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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: pazzmore on October 29, 2016, 09:38:21 PM
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What is the value of having an outside temperature (almost always being 10 degrees warmer than the true outside temp) display on my V7ii cluster? I just don't see the point of it. I'm a newb though, so please fill me in on what I'm missing here.
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My 2011 Norge temp gauge appears to be very accurate as long as you are moving. If one rides in possibly freezing weather it is nice to know when it hits around 32 degrees. I just like having the info. Leaving Talemina, OK three weeks ago soon after daylight I found the temp would differ as much as 13 degrees as I rode through the hills and valleys. You could definitely feel the temp differences but was cool to monitor the actual temps.
Different strokes for different folks.
GliderJohn
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The temp readout on my 2014 V7 Special is accurate. Well, it will read warm after having sat in the sun for awhile, but will quickly return to accurate ambient, once underway.
Like a clock, a thermometer is definitely not necessary, but it's a nice thing to have. Especially if you ever ride in temps near freezing. Also nice to know what the temp is when you're feeling comfy, and when you're hot or cold. Makes it easier to adjust the riding gear next time out.
Most of the bikes I've owned have never had a fuel gauge, Thermometer, Clock, or anything other than a speedo and tach. I've ridden all over the country with just a speedo and tach, and probably haven't really needed the tach.
But it is nice to have extra info, sometimes.
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I'm not sure if it's because it's useful to have (I find it so) or that the engine needs to know it so it mights as well be displayed.
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I'd trade half of the useless information (lap times for racing !!!??) on my '07 Norge cluster for a distance to empty like my Triumph Sprint ST had. They're beaut.
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I'm not sure if it's because it's useful to have (I find it so) or that the engine needs to know it so it mights as well be displayed.
The engine does indeed need to know the temperature of the air it is ingesting, the ambient temperature is actually different from the air intake temperature in most applications which is why manufacturers use separate sensors.
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The dashboard outside temperature readings on my previous '13 V7 Stone and my current '16 V7II Stone were/are both reasonably accurate, as least when compared with outdoor temperature indicators (e.g., on bank signs) that I pass along the road. The reading is high for the first few minutes after starting off with a warm engine, especially if the bike's been parked in the sun, but, after that, it's accurate enough.
The dashboard temperature indicator and its probe are not connected to the engine or ECU. The engine temperature probe IS connected to the ECU, and the ECU also takes the temperature of the incoming air stream at the throttle body.
It's the clock that I have a gripe with. It's not accurate at all, plus it has to be manually reset twice a year if you live in a DST area and want the clock to indicate the correct local time. When I used to care about that, every time I reset the clock for DST I found that it was off by anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes. C'mon, this is the 21st century, clocks can be more accurate than that. Even my home heater thermostat knows enough to set/unset itself for DST, and it's accurate within a few seconds per year. Now I don't use the motorcycle's dashboard clock at all.
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I'd trade half of the useless information (lap times for racing !!!??) on my '07 Norge cluster for a distance to empty like my Triumph Sprint ST had. They're beaut.
We're dealing with my memory here :rolleyes: but it seems I remember the Norge doing a count down to empty when there were 50 miles or so left?
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It would be better were the clock the default mode. I'm not interested in the temperature, my body tells me whether I'm warm enough, comfortable or too hot, and that's all I need to know. But I always forget to press the button before I set off, and then have to hit it while I'm riding.
If Moto Guzzi wants to give us information, how about a gear indicator instead of the temperature.
The clock's pretty accurate on my V7II. I changed the hour this morning and found the minute setting had gained three in four months.
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We're dealing with my memory here :rolleyes: but it seems I remember the Norge doing a count down to empty when there were 50 miles or so left?
It'd be embarrasing after all this time if I'm wrong, but I think what happens is, when the warning light comes on and you have 4 litres left, the odometer starts counting up from 1, to tell you how far you've done on reserve. Not quite as good but it's what you get. However I might put a container in the back and run it to the death and check.
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Quote from Huzo:
starts counting up from 1, to tell you how far you've done on reserve.
Think the above is correct.
GliderJohn