Wildguzzi.com
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Cam3512 on August 05, 2016, 07:16:12 PM
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http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=172281214628&globalID=EBAY-US
Wish I had some spare change...
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spare change indeed...... :grin:
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I think that is the same one that's been making the classified rounds for quite a while now.
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Big surprise.
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Isn't that an MV Augusta 750s, circa 1971, in the background of the fourth picture? (Bubble-wrapped, no less.)
Which one would you prefer? I think I might take the MV.
Moto
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Isn't that an MV Augusta 750s, circa 1971, in the background of the fourth picture? (Bubble-wrapped, no less.)
Which one would you prefer? I think I might take the MV.
Moto
Yes, I noticed the bubble-wrapped MV too. There's another bike and a few cars back there too. And most of all, how about the girl sitting on the toilet behind the opened door!
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And most of all, how about the girl sitting on the toilet behind the opened door!
Made me look! :tongue:
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Check out his other sales, makes the MGS/01 his cheap sale.
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He has a number of very low mileage exotic and race bikes. I spoke with him this evening. I'm going to look at the guzzi tomorrow. Asking price is way too much. And it's WAY out of my league but I can't pass up the opportunity to look at it.
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Wow, I think I need a cold shower. I just asked wife which child she would like to sell :grin:
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It's a beautiful thing. I just don't understand how you could own such a thing and not ride it.
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It's a beautiful thing. I just don't understand how you could own such a thing and not ride it.
Go you halves ? I promise to only use the top half of the tacho :)
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Ha! I just suggested to The Minister for War & Finance that I'm considering some Oz wheels for the a Griso. The frenzy of nails, spittle and four-letter words that resulted would escalate to grievous bodily harm if I even whispered 'MGS01'....
:thewife:
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I saw the bike today, it's GREAT. No way the bike is anything but new!!! I saw several of his other bikes also, used bikes (many race bikes) they all look phenomenal! !!
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Collection. NO, riders.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's sure hard for me to see $60k for a bike like this. It's not licensable, so it can't be legally ridden on the street, and not competitive in any race series I'm aware of. At a track day, you'd get blown away by guys on $3k Japanese beaters. Conspicuous consumption, I guess.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's sure hard for me to see $60k for a bike like this. It's not licensable, so it can't be legally ridden on the street, and not competitive in any race series I'm aware of. At a track day, you'd get blown away by guys on $3k Japanese beaters. Conspicuous consumption, I guess.
Did well in Italian twins racing in its day 131 total production across five years, stunning build quality, it is the fastest thing to ever roll out of Guzzi's doors including things like the 500 V8 and since when were bikes supposed to be a rational purchase anyway? Guzzi would of died long ago if that were the case.
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And there are a few being ridden on the street so there is hope.
My wife looked over my shoulder at the eBay ad and said wow! I told her that I had tried to buy it one back in the day when it was less than half that price and she said, "dummy, you should have bought one."
I may buy a few lottery tickets this week.
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I lost interest when I found out that it couldn't be licensed for the street and I was seriously looking. :embarrassed:
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I lost interest when I found out that it couldn't be licensed for the street and I was seriously looking. :embarrassed:
Add lights and register it. No?
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At the time, I was talking to the dealer in Connecticut who is no longer in business when I should have been talking to Moto International. The Connecticut dealer wasn't making any headway, so I gave up.
I just guessed that I'd figure out someway to get it registered somewhere.
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Add lights and register it. No?
That doesn't fly. If it doesn't meet FED DOT importation requirements for street bikes. It can't be licensed or registered for the street.
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I assume there's a title. Where there's a will there's a way.
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Some people manged to get a road license for it in the usa. Some 15 I suppose in europe with road license.
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I've registered mc b4 that could not be registered in my home state. I currently ride 2 registered out of state. Some states require only a bill of sale. IOW: No title if the bike is 15, 20 or 25 years old, depending on the state.
If I could afford conspicuous consumption and be young enough to manage that beast I'd jump at the chance.
Adding the necessary lights and switch gear is hardly a problem. It's an icon. A stunning mc. A MG.
They built how many? Right. R3~
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Would it be possible to move it into a licensable frame?
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Would it be possible to move it into a licensable frame?
The frame s fairly unique ie not common with V11's 1100 sports daytona's etc you could move the motor but you wouldn't get the handling or the gearbox unless you went the V11 frame route but again you wouldn't get the handling. You are also getting into the issue of "ghosting" which depending on your jurisdictions definition can get messy.
