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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: normzone on July 28, 2016, 08:27:50 PM
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Welcome everybody...You're watching our first episode of Bassa Talk, the on-forum show where we talk about things that happen on, near, or to the Bassa, or it's rider, me, or anything else you want to login and talk about.
For our initial episode today, just a brief mention that coming out of my dentist's office ( one crown, one root canal, 120,000 milligrams of ibuprofen, three months and $2300 out of pocket later ) I got a compliment on the Rat Bassa from a former Lamborghini owner who was on his way in.
I believed him even though he was driving a Toyota - he had that money look about him. Said he used to ride a two cylinder (forward and back) Morini long ago. I apologized for the Bassa's mistreated look and he brushed it off and said she still looks great.
And now for a word from our sponsor.
:popcorn:
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Uh , Norm , step away from the keyboard until the drugs wear off ...
Or ... tell us more after a word from your sponsor
Dusty
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We're here to HELP you, Norm...just put the wrench down...nobody has to get hurt...
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my second one was a dreamboat..
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Foto/i-QSf5vRW/0/L/IMG_2260-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Foto/i-QSf5vRW/A)
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/Foto/i-k4V248W/0/M/IMG_0116-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Foto/i-k4V248W/A)
my first one was white..
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Wait ... Norm are you angling for a spot on NPR ? Maybe thinking of filling the void left after Click and Clack retired ? LOL .
Dusty
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We're waiting Norm ...
Dusty
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Those were some pretty bikes, Brad.
Are you even going to get back on a Guzzi? Okay, it took me 8 years to come back...
Steve.
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" WHAT ? A candy bar for ONLY A NICKEL ? "
Damn, that was a deep nap. And my wife is on her way home, I'd better start the barbecue.
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So all of this build up ...
For what ???
Tease
Dusty
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As is so often the case, the fans whip themselves into a frenzy, then the season opener is not what they expected. Don't worry, this will serve as a place for appropriate " THE ADVENTURES OF JOSIE (echo, echo, echo...) (and her sidekick normzone) " rather than starting a new thread each time.
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You rode the Bassa home from the dentist with those drugs in your system?
Worries me.
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Thank you for your concern, but anytime I engage in real drugs I get chaperoned. And that doseage was spread out over two months trying to avoid the root canal, which, alas, was inevitable.
Riding buzzed is no fun anymore anyway. For me caffeine and adrenaline are the riding drugs of choice this century. Even one beer spoils the riding high. This was just an un-anethsitized stop to put a permanent plug in the root canal tunnel.
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I hope you have a soft landing tomorrow morning, Norm. If you don't, read this and have a laugh...even if it only hurts when you do.
:smiley:
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Bassa Talk has be re-worked by the network wizkids and will now feature a reality show format and renamed "The Bassa'erlor" where various hopefuls will attempt to mount the Bassa and ride into the sunset. At the end of the week one lucky rider will receive a pair of red suspenders whilst one unfortunate soul will be kicked out with only a map to the nearest BMW dealer and a $10 Starbucks card. Stay tuned as each week on the Bassa'erlor tension rises, oil weights are fought over and the episode where custom maps are introduce is sure to be the talk of the watercooler! Brought to you by America's favorite network MGC.
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Bassa'erlor :huh: :rolleyes: :laugh:
Dusty
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Wanna race?
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/jdalthaus/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/2016-07/95F1B149-9B07-4CE0-96DC-ED4C0D0B830F_zpszv6d5pdl.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/jdalthaus/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/2016-07/95F1B149-9B07-4CE0-96DC-ED4C0D0B830F_zpszv6d5pdl.jpg.html)
Yep it's a Bassa
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Good morning, this is Bassa Talk, with your host, normzone.
The bike runs great when it's cool, not so good when the weather heats up. Last night I put some Sea Foam in it, and this morning the bike purrs like a kitten - Damn, is that a cliche? Please excuse me.
So my question is, if the bike likes it that much, why don't I just run some in it all the time? Granted, I'm a Sea Foam abuser - a can usually gets divided between two tanks of fuel.
The sponsor of today's show is popcorn - How many foods are great when they're fresh, and even better when they're stale ?
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"How many foods are great when they're fresh, and even better when they're stale ?"
pizza
meatloaf
baked salmon
smoked salmon
macadamia nuts
lomi salmon
fried salmon
ok -- any salmon
fried chicken
pie
roasted turkey
turkey dressing
texas toast with drippings
turkey gravy
ok -- any turkey
those brownies I make
chili
most of the stuff in my glove box
those things I put in those brownies I make
jerky
any bug ingested on the outbound leg of a road trip
All dino
some synth
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Damn...breakfast was raisins and nuts from the snack machine, lunch was a can of sardines from my desk drawer.
Don't tell my wife. I promise you good eating if you get down this way.
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Some of your famous sardine soup?
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Actually, that was barbecue grilled sardines.
Don't tell [rodekyll], but based on the foods he listed I'd just go buy his shopping list and turn him loose in the kitchen as much as possible.
My dinner tonight will be ceviche and experimental eggplant, pan grilled then baked with barbecue sauce - my wife doesn't much care for eggplant so on nights when she works late I indulge.
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Way too many food commercials on this channel.
I'm switching over to "Centauros and You - A Love Story?"
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Oh man, I'm so jealous - I don't have that channel, but I hear great things about it. I'll have to wait until it's available on CD or Netflix.
The eggplant is delicious - although, as with so many things barbecue, it's probably the sauce.
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Last night I put some Sea Foam in it, and this morning the bike purrs like a kitten -
a can usually gets divided between two tanks of fuel.
Did you read the instructions? I think it's more like a cap full to a tank of gas..
Norm, has anyone else with knowledge ever diagnosed your bikes health?
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Oh, it's YOU again... :angry:
Just kidding. :wink:
Yeah, the product is labeled to encourage a wide range of doseage.
And several of my brethren here, your honorable self among them, have asked that question.
