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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: chuck peterson on September 21, 2016, 06:52:11 AM
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/16/a-business-in-canada-is-offering-a-job-and-2-free-acres-of-land-if-you-relocate.html
You can ride all summer, for both days....
No, seriously, that's some incredible territory up there
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It's like going back in time up there. I love Cape Breton.. the topography, the people. :thumb:
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We just came back from a trip up there, there are certainly some lovely places. Lots of other issues too.
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We just came back from a trip up there, there are certainly some lovely places. Lots of other issues too.
What would those issues be?
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What would those issues be?
Issues are like bike seats ... what may be a huge negative for one person might be a benefit for another ... and suddenly there's a fight over the color of the carpet.
I do know that when I go to Canada, their biggest issue is NOT am I bringing a bomb or drugs into the country ... it's "am I trying to get a job there"? They are very sensitive about that, and you have to prove that you aren't going to try that .... !
Don't think I could stand the weather most of the time ....
Lannis
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Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, even Newfoundland close by, retirement pensions, and this opportunity to boot......hmmmmm thinking, thinking.....
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Tell us all aboot it.
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What would those issues be?
Per the locals, poorest province, highest taxes. We saw a lot of beautiful property, some of which still has me thinking-but again, according to local info, prices spiked due to German interest that has faded, but the prices remain beyond the reach of many.
If you like fishing, recreational salt water fishing is near non existent it seems.
Still, might work for me. My family is from PEI so it isn't a big cultural leap for me.
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I'd be there in a fraction of a heartbeat if the wife was willing.
-AJ
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if the wife was willing.
Such is life
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East Coasters ......
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic002/st%20john_zpsqefabhx9.jpg)
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Canada, like the USA is a very big country with a population 1/10th of our southern cousins. Most of the population is spread out in a thin band within a couple hundred miles of the border with the USA. Like the USA regional differences are evident from region to region, the coastal areas typically being described as more liberal and the internal regions more conservative though even this is a weak generalization. Shamefully I have toured at least half the continental USA and only a 1/4 of my own country. In the west here in what was the heart of oil country there were many Americans working full or part time. I love it when a European or American tells me they have a relative in Canada, Toronto they think, have I been there? Sorta like thinking every American lives in New York (most do right??)
In the US I always travel the secondary roads, stay in small towns and sleep and eat in ma and pop outfits. People always ask me what's the difference between the USA and Canada? Speaking of western Canada, Alberta to be specific I tell them its just like Texas with snow 5 months of the year and no hand guns. Same language, same cars, same TV, same pretty much everything. The second biggest difference is if a Canadian politician were to proclaim his or her religion they probably wouldn't get elected, Canadian's just talk about religion, we have very few private schools and most Canadians don't openly practice a faith. As for Politics, we have elections every 4 to 5 years, there is no President, no presidential campaigns and elections, once an election is called by the party in power the election cycle takes about 2 months, no primaries, boring, boring, boring. That's why we play hockey 10 months of the year and its on TV every night, gotta watch something.
Americans are always welcome up here, no guns please (rifles OK, Canadians hunt more than just about any other country).
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The grass always looks greener across the street!
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Americans are always welcome up here, no guns please (rifles OK, Canadians hunt more than just about any other country).
Don't know about Alberta but handgun ownership is allowed in Ontario, just not carry or for home defense. As for living there I have visited many hundreds of times and most always it has been a pleasant experience. Having visited all the provinces my first choice would be BC, in particular Vancouver if I could afford which I can't. Vancouver Island might work though. I like Ontario but the weather is too close to where I am now which means long winters and short summers so its out.
Pete
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The grass always looks greener across the street!
Looking at the recent stats, about 9,000 people a year move from the USA to Canada, and about 20,000 a year move from Canada to the USA. (Rough numbers over a 10 year average.)
I haven't talked to all of them, but given that the population of Canada is about 10% of that of the USA, you'd think there might be some reason. I suspect that snow has something to do with it.
Lannis
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Looking at the recent stats, about 9,000 people a year move from the USA to Canada, and about 20,000 a year move from Canada to the USA. (Rough numbers over a 10 year average.)
I haven't talked to all of them, but given that the population of Canada is about 10% of that of the USA, you'd think there might be some reason. I suspect that snow has something to do with it.
Lannis
Winter, eventually we all get tired of it! Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama are becoming the popular retirement places.
As for handgun ownership, the federal government regulates the sale and ownership of guns across Canada, handgun ownership is very restricted, lengthy back ground checks, in most cases a person can only use hand gun at a range and the hand gun must be transported to and from the range in a locked cabinet. By % of population Canadians own more long guns than Americans but almost no hand guns. We don't need no stinkin pistols, up here we tend to beat each other with our fists, some people call that hockey :evil:
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Winter, eventually we all get tired of it! Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama are becoming the popular retirement places.