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That doesn't fly. If it doesn't meet FED DOT importation requirements for street bikes. It can't be licensed or registered for the street.
Tom,
There are several MGS-01s registered and tagged in the USA.
Just takes a little effort.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but it's sure hard for me to see $60k for a bike like this. It's not licensable, so it can't be legally ridden on the street, and not competitive in any race series I'm aware of. At a track day, you'd get blown away by guys on $3k Japanese beaters. Conspicuous consumption, I guess.
I don't get beater Japanese sportsbikes, or Priuses, either.
I do get Italian exotica.
Different strokes for different folks.
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I don't get beater Japanese sportsbikes, or Priuses, either.
I do get Italian exotica.
Different strokes for different folks.
This. :1:
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What about those of us who prefer beat up Italian not-so-exotica :huh: :grin:
Dusty
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What about those of us who prefer beat up Italian not-so-exotica :huh: :grin:
Dusty
Every Guzzi is Italian Exotica... Even rat-rod customs, like yours!
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Every Guzzi is Italian Exotica... Even rat-rod customs, like yours!
Funny , one of the sport bikers I rode with yesterday seemed pretty impressed with my "rat rod" , at our second stop he was wide eyed and said "how are you keeping up?"
Dusty
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Something to do with international agreements: The US and Canada licencing systems will check the manufacturer VIN number that is stamped on the product built at the factory with the correct certified DOT components ....
Many foreign VIN sequences are not allowed to enter in either country, or if smuggled in, are not allowed to be registered for use on public roads.
Exemptions are temporary and are limited to trade show events or research and such.
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I assume there's a title. Where there's a will there's a way.
Ad says a Manufacturers Statement of Origin (MSO) is included. It would have to be turned into a state for a title and registration. The bike would lose value once it's titled. It automatically becomes used without having any mileage put on it.
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Tom,
There are several MGS-01s registered and tagged in the USA.
Just takes a little effort.
They have dealer plates? Having a title and registration in one state doesn't automatically make it legal in another state. Use to inspect and submit title applications for vehicles that came into the U.S. through the gray market. Canada etc. We inspected like California for entry into the U.S., parts per year of manufacture, compliance to U.S. FED DOT and EPA regs. The owners would have to comply and/or not be able to register for street use.
If this bike would to be registered and titled in the U.S.. It would lose value.
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They have dealer plates? Having a title and registration in one state doesn't automatically make it legal in another state. Use to inspect and submit title applications for vehicles that came into the U.S. through the gray market. Canada etc. We inspected like California for entry into the U.S., parts per year of manufacture, compliance to U.S. FED DOT and EPA regs. The owners would have to comply and/or not be able to register for street use.
If this bike would to be registered and titled in the U.S.. It would lose value.
Yeah. Can't be done. Especially in California. And absolutely not in the Bay Area.
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Of course that doesn't mean that someone could put a Spot's plate or Daytona plate on a MGS01.
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I lost interest when I found out that it couldn't be licensed for the street and I was seriously looking. :embarrassed:
I'm sure it varies by state but someone here in CA has one that he registered and said it was a piece of cake. he mounted some lights behind the mesh grills in the fairing and put some microscopic turn signals on it. Took it to the DMV to get it checked out and that was all it took.
From more than a few feet away, the changes weren't noticeable.
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Of course that doesn't mean that someone could put a Spot's plate or Daytona plate on a MGS01.
:Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu
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Tom,
You're quite the "by the book" guy. Never really knew that. :undecided:
What you have posted doesn't really matter, because there are several MGS-01s in the wild, terrorizing the streets of Our Country... Legally...
As was said earlier, "where there's a will, there's a way"...
:boozing:
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Hey...if they were able to register at the time and put it on the street then some regs. were bypassed. As for the by the book thinking, that was the job at the time. One reason for not registering and titling is the tax man. They want their money.
MSO for this bike means that if now if someone is able to title and register in CA, AZ and others full MSRP is used to calculate the license fees. Wanna bet it'll be more than a car? Some states base it on sale price. Wonder what it would be in some states that base their reg. fees on sales price and proof of it?
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I was interested in that bike too but the narrow market it was made for didn't seem to make widely available for the general consumption.
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Hey...if they were able to register at the time and put it on the street then some regs. were bypassed. As for the by the book thinking, that was the job at the time. One reason for not registering and titling is the tax man. They want their money.
