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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: sdcr on November 03, 2016, 12:37:21 PM
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We've all seen machines like the Moto Guzzi 1000S, Honda GB500, BMW R90S, HondaHawk GT 650 gain a loyal, some may say, cult like following over the past 5-10 years.
Certainly, there will be other, newer models that will someday be valued for their competence, rarity or just plain fun to ride factor.
Here are a few machines that I think will soon be sought after in the very near future;
Ducati 900SS/SP (92-98)
Moto Guzzi 1200 Sport
BMW K 75S
So, throwing this out to the the collective MC wisdom here, what motorcycles do you think will become the next " cult " bikes?
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Kawasaki 750turbo, (1984_85) because it is a special bike. :boozing:
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Honda CBX 1000 (78-79)
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The early SV 650's , and possibly the first gen FZ 1 Yamaha .
Dusty
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I'm going to take the Griso over the Sport. The 1200 Sport is rarer than rare (in the U.S.) and the Griso at least has it's own Ghetto.
XR1200. It was a miss for Harley, and I understand there were build issues, but it's got a chance since it is so different from the rest of the Motor Company.
Motus MST. It's already "hey what's that?" bike.
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Moto Guzzi Le Mans I, III, IV.
Yamaha SRX 600
MuZ 660s
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I think (and hope) the CB1100 will be a cult bike.
Perhaps the Tenni Green Griso will be one too. Probably right after I sell mine. :undecided:
Mana 850 GT has a shot at it too.
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The HD Dyna T Sport , and the Kawasaki W 650 . A new bike that has a shot might be the TU 250 .
Dusty
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Yamaha RDs, especially the water-cooled. Maybe some of the other 2-strokes like the Kaw triples and the Suzuki GT series. Water Buffaloes are already becoming a cult thing.
A small but intensely dedicated group with Suzuki RE5s.
Small Honda 4s, especially the 350/400 series. The 400 had a six-speed, the first in a Honda.
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I like your picks on the 900SS and the K75S.
The little bricks are cheap, reliable, and a lot of them are getting hacked up into cafe racers (potentially making complete examples harder to find). The K75S was the only K-bike in that era to get the pure "S" designation. Although there was a K100RS.
I'm partial - but as for a culty-collectible guzzis I think the V11 Sports/Lemans might go that way, especially the Red-Framed Greenies and the "special" named models (Rosso Mandello, Tenni, Cafe Sport, etc.)
I also agree with the small 4-cylinder Hondas. And there was a Yamaha FZR400 that handled amazingly well. It's hard to find one of those that wasn't turned into a track bike. And another Honda - the GB500.
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TRX850 is already there.
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Any Moto Guzzi LeMans, the rest? Who cares? :laugh:
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The mythical half man half beast Centauro, just because they are so rare and fing awesome
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I propose the Guzzi smallblock. For most riders, it's either small or big block, not both.
The smallblock, with it's Heron head and rocker valves, has a yesteryear way of engineering, like a BMW airhead, that earns the love of it's owners.
Less is more, and happiness might be looking back, not forward.
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Yamaha RDs, especially the water-cooled. Maybe some of the other 2-strokes like the Kaw triples and the Suzuki GT series. Water Buffaloes are already becoming a cult thing.
A small but intensely dedicated group with Suzuki RE5s.
Small Honda 4s, especially the 350/400 series. The 400 had a six-speed, the first in a Honda.
The CB360 (twin) had a six speed in 1974. The first year for the CB400F was 1975.
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Yamaha XS650 - especially the early ones before they went "cruiserish"
Any Honda CX500/650. The 650 Turbo is particularly rare...
Aren't all Guzzis cult bikes, divided into sub-cults like Tontis, Loops, etc? :evil:
-- Mark
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Yamaha RZ 350 s, I think the 1984 RZ 350 was the last 2 stroke street bike imported to the USA.
Rick.
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Buell has always been somewhat of a cult bike and I suspect it will continue to be so.
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MG
Eldorado,
California II
Lario,
Red frame VII Sport
At least I hope so, I have all 4
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never count out the Suzuki 1200 Bandit
(https://g1.img-dpreview.com/34AD824BD7AD40C8865DD1ACD0259763.jpg)
this one only has 80,000 miles on it. You can see the OKla plate on the back if you're riding a Guzzi.
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Guzzi Quota
Curvy SV
Triumph Speed Triple 955cc
I've had a few "cult" bikes over the years. SR500, 550 Vision (more POS than cult), XS650 X2, GB500,
Don't really miss any (OK maybe the SR).
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I've hung on to my own "Cult-ish" bikes;
'82 1000 Katana, TT500, GS850....
Todd.
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Too many. Bikes aren't cultish just because a group likes them or they're out of production or just old.
