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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Caffeineo on October 20, 2016, 07:34:52 PM
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I was driving out in farm land near Emmett Idaho and saw an old, weathered bike leaned up against a fence near the street. I saw it was an old Guzzi. :sad: Of course I had thoughts about offering the owner $100 but then thought what would I do if they accepted????? Too big of a project for me.
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Anyone interested???? I can always go back and see if they want to part with their gate guard.......
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Check out the bike at the peak of the garage.
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Has more than $100 in parts. :thumb:
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Looks like a drum brake 750 Sport!!!
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That does look like a hinged rear fender. The plot thickens.
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V7 Sport for sure.
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That does look like a v7 sport! I would be all over it if I was closer. Looks like it appears to be decent except for the seat, and has all the original hard to find parts.
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The plot really thickens: Swan neck clip ons, that gas tank, sidecovers, 4ls front brake. It's definitely a 750 Sport and very much worth restoring. Considering what a nice one will fetch nowadays, I wouldn't care if the motor was locked up or not!
--Mark
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Someone add to guzzi lore and go start it....
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Yep.....Swan neck clip-on's. Buy it otherwise I'll have some friends in the Moscow area pick it up.
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The plot really thickens: Swan neck clip ons, that gas tank, sidecovers, 4ls front brake.
It's definitely a 750 Sport V7 Sport and very much worth restoring. Considering
what a nice one will fetch nowadays, I wouldn't care if the motor was locked up or not!
Fixorated. :wink:
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Hey Mr Caffeino
I would be very interested in checking this out as a project if the owner was willing and wanted to part with his lawn art.
That could be a great long term project. And would give me a good reason to make a road trip out west and visit a brother in Utah.
I'll gladly send you contact info if your serious about checking this out. If Tom or his friends don't pick it up first.
Dave
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This is the start of a great story. ( hopefully)
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I'll take the tank, Shipping to 04578 please.
Thanks,
rad___
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It seems like it wood be dusty and dirty if its been sitting there for awhile?? :popcorn:
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Or a flower pot.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/eqayfa/Scan09.jpg) (http://ibb.co/eqayfa)
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It ran fine when I parked it.
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Surprised to see so much interest and even some kinda locals interested in this. As today is the warmest day of the week I was planning on going for a little ride. Might as well go see if I can talk to the owner. Not sure about how to make the connection between buyer and seller. It may currently be junk in his yard but if he learns about the interest it may suddenly become his favorite bike. :evil:
The only thing I would want out of this is to see a restoration thread here.
All PM's will be replied to after I ride by this afternoon and see if I can talk to someone......
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Surprised to see so much interest and even some kinda locals interested in this. As today is the warmest day of the week I was planning on going for a little ride. Might as well go see if I can talk to the owner. Not sure about how to make the connection between buyer and seller. It may currently be junk in his yard but if he learns about the interest it may suddenly become his favorite bike. :evil:
The only thing I would want out of this is to see a restoration thread here.
All PM's will be replied to after I ride by this afternoon and see if I can talk to someone......
Don't say that there's a lot of interest, just that you're curious about the bike and wonder if it's for sale.
Dean
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Don't say that there's a lot of interest, just that you're curious about the bike and wonder if it's for sale.
Dean
Or that you have a friend who's looking for an old motorcycle project.
Shaun
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Or... offer to haul it away for a small fee ...
Dusty
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or don't ride up there on a Moto Guzzi.....
Mark
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:1: on all the previous answers.
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I'm just surprised Mike & Frank have't found it !!!.
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This is like the worse tease ever. :tongue:
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they could remove the heads and use it as a yard light!
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And here I am searching CL for a winter project.
In Pennsylvania!
Argh.
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This thread MUST continue!
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Just got back from a ride on the 1200 Sport....... I was greeted by the owners dog and then the bikes owner. Very friendly and nice person. We chatted for at least an hour about bikes. Showed me his Harley and told me about the Ural he used to have. To get to the point the bike looks worse up close. He ended up shooting the tank with a shotgun because a bird was on it. Got it out of an old barn. LOL He is very open to selling it OR trading for another old bike he can replace the Guzzi with. Not to drag this on but my internet is shite and I can not upload more pictures now. I could see the air box and speedometer are gone. He also told me he took a head off and saw the cylinders were scratched up so he put it together and stuck it out on the fence. I'll reboot the modem and try the pictures again soon........
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Still probably worth saving. Bird shot from a shotty wouldn't damage much.
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Still interested??? :bow:
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I've seen worse.
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Sorry for not replying to all the PM's but my internet connection is just not going for it. I can click on the PM but it fails to load???
I'll try again tomorrow.
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My 850T was way worse. That is definitely worth saving.
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you should offer $500 or $1,000 and take it home.. then put on ebay with a reserve for what you paid..
the circus will begin.. in case you don't know the V7 Sport is the holy grail to Guzzi collectors..
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Isn't worth a dime. The coils are missing. No front turn signals. Seat, shocks, and tank are shot (literally!). Rear tire needs replaced. Electrical tape on the starter wire. Headlight is totally out of commission. Nah, not worth a dime.
So, exactly where is this located again?
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Thanks for more pix. If he has the title, it's worth getting and putting it back into shape. :thumb:
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I've seen worse.
This is just incredible, to find a V7 Sport just sitting out there... A real "Outside the Barn Find"... crazy...
A T-3 that I dragged home back in the Spring, gathering parts from the rebuild right now. Still not the marque that the Sport is.
