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Title: Who knows......
Post by: Mark Harpell on September 23, 2016, 06:36:17 PM
The correct pronunciation of Norge?.......I know in Norwegian it sounds like Noryay.(Mom is a Scand), I've heard it all sorts of ways...Norj (like the appliances),.Norgay....Norg....should we be using the Italian pronunciation?, which I wouldn't know anyway....or ??......I just dont want to sound any more like an idiot than I already do..... Been bugging me......I need a hobby...
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Post by: Sheepdog on September 23, 2016, 06:43:11 PM
I don't know, but I like nor-yay...
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Post by: twowings on September 23, 2016, 06:50:14 PM
Nor-guh
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Post by: ITSec on September 23, 2016, 06:54:58 PM
The Norweigians I know don't say Nor-yay. They sort of swallow the g and make it soft, and the e doesn't become a fully long 'a', but a kind of schwa. Emphasis is on the first syllable, so it comes out kind of "Nor - ghe" (again, the g is soft and swallowed).

There's a Wiki link for a playback of a native speaker saying the word at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/No-Norge.oga (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/No-Norge.oga)

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Post by: fotoguzzi on September 23, 2016, 06:56:47 PM
Rhymes with George here at my house in Minnesota.

at least that's what we called our fridge when I was growing up.. 
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Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 06:58:47 PM
"Nor guh" but a lot of the guys say it like the refrigerator.
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Post by: acogoff on September 23, 2016, 07:35:59 PM
     Being from a town called Viking and very Norwegian, I have always pronounced it as follows: Pronounced like you would say nor -gay except the a is extremely short and the y is silent
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Post by: Penderic on September 23, 2016, 07:36:57 PM
I think 10 Norge motorcycles together in a group ride is called a Norgee. (N-orgy)
 :laugh:

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Post by: Gliderjohn on September 23, 2016, 08:30:04 PM
I gave up a long time ago and just go with the fridge.
GliderJohn
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Post by: oldbike54 on September 23, 2016, 08:40:09 PM
I gave up a long time ago and just go with the fridge.
GliderJohn

 Kelvinator ??  :laugh:

 Dusty
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Post by: Tom on September 23, 2016, 08:41:05 PM
Hotpoint???
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Post by: ITSec on September 23, 2016, 09:07:41 PM
I gave up a long time ago and just go with the fridge.
GliderJohn

The brand doesn't matter - as long as it's full of good beer!
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Post by: craigclu on September 24, 2016, 12:49:54 AM
How do the Italians pronounce it?  Just curious....  I'm Norse and have Norwegian friends and they pronounce it as has been described.  I've lazily just called mine a Norj as it rolls off the tongue easier for me.
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Post by: azguzzirep on September 24, 2016, 01:49:50 AM
How do the Italians pronounce it?  Just curious....  I'm Norse and have Norwegian friends and they pronounce it as has been described.  I've lazily just called mine a Norj as it rolls off the tongue easier for me.

My good friend Roberto Rusconi who lives in Lecco calls his  a 'Nor-gay''.
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Post by: Mark Harpell on September 24, 2016, 07:35:30 AM
O.k. So how do we pronounce "porsche"..?.........kidding... kidding.. :grin:
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Post by: oldbike54 on September 24, 2016, 07:44:16 AM
O.k. So how do we pronounce "porsche"..?.........kidding... kidding.. :grin:

 A young lady once told me she "liked those Bew Ells" . Took a while to figure that one out  :laugh:

 Guy from New York drives to Nacogdoches TX , decides to stop at the local Dairy Queen for lunch . After he orders , he asks the young lady behind the counter how to pronounce this place . She replies in an East Texas drawl "Dayree Queen"  :laugh:

 Dusty
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Post by: PJPR01 on September 24, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
O.k. So how do we pronounce "porsche"..?.........kidding... kidding.. :grin:

Properly...one hopes!! :thumb:
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Post by: oldbike54 on September 24, 2016, 08:04:55 AM
Properly...one hopes!! :thumb:

 Corrrctly it is Por$che

 Dusty
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Post by: Luap McKeever on September 24, 2016, 08:06:00 AM
Norge.    [nawr-guh]


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/norge
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Post by: Bill Hagan on September 24, 2016, 08:35:23 AM


I am not, of course, consistent in my approach -- hobgoblins, etc.  :wink: -- but I approach this as I do other "furin" words.  Unless in that country, I don't say, e.g., Milano, Firenze, or Venezia, but, here in the U.S.A., say Milan, Florence, and Venice.

