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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: EldoMike on October 19, 2016, 10:12:39 PM
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Looks like it is happening...
http://www.bikeexif.com/new-triumph-bobber
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Remove the speedo and turn indicators , change the forks to a girder , put a ding or two in strategic places , dull the paint a bit , and weld up the soft tail , voila , pretty much what I started on in 1968 ... :laugh:
Dusty
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Reminds me of my old 5T. I like the idea of the adjustable seat. Had Indian done that with the Scout I might have been riding one of those instead of a V7.
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I had a ridged frame 1955 Triumph 650 Thunderbird that was a 60's style chopper when I got it around 1978. It had pull back handlebars, king/queen seat, sissy bar, peanut gas tank and two square headlights, one above the other.
After a while riding it like this I took off the peanut tank, seat, handlebars, lights and cut off the sissy bar even with the rear fender. I installed a single headlight, drag bars, a chrome coffin gas tank (not a good idea in AZ) and a small saddle seat. Looked a lot like what's being offered here.
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Remove the speedo and turn indicators , change the forks to a girder , put a ding or two in strategic places , dull the paint a bit , and weld up the soft tail , voila , pretty much what I started on in 1968 ... :laugh:
Dusty
I built for a guy a few years back, 60's 650 parts, bolt on hardtail, faded on purpose paint and a few dents .....I rode in recently for several hours in the "Ride of Distinguished Gentlemen" ......It draws admirers like flies to a steaming coil....Riding on pot holed city roads or rough country roads made me feel like a steaming coil...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8517/8347960948_6e79e3f5e9_c.jpg)
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I'd give Triumph a big "Thumbs Up" for effort. :thumb: :1: It's not my cup tea as I would prefer the standard Bonneville or Thruxton, but definitely way cool! :grin: :cool:
(http://thumb.ibb.co/gsRktv/new_triumph_bobber.jpg) (http://ibb.co/gsRktv)
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Triumph :thumb:
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Pretty cool :thumb:
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I'm taking notes on this thread, and every guy who bitches about the Cali or a Harley being too "cruiserish" or having "forward controls" and likes this gets an official ---> :boxing: :tongue: :laugh:
I'll say what I did on the Sportster forum (where many love it).
I don't like it. I feel the same way about it as I did the Bonnie America, or the Sportster Custom, etc.
HECK, I'd take a Scout or Octane over it.
But I'd also take a T120 or Street Twin over it.
That said, hey "a butt for every seat".
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that is how a Bonneville should look. I can see it with ape hangers too.. good job Triumph!
(http://kickstart.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/new-triumph-bobber-1-625x417.jpg)
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I'm taking notes on this thread, and every guy who bitches about the Cali or a Harley being too "cruiserish" or having "forward controls" and likes this gets an official ---> :boxing: :tongue: :laugh:
I'll say what I did on the Sportster forum (where many love it).
I don't like it. I feel the same way about it as I did the Bonnie America, or the Sportster Custom, etc.
HECK, I'd take a Scout or Octane over it.
But I'd also take a T120 or Street Twin over it.
That said, hey "a butt for every seat".
Well,we do agree on some things.....next they will be bitching about limited rear suspension travel on Harleys :wink:
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I like it. but I'm easy. Pretty much anything with two wheels and a motor gets me interested.
That said this has a more authentic feel to it than Indians, for example.
IMHO...related to that other "is Harley in trouble" thread, this is what I believe is happening to Harley. A younger generation is getting options like these. The V7, Ducati Scrambler. If you're relatively new to motorcycles, any one of those is WAY more appealing and practical than the majority of Harley's offerings, and without the stigma/cultural obligations Harley "demands".
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I like it. but I'm easy. Pretty much anything with two wheels and a motor gets me interested.
That said this has a more authentic feel to it than Indians, for example.
IMHO...related to that other "is Harley in trouble" thread, this is what I believe is happening to Harley. A younger generation is getting options like these. The V7, Ducati Scrambler. If you're relatively new to motorcycles, any one of those is WAY more appealing and practical than the majority of Harley's offerings, and without the stigma/cultural obligations Harley "demands".
I disagree.
That wouldn't explain why Sportster/Street sales are UP 9 months 2016 vs. 2015.
Harley is feeling the overall economic crunch because in the last few years their best selling bikes became their biggest, most expensive, and most due for an upgrade.
I also don't think younger riders give as much of a crap of the "stigma" or "image" as many of the older riders.