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Yikes! :shocked:
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Wow, it is sad to see that such an iconic Guzzi was left to go that bad, but, as others have said, it is definitely worth saving.
Tell me again why this isn't already in your (or another WG member's) garage?
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What the hell are you blokes waiting for ? Santa Claus is over 2 months away so you're not getting it free. Just someone go and buy the bugger, it's gonna be s PITA when he throws it in the trash and we get all the posts about how " I would'a given him a Grand for that", had anyone had a serious crack at buying it ? Seriosly, what's it gunna take ???
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Canuck750 could buff that baby to a shine in a weekend, c'mon already!
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My Saturday 100 mile off road loop turned into a 160 mile out and back when we hit snow that had been packed down and turned into ice. Slow going and too many near falls with 10 miles to the summit we (for once) made a good decision to turn around and go back. Than on the way home I was one of the first to the scene of a single vehicle accident. An hour later I was on my way home......late. Had to unload the dirt bike and gear, load the trials bike and gear for the Sunday trials ride. I need a good hour or two after trials riding so I just got the chance to call the owner and he agreed to $500 (multiple offers at this price). Gave the owners phone number to the first one to reply. Who also happened to live somewhat close by. Hopefully we will see a build thread here soon. Too big of a project for me and I have no desire to part it out or flip it. Just happy to see it get roadworthy again.
I also found out that you need to wait at least a minute between PMs. Most likely to help prevent spam.
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Amazing
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My Saturday 100 mile off road loop turned into a 160 mile out and back when we hit snow that had been packed down and turned into ice. Slow going and too many near falls with 10 miles to the summit we (for once) made a good decision to turn around and go back. Than on the way home I was one of the first to the scene of a single vehicle accident. An hour later I was on my way home......late. Had to unload the dirt bike and gear, load the trials bike and gear for the Sunday trials ride. I need a good hour or two after trials riding so I just got the chance to call the owner and he agreed to $500 (multiple offers at this price). Gave the owners phone number to the first one to reply. Who also happened to live somewhat close by. Hopefully we will see a build thread here soon. Too big of a project for me and I have no desire to part it out or flip it. Just happy to see it get roadworthy again.
I also found out that you need to wait at least a minute between PMs. Most likely to help prevent spam.
You beauty !!!
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Redo cables, electrics as needed, cover the seat in old Levi denim, give it tires, make it run great and ignore the rest. The shotgun divots just add character.
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Redo cables, electrics as needed, cover the seat in old Levi denim, give it tires, make it run great and ignore the rest. The shotgun divots just add character.
Then you can call it "restored" and put it in the MGNOC Classifieds for $15K
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Still interested??? :bow:
Absolutely worth rescuing (though not worth money as it stands)
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Do I detect a touch of sarcasm in this post? Or just a comment on some people's difinition of "restoration"?
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Then you can call it "restored" and put it in the MGNOC Classifieds for $15K
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It certainly is worth restoring as long as you don't count the time and money it takes to restore it.
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When used like that, it will never have warranty problems.
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Plenty of tread left on that rear tire.
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The tires are good "slight usage". Rolling around in the garage, keeping it on the center stand, rolling down the street to see if the drivetrain works, etc. Not high speed use going across a couple of states. :tongue: Still a lot there for $500 if I read Caffeineo's post correctly. (correction to name spelling)
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/slight
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The tires are good "slight usage". Rolling around in the garage, keeping it on the center stand, rolling down the street to see if the drivetrain works, etc. Not high speed use going across a couple of states. :tongue: Still a lot there for $500 if I read Caffineo's post correctly.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/slight
You read it right. 3 offers of $500 so I talked to the owner (nice guy that has had some hard times) and he was happy with $500 but also interested in getting something to replace it as he views it as "art". I think with a good restoration it would be "art" that could be a nice piece for the living room. :thumb:
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So it should be going to someone soon. :thumb: Hopefully they'll see the possibility of getting on the road. :thumb:
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So it should be going to someone soon. :thumb: Hopefully they'll see the possibility of getting on the road. :thumb:
My feeling too. It looks eminently re-buildable to me but it needs to happen, or at least the rot has to stop, in the near future. I'm not sure I would have offered a whole $500 though! If Art is all the fellow wants a dead Honda 50 should fill the bill. Straight swap plus maybe $50 as a starter? After all the current owner obviously doesn't care about it as a machine.
When you look at this machine part by part, starting with those unworn foot rest rubbers working out to those alloy rims, there is plenty to work with.
I faced a situation like this when some years ago I was rebuilding a 1953 500 RE Bullet. I stumbled across a dead 350 Bullet of the same era. It had been stored about 200 yards from the sea and prevailing salt laden air. It's spokes were 1/4 inch thick flaked rust and it was touch and go whether this machine could ever sensibly be rebuilt.
There were however parts on it that were worthy of rescue. I was particularly interested in its far superior (double sided) front brake.
The owner though was an oddball farmer who's 'thing' was that he had something I wanted. (there may have been some history there dating back to the Great Depression) Nothing was going to change that. Nothing reasonable anyway.
I checked up on it about a year later. It had moved out from under it's roof and was lying on it's side in a paddock. It had deteriorated to the point of uselessness. I told the guy to enjoy his anchor as I left.
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My feeling too. It looks eminently re-buildable to me but it needs to happen, or at least the rot has to stop, in the near future. I'm not sure I would have offered a whole $500 though!
IMO, that was a bargain. If it was parted out (not that I'm advocating that), you could easily quadruple your "investment".
