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Congratulations to the Cubs and Indians :thumb: Should be a good series .
Dusty
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I can finally finish my tattoo,
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the 1 in 201_ might be optimistic..
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Wow, what a great game... !
Congratulations Cubs...! and Indians... !
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https://youtu.be/J2nirHqWIes (https://youtu.be/J2nirHqWIes)
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Go Cubs!! Theo Epstein is the best GM in baseball. Wrigley Field is, along with Fenway, one of the most iconic sports stadiums in America. Great to see!
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I'm a Chicagoan. My 93-year-old dad phoned me at the final out, squealing in delight. He's never done that before -- not in the years I've known him.
the 1 in 201_ might be optimistic..
The comma may be optimistic, but I have faith that this is the year.
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Go Indians!!!
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I'm a Chicagoan. My 93-year-old dad phoned me at the final out, squealing in delight. He's never done that before -- not in the years I've known him.
The comma may be optimistic, but I have faith that this is the year.
That's the best. So glad your dad got that joy.
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108 years since the last series win..... and 108 stitches in Mr Spaulding's ball.
There are lots of superstition with that magic number.
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Lifelong Indians fan, and of course I hope they win but in some way I wish they weren't playing against the Cubs, as I'd like them to win too......but, Go Tribe!
https://youtu.be/GM-IEMlJyak
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I remember Mike Royko, great Chicago columnist RIP, writing a piece called "Moms, don't let your sons grow up to be Cubs fans." :grin:
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No Global Warming if 'Hell is Freezing Over' a must if the Cubs are in it.
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As a traditional baseball fan , I find myself rooting for both teams . The other traditional fans will get that concept , and there isn't really a good way to explain it . Of course , any time the Yankees or Cardinals don't make the series is a reason to celebrate :laugh:
Dusty
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As a traditional baseball fan , I find myself rooting for both teams . The other traditional fans will get that concept , and there isn't really a good way to explain it . Of course , any time the Yankees or Cardinals don't make the series is a reason to celebrate :laugh:
Dusty
Hey, no bashing the Cardinals!
Besides, the National League is abandoning baseball and joining the AL in some funny game where not everybody plays the full requirement. Is it called rounders, or something like that? All I know is that the pitcher now just plays between 1 1/2 and 3 innings, and never even shows up at bat - and some other guy is a permanent pinch-hitter.
Baseball is dead to me. :cry:
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Hey, no bashing the Cardinals!
Besides, the National League is abandoning baseball and joining the AL in some funny game where not everybody plays the full requirement. Is it called rounders, or something like that? All I know is that the pitcher now just plays between 1 1/2 and 3 innings, and never even shows up at bat - and some other guy is a permanent pinch-hitter.
Baseball is dead to me. :cry:
That does happen occasionally ... wait , aren't you Canadian , kind of like me questioning the state of hockey :laugh:
Dusty
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That does happen occasionally ... wait , aren't you Canadian , kind of like me questioning the state of hockey :laugh:
Dusty
I was born in Milwaukee and raised in St Louis till I was 12. I saw Stan Musial's last game, shook hands with Bob Gibson when he visited my Little League team, and had a Lou Brock jersey (to go with my Red Berenson STL Blues jersey, obligatory hockey content). :tongue:
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As a traditional baseball fan , I find myself rooting for both teams . The other traditional fans will get that concept , and there isn't really a good way to explain it . Of course , any time the Yankees or Cardinals don't make the series is a reason to celebrate :laugh:
Dusty
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whoa whoa whoa.........no talking down the Cards. :whip2:
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8th inning:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+sloopy&view=detail&mid=9502C8CD6766839E3FCE9502C8CD6766839E3FCE&FORM=VIRE
Yeah!
Go Tribe!
....and congrats to the other guys too!
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I don't really like baseball but I am rooting for the Cubs to lose. That is way to good a streak to break now. 150 years is a good round number, make it last until then.
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I'm a Chicagoan. My 93-year-old dad phoned me at the final out, squealing in delight. He's never done that before -- not in the years I've known him.
The comma may be optimistic, but I have faith that this is the year.
:thumb: Awesome!
Yeah, I'll bet Chicago will be rockin' during the series!
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As a traditional baseball fan , I find myself rooting for both teams . The other traditional fans will get that concept , and there isn't really a good way to explain it . Of course , any time the Yankees or Cardinals don't make the series is a reason to celebrate :laugh:
This.