MSO for this bike means that if now if someone is able to title and register in CA, AZ and others full MSRP is used to calculate the license fees. Wanna bet it'll be more than a car? Some states base it on sale price. Wonder what it would be in some states that base their reg. fees on sales price and proof of it?
I don't think it would matter to someone who could afford to buy it. However in my state 6% sales tax on the purchase price of the vehicle then $9.90 per year to keep a motorcycle tagged. That's it
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Okay did some checking. MO. registration is based on 4.225% sales tax plus $11 reg. fee. So that makes it about $2500 for your plates and title. HI would charge about $100 and the sales tax if not paid in another state. So about $2600. AZ and CA you'd have to pay about 60% of MSRP which lowers every year thereafter at about 16%. At least it's not 60% of $59000.00 then 16.25% of that. :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: and yes if one has the money to burn.
Would I put my Daytona/RS/1100 Sport plate on a MGS01. Since I don't work for Motor Vehicle anymore......well I'm not admitting to anything.
CORRECTION. For AZ and CA then the 60% is reduced to 16.25% per year. So that makes it about $2800 for your plate.
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I don't think it would matter to someone who could afford to buy it. However in my state 6% sales tax on the purchase price of the vehicle then $9.90 per year to keep a motorcycle tagged. That's it
$3500 for one year.
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Marty's Street legal MGS-01. Taken at the Alameda All Italian Day show, 2008.
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$3500 for one year.
You're not following me. Sales tax on the purchase price is a one-time deal here.
There is a nominal personal property tax on cars, motorcycles, and trailers, but it's nominal.
It costs $9.90 per year to keep any motorcycle tagged in Arkansas, and there are no annual inspections.
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Sorry, should have put $3500 first year for sales tax then whatever per your state reg. fees.
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I lost interest when I found out that it couldn't be licensed for the street and I was seriously looking. :embarrassed:
Lost interest? As if it was street legal you'd plunk down the cash? Anyone that can afford to buy the bike won't sweat any additional fees.
I call BS.
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Had the credit and cash available at the time. Because it was not legal, I lost interest. I had to look at the dates. Might be possible now to do a grey market transfer. You can call it BS but I know what was possible at the time.
I bought a LM V11 Sport Negro Corsa, SP1000NT, 1000S green, 1000 Le Mans V, 1100Sporti, Daytona RS and a Buell ST3 Thunderbolt. Would I buy one bike maybe but I opted for the other bikes to round out the collection. Still have all of them too. If you're interested, I bought a number from Curtis & Mike Harper. 2 bikes from Ed Milich before he broke up with Alice. Zoom Zoom can can confirm the SP1000NT.
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Did well in Italian twins racing in its day 131 total production across five years, stunning build quality, it is the fastest thing to ever roll out of Guzzi's doors including things like the 500 V8 and since when were bikes supposed to be a rational purchase anyway? Guzzi would of died long ago if that were the case.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bOSr_xmJ7jM
He won BOTT two years in a row at Daytona.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bOSr_xmJ7jM
He won BOTT two years in a row at Daytona.
When your day job is test riding for a Mr C. Stoner you're probably pretty handy although the second win was with an after market BB1 motor.
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He's had this bike for 12 years and is trying to triple what he paid for it. There is 1 street legal on the streets of the SF Bay area. Used to come to our monthly Winters breakfasts some times. :thumb: Some times that owner responds on here. Apparently that is Marty. Met him twice but never remembered his name or maybe he didn't want it known. If you knew some people @ X DMV office like he did you can get this done, technically legal or not. Just like some street legal 2 stroke 500cc Yamahas, Suzukis multi cylinders in Calif. which were never supposed to be.
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I'd rather say that it should/can't be licensed and title for the street then say there is one licensed for the street and you can get this one licensed too. If Marty had connections and "gamed" the system to get his title and licensed then good for him but you know what happens when someone else expects the same. A closer look at procedures and maybe a "favor" was in play.
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I'd rather say that it should/can't be licensed and title for the street then say there is one licensed for the street and you can get this one licensed too. If Marty had connections and "gamed" the system to get his title and licensed then good for him but you know what happens when someone else expects the same. A closer look at procedures and maybe a "favor" was in play.
Norge Pilot, that you?
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Ouch . LOL .
Dusty
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:Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu One thing I do know with state/county governments. The higher ups don't like when the squeaky wheel gets louder. They look to silence it by closer scrutiny in procedures and retroactive corrective measures. May not have been the recipient of the "misdeed" but personnel involved. Hopefully, they retire before a closer look so no punitive measures are taken.
