi folks, some like it, some don't. I get lots of comments on the road, but then I got lots of comments on my Jackal. That's Guzzi I guess.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AscvM-1Q-K7Tf1HR-VqSdb4Vyas
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Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Kev m on May 09, 2017, 06:29:03 PM
I bought this V9 last July. About 12k mi now with lots more coming this spring/summer. As far as Guzzi's go, I've had three Californias, most recently a Jackal that I really liked and rode for many years. This V9 ain't no big block, but I like the size, weight, nimbleness, quickness, such like. Small gas tank, but with less weight and better gas mileage, same range as my Jackal (not saying much I know). I really like the look and feel - that's why I got this mother. Guzzi folks, some like it, some don't. I get lots of comments on the road, but then I got lots of comments on my Jackal. That's Guzzi I guess.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AscvM-1Q-K7Tf1HR-VqSdb4Vyas
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AscvM-1Q-K7TgQKvchyp68qX-q86
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AscvM-1Q-K7TgQGrH_nHHDwuntkG
As a former Jackal owner, sounds good to me.

Glad you're enjoying it!
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Lee Davis on May 09, 2017, 06:56:00 PM
Whew! What a group of prudes! The V9 is  the first bike I have really become interested in within the last 10 years. I rode one just tis past weekend, and I am sold. I think I shall pay cash for one within a few weeks, as soon as I have the money. The Roamer is the one for me. The handlebars on the Bobber are just too 'racer' for me... I guess I am old school. Actually, the most comfortable bike I have ever owned was a Yamaha 250 (or 350?) Exciter that I bought new in 1970 or '80, to commute. The handlebars were what made it for me, and I sure miss that bike.
    The V9 seems to be the perfect retro combination for a Moto Guzzi... like an upscale of the old loopframes (which I ride and restore).  I wish I had known about Moto Guzzi motorcycles back when I was a newbie. But, who could know? Anyway, I will get q new V9 Roamer in yellow in a week or two. I will update.  Lee Davis
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: bad Chad on May 09, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
Looks really good with those bags!
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: rocker59 on May 10, 2017, 09:41:07 AM
Whew! What a group of prudes! 

I'll bet you're a master at making friends and influencing people.

Is your last name "Carnegie" ?


Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: ScepticalScotty on May 10, 2017, 09:49:55 AM
That's a sweet looking bike Jack!!!
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: jpv7 on May 10, 2017, 12:11:07 PM
Was into the dealer up here a few weeks ago.  He told me that the V9 was selling well this spring...things have picked up.
Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: Adan on May 10, 2017, 12:21:38 PM
I bought this V9 last July. About 12k mi now with lots more coming this spring/summer. As far as Guzzi's go, I've had three Californias, most recently a Jackal that I really liked and rode for many years. This V9 ain't no big block, but I like the size, weight, nimbleness, quickness, such like. Small gas tank, but with less weight and better gas mileage, same range as my Jackal (not saying much I know). I really like the look and feel - that's why I got this mother. Guzzi folks, some like it, some don't. I get lots of comments on the road, but then I got lots of comments on my Jackal. That's Guzzi I guess.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AscvM-1Q-K7Tf1HR-VqSdb4Vyas
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AscvM-1Q-K7TgQKvchyp68qX-q86
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AscvM-1Q-K7TgQGrH_nHHDwuntkG

A little surpised you've gone 12,000 miles without a windscreen.  IMO, the ergonomics beg for one at about 55 mph and above.  But you are likely made of stronger stuff than I  :azn:

I've got those same bags and like them a lot.  Not spacious, but effective and look good proportionally on the V9.

Title: Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 10, 2017, 12:39:23 PM
I'll bet you're a master at making friends and influencing people.

Is your last name "Carnegie" ?

Ummm... I was thinking the same. Prudes??