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IMO, that was a bargain. If it was parted out (not that I'm advocating that), you could easily quadruple your "investment".
:1: I definitely would've paid $500 ASAP and taken it home.
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:1: I definitely would've paid $500 ASAP and taken it home.
Absolutely. For an original V7Sport? Pfffft. Pocket change. There are lots of good bones there.
This should turn out to be an epic build thread if the right guy has it.
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Without reading the entire thread, did someone here buy this bike, or is it still in the conversation stage?
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I would have bought that if I was in Idaho and Idaho is a large state. Rent a pu and put that and my Sp in the truck and both would head to the Moscow area.
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I was one of the local 500
But not the chosen first
Hopefully someone posts proof of purchase soon
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Without reading the entire thread, did someone here buy this bike, or is it still in the conversation stage?
I gave the owners contact info to someone in Washington who was very interested. So it should be a done deal. There was a Guzzi dealer here so I keep hoping to make a "garage find" of a California that just needs a little (very little) work to be ride able. Never thought there would be so much interest in this and almost did not post as I thought it had deteriorated to the junk level. One mans trash is another's treasure.
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Hello All,
I guess it is time to introduce myself. I bought the v7 sport. I have been a member of Wild Guzzi for years, look at it sometimes, but have never written anything. I am still working - a custom home builder with 5 employees, have 3 grown kids and 4 grown step kids and a bunch of grandchildren, so don't have a lot of time to mess around on the computer. Plus I am a 2 finger typist, so it is kind of slow going. I live south of Kettle Falls, WA, on the side of a mountain, near the Columbia River. It is about 85 miles north of Spokane. I am 62 years old and started riding as a senior in high school. I got my first Guzzi in 1999, and not counting the v7 sport have 6. A T3, LM3, Eldorado, v11 Lemans, Griso and Norge. I also have an xb9s Buell and a BSA Rocket 3 I got from my uncle, that he had when I was in high school! I enjoy working on old bikes, and belong to the VME and the WVM. The v7 is going to take some work! A couple of my step sons live in Boise, so I am fairly familiar with the area. Apparently I turned on the computer right after Mike posted it, and I immediately replied. That is why I got first crack at it. I have had really good luck getting bikes near Boise. My Eldo and my Griso both came from there.
The guy who had the v7 is a really nice guy, and interesting to talk to. He really was using it as a lawn decoration. He was a FedEx driver, and it was in a field where he delivered a package. He asked the resident about the bike. He said someone was going by on it and it broke down, and the guy just left it in his field. It sat there for several years until the Fed Ex man asked about it. The resident said "if you like it you can just take it," so that is how he came to have it. He thought it was cool because it was unusual and beautfully styled. I gave him $500 for it. Unfortunately there is no title, no plate, and nobody knows who the guy who left it in the field was. Plus it was over 10 years ago. I really want to rebuild it, since it is a v7 sport. I have quite a collection of Guzzi parts that I have collected over the years. Many of them will work on the v7 sport. I don't want to put any money into it, though until I get the title squared away. Time to visit the Washington State Patrol and check out the VIN number.
I will definitely keep you all posted on the progress of this project with a very interesting history. How often does somebody come across a v7 sport sitting out in a field? Kind of like the 900ss that was in Motorcycle Classics a couple months ago. I will have to learn how to post pictures. I can't wait to hose it all down with Move-It (the world's greatest penetrating oil. Those of us lucky enough to live near Canada can get it up there.) It looks like it will need a couple gallons. It will be snowing soon and then the fun can begin!
Simon Abeid
Kettle Falls, WA
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Also a big thank you to Mike (Cafeinno) for letting us know about this and contacting the guy who had it.
Si
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Congratulations Simon, it looks like the old girl is in good hands.
I look forward to following the restoration process.
Cheers
Roy
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Fantastic story
I'd have to find out what stopped it that could warrant parking & running away, it might be very easy to miss in resto but would be very funny to find a wire come off coil or similar, even funnier if original "parker" comes on and tells his story, Maybe a girl involved, bike had stopped 10 times that day, she said "it's me or the bike" and she was prettier ?
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Boy, you can't make up stuff like this! What a great tale. Looking forward to the rest of the story.
Good for you Simon and the best of luck with the resto.
Ted
P.S. I have an extra gage base if you need it. (Seemed to be missing in the photos)
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Congrats Simon. :thumb: Good luck with it. Definitely pursue the title hunt too. :thumb:
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Has any one here had any luck with the Vermont registration trick or any of the online title services recently? I have heard that the loopholes have been tightened up in the last couple years.
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Thanks Caffieineo! This has been one of the most enjoyable threads posted in quite some time. :thumb:
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I keep hoping to make a "garage find" of a California that just needs a little (very little) work to be ride able.
Caffeineo, how about this: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-touring/calgary/guzzi-california-111/1202745202?enableSearchNavigat ionFlag=true (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-touring/calgary/guzzi-california-111/1202745202?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true)
Maybe not a "barn find" price, but very reasonable IMO. It has been listed since mid-summer, so he's probably willing to deal. And remember he's asking in 75-cent Canadian dollars. That raises the question of importation though...
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Has any one here had any luck with the Vermont registration trick or any of the online title services recently? I have heard that the loopholes have been tightened up in the last couple years.