The answer is no. I spoke recently with my local shop, and they said they don't go there because they don't have an exhaust gas analyzer, and they think that tweaking throttle body balance only BEGINS with vacuum readings.
I have not created the cash appropriate to go see a forum approved tuner in Los Angeles or further north yet.
Based on what I read here, I think re-mapping is going to be the answer. The bike is pretty damn happy when it's cool and moist, and increasingly less so when it heats up.
And on the other end, when it's cold it can be grumpy about starting.
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There are several threads re TB sync , TPS settings , and the other variables involved in tuning this generation of engine . Rodekyll gives a very good description , as does Pete and Guzzisteve . They are here , I just don't know where . All it takes for equipment is a multimeter , and a homemade balancing tool that can be built for about 3 bucks . One of you pooter geniuses with a good memory help us out here .
Dusty
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In truth, I'd not be comfortable messing with any of the multitude of things with yellow locking goop on them, based on the threads I've read here.
The tuning threads I've seen either are for similar (yet slightly different) devices, and the repeated cautions I've read make me leery.
When I go down that road, it will be with pictures of my many yellow dots posted here, and me begging for instructions in short words. I kind of don't want to soak up that much of the forum for that purpose (you can tell how I REALLY want to use it :wink:)
I feel I should be prepared with a bucket of cash when I go see a tuner.
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Norm old buddy , it really isn't complicated , hell , anything beyond horse drawn carriages is voodoo to me , and I figured it out . Surely a man of your reading comprehension can do this , and if saving all of that money makes you feel guilty , there is a certain guy in Oklahoma that will gladly help with that. :rolleyes: We need a whistling emo :laugh:
Dusty
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Did you read the instructions? I think it's more like a cap full to a tank of gas..
Norm, has anyone else with knowledge ever diagnosed your bikes health?
I tried a big name fuel injector cleaner that your pour into the tank. Tried it three times and all three made the bike ping and that was in cooler weather up here in the Long Beach area. Without the cleaner, no ping.
EDIT: I wanted to add that I put the cleaner in with the approximate recommended dose.
EDIT 2: My '04 EVT has had a bit of a ping with the hot weather. Probably should shift to 4th gear while passing at 65mph instead of 5th.
My offer still can be had, don't know if it will help?
Tom
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................exp erimental eggplant........... .....
For some reason, that worries me, just a little.
Honey have you seen the knif............
kjf
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What you need is a tube of yellow torque seal.....
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What you need is a tube of yellow torque seal.....
For the experimental eggplant? <scratching head>
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I think he posted to the wrong
thread forum. :undecided:
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You guys are aware that Normzone was the lead geneticist on a large gov't program that bred 1,000LB zucchinis that were capable of locomotion . The idea was to use these giant zukes to pull farm implements and power well pumps in 3rd world countries . Seems the entire program was subverted when the gov't sold the technology to a commercial interest and same said interest shut it down and declared a huge loss . Sad to think what might have been . Point is , experimental eggplant is well within Norm's zone .
Dusty
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Bassa question: anyone know where I can get a set of the rubber grommets that hold on the sidecovers? I've already had a sidecover blow off. No luck at MG Cycle or Harpers for the exact OEM part.
Rich A
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I got my last ones from Eishes. Contact info in links, I believe
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Bassa question: anyone know where I can get a set of the rubber grommets that hold on the sidecovers? I've already had a sidecover blow off. No luck at MG Cycle or Harpers for the exact OEM part.
Rich A
Have you looked through the grommets at Ace Hardware?
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In truth, I'd not be comfortable messing with any of the multitude of things with yellow locking goop on them, based on the threads I've read here. This is what he needs yellow goop for, in case he screws it up he can remark it :evil: :grin:
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Have you looked through the grommets at Ace Hardware?
I don't recall seeing any oval ones there, and the fit is critical. The problem is that if a sidecover goes flying, it'll cost at least $100 for a replacement. Not a good design on several levels.
I'll check however.
Rich A
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No, you won't find any molded ones at Ace or any other hardware I'm familiar with. You "may" find a round one that will work. Call Ida Mae at Eish's.. or probably Curtis has it.
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Hey normzone, anywhere close to these?? If not he may have others.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-Side-Cover-Rubber-SET-750-850-1000-1100-Lemans-T-T3-G5-California-2-/182225137072 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-Side-Cover-Rubber-SET-750-850-1000-1100-Lemans-T-T3-G5-California-2-/182225137072)
Happy Hunting, Paul B :boozing:
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If those are the grommets, they can be had at MI -- at least I got a 4-some last year for my 'vert.
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GOOD MORNING to all of you - I'm your host, normzone, and this is BASSA TALK (echo "talk, talk, talk...)
A quick update about my former love affair with Sea Foam - we've decided to see less of each other in the future. We aren't breaking up, but you guys are right - enough is too much. I figured out that I was confusing running better with a simple inability to ping.
This post is really all about Josie's day at the spa yesterday - one of those mobile auto detailing guys came to my workplace, and he said he'd do motorcycles for twenty bucks. When I delivered mine to him, in all it's neglected glory, you could see his face fall.
I told him I knew it wasn't a twenty dollar job, and that I'd pay him what he thought was fair. When he was done he asked for forty bucks.
Much of the (I thought permanent) environmental damages she's accrued from sitting outdoors for 2 1/2 years has been undone. I fantasized briefly about a cover and then forgot about it, in keeping with the Bassa Rat philosophy. That money could be a tire, or some sashimi.
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I've a question for the map wizards out there in
radio internet land - How many differing maps are there that are designed to run on my Bassa? One, a couple, or many? And how are these differentiated - formal configuration management, or " Jon Doe #3 " and " Love Potion Number Nine " ?
As always, thank you so very much.
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I call the Jackal map Fred :huh: Actually I don't believe you have a mapping problem Norm , well , unless someone installed that map named Luigi , he can be problematic :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
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Belief systems can be complex and subject to interpretation, like this illusion that we are here riding Guzzis...
