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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: drdwb on August 21, 2016, 02:58:04 PM
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This will sound like a stupid question, but to an overly analytical or perhaps anal retentive person such as my self it is a legit question, The Breva is a new addition.
The owners manual for the Breva has an illustration of the dip stick showing 2 levels max and min, unfortunately the illustration does not actually show what you see on the stick,
To me the stick has 3 levels, max, quart low, and your about to burn up your motor.
Designated by A , A slight indentation on the top flat part of the stick than at B approximately 1/4 inch below the top where the hash marks start and continue to the bottom , C is about about 1/4 inch up from the bottom.
The reason Iam Questioning this is when I do an oil and filter change, putting in the 1800cc/ml of oil, I take it for a ride,10-20 minutes,I return home put the bike up on the center stand and check the level , the oil on the stick is at the top of the stick A. Which is clearly above the hash markings on the stick.
I've tried several times to add an image of the dip stick to this post but the imgbb program to add images attachments appears to be hung up since 10 am today.
I will edit this post an add an image when it allows, I'm just looking for a response from a Breva or small block owner to tell me what marks they use for oil levels?
Thanks
Dave
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Two responses I've heard, and use. "Don't screw in the stick when checking on the center stand..." and , "There are two drain screws on the small blocks.."
A third I use is don't top them off, stay halfway to keep it from puking into the air box
Fourth is use Dino in the rear drive to keep it from misting out too much
There's plenty more
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Thanks for the reply Chuck, interesting, when checking with the stick just in ,not screwed in the level comes nicely to the top of the B MArk or about a 1/4 inch below the indentation I mentioned as A in the original post.
Still working on getting a picture up loaded through imgbb.
Thanks
Dave
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I've settled on 1.7L on the V7C, with the dipstick not screwed in, but resting on the edge.
It is confusing, as some owners manuals say screw the dipstick in & others )like mine - 2010 V7C - say don't. But 1.7L seems to work. BTW, my V7C uses oil - perhaps 500ml, to a litre between oil changes. On the other hand, the V7 Special doesn't seem to use any at all. I have had the oil warning light on the V7C come on once - estimated some 500ml left, with no apparent lasting damage.
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Drain the oil from both drain plugs. Put in 1.8l oil. Check the level without screwing in the dipstick. That's the correct level. On my Breva 750, the level measured that way is above the top mark. When it gets to where I can see the top of the meniscus, I change oil. Done deal.
BTW, this engine seems to be bullet proof. When I bought it in San Antonio to ride home to Santa FE, NM, I knew nothing about Moto Guzzi, but being an old time rider and owner of several motorcycles since the 50's, I checked fluids and got familiar with the bike at lower speeds until the freeway on the way home. I always keep a close watch on the instrumentation. 30 miles from home, going 80, I saw the big red light (didn't know what it was) come on and immediately turned off the engine and coasted to a stop. To my surprise, there was no front drain plug and about 1/2 cup of oil was still draining out. After new oil, and a couple of thousand miles later, the engine runs strong without undue noises. I now safety wire all plugs as on the airplane. Jurgen
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Being a twin TB 750 I would recommend a sump extension from Ed at Guzzipower that will allow adding of another quart/litre of oil as the twin TB models do have the inexplicable 'Disappearing Oil' syndrome. The extra litre will give you an added safety margin and has the benefit that as long as you ca. See the oil on the stick you know you've got enough!
Pete
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I've had my 750 Breva for 10 years now and 48K miles. First thing I did was get it a centerstand for accurate dipstick oil level measurement. I've ridden 2up & loaded a lot w/saddlebags & top case in triple digit temps(105-123F) and on occasion measured my dino oil temp. when I stop to see how hot it has gotten after riding @ 65-75 mph. Hardly ever do I have to adjust the tappet clearances while changing my oil every 3K miles, filter every 6K miles. :azn: Your results may vary. I have not added a sump oil spacer and so far see no need for 1.
Screw the dipstick all the way in to get an accurate reading of the sump oil level. There's 2 oil drain bolts, front & rear.