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To my understanding, a cult bike needs to fit the following criteria: Does it have a small yet devoted following? Is it kind of odd?
I think any Guzzi falls into this category.
Any 80's rubber belted ducati ( Paso, Indiana, 750 sport, Cagiva allazurra etc.)
Honda 650 hawk, CB1, gb500
Any Morini or MZ
Any European dirtbike .
That's a few.
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never count out the Suzuki 1200 Bandit
(https://g1.img-dpreview.com/34AD824BD7AD40C8865DD1ACD0259763.jpg)
this one only has 80,000 miles on it. You can see the OKla plate on the back if you're riding a Guzzi.
The Bandit is a ridiculously great bike!
But for a future classic, the Sport 1100.
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To my understanding, a cult bike needs to fit the following criteria: Does it have a small yet devoted following? Is it kind of odd?
I think any Guzzi falls into this category.
Any 80's rubber belted ducati ( Paso, Indiana, 750 sport, Cagiva allazurra etc.)
Honda 650 hawk, CB1, gb500
I think the next Honda cult bike will be the Hornet. I also think the Kawasaki W650 is on its way to becoming one.
As far as Moto Guzzi - I agree that the entire brand is a cult, at least from the outside. I thought of the brand as just another brand, but I've owned one a couple of weeks now and discovered that no one outside of motorcycle circles have heard of them. To be fair, most of what I knew as a longtime Honda guy was "that Italian brand they got the idea for the CX bikes from" and the line from Cake in "Rock and Roll Lifestyle."
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Yamaha RZ 350 s, I think the 1984 RZ 350 was the last 2 stroke street bike imported to the USA.
Rick.
Correct Rick,
I have the '84 RZ 350 N model, full Racetech body work in Kenny Roberts trim, boat tail and all. All Speed pipe and cans, really cool little rig, rear sets, fork brace and a bunch of other mods.
This one is not mine but very similar, I'll shot a couple of photos of it when I take it out of storage for rebuilding the bottom end, I think it needs seals and I will have the entire crank assembly gone through when I get it taken down.
(http://www.cyclechaos.com/images/0/00/1984-Yamaha-RZ350-Kenny-Roberts-Yellow-0.jpg)
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I have also owned four Honda Hawk GTs that the GT gang thinks is funny when people call them Cult Bikes...
This is the one that I kept out on the West coast for a couple of years. My Daughter still rides the one that I gave here Wow, fifteen years ago...!
(http://imageshack.com/a/img850/4067/xgq7.jpg)
After having bought the Yamaha XS 750 Triple I have come to find out that there is quite a following for them as well... This one is the '77 750 D model.
(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/7817/2Ec7PE.jpg)
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TRX850 is already there.
I'd agree with you on that. It is one of the best machines ever conceived!
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The Bandit is a ridiculously great bike!
But for a future classic, the Sport 1100.
now that you mention it, I have an EV, V11 Sport and a Bandit.
All three are "cult" bikes. (perhaps because they are 15-18 years old?)
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I like your picks on the 900SS and the K75S.
The little bricks are cheap, reliable, and a lot of them are getting hacked up into cafe racers (potentially making complete examples harder to find). The K75S was the only K-bike in that era to get the pure "S" designation. Although there was a K100RS.
I'm partial - but as for a culty-collectible guzzis I think the V11 Sports/Lemans might go that way, especially the Red-Framed Greenies and the "special" named models (Rosso Mandello, Tenni, Cafe Sport, etc.)
I also agree with the small 4-cylinder Hondas. And there was a Yamaha FZR400 that handled amazingly well. It's hard to find one of those that wasn't turned into a track bike. And another Honda - the GB500.
I have a garden variety K75 with a bad transmission (my fault) that I'm considering keeping for the above reasons. I've considered parting it out, but have half a mind just to push it into a corner, throw a sheet over it, and let the passage of time work it's magic. I believe the regular K75s had a small following a while back, but interest has ebbed a bit. Who knows.
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never count out the Suzuki 1200 Bandit
(https://g1.img-dpreview.com/34AD824BD7AD40C8865DD1ACD0259763.jpg)
this one only has 80,000 miles on it. You can see the OKla plate on the back if you're riding a Guzzi.
That's a damn tidy one. I took one from Australia through Europe and it was like a big lump of Japanese rock, absolutely solid, gutsy and reliable, I really liked it what it did for me. 'Sold it five minutes after I got it home though, like a good loyal servant I appreciated it's work ethic but never "loved" it. In the future people will still want them like a steel trailer, very useful but mostly abused...