I still wonder about the maps though. If I was to hook up to Guzzi Diag, would my map have a name? It was installed around 2000, shortly after the bike was purchased.
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Hey normzone, anywhere close to these?? If not he may have others.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-Side-Cover-Rubber-SET-750-850-1000-1100-Lemans-T-T3-G5-California-2-/182225137072 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-Side-Cover-Rubber-SET-750-850-1000-1100-Lemans-T-T3-G5-California-2-/182225137072)
Happy Hunting, Paul B :boozing:
Nope, not the ones for the Bassa. I'm riding around with one sidecover off (it already came loose, and I was lucky to catch it with my leg. I've already lost one, just bought a spare on Ebay). Will call Eish--I don't think Harper's has the oem ones.
Rich A
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I still wonder about the maps though. If I was to hook up to Guzzi Diag, would my map have a name?
Yes.
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" at least I got a 4-some last year for my 'vert"
Four is my limit. No, WAS.
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Only 4? I think Norm took 8 this time. I need some.
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Today's ride report is brought to you by our sponsor:
" Fish "
This afternoon, after a hard day in the quality mines, I went up the 15 and cross-town to the Jo-Ann fabric store. The little tear I noticed in the seam of the Day-long seat 2 1/2 years ago, about a half inch long, was about and inch and a half long, and it was time to get off the dime.
" Unfortunately, the dime was in Mr. Rococo's pocket..."
They were pleased to see me in the store. I know there's a few fabric engineers here on this forum, but generally guys who like to sew are rare.
So I get some curved needles, and the guy at the cutting counter recommends the outdoor thread.
As I exit the store, an employee is a few steps behind me, so I hold the door. When we get outside, she says " So how was your day...I mean, for riding ? ". She's near my age, slender with short silver hair.
I'm surprised, and amused. I tell her that it's not too hot, and I had a good riding day. I have a lot of those.
She asks what kind of motorcycle I have. I tell her I have a Moto Guzzi.
She becomes visibly animated, and she starts scanning the parking lot.
There's a large pillar in her field of view, between her and my bike. I take a couple of steps starboard and gesture to Josie.
" My first boyfriend had a Moto Guzzi ... pause ... This was about forty years ago. It was a ... 1932? Did they make them then? "
We walked over and she marveled at Josie. She said her husband has a Honda " but it's nothing like this, of course ".
She described a tractor seat, with springs. Her dad worked in aerospace and made something to put on the back for her to sit on.
She said her boyfriend would take her home (blush) " to my parents ! ", and said " it didn't have a starter. He wore cowboy boots, and I still remember the beat of his boot heels on the road as he left, pushing it down the road to get it going fast enough to start. "
So we're standing there, and I tell her about the forum, and how this will be my ride report for the day.
While we're talking a one-armed guy carrying a motorcycle helmet comes out of the store. She comments on how two riders came in at the same time. He stops and shows us the velcro he bought to attach some piece of electronics. We watch him go to a bike betwixt two cars. All we can see is the rear wheel, and we speculate about what he's riding.
A Spyder or something of that ilk backs out, and he rides off. We cheer, and go our separate ways.
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" My first boyfriend had a Moto Guzzi..."
Norm, you had me worried for a bit.. not that there's anything wrong with that.. :smiley: :boozing:
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Don't ask, don't tell :wink:
She described a night ride up Palomar Mountain - some of you know that road.
She spoke of oil in a turn, and sliding off the road. " Brave girl that I was, I jumped right back on the bike and we went to (a restaurant or some place at the top) and I went in the bath room to wash the blood off my arm. I got one of those scabs - you know, the kind you can't bend your elbow because it will break. You can't see the scar now..."
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Unusual style of flirting , "wanna see my scars?" :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
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She described a night ride up Palomar Mountain - some of you know that road.
Yep, BTDT.
Nice tale.. and sounds like the kind of girl/women I like. :thumb:
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Unusual style of flirting , "wanna see my scars?" :shocked: :laugh:
Dusty
Isn't that what tattoos are -- battle scars on video game warriors?
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Here's a beauty in NJ for short money.
https://cnj.craigslist.org/mcy/5677379639.html
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Here's a beauty in NJ for short money.https://cnj.craigslist.org/mcy/5677379639.html
So my wife and I had a little talk, about the wisdom of filling the garage with white Bassas.
Since we don't have a garage the danger is low, but we agreed it would be fun.
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Why do I keep hearing ;
"My boyfriend's back, and you're gonna be in trouble" :shocked:
Dusty
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You might have to get off of Youtube, and try KCRW Eclectic 24.
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You might have to get off of Youtube, and try KCRW Eclectic 24.
Sorry , but one bad girl group at a time please :laugh:
Dusty
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Radio's on?
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And here we go again...
I bought the bike in January of 2014. It had a nominal 42,00 miles on it. The P.O. allowed as I might want to put a battery in it - he said that the current one was in good shape, but it had a few years on it, and that the last time it went south it had happened with no warning - he was getting fuel, and when he went to start up again it just went click.
So at 42,735 I put a new lead acid battery in it and proceeded to ride without a care into a summer heatwave.
At 46,275 that battery, mostly dry with plates showing, gave it up while I was getting lunch. I'll take that one - I'd forgotten how rapidly a battery can go dry, I guess. I got 3,500 miles out of that one.
So a new battery goes in - I don't recall if it was lead/acid or AGM. I rode that one until in changing the speedo cable I unintentionally pulled loose a connector that goes to the regulator. A few days later at 54,300 that battery gave it up at speed on the freeway. I got 8,100 out of that one.
Figured out that loose wire after much help from you guys, fixed it and moved on with an AGM. That one died in my parking spot at home at 55,800 shortly after the low fuel light made it's first appearance since I bought the bike. The light came on AFTER fueling up and stayed on. I disconnected sensor at the connection beneath the tank, checked all the charging numbers and they were good. So I wrote that one off to the low fuel sensor after only 1,500 miles and put another AGM in it.