That said, the real reason kids don't buy dressers is that they don't have $18-25k to spend on bikes and $8-10k or used is a lot more attractive (enter the Sportster/Street, Bonnie, V7, Scrambler etc.).
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Kev sez
I disagree.
That wouldn't explain why Sportster/Street sales are UP 9 months 2016 vs. 2015.
I disagree. :smiley: The Sportster is in the same league as
The V7, Ducati Scrambler. If you're relatively new to motorcycles, any one of those is WAY more appealing and practical than the majority of Harley's offerings, and without the stigma/cultural obligations Harley "demands".
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Kev also sez
I'm taking notes on this thread, and every guy who bitches about the Cali or a Harley being too "cruiserish" or having "forward controls" and likes this gets an official ---> :boxing: :tongue: :laugh:
I'm one of em, and for the Triumph bobber, I do not like it, Sam I am. IMHO the Guzzi bobber is a much better looking bike, and I don't much care for it, either. :smiley:
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any one of those is WAY more appealing and practical than the majority of Harley's offerings,
Harley is feeling the overall economic crunch because in the last few years their best selling bikes became their biggest, most expensive, and most due for an upgrade.
That said, the real reason kids don't buy dressers is that they don't have $18-25k to spend on bikes and $8-10k or used is a lot more attractive (enter the Sportster/Street, Bonnie, V7, Scrambler etc.).
I think we're saying the same thing. You said it more thorough-er
When I referenced the majority, in my mind I was excluding the Sportster.
Dressers fly in the face of the less is more/tiny house/resale shop paradigm, where those other bikes don't.
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Kev sez
I disagree. :smiley: The Sportster is in the same league as
Silly subjective point, the objective truth is they are in the same MARKET pulling from many of the same customer pools, which is all I was saying.
That said, you're right, as much as I LOVE my V7, my Sportster is:
1. More comfortable, especially 2-up, long distance, and/or in cold/foul weather.
2. More powerful/faster.
3. Even easier to maintain.
4. Better mapped out of the box.
So in many ways it's a league above my V7. :boozing:
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Kev also sez
I'm one of em, and for the Triumph bobber, I do not like it, Sam I am. IMHO the Guzzi bobber is a much better looking bike, and I don't much care for it, either. :smiley:
Then you're not one of em... :thumb:
I think we're saying the same thing. You said it more thorough-er
When I referenced the majority, in my mind I was excluding the Sportster.
Dressers fly in the face of the less is more/tiny house/resale shop paradigm, where those other bikes don't.
My bad, perhaps I missed a subtle but important part of your post.
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To my own surprise, I actually quite like the look.
But it's butt jewelry: fine if you are just nipping down to the coffee shop, but useless for much else.
Nick
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I disagree.
That wouldn't explain why Sportster/Street sales are UP 9 months 2016 vs. 2015.
Harley is feeling the overall economic crunch because in the last few years their best selling bikes became their biggest, most expensive, and most due for an upgrade.
I also don't think younger riders give as much of a crap of the "stigma" or "image" as many of the older riders.
That said, the real reason kids don't buy dressers is that they don't have $18-25k to spend on bikes and $8-10k or used is a lot more attractive (enter the Sportster/Street, Bonnie, V7, Scrambler etc.).
Just a little different perspective as to why the sportster/street sales are up.
In our store one of my computers has a screen saver that scrolls thru bikes I currently ride & those I've had in the past.
It has started many a fine conversation & I always ask what they ride & why they chose that bike.
When it comes to young folks on Harley's the answer is almost always the same.
My Dad (or GranPa) rides/rode an HD & they told me if I was going to ride then I'd better ride a real American bike.
Many times if they chose an HD they would get help with financing: co-sign, down payment, goodies.
Other reasons: like the sound, chicks dig 'em, local dealer, always wanted one.
In fairnesss I will also say that most of them are satisfied with their purchase.
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This instead:
http://ridermagazine.com/2016/10/04/2017-triumph-bonneville-t100-and-t100-black-first-look-review/
Most likely bike to replace my V7R. We will see if MG builds a V9 with a Classic look. Love the old Triumph configuration.
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I like the Triumph bobber.
Vic tried with the Gunner & sales are pretty good on it, I had one & really liked the bike overall but like with any machine today there were some niggles that I didn't like.
When these get to the dealer I'll test one.
For the person who wants "cool" without being able to weld one up it's a hit.
Hope they sell a pile of 'em.