You may want to have one of your sons try here. I have had great luck with the Caldwell DMV. I bought a dirt bike out of state and they were going to give me the off road tags until I told them I wanted a license plate for it. A few key strokes later and I have a license plate for my dirt bike. Not sure how that would translate to no title but, unlike most govt. offices, the Caldwell DMV has been very friendly and helpful to me. :thumb:
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Has any one here had any luck with the Vermont registration trick or any of the online title services recently? I have heard that the loopholes have been tightened up in the last couple years.
I'd say find out your state's procedure for titling an untitled vehicle first. I did that a couple years ago in NC, and was able to get a plate and registration for a barn-find bike in three days. It cost $100 more than the normal title and registration fees, which is a lot less than some of the Vermont type procedures.
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Caffeineo, how about this: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-touring/calgary/guzzi-california-111/1202745202?enableSearchNavigat ionFlag=true (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-touring/calgary/guzzi-california-111/1202745202?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true)
Maybe not a "barn find" price, but very reasonable IMO. It has been listed since mid-summer, so he's probably willing to deal. And remember he's asking in 75-cent Canadian dollars. That raises the question of importation though...
Thanks, but I'm saving my pennies for a red 1400 Eldorado but if a good deal on a Bassa or EV came up locally it would be hard to pass up. Still kicking myself for selling the Bassa. :cry:
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I'd say find out your state's procedure for titling an untitled vehicle first. I did that a couple years ago in NC, and was able to get a plate and registration for a barn-find bike in three days. It cost $100 more than the normal title and registration fees, which is a lot less than some of the Vermont type procedures.
This one charges $150 + sales and use taxes, not that bad IMO.
http://www.motorecyclenow.com/title-service.html
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Some how the treasure hunt starts now. A WA resident buys a bike from a seller in ID. Abandoned vehicle in ID. I listed DMV in ID and WA. Good luck. As suggested maybe you can circumvent the process by going the "Vermont" route. A suggestion....obtai ning a bill of sale and limited power of attorney from the seller to you for the abandoned vehicle on his property.
Washington State Department of Licensing. 360.902.3770
http://www.dmv.org/id-idaho/replacing-a-lost-title.php
http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/abandoned.html
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In Texas, one may also apply for an abandoned vehicle title, not sure how that works, but know a few folks who have done. It seemed it was not too costly either.
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Most states have an abandoned vehicle clause for titles. It may involve a surety bond and DMV titles to check & see if the vehicle is not stolen.
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Congratulations Simon! :thumb:
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That's great it went to a good home! Keep us posted on the progress!
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I bet if you got it in a truck and took it to your local DMV so they could see it, you would get a title without too much problem. Unless they call the men in white coats to get you........ :blank:
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I bet if you got it in a truck and took it to your local DMV so they could see it, you would get a title without too much problem. Unless they call the men in white coats to get you........ :blank:
That's the way to go in Virginia, and maybe other states. A medium sized city DMV office will have a couple cubicles or offices with Virginia State Police investigators in it. If you roll up in a truck with a bike you want to title, show it to those guys (might need an appointment, maybe not), tell 'em what you want to do, they will help get it done. The clerks up front don't have the training or pay level to help you with that at all.
I've done it with abandoned vehicle forms, foreign titles, bills of sale, and it's always gone easy. If you're standing there in front of them with your ID in your own licensed vehicle and letting them know that you want to make sure the old bike you want to title is legit, they are 100% on your side then.
Lannis
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I agree, with the exception that in NC, the vehicle has to be "road worthy" before you can get the title. Here's how I did my Yamaha DT100:
http://www.kawi2strokes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8317&p=82250
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The DMV in Caldwell would be the 2nd place to go. Bill of sale for an abandoned vehicle and limited power of attorney for that bike from the seller would be the first place to stop. Get it notarized too. It can be on the same form.
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Has any one here had any luck with the Vermont registration trick or any of the online title services recently?
I used Vermont to title the Triumph, 18 months ago. They required a frame number certification from a local law enforcement office, though they actually accepted a certification from my smog station. It means trucking the vehicle over there for the inspection.
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Thanks for all the ideas. I went to see the State Patrol in Colville yesterday to see about them looking at it for an abandoned or junk vehicle title. Their office is closed until Nov 8. That will give me time to check into some of these alternatives.
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Thanks for all the ideas. I went to see the State Patrol in Colville yesterday to see about them looking at it for an abandoned or junk vehicle title. Their office is closed until Nov 8. That will give me time to check into some of these alternatives.
I would do whatever it took to get a legit title. "Abandoned" or "Junk" title will haunt you down the road after dumping a bunch of money into it and wanting to sell.
Imagine a pristine V7 Sport for sale, and the add stating "Selling with Abandoned Title". Buyer beware.
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In Washington you can get a title for an untitled bike after 3 years. It is not a "salvage" title. During that time it can be registered for the road. I've done it twice with bikes and my brother has done it with a car. The 3 years starts with a WSP inspection and search through their stolen vehicle database.
With no title, DoL won't issue a title without a WSP inspection, and you can't get an inspection unless you have a complete bike. However, You can probably get them to run the frame # without an inspection.
I was building the '39 Ariel from parts and had an untitled frame. Instead of building the bike, then having it inspected, I called the WSP inspector, gave them the number over the phone and they called back and told me it was not on their list. I built it into a complete bike, WSP inspected it and now have the title.
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Thank you, Shawn. That is exactly what I needed to hear from a fellow Washingtonian that has already been through it.
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Thanks for all the ideas. I went to see the State Patrol in Colville yesterday to see about them looking at it for an abandoned or junk vehicle title. Their office is closed until Nov 8. That will give me time to check into some of these alternatives.