Friday, I pulled into a fuel stop and the bike missed and sputtered as I made my entrance. I figured it was just lean from getting off the freeway, shut it down and fueled it. When I was done it wouldn't turn over. Battery four goes down at 60,000, after a life span of 4,200 miles.
With the help of friends (a big shout out to Dr. Gary of McDowell Chiropractic) I put another AGM in it and rode it home. I figure the battery had enough oomph to get me there and cost the same as a tow, and if it had anything left I could begin troubleshooting with it.
So I avoided the bike all day Saturday, and now here we are on Sunday morning. I'm going to start it, check the sacred numbers (key off, key on, while cranking, while idling, and while at cruising revs). Then I'll post those numbers and begin looking for ... well, I guess I'm hoping for a readily findable loose connection. All other options are downhill from that one.
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Sounds like it is over-charging Norm .
Dusty
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Thanks, Dusty.
I don't believe these number support that theory, but as we have repeatedly demonstrated here on the forum I don't always know what's going on.
Today, the meter sez....
Key off 11.99
Key on 11.66
Cranking 10.66
Idling 11.44
Cruise
revs 11.43
So...I think I've confirmed what I already knew. It's not charging properly. Damn I feel clever... :sad:
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Alrighty then , it isn't generating enough juice . Try charging the battery completely and rechecking . Humor us please .
Dusty
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Let's start with the humoring part.
I live in an apartment. So clever boy that I am, I just took a shovel and shaved off a little of the base of the hill ("green belt", now brown in our drought) in front of my apartment, cut a piece of plywood about one boot by two, and made myself a center-stand friendly spot in front of my door so I could work on the bike just a few steps away from home. Sure, it's in the kid play zone, but I'm really just a kid at heart, so...
I pulled the seat already, so I pull the side covers and gaze. I decide that the rectifier is a good place to start, so I go up front where I recently added the crash bars [Turin] so generously donated.
When I added the crash bars, they fastened down just above the regulator, and I had to reroute the regulator wires over the crash bar. This put them in the neighborhood of the fork stop thingy that is part of the frame.
So you know where this is going...Since sometime after I installed the crash bars, every time I turn the forks to the right I've been pinching some of the regulator wiring.
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Ahh , the story unfolds .
Dusty
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So you're saying "just a pinch" is too much sometimes? My motto: "Always look first where the last guy worked...even if it was me". :wink:
Terry
P. S. By the way, unplug the reg/rect and shine up the connectors while you are there. Makes a big difference if they are dirty.
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Thanks for the technical support, [CalVin2007] Paul, and for the (im)moral support, [oldbike54] Dusty.
Tech wizards that you are, I don't know if you can imagine how much better it makes me feel even just to see somebody post the :popcorn: emoji when I am working on Josie and thinking out loud here.
So the while the Chargers are playing the Vikings on the radio, the charger is on the battery.
I'm going to splice the cut yellow wire, shiny up the associated connectors, and see if the idling and cruising revs charge level goes up to where it's supposed to be. If I get lucky, that will be it (until the next time). If not, then it get's more expensive.
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Hey , I help where I can :laugh: Seriously , hard to diagnose a problem W/O all of the details .
Dusty
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Well, Dusty, I'm working on the local newspaper crossword while I wait for the battery to finish charging, I've got some details for you...City in Oklahoma, four letters.
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Well, Dusty, I'm working on the local newspaper crossword while I wait for the battery to finish charging, I've got some details for you...City in Oklahoma, four letters.
:undecided:
Gage .
Dusty
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Enid.
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Alex , Corn , Gore .
Where are ya Norm ?
Dusty
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My bike pinches the throttle cables when I turn right. Tying them off loosely a bit higher should help. The right crash bar has been tested so I can see why they are used.
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Right here, Dusty.
The charger (battery, not the guys who lost to the Vikings today) says 81% charged.
Key off, the meter says 13.25 volts
At idle, the meter reads 12.7 volts
At cruising revs, it reads 14.5 volts.
I think I'm riding to work tomorrow. Tonight, " I can haz cheezburger ".
I have no corroborating evidence yet for any of the four letter towns, but thanks to all of you.
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Success . Now give us another clue re the town in Oklahoma .
Dusty
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We may know some helpful four letter words as well,in case the charging problem is still...problematic .
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We may know some helpful four letter words as well,in case the charging problem is still...problematic .
I find that keeping a cheap wrench within arms length for the purposes of flinging across the yard can also be quite therapeutic .
Dusty
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A holdover from my automotive days...I like to keep a hammer near anything I'm working on.
You don't have to use it, but it helps to let the machine you're willing to if it's not cooperative.
When it comes to crosswords, I start them and do all the easy ones, then my wife (she married me, she's smart...right?) takes over and whomps some sense into it, then we toss it back and forth until we either give up or it is vanquished.
So she had to adjust "changechannels" to "switchchannels" in order to get ENID to fit. I'll let you know if that changes, we're a pen and correction tape kind of couple.
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So she had to adjust "changechannels" to "switchchannels" in order to get ENID to fit.
Some crossword rules to live by:
City in Oklahoma is always "ENID".
Town in Iowa is always "AMES".
Anything having to do with opera is probably "AIDA".
The words "ERNE" (Sea Eagle), "ORT" (morsel), and "ONER" (unusual thing) are never used outside of crossword puzzles, but show up often there.
"ERLE" Stanley Gardner is the most popular author in crosswords.
If you can vaguely relate it to "summer", it's probably "ETE".
"Feds" are always "GMEN" or "TMEN". Monsters are usually "OGRES".
The "LANAI" and "RIATA" are apparently words for "porch" and "lasso" somewhere .....
But what are you gonna do?
Lannis
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Lannis -
What I'm going to do, is substitute butter for silicone grease.
I saw a thread around here recently about the grommets that the side cover goes into. They wear and split - I noticed one of mine was, and went looking for silicone grease. Nope...