Two young scrappy clubs. Two classy old salt managers who love the game and treat it like a chess match. 178 combined years of pent up championship lust....with the exception of Lackey, no megalomaniacal steroid drenched a-holes that you just don't want to see succeed. This is a great matchup. Let's hope the play matches the line card.
I'm a Red Sox fan who lived the last quarter century in Chicago, taking in 10 games or so a year. I went through what Testarossa experienced with my Pop in 2004, heard stories I'd never heard about his youth, as he told them through tears. Chicago will all but implode if they pull it off. It shouldn't be easy for them to do. Really no clear favorite in the series. Just awesome, if you're a sports fan.
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Kidsmoke gets it , baseball as it is meant to be .
Dusty
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I remember Mike Royko, great Chicago columnist RIP, writing a piece called "Moms, don't let your sons grow up to be Cubs fans." :grin:
Forgot all about Mike Royko. Loved reading his column. GO CUBS!
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The news this morning said that the average world series ticket price in Chicago is just north of $3,800. Standing room only is $700. The economy can't be doing too bad. Don't even want to guess what a beer and hotdog will cost you.
GliderJohn
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Mike Royko was my hero. He's why I became editor of my high school paper and went on to a career in journalism. Here's why:
October 5, 1993
Three Ex-Cubs Assure Spurning of Atlanta
The experts have spoken. The Atlanta Braves are the best of the playoff teams. The bookies have made them the favorites to get to the World Series and win it. Some sports pundits already talk of them as one of the great teams of all time.
The experts just never learn.
As always, they ignore that strange, mysterious, and almost-always fatal malady known as the Ex-Cubs Factor.
Regular readers of this column know about the Ex-Cubs Factor. But bear with me as I explain it to newcomers.
Twelve years ago, a Chicago sports nut named Ron Berler stumbled across an amazing statistic.
Since 1946, 13 teams had entered the World Series with three or more ex-Cubs on their roster.
Twelve of these 13 teams lost.
Berler theorized that it was a virus. Three or more ex-Cubs could infect an entire team with the will to lose, no matter how skillful that team might appear.
When Berler revealed his findings, the sports experts sneered and scoffed. Stupid and meaningless, they snickered. No scientific basis, they hooted.
Then came 1990, and they were still sneering, scoffing, and making their mindless predictions.
That was the year about 99 percent of the experts declared that the Oakland A's could not possibly lose the World Series.
Even before the games began, they hailed the A's as one of the greatest teams—maybe the greatest—in the history of the game.
As the Washington Post's resident baseball genius put it: "Let's make this short and sweet. The baseball season is over. Nobody's going to beat the Oakland A's."
As Ben Bentley, the Chicago sports savant, said: "Could the Oakland Athletics be the greatest in baseball history?"
Yes, cried the experts: the greatest, a dynasty, a team of immortals. They could win while yawning.
But out there were two lonely voices: Berler and this writer.
We warned of the Ex-Cubs Factor. We pointed out that the A's had foolishly defied the terrible virus by signing a third ex-Cub. And before that World Series began, Berler publicly stated: "As good as they are, they will lose. And they can blame their own arrogance for ignoring history."
So what happened? Not only did the A's lose, it was world-class humiliation. Four straight defeats. One of sports' all-time flopperoos.
That made it 13 out of 14 teams with three or more ex-Cubs to collapse in the World Series since World War II.
The A's haven't been the same since. Once it struck, the ex-Cub virus burrowed into the fiber of the franchise. In only three years they have gone from a dynasty to limping mediocrity. Sources say their hot dogs don't even taste as good as they once did.
Have the experts learned anything? Of course not. As the late Mayor Richard J. Daley once said: "Duh experts—what do dey know?"
The sports experts are now hailing the Atlanta Braves as the super-team of this era.
On Sunday, Dave Kindred, columnist for the Sporting News, wrote: ". . . Atlanta has become baseball's best team since the Yankees of Mickey Mantle and Yogi Berra . . . the NL's best team since the Brooklyn Dodgers of Duke Snider, Gil Hodges, and Pee Wee Reese."
He may be right. They have thunderous hitters, overwhelming pitchers, and a seamless defense.
But they also have the dreaded virus. Of the four teams in the playoffs, only the Braves are afflicted by the Ex-Cubs Factor. Only the Braves have three former Cubs.
They are Greg Maddux, the superb pitcher, Damon Berryhill, the reliable catcher, and . . .
Even a bleacher creature would be hard-pressed to name the third ex-Cub.
But Berler, the virus discoverer, knows. "I have it all in my computer," he says.