Small world....I lived in Colville for about 6 months working for an MLM company downtown. The most $$$ I ever made in MLM was as a salaried consultant.
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What is MLM?
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I usually drop in the Sandpoint area during the Summer. I leave my SP in Sagle. Nice area during the Summer.
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The OP pics don't show up and Simon hasn't obliged the masses with pics of his good fortune (or torment...as it were).
Could you hook a brother up with a picture of the cattle impeder?
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What is MLM?
Multi Level Marketing. Think Amway and the thousands of others. Yes I tried them. More than one and only really made $$ as an employee. :(
I forget the company's name. One of the owners was Mitch..... Located in a strip mall next to a restaurant with a nice salad bar.
Enjoyed my time there. Nice place that I would be happy to live in.
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The OP pics don't show up and Simon hasn't obliged the masses with pics of his good fortune (or torment...as it were).
Could you hook a brother up with a picture of the cattle impeder?
I just fixed the picture links and they show up now. I guess prime photos has some kind of time or bandwidth limit or???
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I'm finally able to break free for a day. Tomorrow I go to the Treasure Valley to bring back my treasure. I'll report after that.
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I'm finally able to break free for a day. Tomorrow I go to the Treasure Valley to bring back my treasure. I'll report after that.
Great news. I hope you like it and find the time to document the process of getting it back on the road. Remember to allow a little extra time to chat with Jim...... :popcorn:
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:1: on letting us know.
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marking this thread.. goodluck with it :laugh:
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Well, I made it down and back yesterday. Beautiful day for a road trip. 18 1/2 hours and 999 miles total. Jim, the guy who had it, is quite a character. He has a great light fixture on his garage made out of the front 1/2 of a Sachs moped. The v7 is as bad as it looks in the pictures, but the important parts are, surprisingly, mostly there. I have a lot of the minor parts that are missing in my loop frame and Tonti frame parts stashes. Southern Idaho is very dry, so there isn't too much rust. The fenders and tool boxes are in very good shape with only 2 minor dents. The wheels are really nice. The tank definitely needs some work. I pulled the spark plugs and they look really good and smelled like an engine should. There are no broken fins on the cylinder heads. The tranny and final drive have oil in them. The headlight, seat and pan are total junk. The rear wheel is locked up. I suspect the final drive is bad and is why the guy abandoned it. The bores are not magnetic so are probably the chrome ones. I soaked the whole thing down with Move It and squirted quite a bit of Marvel Mystery Oil into the cylinders. I cleaned out a bunch of wasp nests, weeds, sand etc, from it's long lean against the fence. It was slowly sinking back into the earth. The tires held air! The frame numbers and engine number match. The prefix is VK. I am holding off on going very far with disassembly until I find out if the state patrol wants me to bring it in as is, first. I will pull off the rear wheel first to try to see why it won't roll. My wife went to California for a week to visit grandkids, and when she gets back, there will be a camera again. Si
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Forgot to mention: the under seat light and switch are still intact!
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That is worth some money.
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I will pull off the rear wheel first to try to see why it won't roll. My wife went to California for a week to visit grandkids, and when she gets back, there will be a camera again. Si
Could be a "grenaded" u-joint. That locks them up pretty solid. Or brake shoes stuck onto the drum. :popcorn:
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Y'ep. :1:
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Got the rear wheel to turn. The brakes were frozen on. The Move It is loosening a bunch of stuff already. I keep squirting and lightly tapping with a dead blow hammer and things are starting to wake up. I see we have another junk v7 sport on the forum as well. How cool is that? Hopefully this week I can get some info from the state regarding the title.
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Those tool boxes are worth what you paid for the bike. Willing to bet the inside of the engine looks new.
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The handlebars and gas tank are worth it too. :thumb: Hinged fender, underseat courtesy light.
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I got my paperwork from the nice lady at the auditor's office and an appointment with the WSP for November 30th to inspect the bike. They only come up here to the hinterlands twice a month. The bike needs to be as assembled and complete as possible for the inspection. If I understand it correctly, I then should be able to get a "provisional title" that would turn into a normal title in 3 years. In the meantime, it can be registered and ridden. The lady at the office ran the numbers and they all came up clean, so she thought the WSP appointment will be pretty routine. I'll let you know how that all turns out. In the meantime, I keep spraying Move It on it, and things are loosening up.
Si
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Nice :thumb:
Tom
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I spent an hour or so out in the shop before supper. All the brakes are now freed up and the levers feel normal. The clutch disengages and feels good and the throttle cables and slides have even freed up. It was so encouraging, I got the timing plug off and stuck a screwdriver in the hole for the biggest test of all. The engine turned over and felt good. It is tempting to clean the carb bowls and try to start it, but I don't know if that would be wise or not. Probably better to not chance running the chrome liners through the oil system.
One of the tool boxes doesn't have a lock and just flops open. The other has a lock. Of course there are no keys. I really would like to see what is inside. Does any one have a tip on how to get it open without wrecking it?
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I spent an hour or so out in the shop before supper. All the brakes are now freed up and the levers feel normal. The clutch disengages and feels good and the throttle cables and slides have even freed up. It was so encouraging, I got the timing plug off and stuck a screwdriver in the hole for the biggest test of all. The engine turned over and felt good. It is tempting to clean the carb bowls and try to start it, but I don't know if that would be wise or not. Probably better to not chance running the chrome liners through the oil system.