Thanks for sharing the wisdom - much of that is new to me, although my vocabulary includes a lot of century-old slang, so I've got GMEN before. And RIATA and LASSO are much the same...Damn, I miss horsing, although I've never had to rope one.
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Lannis -
What I'm going to do, is substitute butter for silicone grease.
You're also probably going to substitute "Rats" for "Cracked Grommets" in your garage ... !!!
Lannis
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I'm under orders to eat lunch today, or I'll be in trouble when I get home. So I roll on over to the local Jimbos, in the genteel neighborhood adjacent to our little industrial park.
I found a shady parking place betwixt the sport utility vehicles of a couple of high-dollar granola honeys, and I figured I could eat my lunch there before returning to work.
In the store, I settled on a smoked turkey and bacon sandwich (that's the Bill Hagon part of the story - no sashimi today).
I'm ringing up and the cashier, some new guy I've not seen before, asks what I'm riding. I tell him, and his response is " That's Italian, right? That's a legit bike - where is it ? "
Of course the soccer mom SERE vehicles are blocking the view, so I tell him I'll pull it in front of the doors as I leave so he can see it. So much for eating my sandwich in the shady spot, but I have a responsibility to the marque.
As I'm walking out he's alerting his coworkers to the impending event, and as I pull up and rev it twice he draws their attention to it and gives me a two thumbs up. The sacrifices we make to support Luigi...
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Now that you have some electrons flowing in the right direction.. take the time to put a ground wire on the regulator case and run it to a bolt on the engine case.
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Actually, that was barbecue grilled sardines.
Don't tell [rodekyll], but based on the foods he listed I'd just go buy his shopping list and turn him loose in the kitchen as much as possible.
My dinner tonight will be ceviche and experimental eggplant, pan grilled then baked with barbecue sauce - my wife doesn't much care for eggplant so on nights when she works late I indulge.
The man can make some lentil soup :food:
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Thank you very much [Chuck in Indiana] - I have done so. What is that they cry out over in the Middle East ?
" Ground is great ! "
Okay, I could have my " current " events mixed up.
[Matteo Manfredi], lentil soup ? I hope there's some salmon in it...
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I got lost on page one.
Dean
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Last couple of times I rode the bike light to light in town on a really hot day I noticed some drive line oil on the rear wheel & tire, patterned as a leak after parking. I figured it got hot and cooked some off through a blowby valve or something that I made up in my imagination.
I washed the bike and it was fine. Then it did it again, same cause pattern, and I saw that it came out of the hub.
That means a seal, which starts with S, which stands for aw sh!t ...
:shocked:
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So you have a rear end leak, might want to lay off the burritos at the local burger joint :evil:
Two things could be happening. Spline lube could be hot and dripping, or a seal has gone bad.
This excessively hot weather the last few days can cause all kinds of things that may not have shown up in cooler weather.
You already cleaned it once and the leak showed up again. Did you smell the fluid that leaked out? Did it smell like conventional gear oil (don't know what's in your rear drive, syn or conv)?
I would check the level of the rear drive oil to start with to make sure your not running low. If your pretty sure that it's the gear oil that's leaking, it' most likely that the large seal has gone bad. Do a search here on how to replace. On my old bikes it's easiest to replace with the read drive off the bike, but it can be done with the drive still installed, but at least the wheel removed.
Once you have access to the seal, it's about a 15 minute job provided that you don't have a conventional gear oil build up where the seal meets the drive gear. Then it could be as simple as a good scrubbing with a rag, or needing a light sanding to clean the drive gear.
I was chasing a rear drive leak on my Eldo and had to completely disassemble the rear drive. Still not sure of what fixed it, the inner seal or a good cleaning/light sanding of the drive gear seal area and a new seal there as well.
Hope this helps a bit!
Tom
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I changed the
transmission gearbox and final drive oils last night, so I have a fresh supply of goop to drip on the rear wheel. I'm using the Redline pink stuff.
I'll need a rear tire in a couple thousand miles, so maybe put the bike in the shop for that and ask them to do the seal while they're at it.
Then comes the decision tree - how deep should I ask them to go ? Do it with it on the bike? If they take it off, how much other maintenance advised I could delegate at that time?
Today's update - it did not leak today.
:bike-037:
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So, since it was due, I changed the oils in the gearbox and the final drive, and I washed the rear wheel and final drive.
And the damn thing is not leaking any more. Does that sound like a complaint ? Because I'm not complaining.
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you did remember to re-fill after the drain right? :police:
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:1: :1: :1: :1: :evil:
Tom
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Have you ridden it since the oil change??? Hopefully it's not leaking.
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Thanks, [rodekyll]. Yes, here at the studios, we eat wild when we can and farm raised when circumstances dictate. And now back to our story...
Yes, gentlemen, I did put oil in it, and I have flogged it on multiple occasions since then. The only difference is I have not worked it light to light around town on a baking hot day, since we haven't had any since and I try not to do that anyway when I can avoid it.
In my memory the leaked fluid looked more like the gearbox oil than the red stuff I run in the final drive - but it seems unlikely that the gearbox goop would make it to the hub and leak out there - doesn't it? Who knows - not me. I never lost control. You're face to face with the man who sold the world... :grin:
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Have you ridden it since the oil change??? Hopefully it's not leaking.
Soooooo, see above. ????
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So now that my leaking final drive has ceased to leak, with only an oil change and a wash, I'm on to other issues.
There's been this annoying buzz coming from somewhere beneath me, usually at a given point in the accell/decel curve. I thought it was an exhaust pipe baffle, but I began looking around and identified possibles like the side covers or the foot brake.
So the next time it happened, I put the side of my boot against the foot brake and it went away. Did this a few times to confirm - Bingo!
So the hardware is locking, probably not much to be done there, but I will see if there's anything to be gained by a slight snugging.