As for handgun ownership, the federal government regulates the sale and ownership of guns across Canada, handgun ownership is very restricted, lengthy back ground checks, in most cases a person can only use hand gun at a range and the hand gun must be transported to and from the range in a locked cabinet. By % of population Canadians own more long guns than Americans but almost no hand guns. We don't need no stinkin pistols, up here we tend to beat each other with our fists, some people call that hockey :evil:
Hockey is for wusses that can't play lacrosse (Canada's real national sport! Highsticking is a way of life :evil: ). I played the genuine old-school, long wooden stick style lacrosse for many years; I'm not sure what to call that game they play in the Ivy League and prep schools with those short, plastic, symmetrical toothpicks...
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Same language, same cars, same TV, same pretty much everything.
But a lot less Kardashian.
I think that's important to highlight... :laugh:
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But a lot less Kardashian.
I think that's important to highlight... :laugh:
Yeah , but we got more of that Beeber kid :copcar:
Dusty
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Yeah , but we got more of that Beeber kid :copcar:
Dusty
Canada might even pay the US to keep him. It could get ugly as each country tries to get the other to hold on to the twit :boxing:
Interestingly, the top Canadian music tour this year was not Bieber - it was the Tragically Hip! They were #7 on the worldwide list of all tours, even though they never left Canada. Best Canadian band to never succeed in the US - then again, they never wanted to or tried.
Courage - it couldn't come at a worse time...
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I think there are more differences than would be apparent, especially the Maritimes. Maybe more differences between East and West in Canada-but I grew up with all my summers in Canada, and always felt the difference.
But yeah, BC and Alberta really are a lot more like Texas, now that I think about it!
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Just the same, I love Canada and Canadians. Of course, all I've done is ride my motorcycle and fish. :smiley:
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Looking at the recent stats, about 9,000 people a year move from the USA to Canada, and about 20,000 a year move from Canada to the USA. (Rough numbers over a 10 year average.)
I haven't talked to all of them, but given that the population of Canada is about 10% of that of the USA, you'd think there might be some reason. I suspect that snow has something to do with it.
Lannis
More likely economics. Canada generates way more educated people than the economy can absorb. You run into a lot of them in academia, Silicon Valley etc. I am a Canadian who has lived in the US for close to 30 years now. We blend in pretty well so it's hard to spot us unless we say aboot or talk about chesterfields or similar. I did my PhD in the US and never left. Have wanted to go back from time to time but life is mostly pretty comfortable here except for the friggin handguns which I too have never understood. However, I know it's a sensitive topic and I don't want to start one of THOSE threads. I likely will not be able to move back until I retire.
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I think there are more differences than would be apparent, especially the Maritimes. Maybe more differences between East and West in Canada-but I grew up with all my summers in Canada, and always felt the difference.
But yeah, BC and Alberta really are a lot more like Texas, now that I think about it!
BC=British California
OR
BC=Bring Cash
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Yeah , let's not start a gun thread , please :rolleyes:
I've been in Canada a few times , truly enjoyed the experience , largely friendly people , interesting food , some very noticeable cultural differences .
Dusty
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Winter, eventually we all get tired of it! Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama are becoming the popular retirement places.
As for handgun ownership, the federal government regulates the sale and ownership of guns across Canada, handgun ownership is very restricted, lengthy back ground checks, in most cases a person can only use hand gun at a range and the hand gun must be transported to and from the range in a locked cabinet. By % of population Canadians own more long guns than Americans but almost no hand guns. We don't need no stinkin pistols, up here we tend to beat each other with our fists, some people call that hockey :evil:
I love Edmontons chances on the ice this year . Young stars not afraid to hit and mix it up unlike our Vancouver Canucks !
As for the weather the only coast to live on year round in Canada is the west coast . Many Canadians retiring here in waves . We're calling it the silver tsunami !
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Hockey is for wusses that can't play lacrosse (Canada's real national sport! Highsticking is a way of life :evil: ). I played the genuine old-school, long wooden stick style lacrosse for many years; I'm not sure what to call that game they play in the Ivy League and prep schools with those short, plastic, symmetrical toothpicks...
Rugby players (so they say) think that lacrosse AND hockey players are all wimps. A tooth count would probably verify that.
Lannis
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More likely economics. Canada generates way more educated people than the economy can absorb. You run into a lot of them in academia, Silicon Valley etc. I am a Canadian who has lived in the US for close to 30 years now. We blend in pretty well so it's hard to spot us unless we say aboot or talk about chesterfields or similar. I did my PhD in the US and never left. Have wanted to go back from time to time but life is mostly pretty comfortable here except for the friggin handguns which I too have never understood. However, I know it's a sensitive topic and I don't want to start one of THOSE threads. I likely will not be able to move back until I retire.
"Never understood" might need some study on past history and current diversity, both of which are vastly different from the situation in Canada....
Lannis
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best thing in Canada, Hockey!
#2 Beer, it's so much better than American.. not starting a beer thread so leaving out micro brews, I'm talking about alcoholic content..love a real Molson Canadian, the kind we get in the US is different..
#3 common sense laws.
I don't mind winter, just the traffic jams from it.. no traffic jams in Thunder Bay.. I could build a cabin on Pie Island..