One of the tool boxes doesn't have a lock and just flops open. The other has a lock. Of course there are no keys. I really would like to see what is inside. Does any one have a tip on how to get it open without wrecking it?
IMO, it would not be wise to start it. The chance of damaging something is good and what will it really accomplish.
For the toolbox, you might be able drive the hinge pin out and remove the lid.
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I finally tracked down the penetrating oil you were referring to. It's called Lloyd's Moovit, and it is indeed made in Canada. Strange that I've never heard of it before.
Thanks for the tip!
Shaun
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Good to hear that DMV in WA will give you a conditional title. Kind of like a title with a surety bond. If it turns out to have a bad history then you forfeit the bike but with them running the VIN and getting a "go". You should be okay. :thumb:
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I spent an hour or so out in the shop before supper. All the brakes are now freed up and the levers feel normal. The clutch disengages and feels good and the throttle cables and slides have even freed up. It was so encouraging, I got the timing plug off and stuck a screwdriver in the hole for the biggest test of all. The engine turned over and felt good. It is tempting to clean the carb bowls and try to start it, but I don't know if that would be wise or not. Probably better to not chance running the chrome liners through the oil system.
One of the tool boxes doesn't have a lock and just flops open. The other has a lock. Of course there are no keys. I really would like to see what is inside. Does any one have a tip on how to get it open without wrecking it?
For all the years it spent out in the weather, below 0 winters, 100+ summers, rain, snow and you are managing to get things moving. :thumb: They just don't build things like they used to. :bow:
Really happy to hear you are making good progress. Good luck and thanks for the updates.
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This is great news! BTW Carlo just got some V7 sport cylinders nicasiled someplace in the mid-west.
I spent an hour or so out in the shop before supper. All the brakes are now freed up and the levers feel normal. The clutch disengages and feels good and the throttle cables and slides have even freed up. It was so encouraging, I got the timing plug off and stuck a screwdriver in the hole for the biggest test of all. The engine turned over and felt good. It is tempting to clean the carb bowls and try to start it, but I don't know if that would be wise or not. Probably better to not chance running the chrome liners through the oil system.
One of the tool boxes doesn't have a lock and just flops open. The other has a lock. Of course there are no keys. I really would like to see what is inside. Does any one have a tip on how to get it open without wrecking it?
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Well, as Charlie said, there's really no point in starting it. I'm sure it would run.. but there's nothing good that would come from it. :smiley:
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Of course there are no keys. I really would like to see what is inside. ME TOO Does any one have a tip on how to get it open without wrecking it?
can you drive out the hinge pin?
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For the toolbox, you might be able drive the hinge pin out and remove the lid.
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I was able to get the hinge pin out. Thanks for the suggestion. Inside I found a little bit of sand and a rusty nut and washer. At least the mystery is solved. The lock is pretty trick. Does anybody know if it interchanges with any other locks? Those tool boxes are in really great shape. Nice and straight. I'm definitely not going to try to start it. I'm really anxious to start disassembly, but have to wait until the state patrol does their thing.
I guess I have been spelling Moovit wrong the whole time. I never really paid that much attention to the label. About 12 or so years ago I was coming into New Denver BC from Kaslo on my t3. Just as I was entering the downhill 25km curves, my front tire instantly deflated and I got launched. I was able to push it down the hill into town, and a friendly PetroCan station attendant let me disassemble the bike inside the shop, so I could fix it. He lent me a can of Moovit to take things apart and I was instantly hooked. I bought a couple cans and have been smuggling it across the border ever since. We legalized pot a couple years ago. Maybe we can legalize Moovit! I don't know what is so magical about it, but it sure works good.
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I was able to get the hinge pin out. Thanks for the suggestion. Inside I found a little bit of sand and a rusty nut and washer. At least the mystery is solved. The lock is pretty trick. Does anybody know if it interchanges with any other locks? Those tool boxes are in really great shape. Nice and straight. I'm definitely not going to try to start it. I'm really anxious to start disassembly, but have to wait until the state patrol does their thing.
I guess I have been spelling Moovit wrong the whole time. I never really paid that much attention to the label. About 12 or so years ago I was coming into New Denver BC from Kaslo on my t3. Just as I was entering the downhill 25km curves, my front tire instantly deflated and I got launched. I was able to push it down the hill into town, and a friendly PetroCan station attendant let me disassemble the bike inside the shop, so I could fix it. He lent me a can of Moovit to take things apart and I was instantly hooked. I bought a couple cans and have been smuggling it across the border ever since. We legalized pot a couple years ago. Maybe we can legalize Moovit! I don't know what is so magical about it, but it sure works good.
I don't know if the locks are the same as those on a Loop, but there is some information on Greg Bender's site relating to those. Rebuilding info:
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_loopframe_tool_box_lock_rebuild.html
Suitable replacements (I have used these):
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_loopframe_tool_box_lock_replacement.html
Thanks for the additional information on Moovit -- I'll definitely be picking some up!
Cheers,
Shaun
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I don't know if the locks are the same as those on a Loop, but there is some information on Greg Bender's site relating to those.
Yes, same Neiman locks as the Ambassador and Eldorado. And IIRC, the seat lock for a BMW /5 /6 /7? is very similar but has a different "latching arm" on it.