It's sprinkling in San Diego, the roads are for $#!+
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Wear earplugs and it won't bother you. :grin:
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So now that my leaking final drive has ceased to leak, with only an oil change and a wash, I'm on to other issues.
There's been this annoying buzz coming from somewhere beneath me, usually at a given point in the accell/decel curve. I thought it was an exhaust pipe baffle, but I began looking around and identified possibles like the side covers or the foot brake.
So the next time it happened, I put the side of my boot against the foot brake and it went away. Did this a few times to confirm - Bingo!
So the hardware is locking, probably not much to be done there, but I will see if there's anything to be gained by a slight snugging.
It's sprinkling in San Diego, the roads are for $#!+
Hey Norman,
I will bet that the buzz is emanating from either the side stand bumper having gone missing and the square pad is hitting the muffler....or The front engine bolt is slightly loose and a washer is buzzing...
Both are real life Guzzi experiences that have happened to me. The latter nearly gave me a heart attack on the 2000 Bassa thinking that I had a small end bushing sounding off... Imagine my glee to find that loose bolt/nut combination.
Best,
Rob
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:1: on the loose bolt.
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Good morning, and welcome back to Bassa Talk if you're one of our loyal listeners, and you just found us on your internet radio dial, thanks for joining us.
Those of you who live in places that get cold (you know who you are) will have little sympathy for me. And those amongst you who are dawn patrol types, either by nature or need, will scoff at my pain. But we all draw different cards, and we play the hand we're dealt.
I don't do mornings well by nature - my sleep cycle starts late - I'm more of a night owl. But the world asks me to join it in the morning, and I do the best I can. My employer made a documented request regarding this issue, and compliance is required.
It was down in the low fifties this morning when I went to start the bike, and it took several minutes and a couple of dozen attempts. Please put down your coffee and when you're done snorting and chuckling, I'd appreciate your counsel regarding a course of actions.
:bow:
UPDATE: Well, the interweb, which is a series of pipes connected together, suggests that new spark plugs won't hurt but won't really accomplish anything. I'm getting plenty of cranking power from the battery, and plenty of spark.
And a new air filter won't hurt, since the current one has six thousand miles on it, which is when the Guzzi manual recommends a change. I've got spare plugs and filters.
The bike turns over and tries to catch, at which point I get off the starter button so it's not simultaneously partially running AND being starter motor driven. So of course it dies then. The interweb says that the real issue is that fuel does not vaporize as well at lower air temperatures. The interweb also says that fuel injection solves that problem.
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Perhaps there is a lever on your left handlebar most would call a choke but is actually an idle speed raiser. You might want to lube the cable first with something not so sensitive to the 'cold'. :laugh:
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Thank you, [twhitaker]. I've read the discussion threads where that is referred to as a fast idle cable, since it does not actually choke anything like the choke plates on the carbs I grew up with did.
I played with that this morning and the bike ignored my efforts. If it doesn't want to catch and beginning running, then offering it more fuel either by the fast idle cable or the hand throttle does not impress it.
If I'm fated to have to make a score of starting attempts before the cold engine will catch, then that will be my lot. I don't have a method I can keep it warmer (I can hear my eastern brethren not sympathizing much).
I have a neighbor who rides some kind of rice rocket that starts up at 6:50 AM every day, and his catches on the second try. I wonder what he's got going that I don't.
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The choke lever is just a fast idle lever.
With warm weather my Cali starts with a 1-2 second or less crank in the morning. The last few mornings I've had to advance the throttle a little and crank maybe 2-3 seconds or less. Normally starts on the first try. I also wait for the fuel pump to finish it's prime or whatever it does when you turn the key and or flip the kill switch to run. This does seem to help no matter the weather.
I would check your plugs to start with. If you have a new set, put them in a see if it makes a difference. Air filter would be next.
Good luck!
Tom
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Thanks [Tom]. Given that the plugs can be done in seconds, this will yield experimentally valid info. I'll change them tonight and we'll have a data point tomorrow. The air filter will have to wait for the weekend.
Maybe I should invent ... the engine sweater.
Available in turtleneck or button front. Color options are limited, so order yours now.
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For whatever reason, the V11 has a habit of needing a bit of throttle in addition to the fast ide lever set full on, in cooler weather. That be low 70s F. A quick blip of the throttle during the first ignition cough always results in that lumpy grumpy idle we all enjoy. Perhaps the memory of "the last running conditions" is confusing the suck squeeze bang blow life form. As some one else said- "the perversities of air cooled engines" cause strange things. I have some V11 maps if you want to try them.
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How about doing something that doesn't cost anything? <Guzzi content> Pull the relays, and if you don't have any magic DeOxit, wiggle them around when you put them back in. Do the same with the fuses. If you *do* have some magic DeOxit, spray that in the relay and fuse bases before reinserting. Report back.
If that doesn't do it, do the same thing with anything electrical you can find. :evil: :smiley:
You *are* waiting for the fuel pump to prime before punching the button.. right?
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No idea if there is any validity to this , but a forum member with a much better understanding of how this generation of bikes work advises to turn the key on and let the ECU "think" for a few seconds before hitting the start button . Might be Voodoo , but it doesn't cost anything .
Dunno what is wrong with your MC Norm , tight valve(s) TPS out of spec , injector problems , it simply doesn't like you and wants a new home , or something else . However , there is something amiss and it might be time to let a pro take a look .
Dusty
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Fuel injected anything. Turn the ignition on. Wait a couple of seconds then engage the starter circuit. Everything needs to be engaged before starting. (technical term) :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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I believe the ECU adjusts the amount of fuel it adds based on temperature.
Is it possible you are taking it out from the nice warm garage and it's sucking in cold air?
GuzziDiag might let you make the mixture a bit richer for a few seconds like the MyECUs do
otherwise you could fool it into thinking it's colder than it really is by adding some resistance in series with the air temperature sensor.
If it's a P8 ECU you could mess with the brass screw.
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do you cycle the kill switch between start attempts ? just turn off then on between failed start attempts . works for me
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:1: Forgot about that. Good reminder.