A relief pitcher named Jay Howell. Although he has been in the major leagues for 14 years, he's not a big name, not a big star, no flashy stats. A solid journeyman. Probably good to his family, a nice neighbor, a patriot; and he doesn't kick little dogs.
But he is one of the three skeletons in the Atlanta closet. He has a sordid past.
For a brief time in 1981, when he was a mere lad, he was a Cub. He pitched in only 10 games, a total of 22 innings, and wasn't very good.
But as Berler says: "That is all it takes. He is a genuine, bona fide, star-crossed ex-Cub, the poor guy. He is a carrier. It always comes back to your roots. Once a Cub, always a Cub."
Berler, who is a free-lance writer and teacher, recently interviewed Maddux, who chose to become an Atlanta Brave multimillionaire, rather than a Chicago Cubs multimillionaire, because he wanted to play on a winning team.
"I told him: 'You think you're leaving a loser? Ha! You are a loser. And you're going to infect your 24 teammates.'"
He explained the Ex-Cubs Factor to Maddux. And the star pitcher responded by shouting: "I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it!"
So if the Braves defeat the Phillies and make it to the World Series, bet on the Braves at your own peril.
But this puts a Chicagoan such as myself—a devout Cubs fan—in a difficult position.
Those who are true fans of the White Sox or Cubs loathe the other team. This crosstown rivalry takes precedent over city pride. So if the Sox play the Braves, I must root for the Braves. It is the only decent thing a Cubs fan can do. Sox fans, being dedicated haters, will understand.
It will be the first time I will be cheering for a virus.
[Editors' note: The Philadelphia Phillies and the virus beat the Braves, four games to two, in the playoffs.]
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Go Tribe! :popcorn:
ZZ
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Go Tribe! :popcorn:
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Cleveland has a rich baseball history . This may be the friendliest and most civil WS since the
Royals/Cardinals series in 1985 .
Dusty
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C'mon Cubbies, win one for Royko. :thumb: :smiley:
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Forgot all about Mike Royko. Loved reading his column. GO CUBS!
great columnist. my local paper carried him until he passed.
then the paper went into the dumper when the editor retired.
No doubt Mike and Studs Terkel are cheering the Cubs from above with tall scotchs and strong cigars.
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how about another.... younger days (+ Nelson Algren)
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Here we go , I sincerely hope this is one for the ages :thumb:
Dusty
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Kubler superhuman for 6 innings.
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Kubler superhuman for 6 innings.
Yes , but maybe all for naught .
Dusty
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Yes , but maybe all for naught
Not. :sad:
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Not. :sad:
Condolences Seth , but our Cleveland fans are happy .
Dusty
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had one of my drivers in my office yesterday.
"You can pencil in Lester for two wins, no question. Cleveland may eek out 1 win"
I shook my head and told him there's no such thing as a sure thing and Cleveland mowed through the playoffs on their way to this series. Lester may end up looking like Kershaw did in game 6. He's an old Vet pitching on a cold night against an amped team and on the road....
Got the late night text, blaming me for the Cubs demise. All that confidence, lost.
Buck up Cubs Fans. This series will go the distance and come down to some punk, unconscious on adrenaline, making some epic play on pure reflex or strength....it's everything we watch baseball for. Only sure thing is he'll have a "C" on his jersey. Can't believe I'm gonna say this, but A-Rod was right...when's the last time Baseball was the most compelling thing happening in October, with everything else clearly a B attraction.
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Lester's refusal to throw the pick-off, or even to come off the mound on defense, is a liability.
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Lester's refusal to throw the pick-off, or even to come off the mound on defense, is a liability.
Exactly, what is up with that?
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Lester will yell at the home plate ump and have little temper tantrums , but won't deal with his own glaring weakness . Baseball players tend to be very superstitious , some would even be classified as borderline ... well , strange . Remember John Wetteland , wore the same cap all year , never washed, the damn thing got really disgusting . Or how about players who step on the base lines entering the field , and hop over them when leaving :shocked:
Dusty
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I don't normally watch ballgames, but watched innnings six through nine last night.
It was pretty enjoyable. Cubbies missed a huge opportunity when they had the bases loaded with no outs on the board.
Looking forward to watching a game at Wrigley. Should be an awesome crowd!
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Tonights game has been moved up 1 hour due to weather. 7:08 EST, or something like that. They're trying to get it in between fronts.
Just in case people that want to know didn't get the memo. :grin:
John Henry
GO TRIBE!
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Going with the Tribe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mi3KNEpbA4
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4-0 Cubs, in the 5th.
Go Cubs!