(http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/DiagramsMid/B0001405.png?v=07012015)
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Thanks for all the info from all of you. When I purchased my Eldo, the guy gave me enough boxes of extra parts to fill up the back of my RAV 4, with the seats folded flat, to the ceiling. I have been sorting through all these parts and organizing them. Yesterday in the bottom of one box, I found a little baggie with 2 of the original locks for the tool boxes and a set of keys!
Si
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That's pretty amazing. :grin:
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You are obviously meant to have that bike!
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I agree that trying to start it is a bad move at this point....especially until you figure out why the original owner abandoned it. You have all winter to fiddle with it. Let the anticipation build.
....now if I could only learn to take my own advice!
Good luck and can we get some more :gotpics:
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Simon congrats cool story
I obtained my Suzuki t-500 as a bike no title did the state patrol thing.
got the provisional title.
really pretty easy and if need be can be sold with that provisional title.
I am helping Simon finance it haha back on a Guzzi soon
dang like a revolving door of motorcycles in my house
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Left index in left ear and right index finger in right ear......lah...lah. ...lah....lah.... I don't want to hear about a Titan T500 café for sale.....you have pix??? :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Please post more pics, your first ones don't work.
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I went to see the WSP today with my treasure. The officer was a very nice, helpful guy. He enjoyed the story as to how I got it. He thought it looked pretty good compared to a lot of the old car hulks he sees that people want to restore. According to him, it is a 1974, even though it was built June of 1973. He had quite a lot of info about v7 sports on his computer. My numbers checked out OK. A half hour later and I was on my way to the courthouse with all the paperwork. A half hour and $246.75 later, I had a registered and taxed 1974, v7 sport with a collector plate on it's way. This included sales tax on $500, the collector plate, the WSP inspection, and all the other little fees. On Dec 1, 2019, I can get the normal title. In the mean time, I can use it and or sell it. All in all, a fairly pleasant experience and not very expensive. It wasn't nearly as daunting as it first seemed like it might be - at least not in Washington. The most important thing was to have a bill of sale and the "title in doubt" paperwork from the auditor's office. He did say that if the numbers had shown that it was stolen, they would have impounded it.
Now the tear down can begin. First though, I will figure out how to post pictures. Thanks for all the help and encouragement from you all.
Si
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Congrats!! :thumb: :popcorn:
Tom
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:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Great news about the title and the tool box lock. It's all coming together - there will be some great before-after pics eventually.
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I saw this bike over the weekend.
Looks better in person than in the pictures.
Good news on the bike I have done a few bikes thru the state patrol
it has always been a nice experience .
Si you can post pic from your PC by using the "add image to post " when you reply
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Really happy to hear it all went well getting the bike registered. :thumb: Now the fun (???) begins. :bow:
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This is my first attempt ever at trying to send pictures. Hope it works ok. Here is the "fence post" in my shop as I took it to the state patrol for inspection. After this, I am going to start teardown. As you can see, it is very shabby, but mostly there. I put the funky old t3 mufflers on it, so it would look "complete" for inspection. I don't know why that matters to the wsp, but I am told that it does. It looks a lot better in the shop than it did as a yard decoration.
Si
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The WSP doesn't want you running the bike w/o mufflers. :grin:
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This should make you feel good about rescuing that 'ol girl...
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=192041164439&globalID=EBAY-US
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Congratulations Simon. Looks great in a project sort of way. That should keep you busy this winter. :thumb:
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that bike would be extra cool if you do all the work to get it into a good running bike but kept it "as is" in the cosmetics.. new bike inside, rat bike exterior.. name it the "Fence Post.. "
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Si you can post pic from your PC by using the "add image to post " when you reply
Some of us, preferring to have the Image posted rather than a thumbnail, still use Image hosting sites as the intermediary.
It's a slightly more time consuming route but worth it in my opinion to get a nice image posted without the viewer having to enlarge it. I'm using Flickr for this now. (and sadly miss the now extinct form of Imageshack)
I find it useful to resize my pics before uploading to the image hosting site even if it can be done at the site. I use Irfanview for this (and as my computers default picture viewer) 640x480 seems to be the size that fits posts the best.
(edit) For example;
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5813/31364009285_d3385dfabe_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PMwKfM)
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Actually, that has crossed my mind. The road I live on doesn't lend itself to immaculate paint jobs and I was thinking today how hard it would be to really do it up and then try to keep it nice. I kind of like the shot gun pellet look on the tank. It seems kind of sacriligeous to leave such a beautiful machine all funky looking, though. I have another project, a BSA Rocket3, "Gypsy Woman" that my uncle put a ridiculous psychedelic paint job on in 1970. That is definitely staying that way. Unlike v7 sports, 1969 R3s never won any beauty contests. When I got the collector vehicle plate, yesterday, I asked the lady if I could get a vanity plate that said "f post". In Washington, you can get a collector plate or a vanity plate, but you can't have it both ways. I'd rather have a collector plate and not have to buy tabs every year. I'm going to start with the mechanicals. By the time I get to the cosmetics, I might not have enough money left to dress it up anyway!
that bike would be extra cool if you do all the work to get it into a good running bike but kept it "as is" in the cosmetics.. new bike inside, rat bike exterior.. name it the "Fence Post.. "
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Some of us, preferring to have the Image posted rather than a thumbnail, still use Image hosting sites as the intermediary.
It's a slightly more time consuming route but worth it in my opinion to get a nice image posted without the viewer having to enlarge it. I'm using Flickr for this now. (and sadly miss the now extinct form of Imageshack)
I find it useful to resize my pics before uploading to the image hosting site even if it can be done at the site. I use Irfanview for this (and as my computers default picture viewer) 640x480 seems to be the size that fits posts the best.