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Thanks all so much. Emotional purple prose deleted in this space. I'm having a rough week.
" a bit of throttle in addition to the fast idle lever set full on, in cooler weather. That be low 70s F "
I don't use the lever, just give it manual throttle as seems appropriate. If I recall my experiments with the lever yielded no variation. I will try again and report.
What is the best method to exchange map data?
I will acquire some magic DeOxit and use it on all vaguely appropriate surfaces - is it labeled differently from the non-magic stuff?
I always turn the key, listen for the fuel pump's sigh of relief, and give the ECU a while to consider the error of it's ways.
It's been a few miles since I did the valves, I'll schedule that. But they have not been that far out when I do visit them - a thou or two loose, if memory serves me well.
Been trying to budget for a pro tuner, but life has other ideas.
The bike sleeps outside under a roof, no cover. I used to watch my horses grow winter coats, but so far no sign of that on the Bassa.
I'm pretty sure I have the 15 ECU.
Never heard of cycling the kill switch between start attempts, but it wouldn’t cost anything (guzzi content ;-)
:huh:
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15X ECU? CO trim is your friend. Alternatively, I am happy to tweak a Bassa map for you.
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15X ECU? CO trim is your friend. Alternatively, I am happy to tweak a Bassa map for you.
Oo Oo Oo ,
Beetle's Happy Maps :laugh:
Dusty
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To use GuzziDiag the only cost is the cables to hook a laptop, tablet, desk top PC that runs windows (seems easiest to get set up right). I use a cheap tablet that only has a micro usb, but I have an adapter for the cable.
If your serious about getting GD working, read/skim though the tutorial and it has links for the cables from Lonelec (SP) or look for one of my posts for them on Amazon.
You might even have someone in your are that can stop by with GD and see how the bikes doing.
My bikes are outside as well, do yourself and the bike a favor, get a cover. The ones I use are about $90 and are worth the money. They last about 5 years or so.
Good luck,
Tom
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I used CO trim to cover up that stutter stumble around 3200 rpm. Does Beetle have something better for the V11? I use the 02 LeMans map now.
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If someone wants to lend me their V11, I'll go to town on the map. Not much work done by me on non-CARC big blocks. I've fiddled with some CalVin maps however.
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When I bought my 2001 EV a few months ago it didn't like to start and idle without holding the fast idle lever on or holding the throttle open a little. I set the tps, balanced the throttle bodies and set the idle (by ear) and now it starts great. We are unseasonably warm here, so I don't know about cold start yet. I didn't see if you said you ever had an issue with starting or idling this past summer. Maybe getting the three things I did will help (or at least you'll know it's right and can start looking elsewhere afterwards).
Brent
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Hello, and welcome again to another edition of Bassa Talk.
Today we're happy to announce that there's nothing significant or new that's amiss with the bike, we're just dropping in to remind you that your Bassa dollars go to support a good cause, and one hundred percent of my losses are donated to the normzone foundation for wayward riders.
I've been reluctant to return here, because after my whining about cold start challenges and all of your detailed advice, the first and simplest thing I tried resolved the majority of the issue: spark plugs.
So we'll gloss over that embarrassment quickly and move on to my next question - how long should a u-joint last? The secondary question is why is there not a hole in the housing you could access some zirc fittings through and keep the damn thing lubed ?
I don't know that I need one yet, but I can tell some slop in it, and someday it will make it's desires known. According to the service records I got with the bike, the second owner changed the u-joint at 14,000 miles. That makes little sense to me. Oh, and transcribed service history copy/paste below for the record ...
I pulled out the history file the P.O. gave me and summed it up in a spreadsheet, sorted it by date ... I did not list tires or oil changes.
Component mileage(sometimes) date owner
bend shifter and replace bolts for front subframe 20020216 Phillip
crossover exhaust, Lafranconi, head pipe site with crossover & head clamps 20021121 Phillip
Map install 20021122 Phillip
Power commander, driving lamps, install exhaust and air box eliminator 20030130 Phillip
throttle sync, oil sender, 15400 20030704 Martin
Rear brake pads 20050310 Martin
Carrier bearing (u-joint) and rear pads 14025 20050331 Martin
Oil switch 21385 20060128 Martin
fuel pump 27537 20070913 Martin
Exhaust clamp 33134 20080718 Martin
Battery 33134 20080725 Martin
air filter 33136 20080728 Martin
Speedometer 36700 20081014 Martin
rear pads 38500 20100428 Martin
battery 20140213 Norman
rear shocks 20140327 Norman
front pads 20140415 Norman
air filter, speedometer cable 52000 20150824 Norman
battery 201141005 Norman
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Seems a properly greased U joint that is running nice and straight should last a long time . No idea how many miles mine has on it , at least 40K , I don't even think about it .
Dusty
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you worry too much Norm..
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mj2o7cm4w9w/Vyt2RbM5BDI/AAAAAAAABA8/rGmeF4DQ75QMobfXIbHkTqY0g6NwFH-fQCLcB/s1600/blog--worried.jpg)
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Well, you wouldn't be the first to tell me that.
And just as I quit worrying about my engine top end noises after I took you fellows advice and began wearing earplugs, since apparently it's a long term component I'm going to cease worrying about my u-joint until it gets as interesting to listen to as some of the tales I've read here - I believe it was [rodekyll] who rode his to a grinding, flaming halt somewhere in the wilds of Canada.
My Guzzi-versary is fast approaching - January 13th it will be three years since you fellows steered me to this excellent machine, for which I will always be indebted to the lot of you.
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My Cali has 145k miles on the original u-joint. like foto says, thou doest worry too much.
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If I read it right, it looked like just the carrier bearing, not the U-joint.
U-joint, anywhere from 1mi to 50,000mi or more.
My Eldo in 35 years has had 2 replacements, the first one was a good used and the second was factory new.
Tom
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They last longer on the later bikes, probably due to the longer swingarm.