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e7/c0/70/e7c0701ab833964730c8af8d3cb8a65a.jpg)
(http://gripped.com/files/2013/06/pieisland.jpg)
wife is ready to pack..but not me.
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When I was in high school we considered a visible minority to be Italian, no kidding! Edmonton Alberta was a white European city as was much of the prairies. Foreigners where the kids of Ukrainian and Polish descent of which I am one. In the past thirty years Immigration has opened up and more people of varied ethnic backgrounds are making the west their home, this is a good thing.
All kidding aside Canada does not have a large racial divide, and there is not a national call to open the availability of hand guns.
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I live in New Brunswick on Canada's east coast,thats why I bought a Stelvio,to explore the back roads.I got tired of waiting for people to show up for rides so started looking for covered bridges as ride destinations,my rule is I can look at a map before I leave but can't take it with me and no GPS,if I find the bridge I find it if not i'll get it next time.Found 3 last Sat.The east coast is a little more layed back than the rest of Canada and may take a while to get used to,ie. the mentality "if you want it we can order it,if you want it today go somewhere else"
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Rugby players (so they say) think that lacrosse AND hockey players are all wimps. A tooth count would probably verify that.
Lannis
Rugby players eat their dead, the saying goes. Of course, cannibalism does lead to Mad Cow Disease, which could also explain rugby players!
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"Never understood" might need some study on past history and current diversity, both of which are vastly different from the situation in Canada....
Lannis
I feared I would provoke another nonsense debate and here we are. This will be my one and only response. I am 54 years young and have lived half my life in each country so I think I have a pretty good perspective on the strengths and weaknesses of each system. And let me the first to say that I love America and all (most?) that it stands for.....on paper and occasionally in the flesh. It is a nation of great potential. It is also worth reminding that I am an immigrant. Yeah I have a PhD, and yeah I have white skin, but I am a "non-resident alien" just the same. In the current political climate that is worth emphasizing. Maybe it would be more productive for all of us to listen more and preach less? Both countries are nations of immigrants. I think I have far more perspective on the Canada/US divide than the average citizen of either country and am happy to share my experiences if anyone is truly interested. Appreciation of history and current diversity goes both ways which it unfortunately does not. Never has. In my almost 30 years in this country, I have met a handful of Americans who really understand the role of their nation on the world stage and that has been very disappointing. And what does any of this drivel have to do with the best motorcycles in the world?
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Nothing .
Dusty
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I live in New Brunswick on Canada's east coast,thats why I bought a Stelvio,to explore the back roads.I got tired of waiting for people to show up for rides so started looking for covered bridges as ride destinations,my rule is I can look at a map before I leave but can't take it with me and no GPS,if I find the bridge I find it if not i'll get it next time.Found 3 last Sat.The east coast is a little more layed back than the rest of Canada and may take a while to get used to,ie. the mentality "if you want it we can order it,if you want it today go somewhere else"
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14316747_10208680297023604_3017825348991187641_n.jpg?oh=129502fcab7095c6db44d172e3282099&oe=586EDAE2)
I really like that area, running down through Cap
Pele was a fun ride to the ferry. Next trip up we hope to do the coast of NB into Quebec.
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I feared I would provoke another nonsense debate and here we are.
How does saying that current different living and political conditions in Canada relative to the USA have their roots in history mean that a "nonsense debate" has started?
It's the least nonsensical and most true statement you can make about the two countries WITHOUT getting into a stupid debate about "Who's Best?"
I think you're getting a little over-sensitive.
Lannis
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Cape Breton is a must do ride if your ever in the area...campgrounds at the oceanside, mountains on one side, ocean on the other., something like 40 ft tides in the Bay of Fundy..serious Winnebago traffic during the heights of summer, but a twist of the throttle and their gone, lots of wide two lane with lots of shoulder
Lots of smallish, drive in with showers and laundry type family campgrounds....take an ocean ride and catch the ferry out of Portland ME I believe...lots of open country, pretty rural. I lead several bicycling trips for teenagers up there.
Different location, I've wanted to take the road on the north side of the St Lawrence, up to where the road....ends. Yeah, that's it, find out where the road ends...I believe nick has a ride report from up there
Local Canadians have always been gracious, eh?
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Cape Breton is a must do ride if your ever in the area...
Fay and I did that a couple years ago ... two days on the Cabot Trail and we had perfect, clear weather all the time. Not everyone gets that sort of luck. Actually saw a whale from the road once.
Early June it was, and we saw no RVs or campers. It's not a "parkway", though, it's a working road, with logging trucks and such, and the trucks and weather can be brutal on the road surface.
Overall it's one of the premier rides you can take anywhere. We went "counterclockwise" so we were always on the same side of the road as the ocean - the views are incredible ....
Lannis
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Different location, I've wanted to take the road on the north side of the St Lawrence, up to where the road....ends. Yeah, that's it, find out where the road ends...I believe nick has a ride report from up there
Local Canadians have always been gracious, eh?
It's a great ride. If you don't want it to end quite so soon, turn north at Baie-Comeau on your way back and head up and across Labrador, then take the ferry across to Newfoundland.