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Just a little different perspective as to why the sportster/street sales are up.
In our store one of my computers has a screen saver that scrolls thru bikes I currently ride & those I've had in the past.
It has started many a fine conversation & I always ask what they ride & why they chose that bike.
When it comes to young folks on Harley's the answer is almost always the same.
My Dad (or GranPa) rides/rode an HD & they told me if I was going to ride then I'd better ride a real American bike.
Many times if they chose an HD they would get help with financing: co-sign, down payment, goodies.
Other reasons: like the sound, chicks dig 'em, local dealer, always wanted one.
In fairnesss I will also say that most of them are satisfied with their purchase.
Well, I'm sure that's a factor, but I think there are larger reasons.
The solidmounted EVO sportster (aka paint shaker) was manufactured for 18 years from 86-03. That includes a 10 year period during which Harley TRIPLED their sales. In that time there were a total of 533,103 Sportsters sold.
Starting in 2004 Harley completely redesigned the EVO Sportster and debuted the EVO RUBBERMOUNT Sporty. Sales immediately spiked and have basically remained at levels above all but the very best peak years of the solidmount.
As a matter of fact it took Harley only a little more than 9 years to sell as many EVO Rubbermount Sportys as they ever had EVO solidmounts.
As of 2015 they sold a total of 686,985 EVO Rubbermount Sportys (and unfortunately the Street numbers are now mixed in but I'd estimate they amount to fewer than 20k of that total based on a Forbes report of their first year sales (2014).
My point, Harley did a tremendous job of doing 2 important things with the Sportster as of 2004.
1. They made it a comfortable/capable motorcycle better allowing it to compete for overall sales in the segment.
2. For the first real time they started to plan of systematically releasing model variants (from Roadster to Bobber, Custom, Chopper etc.) to attract more buyers.
Overall this really changed the Sportster from a "first time Harley" to a viable alternative model to the big twins in a lot of eyes. And especially for younger buyers who aren't interested (or capable) of spending twice as much for the Touring models, it became a sought out bike rather than something they were settling on to get into the marque.
There will always be people who buy the "entry level" model of a brand just to have that brand, but there are equally those who buy it for what it is.
Sort of how I own a V7 and a Sporty even though I've owned a Cali, a CARC, and a Road King.
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"The solidmounted EVO sportster (aka paint shaker) was manufactured for 18 years from 86-03. That includes a 10 year period during which Harley TRIPLED their sales. In that time there were a total of 533,103 Sportsters sold."
I had one of those Sportsters, put about 20,000 miles on the bike and sold it for almost what I payed for it. Never had a problem with it, great bike. Yeah, it vibrated.
Personally, I'd rather have a Sportster than the above Triumph.
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Disclaimer: Bobbers aren't my thing.
That said, the new Triumph Bobber looks much more the the part of what a Bobber is supposed to look like than V9 Bobber.
The solo seat and hard tail looking frame nail that look, period.
As Bobbers go, it looks great, though I'd never own one. The T120 is much more to my liking.
Kudos to Triumph for what looks like another well-executed product that is likely to expand their market reach, and increase sales.
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Now.....this I like. :drool:
(http://i0.wp.com/ridermagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Triumph-Street-Cup-beauty-location.jpg)
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I'm surprised that I like this. It doesn't look anything like the bikes I usually am attracted to. :laugh:
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I think the V9 bobber is much cleaner! But I do think they did a good job on the 1200 motor.
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Will be fun to see what folks do with these after the warranties expire. :thumb: Personally, I'm waiting for someone to salvage a new Thruxton. I want to build a sit up style Bonnie with the extra power and suspension of the Thruxton.
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I must say I like it. I like the Sporster as well, and prefer it. I can see the V9 having a version of this. Yes they literally have a "bobber", but it's not really. It could be, should be and I hope it will be.
Worth mentioning, I'm not a twin fan, V for me. Fake carb, fake air filters, fake tailpipe, etc is a turn off as well.
But the bike has character, and I like that in most every case.
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I built for a guy a few years back, 60's 650 parts, bolt on hardtail, faded on purpose paint and a few dents .....I rode in recently for several hours in the "Ride of Distinguished Gentlemen" ......It draws admirers like flies to a steaming coil....Riding on pot holed city roads or rough country roads made me feel like a steaming coil...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8517/8347960948_6e79e3f5e9_c.jpg)
this I like! :afro:
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I had a '56 that looked a lot like RER's bike. Wish I still had it!