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(http://m7.i.pbase.com/g1/39/611339/2/108079197.wEWytYvW.jpg)
WEBLEY VICKERS
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That's a damn tidy one. I took one from Australia through Europe and it was like a big lump of Japanese rock, absolutely solid, gutsy and reliable, I really liked it what it did for me. 'Sold it five minutes after I got it home though, like a good loyal servant I appreciated it's work ethic but never "loved" it. In the future people will still want them like a steel trailer, very useful but mostly abused...
many abused, none killed.
I have buddy with 130k+ on his. Remember, Brock made this the first ever street legal bike to run in 7s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVFiikvDbc
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(http://m7.i.pbase.com/g1/39/611339/2/108079197.wEWytYvW.jpg)
WEBLEY VICKERS
So I had to look up Webley Vickers Jim. :laugh:
So, as a single instead of "the other brand" :wink: , is that a Suzuki 650 Savage in that?
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many abused, none killed.
I have buddy with 130k+ on his. Remember, Brock made this the first ever street legal bike to run in 7s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVFiikvDbc
Damn right, I really was looking for a Kawasaki ZXR 1100 or 1200 but got the Bandit and didn't regret it one bit.
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SRX....cuz I have one....
(http://thumb.ibb.co/nfB7Ov/20140710_191333.jpg) (http://ibb.co/nfB7Ov)
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(http://www.2040motos.com/_content/cars/images/6/165206/002.jpg)
The Honda Pacific Coast and all it's quirkiness. Kind of a mini-gold wing.
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My list:
Honda CB400F
Kawasaki 550 Zephyr (by far the best looker of the three Zephyrs :Beating_A_Dead_Hors e_by_liviu)
2d on the Ducati 900 SS and raise with the Ducati 750 F1s
2d on the Dyna but adding the Convertible. No bigtwinhad any right handling this well! :thumb:
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I bought a left over new `91 Suzuki VX800 years ago for $4,200. Haven't ridden it for a few years now since I lent it to my son for a couple years and all it needs is the valves adjusted + new battery @ 84K miles. It's the 1st Suzuki I've ever owned and the most trouble free bike too. :bow: 1 of these days I'll get it back on the roads. :grin: Until I got a 2000 MuZ 660 Tour it was my best handling bike ever w/superbike handlebar. :cool: Unlike here in the US VXs were much more popular in Europe and sold for many years longer than here ('90-'93).
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It has the heart of a savage. For a while it had 700cc for about 5000 miles but that blew apart due to a mistake.
It served me well for 35,000 miles before I sold it. It was ported and polished, carried the sidecar all its life. It has been
through 2 other owners and the last I heard was still rolling along fine. Harley buddy saddle, sportster front fender,
darkside rear tire, Avon sidecar special tire up front, and converted to chain drive so that I could choose my own final drive ratios. It put in several appearances at the Deep Forest and many many at the Krain breakfasts. It baffled many Harley owners, some of whom thought it was a restoration, one of whom said "I remember those". That was at a sidecar rally
in Spokane.
BTW that photo was before it got the Avon front tire and sportster front fender.
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Then came TV Cult Bikes!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/Bronson%20bikes_zpsgkboqtcy.jpg)
:bike-037: Hang in there.
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1995-1996 triumph speed triple...
one of the original naked bikes.
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Kawasaki ZRX1100 and ZRX1200, which are actually through-backs to the 80's KZ1000R Eddie Lawson Replica.
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Kawasaki ZRX1100 and ZRX1200, which are actually through-backs to the 80's KZ1000R Eddie Lawson Replica.
Just saw one of thes, a green one, at Van Sant airport last Sunday. Hada small crowd around it. Although they are just a few years out of production, IIRC, they are gaining interest.
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Just saw one of thes, a green one, at Van Sant airport last Sunday. Hada small crowd around it. Although they are just a few years out of production, IIRC, they are gaining interest.
Just the look of them alone makes me feel confident nothing will go wrong. Never actually ridden one but big Zeds are hard to go past.
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The mythical half man half beast Centauro, just because they are so rare and fing awesome
I would agree...since they only made about 1918 total Centauro's and only about 245 GT's (like mine...) :cool: :1: :thumb:
(http://thumb.ibb.co/chO76F/IMG_5430.jpg) (http://ibb.co/chO76F)
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That's a beautiful bike JJ looks just like mine. :)
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many abused, none killed.
I have buddy with 130k+ on his. Remember, Brock made this the first ever street legal bike to run in 7s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgVFiikvDbc
thanks for posting that! quick enough for any attention span.
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seems like anything can be Cult here so..
Buell
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-Qm8ggbw/0/M/BWB%202%20FREE%20PARKING-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-Qm8ggbw/A)
DR650, same bike for 20 years..