Though I rarely quote marines  :wink:, this debate reminds me of what USMC Commandant, Gen. Shoup said of swagger sticks: "If you feel the need of it, carry it."   :laugh:

So, for me, as my sig line notes, it's NORJ, as in the appliance.  Naturally, this only applies to the red ones.  :smiley: 

Bill
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Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 24, 2016, 08:51:45 AM
Call it the one with the dashboard problems
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Post by: Curtis Harper on September 24, 2016, 09:04:40 AM
Whenever a Customer asks me the proper way to say it, I always ask his preferred method, and then agree. Customer is always right they say.
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Post by: Rotten Ralph on September 24, 2016, 09:17:17 AM
Nica bika ??
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Post by: Lannis on September 24, 2016, 09:42:15 AM

I am not, of course, consistent in my approach -- hobgoblins, etc.  :wink: -- but I approach this as I do other "furin" words.  Unless in that country, I don't say, e.g., Milano, Firenze, or Venezia, but, here in the U.S.A., say Milan, Florence, and Venice.

Though I rarely quote marines  :wink:, this debate reminds me of what USMC Commandant, Gen. Shoup said of swagger sticks: "If you feel the need of it, carry it."   :laugh:

So, for me, as my sig line notes, it's NORJ, as in the appliance.  Naturally, this only applies to the red ones.  :smiley: 

Bill

Sometimes words get "assimilated" into another language, and the word picks up, as a result, the pronunciation of the new language.   There's nothing "disrespectful" about that, it's just a linguistic fact.   Linguists have used this very feature to track the flow of migration of peoples over the years.

For example, the place where we used to have the Virginia Rally.   It's spelled Buena Vista.

In a Spanish-speaking country, that town would be called "B-WAY-na VEES-tha", with a soft "th" sound for the "t", tongue between the teeth.

However, in Rockbridge County, Virginia, the town is pronounced 'B-YOON-ah VISS-ta', since English is the primary language spoken there (even though many Yankees would disagree).

To me, it sounds a bit "pretentious" to ostentatiously use a foreign pronunciation on a word that has been used in English for a hundred years .... like saying "Chez LON-ga" instead of "Chase Lounge" for that thing you nap on, on the back porch ...

Although, now that I think of it, I DO still say "Or-DERV" and not "Horse Doovers" for little treats on toothpicks ....

Lannis
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Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 24, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
Sometimes words get "assimilated" into another language, and the word picks up, as a result, the pronunciation of the new language.   There's nothing "disrespectful" about that, it's just a linguistic fact.   Linguists have used this very feature to track the flow of migration of peoples over the years.

For example, the place where we used to have the Virginia Rally.   It's spelled Buena Vista.

In a Spanish-speaking country, that town would be called "B-WAY-na VEES-tha", with a soft "th" sound for the "t", tongue between the teeth.

However, in Rockbridge County, Virginia, the town is pronounced 'B-YOON-ah VISS-ta', since English is the primary language spoken there (even though many Yankees would disagree).

To me, it sounds a bit "pretentious" to ostentatiously use a foreign pronunciation on a word that has been used in English for a hundred years .... like saying "Chez LON-ga" instead of "Chase Lounge" for that thing you nap on, on the back porch ...

Although, now that I think of it, I DO still say "Or-DERV" and not "Horse Doovers" for little treats on toothpicks ....

Lannis


I've been meaning to "axe" you about that :laugh:
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Post by: Tom on September 24, 2016, 01:04:38 PM
O.k. So how do we pronounce "porsche"..?.........kidding... kidding.. :grin:

1st you have to realize that German is not Italian.  A Germanic language vs. a Romance language.  Obviously, 2 different languages.  Correct pronounciation is what a German would say. :grin:
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Post by: oldbike54 on September 24, 2016, 01:15:58 PM
 Oh kuddlemuddle  :laugh:

 Dusty
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Post by: Tom on September 24, 2016, 01:23:26 PM
La aria il bocca....merda!   :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Post by: Two Checks on September 24, 2016, 02:24:14 PM
How do you pronounce "Norge"?

Goot-see.
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Post by: ejs on September 24, 2016, 03:38:44 PM
How do you pronounce "Norge"?

Goot-see.
Post 18 is spot on !! :boozing:
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Post by: Mark Harpell on September 24, 2016, 05:36:02 PM
1st you have to realize that German is not Italian.  A Germanic language vs. a Romance language.  Obviously, 2 different languages.  Correct pronounciation is what a German would say. :grin:
Yes, I guess I should have asked how its pronounced in Italian and if thats how we should say it....
The porsche thing was a joke....