On the new Bobber. I like it overall except: The seat looks like an afterthought. It needs something, like maybe 2 rear support posts or spring/shocks. The front end looks crushed in, like it needs a different rake angle to move the front out more. Or maybe it that the engine looks tilted forward and giving the crunched in look to the front wheel.
Tom
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The rear hub kinda resembles the ill fated sprung hub of the post war era .
Dusty
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that is how a Bonneville should look. I can see it with ape hangers too.. good job Triumph!
(http://kickstart.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/new-triumph-bobber-1-625x417.jpg)
It's easy to see that Triumph has been watching what people do with vintage Triumphs.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/cb/f5/18/cbf518d9e3393e15f4bd320c2a708364.jpg)
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The new Triumph bobber is not a hard tail bobber like the older Triumph shown directly above...It's bulky like all modern bikes and, in my opinion, because it needs to meet certain standards, just looks like a modern bike with a Harley Softail grafted onto it...
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UGLY engine in those things. Sportster wannabe ?
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UGLY engine in those things. Sportster wannabe ?
Well, wait a minute. The parallel vertical twin has a long and storied history and this is definitely an homage to what people did with them in the 60's.
I'll say this, as such it's a much better attempt than the former Triumph America or Speedmaster and I respect it as such even if it's not for me.
But it's not for me the same way the 1200C or 1200V aren't for me when there's better options:
1200CX or T120 in this case.
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Well, alright, I don't hate it. A water cooled bobber.
I agree that the seat looks like it could use some support.
The front disc rotor looks a little too modern. I'm not sure if the mirrors are the best fit for the look, although maybe functional.
I hope it comes in metal flake colors.
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Sportster wannabe? You're shittin' us right? I see no similarities at all.
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The new Triumph bobber is not a hard tail bobber like the older Triumph shown directly above...It's bulky like all modern bikes and, in my opinion, because it needs to meet certain standards, just looks like a modern bike with a Harley Softail grafted onto it...
Harley Softail? The new Triumph has a traditional cantilevered shock and swingarm. Not unlike a 1990s Sport 1100 or Ducati Supersport , and much better than Harley's Softail rear suspension.
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I applaud any effort such as this, even if it's far from perfect.
But from what I can gather (because I haven't ridden one), the new 900 and 1200 engines have a very modern feel to them. So isn't it an odd juxtaposition putting that engine in this package? Maybe that's exactly what folks want and so it will be more appealing than the V9 Bobber, which I have ridden and which, of course, in many respects isn't really a bobber, but is going to feel much more like one if you're riding it and close your eyes for a few seconds.
I'd like to see every manufacturer put out a bobber. That's the world I want to live in.
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But from what I can gather (because I haven't ridden one), the new 900 and 1200 engines have a very modern feel to them. So isn't it an odd juxtaposition putting that engine in this package?
This question struck me.
To me the great appeal of "retro-styled" or "neo-classic" bikes are the modern accoutrements (tinker-free/quick-starting EFI, strong brakes, decent enough chassis components.
I don't NEED the most power or the strongest brakes or Ohlins suspension, but I have nothing against most modern touches and they don't strike me as opposite the intent of a retro.
Those features strike me as the ideal retro, the neo-classic that functions better than the original when it was new (never mind when it is 20 years old).
Now some of us can go back and forth all day long about subjective feel, and I think most of us who ride Guzzis are probably fans of something that isn't too butter smooth in the first place as that can get somewhat appliance-like. But that's not how I've heard these engines described.
So to me, I see no juxtaposition.
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Harley Softail? The new Triumph has a traditional cantilevered shock and swingarm. Not unlike a 1990s Sport 1100 or Ducati Supersport , and much better than Harley's Softail rear suspension.
Yes, not identical but they are both for "style" and in that respect, the same... Modern Triumphs twins are excellent bikes no doubt about it. But in my opinion , when they attempt a retro look ,they are just too modern and bulky to pull it off...The modern V7 Guzzi does a better job of retro because it's nearly identical in proportions to the original.
Maybe I'm just too black and white for this stuff...I like honesty in a product. Jeeps that can be driven down a goat trail without ripping off 200 buck light and mirrors and women with no makeup..A bobber should be a minimalist machine in the tradition of Knucklehead Harley stripped down for more performance....The Triumph bobber I build for a guy and shown in the photo here is not my style either because it's "fake". A true Triumph bobber of the same era is a stripped swingarm frame...