(https://photos.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-tdCxmTr/0/M/IMG_2018-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/DR-650/i-tdCxmTr/A)
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Now, here's a Cult bike! (http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/wpml_yes_zps6qtvsndc.gif)
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/8359561280_556359cdd4_b_zpscskrgdn4.jpg)
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So, throwing this out to the the collective MC wisdom here, what motorcycles do you think will become the next " cult " bikes?
SSR Buccaneer
(http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/street/buccaneer/cafe/ca.jpg)
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A 250 twin with 17 hp? It looks nice but...........
My Yamaha 2 smoke twin in `62 had 20hp and did 85 mph. Now that's a bike(my1st) I never should have sold. Very few were sold in US then and it was bulletproof. :smiley: But of course I had to get something faster at the time. :rolleyes:
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Anybody mention the Brough Superior?!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/Lawrence_of_Arabia_Brough_Superior_gif_zpsyrph8kx2.gif)
In color ...
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/brough-superior-the-worlds-most-desirable-motorcycle-33_zpsqhe9djeb.png)
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Here is another bike that has developed a small, but devoted following, and it's Italian;
2001-2003 Aprilia Futura.
A sport tourer with the Rotax engine from the Tuono and a 6 speed. Came with large optional hard bags, a fairing that offered great protection, with good heat management.
Probably due partly to its quirky styling, it never sold very well, although reviews at the time were extremely positive. Today, the small community of owners validate it's terrific attributes, for its reliability, great engine, very good ergonomics, especially the comfortable factory seat.
(http://thumb.ibb.co/e88eLa/image.jpg) (http://ibb.co/e88eLa)
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I don't know about a cult bike, but the Ducati Monster (especially the air-cooled pre 2009) have a tremendous following.
As does the Yamaha XS650, but they seem to be modified so much, they make great a café, brat, bobber and even scramblers.
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Didn't everyone want one of these babies at one time?
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/60s-Batgirl-on-bike-cosplay_zpsueuszjhq.jpg)
:kiss:
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Batgirl? Sure!
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Does she sleep hanging upside down?
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Does she sleep hanging upside down?
Let me look ... nope . She does snore a bit though , although even that is kinda cute .
Dusty
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Does she sleep hanging upside down?
As far as smarty pants comments go, it's gunna be hard dining out in this one, but I'll try not to be rude. Do you guys throw these baits out just for fun ??
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Small bore stratospheric redline bikes like the CB1 and Bandit 400 are a hoot. Feel like you're doing a 100 at 50.
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My pick would be the early Triumph 885 Hinckley models, in particular, the Thunderbird Sport. These bikes were pretty well bullet proof and over engineered beyond belief. Many owners have well over 100k on the motors and still going strong. Triumph certainly got it right in their rebirth and produced a great motorcycle. I enjoyed my TBS for a number of years but the riding position and my ever increasing friendship with arthritis caused us to part ways. Of course room for a pearl white Bassa in the herd certainly had some input also..............
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/britman1/Top%20End%201_zpsytrkiere.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/britman1/media/Top%20End%201_zpsytrkiere.jpg.html)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/britman1/CleanTBS1.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/britman1/media/CleanTBS1.jpg.html)
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Really cannot disagree with the early Hinkley triumphs. I know a couple of owners of the very early bikes, and they are keepers. The " Hurricane" pipes look great, bet they sound good too!
My pick would be the early Triumph 885 Hinckley models, in particular, the Thunderbird Sport. These bikes were pretty well bullet proof and over engineered beyond belief. Many owners have well over 100k on the motors and still going strong. Triumph certainly got it right in their rebirth and produced a great motorcycle. I enjoyed my TBS for a number of years but the riding position and my ever increasing friendship with arthritis caused us to part ways. Of course room for a pearl white Bassa in the herd certainly had some input also..............
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/britman1/Top%20End%201_zpsytrkiere.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/britman1/media/Top%20End%201_zpsytrkiere.jpg.html)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/britman1/CleanTBS1.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/britman1/media/CleanTBS1.jpg.html)
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Kawasaki ZRX1100 and ZRX1200, which are actually through-backs to the 80's KZ1000R Eddie Lawson Replica.
I've owned 3....
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/eldomike/Kawasaki%20Owned/DSCF0351_zpskgopsspx.jpg)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/eldomike/Kawasaki%20Owned/DSCF0015_zpsmur2dul8.jpg)
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A fantastic bike!
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Anybody mention the Brough Superior?!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/Lawrence_of_Arabia_Brough_Superior_gif_zpsyrph8kx2.gif)
In color ...
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic003/brough-superior-the-worlds-most-desirable-motorcycle-33_zpsqhe9djeb.png)
"Awwwwrence!!" Yes, the "Cult Bike" we all want...but none of us can afford!! (LOL) :rolleyes: :shocked: :cool: :1: :thumb: