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Title: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: bad Chad on November 20, 2016, 08:40:02 PM
Just wondering how that project was fairing for you?
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: Tom on November 20, 2016, 11:33:24 PM
He has it finished.  Registered with oem sidecar. 
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: JJ on November 21, 2016, 02:59:27 PM
Would love to see a photo!  The legendary 2-wheel drive ROKON Trail-Breaker!   :thumb: :cool: :1:

I believe these are still being manufactured, yes? :cool:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/hZxCqa/rokon_trailbreaker_1.jpg) (http://ibb.co/hZxCqa)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/mXOkAa/rokon_trailbreaker.jpg) (http://ibb.co/mXOkAa)

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Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: steven c on November 21, 2016, 05:57:10 PM
Still  going strong.
https://www.rokon.com
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on November 21, 2016, 10:42:28 PM
 No 'snot!  As a two wheeler it is awesomely capable.  As a sidecar machine it is dangerous.  ROKON DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SIDECAR MACHINES!  At 18 MPH it try to head shake wanting badly to go into a tank slapper.  Rokon does not have enough experience with sidecars to understand the geometry.  I am certain that the trail is wrong for sidecar use.  When it arrived the sidecar wheel alignment was wrong and the manufacturing method left no way to adjust toe in or lean out.  I was able to change thing enough to get those close but it still has the head shake problem.  I will have to fabricate a way to attach a hydraulic steering damper before it is safe to ride.  Knowing what I know now , I never would have bought it.
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: Triple Jim on November 21, 2016, 11:11:27 PM
Sorry to hear that, Jim.  I hope you get it to where you can enjoy it.
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: Lannis on November 22, 2016, 11:37:23 AM
No 'snot!  As a two wheeler it is awesomely capable.  As a sidecar machine it is dangerous.  ROKON DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SIDECAR MACHINES!  At 18 MPH it try to head shake wanting badly to go into a tank slapper.  Rokon does not have enough experience with sidecars to understand the geometry.  I am certain that the trail is wrong for sidecar use.  When it arrived the sidecar wheel alignment was wrong and the manufacturing method left no way to adjust toe in or lean out.  I was able to change thing enough to get those close but it still has the head shake problem.  I will have to fabricate a way to attach a hydraulic steering damper before it is safe to ride.  Knowing what I know now , I never would have bought it.

Probably the sidecar is meant for soft ground at walking speed or just over, and so they didn't worry about geometry or hard-road stability.    But if that's what it is, they should say so.

These are tempting machines for people with places to ride them!   I'd like to try one on our trails here at home someday ...

Lannis
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: cruzziguzzi on November 22, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
Probably the sidecar is meant for soft ground at walking speed or just over, and so they didn't worry about geometry or hard-road stability.    But if that's what it is, they should say so.

These are tempting machines for people with places to ride them!   I'd like to try one on our trails here at home someday ...

Lannis

I'm think that that's the rub. Intended use. I'll bet Rokon expects one to be hauling around firewood or Deer carcasses more than running down to the corner store.


Todd.
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on November 22, 2016, 05:15:07 PM
 I think you are right. All the promotional videos I have seen show it hauling logs or rocks  at 6 MPH or less.
 One even shows it pulling a plow.  Without a hydraulic steering damper it is unsafe at anything above 18 MPH.
 There is not even a way to tighten steering head bearings without taking something apart.
 The 3 speed transmission can only be shifted when standing still.  This means if you come to a hill you must stop to down shift.
 That is a piss poor way to design a motorcycle transmission.  Rokon should be ashamed to still be marketing it this way.
 They don't tell about that feature in the advertising.
Title: Re: Sasquatch, hows the Rokon doing?
Post by: Arizona Wayne on November 22, 2016, 10:40:15 PM
I think you are right. All the promotional videos I have seen show it hauling logs or rocks  at 6 MPH or less.
 One even shows it pulling a plow.  Without a hydraulic steering damper it is unsafe at anything above 18 MPH.
 There is not even a way to tighten steering head bearings without taking something apart.
 The 3 speed transmission can only be shifted when standing still.  This means if you come to a hill you must stop to down shift.
 That is a piss poor way to design a motorcycle transmission.  Rokon should be ashamed to still be marketing it this way.
 They don't tell about that feature in the advertising.


Too bad you couldn't have test rode 1 before you bought 1.