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Title: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: hagaik on November 01, 2016, 12:22:31 AM
Hi all,
I'm interested to know what is the most cost-effective and easy way to improve the braking performance of the V7II.
If someone has some experience with that - any opinion would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: pete roper on November 01, 2016, 01:04:03 AM
EBC FA244-HH I believe.
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: Sheepdog on November 01, 2016, 08:37:32 AM
Pirelli Sport Demon tires...
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: rocker59 on November 01, 2016, 08:49:27 AM

1)  EBC HH pads.
2) a Brembo "Snowflake" rotor.  (Takeoffs from Ducatis available on Ebay)
3) a Brembo radial master cylinder. (Takeoffs from Ducatis in several versions available on Ebay).


Like anything performance, you can spend a lot of money for small gains.  Start with the brake pads and see what you think. 
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: sib on November 01, 2016, 09:19:48 AM
If the stock brakes can lock up the wheel, why do you need improvement?
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: rocker59 on November 01, 2016, 09:23:55 AM
If the stock brakes can lock up the wheel, why do you need improvement?

Yes.

Improvements in modulation, feel, and reduced effort.

Lots of shitty brake setups can lock a wheel.  That's not a sign of a good braking system.
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: v65tt on November 01, 2016, 01:08:18 PM
I doubt you will see much improvement on a v7ii as the abs kicks in Long before the brakes will lock up

Last few v7ii's I have ridden have had enough brake force to make the forks feel like they are starting to twist!
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: Red Dog on November 01, 2016, 01:40:44 PM
Can you turn the ABS off on the V7II?
 I could on the C1400.

If you have some experience with riding bikes not equipped with ABS you may want to turn it off.
Personally I'm not a fan of ABS and my Victory brakes work much better with it turned off.

Find an abandoned shopping center with a big parking lot & try it.
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: rocker59 on November 01, 2016, 02:36:12 PM
I doubt you will see much improvement on a v7ii as the abs kicks in Long before the brakes will lock up


Improving braking performance has nothing to do with the ABS.

 
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: rocker59 on November 01, 2016, 02:48:05 PM
1)  EBC HH pads.
2) a Brembo "Snowflake" rotor.  (Takeoffs from Ducatis available on Ebay)
3) a Brembo radial master cylinder. (Takeoffs from Ducatis in several versions available on Ebay).


Like anything performance, you can spend a lot of money for small gains.  Start with the brake pads and see what you think.

I forgot to mention the nice 4-pad caliper that's much better than the stocker:
http://www.guzzitech.com/store/product/brembo-4-pad-caliper-lt-2/

This is the "snowflake" rotor:
http://www.guzzitech.com/store/product/brembo-snowflake-rotor-gold/

The master cylinder:
http://www.guzzitech.com/store/product/rcs-radial-frntbrkmstr/


My order of upgrade would be:
1) pads
2) rotor
3) caliper
4) master cylinder.

As you can see from the links above, you can buy them new.  You can also pick up take-offs on Ebay and maybe in the classifieds at someplace like Ducati.ms

Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: hagaik on November 01, 2016, 03:06:33 PM
Pirelli Sport Demon tires...

Already got 'em :)
thnx
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: hagaik on November 01, 2016, 03:16:42 PM
I forgot to mention the nice 4-pad caliper that's much better than the stocker:
http://www.guzzitech.com/store/product/brembo-4-pad-caliper-lt-2/

This is the "snowflake" rotor:
http://www.guzzitech.com/store/product/brembo-snowflake-rotor-gold/

The master cylinder:
http://www.guzzitech.com/store/product/rcs-radial-frntbrkmstr/


My order of upgrade would be:
1) pads
2) rotor
3) caliper
4) master cylinder.

As you can see from the links above, you can buy them new.  You can also pick up take-offs on Ebay and maybe in the classifieds at someplace like Ducati.ms

Cheers  :boozing:
EBC pads are scarce here (Israel).
My mechanic recommended getting Brembo 07BB19SA Sintered Street pads.
I will start with those tomorrow and see what happens.
Todd's site doesn't specify the caliper's model #. Any clue what that's number is? Probably can get them in Milano (going to  EICMA, yay!)
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: rocker59 on November 01, 2016, 03:33:26 PM

Those pads should be a good start.

Just refer to them as the "4-pad caliper from the Ducati 998", and I'm sure they'll know what you're talking about.

Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: Air-Cooled on November 01, 2016, 04:28:43 PM
Those pads should be a good start.

Just refer to them as the "4-pad caliper from the Ducati 998", and I'm sure they'll know what you're talking about.

"4-pad" or 4-pot?
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: rocker59 on November 01, 2016, 05:38:14 PM
4-pad.

They have one pad per pot.
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: waxi on November 02, 2016, 06:38:32 AM
Can you turn the ABS off on the V7II?
 I could on the C1400.

You can't. Only MGCT (ASR, TCS etc.) can be with the starter button.
Title: Re: Options for improving front brake performance - V7II
Post by: fossil on November 02, 2016, 06:57:33 AM
Pirelli Sport Demon tires...

Avoiding Pirelli Sport Demon tyres, chosing non-wooden tyres like e.g. Dunlop Street Smart.