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Damn ..... come on, Tribe!
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Going into the 6th and Cub's Arietta has not allowed any hits.
5-0 Cubs.
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That went a lot better.
Next stop, Wrigley Field.
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We are witnessing a piece of future Americana tonight , a WS game in Wrigley Field :thumb:
Dusty
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My pup, me, and a couple of blonds are rooting for the Tribe but I think Tomlin has a ways to go. Hendricks was 9-2 with a 1.32 E.R.A. at Wrigley Field this year.
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My pup, me, and a couple of blonds are rooting for the Tribe but I think Tomlin has a ways to go. Hendricks was 9-2 with a 1.32 E.R.A. at Wrigley Field this year.
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Kipnis just took a 90 MPH fastball to the rib cage and didn't even flinch :shocked: :bow:
Dusty
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Go Tribe!
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Yeah! Go Tribe!!!!
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Win!
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This is probably going to be a 7 game series , tonight's game was certainly a nail biter . Cleveland sure has some breaking ball pitchers , hard to beat in a series situation .
Dusty
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I'll have to find some more blonds for tomorrow's game! Woot Woot!
Obligatory MG content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOWJwa6-IKI
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Coach Terry Francona (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Francona), son of Tito Francona (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito_Francona), is from my home town. Lots of my homie Pirate fans rooting for the Tribe these last couple days. BTW, brother Rick Francona (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Francona) is CNN middle east correspondent and former CIA spook. Still, I can't help rooting for the Cubbies.
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GREAT game. tension, tactics, total turnaround never more than a single pitch away. Great defense, clutch hitting, weather played role at times....actually lived up to the hype. Although if I were a Cubs fan and had just forked over a grand to sit on a stool.....I may have been a bit glum on the El ride home last night.
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That was baseball at it's best. As tension filled as a game can get. In a National League park where they play real baseball with the pitchers having to face each other. That is what makes Arrietta (sp) so great. he loves to hit. And it gives the managers an opportunity to manage. Francona took a big risk last night pulling Miller and it really payed off.
Good pitching beats good hitting, but this one is too close to tell who has the advantage. This Pirates fan is rooting for the Tribe, but I expect it will be tense to the end.
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I agree Fuzzy . Casual fans don't understand how a 1 to 0 game can be exciting , but to us traditional fans last night's game was a beauty .
Lackey looks good so far , if Kluber is on , we may have another pitcher's dual tonight :thumb:
Dusty
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Just turned it on. Go Cubs!
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Wow , John Hirschbeck has been a MLB ump since 1984 .
UH OH , Lackey just committed the ultimate sin in baseball .
Dusty
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INDIANS!!!!!!!
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Just one more......
https://youtu.be/zVatBy_4GpM
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My guess is the Cubs will win tonight , and Cleveland will win the series at home Tues or Wed . Of course we won't know until the last out of the deciding game . Seems I find myself favoring the Indians slightly , maybe because of their under dog status . As some consolation to Cubs fans , their team is young and following a normal trajectory to being a dominant team . The Cubs will be back , The Indians are a small market team , and probably can't afford to keep this team together . So ...
Go Tribe :laugh:
Dusty
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My guess is the Cubs will win tonight , and Cleveland will win the series at home Tues or Wed . Of course we won't know until the last out of the deciding game . Seems I find myself favoring the Indians slightly , maybe because of their under dog status . As some consolation to Cubs fans , their team is young and following a normal trajectory to being a dominant team . The Cubs will be back , The Indians are a small market team , and probably can't afford to keep this team together . So ...
Go Tribe :laugh:
Dusty
Exactly.
This years attendance at Progressive Field ranks third from the bottom in the major leagues even though they have had a winning year. Next year should be better if they win, but if things change for the worst in terms of players moving or getting hurt they may not see this walk again to the World Series for many years.
The Cubs will be back if they don't win tonight, and I will be rooting for them provided they aren't playing against the Indians. :cool:
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This thread should die real soon. Go "Tribe". :thumb:
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I'm for either team because of their history & time since winning the Series but if the Cubs keep leaving bases loaded with no outs or the tying run on 3rd then it'll be another 108 years before they win the Series.
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I'm for either team because of their history & time since winning the Series but if the Cubs keep leaving bases loaded with no outs or the tying run on 3rd then it'll be another 108 years before they win the Series.
The Cubs are a very young team , this is part of the learning process . As long as Epstein and Madden are around , they will be back .
Dusty
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Six blonds and a tub full of butter......
.....salt, and popcorn....let the game begin!
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Here we go .