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Okay, now I'm confused. Nothing new there, but ...
I thought carrier bearing was just another term for universal joint. Upon further reflection, is the carrier bearing a housing for the u-joint to dance in ?
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Go to Harpers and look up your bike and then look for the swingarm exploded view.
The bearing is in the large end of the swingarm right about where it necks down. The U-joint is in the large end. The carrier bearing supports the end of the u-joint or u-joint/driveshaft combo as found on my '04 and I'm sure yours as well.
Tom
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'Roll....another one...just liiiiiiike....the other one...'
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As dusty said (before that girly oo oo oo), the ecu needs some time to forget yesterday and orient itself to current conditions. Some call it the 15-second rule. I know I do.
Also, someone mentioned toggling the kill switch a few times. This adds fuel to the intake per number of toggles. Sort of a fake enrichment cycle.
And no, I have no sympathy for low 50s riding. I worry about you for when it gets cool out -- which happens somewhere waaay below 52. :weiner:
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YGBSM ...
That's what the patch on the electronic warfare guys is reputed to say, based on the response of the first guy informed that he was going to ride back seat to a fighter pilot while they attempted to flush out missile launching sites with themselves as live bait.
Okay, I can believe the toggling the kill switch would make the computer think "Hey, I just woke up, I'll throw a little fuel in the pipe, since we're probably going someplace".
This is So Cal ... water freezes somewhere in the low forties. Girls still wear bikinis though, down into the low sixties. I start wearing long underwear as soon as it hits the fifties. Reminds me, time for another order to LL Bean. And my Motoport pants are supposed to be ready in a week or two.
" You been hanging onto it ... "
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It's the 15sec that makes it re-read its sensors. The toggle just squirts gas.
It never broke 40 here in E TX today, with the low headed to the 20s tonight. folks here say it's cold. You guys. :laugh: :boozing:
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My friend in Virginia told e he wore heated ear when riding in temps in the 50s.
I pointed out our thermostat in the house is set at 52.
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You've been holdin on to it..
Norm.. don't worry, be happy. :smiley: I'll be out in SoCal checking out the beach bunnies in their parkas shortly. Kinda funny, actually.
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Yeah, I like the December look - Ugg boots, short shorts and mittens.
But on to Guzzi-related content ... from this thread http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=23622.0 I got some counsel regarding upgrading bulbs. So I thought I'd double check what was already in the turn signals and ... I can't get in to them. WTF? ( Why That Format ? )
Obviously things have changed since I owned an Eldo ...
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Just a little. :grin: :grin:
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Okay, so there really IS a standard head screw down at the end of that dusty tube in the turn signal housing.
Now I can see why there's so little talk on the forum about just putting a modern LED bulb in the stock EV turn housing - I don't believe there's enough room. Too bad ...
The bulb itself is identified in the following manner:
R10W12814PHILLIPS12 V10WE12BFFRANCE8F1
Whereas the brake light is a mere
JP72057
So I guess I'll hunt for a brake light upgrade kit ... or make something artistic :evil:
I'm going to interpret the turn signal code as the following:
R 10W (this is a 10 watt bulb?) 12814 PHILLIPS (guess who made this bulb) 12V (your bike has a 12 volt system) 10W ( 10 watts? Really ? ) E12 BFF ( you and this bulb are Best Friends Forever ) RANCE ( if you and this bulb break up you'll have to move to France ) 8F1
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if you go up on wattage on the tail/brake bulb you will need to modify the socket to a metal socket by removing the contacts and using a appropriately sized round thing, I use a Snap-on 1/4" drive deep socket heated enough to melt the plastic to size the hole. I like to retain the ground, then epoxy the new metal socket in place. pay attention to the depth setting. or if you prefer use a LED bulb if the original socket is still viable.
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Okay......I'm the type that will ask for clarification when confused. LED's for the brake/running light combo or turn signals??? :tongue: If brake/running light combo, I have LED bulbs that were bought at O'Reilly's on my Strada. (I didn't buy them.) :grin:
1157 brake light http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/SYL9/2357RSLBP2/01591.oap?year=2004&make=Hyundai&model=Accent&vi=1425596&ck=Search_01591_1425596_4602&pt=01591&ppt=C0010
1156 turn signal http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/SYL9/7506SLBP2/01593.oap?year=2004&make=Hyundai&model=Accent&vi=1425596&ck=Search_01593_1425596_4602&pt=01593&ppt=C0010
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We've been through this before, and I cannot wrap my head around this.
The front end always pulse dived when I used the foot brake.
I chalked it up to a warped disc, only to be directed to the threads stating " It's not a warped disc, it's a spot on the disc with brake pad material loaded into it "
I put on a used front left disc and the problem went away (mostly) - there was still just a trace of it.
Now it does it again.
If the disc is loading, why doesn't the front right disc do it first, since it is the one that really sees the conditions purported to load the disc up, and the left front disc sees less use?
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Norm , it has to do with the direction Earth orbits the Sun , well , that and the fact that you live on the West Coast . Folks on the East Coast report just the opposite .
Or... maybe you need to start using the front brake more , or less . Could be you are applying more pressure thru the front lever than thru the foot pedal .
OK , so you don't buy those explanations , any possibility you are riding around in circles ? :grin:
Dusty
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Let's assume that my commute loop could be viewed as a circle for mathematical purposes.
Am I the only Guzzista that has this issue? That would lead me to believe it's a (hard configuration) problem, not a material buildup issue.
Do many of you periodically dress your discs in some manner to remove buildup? I didn't think so.
:sad:
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Let's assume that my commute loop could be viewed as a circle for mathematical purposes.
Am I the only Guzzista that has this issue? That would lead me to believe it's a (hard configuration) problem, not a material buildup issue.
Do many of you periodically dress your discs in some manner to remove buildup? I didn't think so.
:sad:
Norm , you need to read more on WG , many discussions about using a Scotch Brite pad to clean brake rotors .
Dusty