(edit) For example;
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5813/31364009285_d3385dfabe_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PMwKfM)
I know Si and his statement above " I will figure out how to post pictures" lent me to offer up the easiest way to upload a pic.
Si obviously figured it out. by getting a cloud storage solution.
so cool thanks for the suggestion.
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It all depends on your taste and sense of humor. Leave it as is (de-rust it and with a clear coat or the like to protect it) and make it run like a scalded monkey, or make it look factory fresh, or make it your own colored bike.
My Eldo and Ambo, I was toying with changing from the stock black and white paint, couldn't do it when I repainted them. Had to leave them stock as I bought them. If I find another one that I can afford in bad paint, then I'll paint it how I want.
Good luck with your new bike!!!
Tom
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Actually, that has crossed my mind. The road I live on doesn't lend itself to immaculate paint jobs and I was thinking today how hard it would be to really do it up and then try to keep it nice. I kind of like the shot gun pellet look on the tank. It seems kind of sacriligeous to leave such a beautiful machine all funky looking, though. I have another project, a BSA Rocket3, "Gypsy Woman" that my uncle put a ridiculous psychedelic paint job on in 1970. That is definitely staying that way. Unlike v7 sports, 1969 R3s never won any beauty contests. When I got the collector vehicle plate, yesterday, I asked the lady if I could get a vanity plate that said "f post". In Washington, you can get a collector plate or a vanity plate, but you can't have it both ways. I'd rather have a collector plate and not have to buy tabs every year. I'm going to start with the mechanicals. By the time I get to the cosmetics, I might not have enough money left to dress it up anyway!
:1: & many more
Good home for bike, cosmetics last, not that many of us, ditto paying for plate, just paint "fence post" anywhere, or even better, spend ages painting a real fence post over the old petina.
R3 special too, you've got good pair from era, show us paint job please
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I have another project, a BSA Rocket3, "Gypsy Woman" that my uncle put a ridiculous psychedelic paint job on in 1970. That is definitely staying that way. Unlike v7 sports, 1969 R3s never won any beauty contests.
Egads my dear fellow! You obviously should not own the Rocket 3. Give it to me!
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Kept as is, and running, it'll become legendary like the rusted T3 overgrown in the bushes in California
Restored, it'll be like all the other $20k v7 sports...
Just me, though, I've never had a perfect restor...
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Get it running into riding condition then spray clear over the whole bike. Great story. :grin:
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Screw that. Just take some pictures for posterity then tear it down and give it the full monty.
It deserves that.
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"I kind of like the shot gun pellet look on the tank."
Screw that. Just take some pictures for posterity then tear it down and give it the full monty.
It deserves that.
I'm afraid that you've been over ruled. :shocked: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:............ :grin:
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It all depends on your taste and sense of humor. Leave it as is (de-rust it and with a clear coat or the like to protect it) and make it run like a scalded monkey, or make it look factory fresh, or make it your own colored bike.
Tom
"Screw that. Just take some pictures for posterity then tear it down and give it the full monty." Sorry.....you can't have an opinion on this. :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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that bike would be extra cool if you do all the work to get it into a good running bike but kept it "as is" in the cosmetics.. new bike inside, rat bike exterior.. name it the "Fence Post.. "
"Screw that. Just take some pictures for posterity then tear it down and give it the full monty." Seems we agree but our opinion is not allowed. :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Kept as is, and running, it'll become legendary like the rusted T3 overgrown in the bushes in California
Restored, it'll be like all the other $20k v7 sports...
Just me, though, I've never had a perfect restor...
:1: Your bike Siabeid. Do what you want. :thumb:
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I agree with the last comment. Your bike, your rules.
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Overruled by a bunch of Toms. I hate when that happens!
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I started tear down yesterday. In every little crevice or hole I find more bug carcasses or sand. As funky as it is, I am pleasantly surprised that the general condition is not too bad. I got a message yesterday that MI has 15% off on parts through Jan. Maybe I will be able to afford a paint job after all! I am hoping to get it up and running for $5000 - $6000. As a custom home builder, though, I know how fragile budgetary hopes can be sometimes. I'm anxious to get into the engine and trans. All the running gear has oil in it and it looks pretty clean considering the way it has been "stored". I haven't found any chunks of metal and the magnets have been coming up clean. Dropping the pan should tell me a lot. I really hope to figure out why the guy just abandoned it. Probably something stupid, like electrical. It is a fun investigation.
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Just my guess Si, but I'd bet there was a woman involved somehow.
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Just my guess Si, but I'd bet there was a woman involved somehow.
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From my experience, a couple of common reasons are clutch and u-joint. Neither is really an issue of you are going to go through the bike anyway. Fingers crossed for a simple fix!
Cheers,
Shaun
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I really hope to figure out why the guy just abandoned it. Probably something stupid, like electrical. It is a fun investigation.
Fun detective work. Bad capaciter(s), points closed down?
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Overruled by a bunch of Toms. I hate when that happens!
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Siabeid......said that he may do the "full Monty". :embarrassed: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Screw that. Just take some pictures for posterity then tear it down and give it the full monty.
It deserves that.
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Years ago at the Wisconsin rally I saw a first gen. LeMans 850 that stopped me in my tracks. Flat black rattle can sprayed on everything,straight pipes. I could not fathom the thought process that could do that to the 2nd most collectible Guzzi twin...just because you can...!!!!!!