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Title: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 02:02:10 AM
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2017-bmw-g310r-first-ride-review?cmpid=enews092016&spMailingID=26585441&spUserID=NjMxMTY5MDc5MzIS1&spJobID=883562386&spReportId=ODgzNTYyMzg2S0#page-10
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: webmost on September 23, 2016, 05:05:09 AM
A beemer Grom... I like it.
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: Adk.IBO on September 23, 2016, 06:27:53 AM
To many motorcycles, not enough money... I'd love to have one to take quick twisty rides on the mountain roads where I live. It would be a an eighth to tenth bike though😉!
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: leafman60 on September 23, 2016, 06:33:13 AM
Yeah, that's great. 

I still cannot understand BMW discontinuing the long-running (pun intended) and very reliable 650 single with no replacement.

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Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: fotoguzzi on September 23, 2016, 06:48:19 AM
(http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/sites/motorcyclistonline.com/files/styles/large_1x_/public/images/2016/09/bmw-g310r-front.jpg?itok=768-MkcJ&fc=50,50)
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: Irn on September 23, 2016, 10:05:48 AM
Interesting engine orientation, intake and air box on the front, exhaust on the rear.  Wonder why no belt instead of the chain. Designed in Berlin made in China?  Overall seems like fun, like the looks, hard to imagine BMW owners going that small, and of course over priced parts!
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: ITSec on September 23, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
I can't understand why these bikes are so often single cylinder machines. Having grown up with a Suzuki X6 Hustler and some Yamaha RD twins, I'd like to see more small bikes with more than one cylinder, but it seems today's manufacturers have decided that's too complex.
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: leafman60 on September 23, 2016, 12:40:47 PM
Interesting engine orientation, intake and air box on the front, exhaust on the rear.  Wonder why no belt instead of the chain. Designed in Berlin made in China?  Overall seems like fun, like the looks, hard to imagine BMW owners going that small, and of course over priced parts!

The ill-fated Cannondale a few years back also had the intake up front, exhaust out the back.

Designed in Germany made in India, not China.

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Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 04:30:15 PM
According to the article, they wanted to be the next bike up from the 250 class that an owner would want to keep.  Made in India to their spec's.
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: oldbike54 on September 23, 2016, 04:33:59 PM
I can't understand why these bikes are so often single cylinder machines. Having grown up with a Suzuki X6 Hustler and some Yamaha RD twins, I'd like to see more small bikes with more than one cylinder, but it seems today's manufacturers have decided that's too complex.

 Why would a small displacement twin be superior to a single ?

  Dusty
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 04:36:40 PM
This single is meant for a 89mph top speed with a single.  Seems plenty robust to around town duties with more torque than a twin. :popcorn:
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: flip on September 23, 2016, 04:39:38 PM
Why would a small displacement twin be superior to a single ?

  Dusty

More top end horse power but less low end torque. Hmmm, probably not a good trade off on a Guzzi forum...
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 04:52:38 PM
I think the design intent was for the class of rider just above entry level.  More interested in torque than horsepower.
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: DanD on September 23, 2016, 04:54:12 PM
Interesting engine orientation, intake and air box on the front, exhaust on the rear.  Wonder why no belt instead of the chain. Designed in Berlin made in China?  Overall seems like fun, like the looks, hard to imagine BMW owners going that small, and of course over priced parts!

Why no belt indeed? New riders aren't likely to be up on all the maintenance routines of bike ownership. Belts have proved indestructible and maintenance free on my HDs. I've put Sportster belts through all kinds of abuse both on and off road, not one has ever let me down. Really poor decision on BMWs part.  :rolleyes: 
 
 BMW used to represent low/easy maintenance and high reliability. Ever since the demise of the airheads they've consistently gotten less reliable and harder to maintain. I'm still sour about having to deal with 2013 Husky TR650 that neither BMW nor KTM will address the fueling issues it has.

Happily my Stelvio ticks all the right boxes and has been bulletproof to date.  :thumb:
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: ITSec on September 23, 2016, 06:58:04 PM
Why would a small displacement twin be superior to a single ?

  Dusty

Not necessarily superior, but not inferior either - just different.

I am simply disappointed that the small twins are so hard to find in the newer designs, since choice and variation are a 'good thing'. Right now, the 250/300 group are a bit too cookie-cutter for my tastes.
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: twowings on September 23, 2016, 07:00:39 PM
Aren't these being recalled for bursting into flames?  :evil:
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: derek533 on September 24, 2016, 07:49:41 AM
Nice looking bike but would still take the KTM 390 Duke over this one. 
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: sign216 on September 24, 2016, 07:57:59 AM

 BMW used to represent low/easy maintenance and high reliability. Ever since the demise of the airheads they've consistently gotten less reliable and harder to maintain.


Yep, and that's why I switch to Guzzi.  The smallblock has all the easy maintenance of the BMW airheads.
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on September 24, 2016, 03:30:48 PM
  Now if it just looked like a motorcycle,---  and where are the sidecar mounts?
Title: Re: New small BMW 313cc's
Post by: pressureangle on September 24, 2016, 04:07:46 PM
Already got a city bike. 35hp should be no problem, either.

Going for this look;

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