Dusty
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Broncos won. Good luck Cubs.
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That was one heck of a save!
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That was one heck of a save!
The Ross to Rizzo play in foul ground ? Yeah , baseball players have amazing hand eye coordination.
Dusty
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Dusty - yes, that one. Rizzo picked it out of nowhere!
Go Tribe!
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Dusty - yes, that one. Rizzo picked it out of nowhere!
Go Tribe!
Yeah , twice :laugh:
One thing that really stands out , the National league Cubs' pitchers look completely lost while hitting , and the American league Indians' pitchers can swing the bat :shocked:
Dusty
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Damn , catchers are tough . Getting intense now !
Dusty
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Last night's game was great and I think this one is even better! This is baseball!
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Aw, shucks. There goes Chicago.
Good job Cubs!
Go Tribe!
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Last night's game was great and I think this one is even better! This is baseball!
Cubs WIN , Cubs WIN , Cubs WIN ! Yeah , great game , it is hard to beat a team three games in a row . Back to Cleveland we go :thumb:
Dusty
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Wow!
Maybe the Cubs can pull a Cavs.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :boozing: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Win Cubs. Got to love the under-bears.
Even the Texans won. Broncos at Raiders will be a love-fest.
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Cleveland would be delirious to have both the Cavs and Indians win in the same year. Might be a good boost for the city from a morale perspective!
This is one series I can't seem to get into...no real affiliation for either team...may the better team win!
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Cleveland will be rocking tonight . We will see a real managerial chess game in this one .
Dusty
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Okay, the top of the first was quite painful for the Tribe.
Moving on....
Go Tribe!
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Watch this. Cubs up three halfway thru the first inning.
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Grand slam by Russell. 7-0 Cubs.
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I wonder how much a commercial might cost during the 7th game?
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Now that was fun. :cool:
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Game 7 boys :thumb:
Dusty
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Go Tribe!
:popcorn:
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How's that for a start. Kluber in trouble already.
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Cubs blew Kluber out of the water. Didn'the bring his curve tonight. Here comes Miller.
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Not over yet , Lester is a head case .
Dusty
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Cubs!
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Indians !
Dusty
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Bottom of the 8th - you don't get better advertising opportunities than this!
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Go Tribe!
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WOW! Tied, rain delay, and moving into the 10th. A real nail biter.
John Henry
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Rain delay in top of the 10th during a tied world series 7th game? No problem!
Six beverages in the bullpen (..........although I might have to take a couple hours vakay in the morning!) :boozing:
Go Tribe!
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Holy Cow!
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Holy Cow!
Yep :laugh:
We have seen everything in this Series , someone predicted that this would be a great series :rolleyes:
Dusty
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9:06 here in Vancouver.......... Wow were all on the edge.
Kinda rooten for the cubs but at this point its an amazing game and who ever the victor........ well done :bow:
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One for the ages.
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Listening on Cubs radio, 2 outs bottom of 10th, "Cub fans you will remember where you were tonight for the rest of your life"
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Crap. Good job Cubbies!
Go Tribe...next year!
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Crap. Good job Cubbies!
Go Tribe...next year!
Yep. Congrats Cubs.
John Henry
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Congratulations to the Cubs fans :bow: You Cleveland fans , no reason to hang your heads , the Indians never gave up :bow:
Dusty
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:1: whew!
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Congratulations to the Cubs fans :bow: You Cleveland fans , no reason to hang your heads , the Indians never gave up :bow:
Dusty
I'm not even really a baseball fan, and I was on the edge of my seat! Good job both teams.
First comeback from being down 3 games to 1 in 31 years, and then to take it into an extra inning in game 7, to win the championship after 108 years, wow. Just wow. Congrats Chicago!
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/207699942/history-of-3-1-world-series-comebacks/ (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/207699942/history-of-3-1-world-series-comebacks/)
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Please bury me with my ice skates because hell just froze over!
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Yogi was right.. "It ain't over till it's over.." :smiley: The ghost of the goat is slinking away. :smiley:
Great game and series.
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what a great ending.
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What a great game. As a Buffalo Bills lifelong fan my heart goes out to The Tribe fans. We know how it feels!
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Indians will be back next year. So will the Cubs. Two fabulous young teams that can only improve.
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Many sports writers and traditional fans are calling game 7 the greatest WS game ever played .
Dusty
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Game 7 had to be the best game I've ever seen. Awesome job by both teams. I am happy for the Cubs that has to feel good winning a game like that one let alone a world series. My hat is off to both teams. :thumb: