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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: xackley on August 02, 2016, 09:19:39 PM
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In Hammondsport NY.
There are a lot of classics in the parking lot and displays in the museum.
http://www.glennhcurtissmuseum.org/events.php
If you don't know who Curtiss was, just type Curtiss in google and hit Enter.
Beautiful riding, just head up over any hill or cruise 54a on the west side of the lake.
I don't remember ever seeing a single Guzzi in the parking lot, but I know they must be out there somewhere.
Don
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MY FAVORITE MUSEUM!!!
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Curtiss was a giant .
Dusty
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Stumbled into the Curtiss Museum by accident while on a joyride to Ohio.
Put the whole trip one day behind.
What an absolutely wonderful place.
If you have a free day and like aircraft and good stores this is a place not to be missed.
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Agreed 100%. A wonderful place, indeed.
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Agreed, the Curtis Museum is a fantastic place to visit. He was into much more than aviation. Lots of cool things to see there.
If you have never been there, it is worth going. I have visited several times.
John Henry
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And don't forget to take in the Pierce Arrow Museum in Buffalo a little over 2hours west... :bike-037:
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(http://aviation-history.com/early/curtiss-3.jpg)
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This was at Oshkosh this year.. and *Original* 08 pusher. It had been ordered by a company in Mass and never assembled. :shocked: :smiley: Found in crates.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7749/28541019472_d00c275557_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ku5bJC)2016-07-30_06-35-14 (https://flic.kr/p/Ku5bJC) by Charles Stottlemyer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/107188298@N06/), on Flickr
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I tried to pass off as a relative but the girls wouldn't believe me...(same last name) It is a great place to learn a bit of history..so many ideas from Uncle Glenn!
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Visited there on a ride to Rochester several years, well worth a visit.
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I was just there last Saturday. One can only wonder if Glenn had lived longer what else he could have accomplished.
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He was a great one with machinery of all types. Father of the current 5th wheel RV too.
Love his airplanes.
Too bad he and the Wright Bros could not get along. Had to be a forced marriage by the govt, with the resulting company doing a lot of good things too.
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Where did you see a forced marriage between Curtiss and Wright. If I remember correctly Ford financed Curtiss's legal battle against the Wright Brothers to tie the Wrights' hands in court until the Wrights collapsed. One of them died and the remaining Wright blamed the stress of the Curtiss legal battle was what killed his brother. Wright never forgave Curtiss.
Then a botched apendectomy brought an untimely end to Curtiss.
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Wow, huge showing for moto guzzi today.
Many V7, couple of Eldorados, 1 V11. From the count, it would appear that guzzi sells a lot more street bikes than tourers.
If you took some pictures, post some.
I was riding my 1958 R69 bmw with the wixom ranger fairing. I am still making up my mind on which guzzi would suit me best, so I didn't have one to ride, but I will by next year.
Don
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Where did you see a forced marriage between Curtiss and Wright. If I remember correctly Ford financed Curtiss's legal battle against the Wright Brothers to tie the Wrights' hands in court until the Wrights collapsed. One of them died and the remaining Wright blamed the stress of the Curtiss legal battle was what killed his brother. Wright never forgave Curtiss.
Then a botched apendectomy brought an untimely end to Curtiss.
'In 1917, the two major aircraft patent holders, the Wright Company and the Curtiss Company, had effectively blocked the building of new airplanes, which were desperately needed as the United States was entering World War I. The U.S. government, as a result of a recommendation of a committee formed by Franklin D. Roosevelt, then Assistant Secretary of the Navy, pressured the industry to form a cross-licensing organization (in other terms a Patent pool), the Manufacturer's Aircraft Association'
ie, a forced marriage.
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Rode my LeMans down today. First ride in 4 years. I think my back is healed up.
Saw a pristine V7 Sport , Convert, and LMIV in addition to ones mentioned. Saw a lot of old friends today. Perfect day for a ride!!!.
Pete
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yep, I checked out the le mans, I think that was the 1000 cc near the corner.
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I counted 9 Guzzis:
3 V7s (Stone and two Specials)
1 PRISTINE V7 Sport
1 Gorgeous Eldo
1 nice Convert
1 beautiful LeMans
1 great Breva 1200 Sport
1 awesome Franken Guzzi with a hand hammered/welded metal fairing that looked something like a shield or an eye (extremely well done).
Did I miss any?
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I counted 9 Guzzis:
3 V7s (Stone and two Specials)
1 PRISTINE V7 Sport
1 Gorgeous Eldo
1 nice Convert
1 beautiful LeMans
1 great Breva 1200 Sport
1 awesome Franken Guzzi with a hand hammered/welded metal fairing that looked something like a shield or an eye (extremely well done).
Did I miss any?
PeteS mentioned that he rode his Le Mans, and then mentioned a LMIV (I'm assuming the white one that was parked near the Convert) as being one that he saw, so, that's two Le Mans. So, that makes 10.
I'll post pictures later when I get a chance to upload them.
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Was there a "Guzzi Day" there, or just coincidence?
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Was there a "Guzzi Day" there, or just coincidence?
Coincidence, maybe fueled by this thread.
I think Jay had already wanted to head that way this weekend.
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Was there a "Guzzi Day" there, or just coincidence?
I think it was more coincidence. There were a lot more Guzzi riders that Guzzis there. Some had ridden other bikes. The weather had a lot to do with it I think. High 70s, low humidity, blue skies. After a week of humid 90s it was nice to just get out for a ride in one of the best riding areas of the state.
Pete
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I counted 9 Guzzis:
1 awesome Franken Guzzi with a hand hammered/welded metal fairing that looked something like a shield or an eye (extremely well done).
Did I miss any?
That was my Guzzi, sold to my friend Pete who did the hammered alloy (Pretus Rocks on this site) . I met Kev, Jas and again Pete S and some Brit bike guys... Kev is more impressive looking in person that his avatar photo :laugh:
The 75 mile ride to the museum from the Rochester area was one of those rare days of perfect weather , traffic free two lane roads and no police in sight...
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Mine is the FrankenGuzzi :thumb: I like to beat on aluminum.
I enjoyed meeting ya Kevin. Nice you came all the way from NJ
Lost my license plate on the way home. Rough Edge saw it go but we couldn't find it.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/fKawFa/Triton_a.jpg) (http://ibb.co/fKawFa)
(http://thumb.ibb.co/iXFJTv/V7_a.jpg) (http://ibb.co/iXFJTv)
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It was great meeting everyone... just a short 400 mile or so trip from NJ, well, if you take a relatively straight line, which I didn't, I mean I REALLY didn't since I started out by going South and then WEST to get from south Jersey to upstate NY in the Finger Lakes :laugh:.
Pete, I can't say enough about that aluminum fairing, nice piece of work.
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Coincidence, maybe fueled by this thread.
I think Jay had already wanted to head that way this weekend.
Yes, already wanted to go after seeing pics a friend took when he stopped by on the way home from the BMW-MOA Rally. The fact that the vintage bike show was there made it even better.
I want to get back to up that region of NY and explore more of the roads. I definitely liked what I saw, and enjoyed riding in Northern PA as well.
The PA Grand Canyon area is beautiful, as is US-6 across the top of the state. It was a picture perfect day, if not a little on the hot side for the ride back across the top of PA, blue skies, and white puffy clouds.
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It was great meeting everyone... just a short 400 mile or so trip from NJ, well, if you take a relatively straight line, which I didn't, I mean I REALLY didn't since I started out by going South and then WEST to get from south Jersey to upstate NY in the Finger Lakes :laugh:.
And I REALLY didn't take a straight line home.
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We rode down from Rochester; it was a gorgeous day, and the Finger Lakes have some great riding. Sorry this took a while; it's been some time since I've posted pics.
We were very surprised at the Guzzi turnout; a lot there.
I'm not sure...an Eldo?:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss6_zps2tosoclg.jpeg)
An older 850T (you might see I'm not all that up on some of the older stuff)?:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss3_zpse3nkx07k.jpeg)
A very pretty NorVin, with neat little fiddly details:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss8_zpsg3sxixnz.jpeg)
Not everyone's cup of tea, but I admire the spirit in this Gold Wing:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss5_zpsnvhxujk5.jpeg)
Splinters in the worst possible places:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss7_zpsr5mjdosh.jpeg)
Gratuitous pic of the Jackal next to a very pretty Eldo:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss2_zpsu7lldde2.jpeg)
A Cushman scooter with a gen-u-ine Radio Flyer sidecar:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss1_zpsbwl7e7er.jpg)
paul
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Gratuitous pic of the Jackal next to a very pretty Eldo:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss2_zpsu7lldde2.jpeg)
paul
Well there's 2 that we missed in the parking lot. That brings the count to what 11 Guzzis.... that's at least equal to a state rally :boozing:
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We rode down from Rochester; it was a gorgeous day, and the Finger Lakes have some great riding. Sorry this took a while; it's been some time since I've posted pics.
We were very surprised at the Guzzi turnout; a lot there.
I'm not sure...an Eldo?:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss6_zps2tosoclg.jpeg)
Yes, and Eldo, with 1000cc jugs.
An older 850T (you might see I'm not all that up on some of the older stuff)?:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss3_zpse3nkx07k.jpeg)
Convert.
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Actually that special isn't a Norvin , rather a Norumph , or more commonly called a Triton :laugh:
What do you call a Norton featherbed special powered by a Sportster motor ??
Dusty
Nortster
Narly
Narly-Davidson
Norton-Davidson
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A very pretty NorVin, with neat little fiddly details:
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/paulinrochester/curtis%20museum%20bikes%202016/curtiss8_zpsg3sxixnz.jpeg)
NorVin?
Looks like maybe a pre-unit Triumph in a Ducati frame? Or wideline Featherbed.
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See? This is why I try not to ID older stuff. :laugh:
That old Brit was real neat, though; someone really sweat the details.
There was also an old rat cafe CB200T, too.
paul
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It is a Featherbed , W/0 measuring can't tell if it is a slimline or wideline , only difference is hidden .
Dusty
Rear triangle going up to the upper shock mount is different. Wideline is straight up like this bike and Slimline has a curve.
Let me know if I need to post pics.
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No need , I should have gone back and looked at the side shot . The engine appears to have the aluminum cylinders and most of the factory race kit installed . Pretty exotic .
Dusty
I missed the side shot too. Distracted by the V7 Sport below it. :boozing:
What's the front brake? It looks similar but not the same as the V7 one.
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That brake is a puzzle , maybe a one off custom backing plate . Anyone know ?
Dusty
I want to say Laverda but I'm just guessing.
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I want to say Laverda but I'm just guessing.
Hmm , yes , now I have to go look .
Dusty