They busted a bunch of Driver License Examiners in Honolulu for bribe taking. :thumb:
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Norge Pilot, that you?
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Actually the Babe ...
Oh never mind , the myth is more interesting than the truth .
Dusty
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Career Statistics
Batting average: .342
Home runs: 714
Hits: 2,873
RBI: 2,213
Pitching W/L record: 94-46
ERA: 2.28
Top Ten in MLB history in the following categories:
3rd on home run list – 714
10th in batting average – .342
2nd on RBI list – 2,213
1st on all-time slugging % – .690
2nd on all-time on-base % – .474
1st on all-time OPS – 1.164
4th on all-time runs list – 2,174
6th on all-time total bases list – 5,793
3rd on all-time walks list – 2,062
Hitting Statistics
Year Team LG 2B 3B H HR G R RBI AB BB SB SO AVG
1914 BOS AL 1 0 2 0 5 1 2 10 0 0 4 0.200
1915 BOS AL 10 1 29 4 42 16 21 92 9 0 23 0.315
1916 BOS AL 5 3 37 3 67 18 15 136 10 0 23 0.272
1917 BOS AL 6 3 40 2 52 14 12 123 12 0 18 0.325
1918 BOS AL 26 11 95 11 95 50 66 317 58 6 58 0.300
1919 BOS AL 34 12 139 29 130 103 114 432 101 7 58 0.322
1920 NY AL 36 9 172 54 142 158 137 458 150 14 80 0.376
1921 NY AL 44 16 204 59 152 177 171 540 145 17 81 0.378
1922 NY AL 24 8 128 35 110 94 99 406 84 2 80 0.315
1923 NY AL 45 13 205 41 152 151 131 522 170 17 93 0.393
1924 NY AL 39 7 200 46 153 143 121 529 142 9 81 0.378
1925 NY AL 12 2 104 25 98 61 66 359 59 2 68 0.290
1926 NY AL 30 5 184 47 152 139 146 495 144 11 76 0.372
1927 NY AL 29 8 192 60 151 158 164 540 137 7 89 0.356
1928 NY AL 29 8 173 54 154 163 142 536 137 4 87 0.323
1929 NY AL 26 6 172 46 135 121 154 499 72 5 60 0.345
1930 NY AL 28 9 186 49 145 150 153 518 136 10 61 0.359
1931 NY AL 31 3 199 46 145 149 163 534 128 5 51 0.373
1932 NY AL 13 5 156 41 133 120 137 457 130 2 62 0.341
1933 NY AL 21 3 138 34 137 97 103 459 114 4 90 0.301
1934 NY AL 17 4 105 22 125 78 84 365 104 1 63 0.288
1935 BOS NL 0 0 13 6 28 13 12 72 20 0 24 0.181
TOT TOT TOT 506 136 2873 714 2503 2174 2213 8399 2062 123 1330 0.342
Pitching Statistics
Year Team LG W L ERA ER G GS CG IP H R SH BB SO SV
1914 BOS AL 2 1 3.91 10 4 3 1 23 21 12 0 7 3 0
1915 BOS AL 18 8 2.44 59 32 28 16 217.2 166 80 1 85 112 0
1916 BOS AL 23 12 1.75 63 44 41 23 232.2 230 83 9 118 170 1
1917 BOS AL 24 13 2.01 73 41 38 35 326.1 244 93 6 108 128 2
1918 BOS AL 13 7 2.22 41 20 19 18 166.1 125 51 1 49 40 0
1919 BOS AL 9 5 2.97 44 17 15 12 133.1 148 59 0 58 30 1
1920 NY AL 1 0 4.50 2 1 1 0 4 3 4 0 2 0 0
1921 NY AL 2 0 9.00 9 2 1 0 9 14 10 0 9 2 0
1930 NY AL 1 0 3.00 3 1 1 1 9 11 3 0 2 3 0
1933 NY AL 1 0 5.00 5 1 1 1 9 12 5 0 3 0 0
TOT TOT TOT 94 46 2.28 309 163 148 107 1221.1 974 400 17 441 488 4
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Yeah , but he never actually pointed where he was going to hit a home run , or more accurately , part of his ritual was to hold the bat motionless pointed towards right center field . He just happened to hit one out one day while a sportswriter was watching , and the writer made the claim that the Babe pointed to where he hit it .
Dusty