I understand everyone has different opinions, and this is mine :laugh:
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The tank looks to big. It's out of perspective on that bike, and really the engine looks to big as well.
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I like it, if only for that Hinckley Bonneville engine. Truth is, the format is all wrong for me and I'm partial to the 360 degree motor version. However, Triumph created a great looking homage to an iconic genre (which has become their stock-in-trade) with a deceivingly modern power plant. Gorgeous, reliable, and somewhat sporting...but I'll be sticking with my '03 Bonneville T100 a bit longer.
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I think that is an extremely good looking motorcycle and that Triumph should sell a boatload of 'em. But. Does anyone else see the disconnect between the concept of a "bobber" as exemplified by RER's Triumph and a motorcycle equipped with ABS, traction control, cruise control, and heated grips?
I guess my red suspenders are showing!
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I think that is an extremely good looking motorcycle and that Triumph should sell a boatload of 'em. But. Does anyone else see the disconnect between the concept of a "bobber" as exemplified by RER's Triumph and a motorcycle equipped with ABS, traction control, cruise control, and heated grips?
I guess my red suspenders are showing!
I understand, what you're saying but dismiss it as relevant in these times. Allow me to explain why.
The concept of a bobber was minimalism for performance.
Yes, this flies in the face of that.
But such minimalism TODAY would be effectively irrelevant to performance.
You can get so much more performance out of a well equipped (with brakes, traction control, suspension, even bodywork equipped) 600cc sportbike that a 1200cc bobber can realistically be nothing more than a styling exercise.
And I find nothing wrong with that.
An homage
A replica
A style of RELATIVE minimalism, for minimalism's sake in a time where bikes with full fairings often sport not just wind control, but heated grips, heated seats, GPS, radios, intercoms, dual discs on inverted forks, and a host of other features.
And in that sense, this Bobber may just be true to the original intent, despite the seeming mass.
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Anyone know how much? Seems it'll cost more than 2016 T100 Bonneville at $9600. At least the seat can be moved for adjustment. Can you add a P pad and pegs for an occasional passenger? I'll reread it.
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With a handle of "Britman" you know I have to add my two cents. I do like the look of the new "Bobber", kind of beefy and low. Triumph is really doing it's best to cover all of the retro market. Sadly a number of the smaller dealers who first started with the brand when it came back to life, have given the franchise up. Specifications on floor space, decor, and the number of bikes on hand have become too much for the smaller shops. When I was Guzzi shopping I visited a dealer fairly close that carries both brands. There were allot of kids with spiked hair of assorted colors, piercings, sleeve tattoos, and name brand leathers on both the staff and customers. Of course the business is located in an old restored warehouse full of glitz and wall hangings. They were more than friendly enough, I was also getting some numbers ran on trading my Rocket 3 on a new Eldorodo which I am sure peaked some interest. Rode the R3 home, just couldn't do it. I just kind of miss the old downtown dealership with a grizzly old owner that knew every nut and bolt of his product and there was always the smell of 90 weight gear oil in the air. Yep, I am getting old.......Here is a shot of my 69 "Bonnie Bobber" from a few years back, revived it from the dead and went for a real 60's look. It ran great but it did take a forty acre field to turn it around......
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/britman1/MyChopper.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/britman1/media/MyChopper.jpg.html)
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Blurry shot. You have a different one?
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Blurry shot. You have a different one?
Only other one I have in the "Bucket", sorry I am included. I tried resizing the first one I posted and it looks fine from my end. When it comes to computer savvy I am on the same level as a stone age pygmy with his first Bic lighter.......
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/britman1/MetheGirls.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/britman1/media/MetheGirls.jpg.html)
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KevM, I was just being facetious, hard to get it across on the printed page. Any thing that will bring younger riders to the sport is okiedokie with me.
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Britman,
If I ever put my '53 together, you have what mine should look like. Though I'm still searching for an un-raked front frame section at a reasonable price and going with a stock length front end. I like both looks!!
Need to square away my running fleet, they assemble the '53 and see where I'm at.
Thanks for the pic!
Tom
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Good looking bike. :thumb:
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looks like they are going for a very modern bike with very retro looks.
wont pass final opinion until road tests are available but
provisionally im quite impressed, big improvement over hideous Triumph America, the back end though it looks retro seems to be more related to a modern sportbike than any HD softtail. If it outhandles every other retro bike, looks this good it will find its niche. might even be possible to bolt on a rear subframe replacing that seat so it could convert to two up or even a touring bike. concern though is the price suspect it will be expensive?. I guess Triumph would say they got cheaper retro bikes covered with the 900 twins?
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KevM, I was just being facetious, hard to get it across on the printed page. Any thing that will bring younger riders to the sport is okiedokie with me.
Aw shucks another of my wasted replies, lol 😚 [emoji15]
Oh well, I'm certain there are people who genuinely feel that way out there... my reply can stand for them. 😉 [emoji6]
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Not bad. But I would have to buy longer jeans so I can roll them up into a cuff with my workboots.
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Not bad. But I would have to buy longer jeans so I can roll them up into a cuff with my workboots.
Wouldn't that just mean jeans for normal sized people? [emoji14]
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Wouldn't that just mean jeans for normal sized people? [emoji14]
Says the angry fat kid....
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Says the angry fat kid....
:grin:
I'm big boned. [emoji56] [emoji38]
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looks like they are going for a very modern bike with very retro looks.
wont pass final opinion until road tests are available but
provisionally im quite impressed, big improvement over hideous Triumph America, the back end though it looks retro seems to be more related to a modern sportbike than any HD softtail. If it outhandles every other retro bike, looks this good it will find its niche. might even be possible to bolt on a rear subframe replacing that seat so it could convert to two up or even a touring bike. concern though is the price suspect it will be expensive?. I guess Triumph would say they got cheaper retro bikes covered with the 900 twins?
OK , a "touring bike" , sorry , gotta wonder why anyone would do that :shocked: For one thing , looking at how close the rear fender runs to the tire , looks like the rear fender is articulated . That explains why the seat is mounted that way also .
Dusty
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I don't think the rear fender is articulated...it's just fastened to the swing arm. I haven't seen an articulated rear fender since they stopped making BMW /2s.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/JamesBagley/e52bea9f7969cf28d5b481fbe824bf9e.jpg)
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I don't think the rear fender is articulated...it's just fastened to the swing arm. I haven't seen an articulated rear fender since they stopped making BMW /2s.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/JamesBagley/e52bea9f7969cf28d5b481fbe824bf9e.jpg)
Guess we are defining articulated and hinged differently , the BMW fender didn't move with the swing arm , the Triumph fender will have to move .
Dusty
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Says the angry fat kid....
:grin:
:grin:
:popcorn:
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I don't think the rear fender is articulated...it's just fastened to the swing arm. I haven't seen an articulated rear fender since they stopped making BMW /2s.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c229/JamesBagley/e52bea9f7969cf28d5b481fbe824bf9e.jpg)
Isn't the hinge in the /2 swing arm just there to make it easier to get the rear wheel off to fix a flat?
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Isn't the hinge in the /2 swing arm just there to make it easier to get the rear wheel off to fix a flat?
Yes.
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OK , a "touring bike" , sorry , gotta wonder why anyone would do that :shocked: For one thing , looking at how close the rear fender runs to the tire , looks like the rear fender is articulated . That explains why the seat is mounted that way also .
Dusty
ok touiring is a stretch but
put it this way look at the frame and rear suspension. It's got the bobber look but the mechanicals of it are more like a ducati monster or 999 without the rear subframe than its like a HD. It might handle very well? the seat is apparently removable / repositionable its a kind of minimalist subframe.
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I wonder if Triumph have a passenger seat solution?
HD used a removable cantilevered seat subframe for its Rocker C custom...
(http://www.redline.co.za/pics/Harley%20Rocker%20C%2004.jpg)
(http://www.redline.co.za/pics/Harley%20Rocker%20C%20take2%2014.jpg)
(http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv282/RockerRider08/HD%20Passenger%20Seat/DSC_00015x7.jpg)
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It's not for me. But I think Triumph know their market, and that bike will hit the target well, and they will sell brazillions of 'em. So that's a job well done.
But I do wish Triumph would develop the triples more. That's what would interest me. I'd love to see something styled a bit like the Thunderbird Sport, but with some serious power from a big bore version of the 1050 triple. Or something to out-max the V-Max based on the Rocket 3 lump. That engine has such potential. So far it has been used in some very sensible bikes. I'd like to see something that isn't even remotely sensible.
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Wait ... WHAT ? A Rocket 3 is sensible ????? :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Dusty
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Sensible or not I loved mine and really wish I hadn't sold it. As much FUN as any machine I ever had.