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Title: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Penderic on November 22, 2016, 12:29:24 AM
"It wasn t seen at either INTERMOT or EICMA, probably because it was born out a project started by Honda North America, but quietly, and via press release, Honda have taken the wraps off of their new A2 license-friendly Rebel bobber."

http://www.motofire.com/2016/11/news/honda-quietly-launch-500cc-rebel-bobber/

 :huh:

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/99352_17ym_Rebel-750x480_zpsdhwhkrck.jpg)

 :popcorn:

Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: bigbikerrick on November 22, 2016, 02:41:34 AM
I Think, in a bike of this genre, I like  the yamaha bolt much better. something about the gas tank on the little honda doesnt look "right"IMHO.
Rick.



Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Aaron D. on November 22, 2016, 06:04:38 AM
There's a 250 version too. Kind of odd, more like it takes inspiration from the Ruckus than old school American style.

I kind of like it.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: stevet on November 22, 2016, 06:18:03 AM
I would like to thank Honda for a new product with a sane size engine.  I am a proponent nowadays for the 500-800cc segment, good for them.  They should have thrown a parade rather than quietly put it out there.

Yes, that upright tank may take a little getting used to, sitting on the diagonal between the (relatively) high head tube and the (relatively) low seat.  It looks better at different angles.

But the earth-shattering part for me is that it is a small Rebel... without a rear drum brake!  (GASP!!!)

Steve.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Air-Cooled on November 22, 2016, 09:29:31 AM
What makes this a bobber? Looks more like a cruiser.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 22, 2016, 09:33:03 AM
Meh..

(http://www.motofire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/99481_17YM_Rebel-750x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: rocker59 on November 22, 2016, 09:35:58 AM
I Think, in a bike of this genre, I like  the yamaha bolt much better. 


Bolt is not in the same class with Rebel.  The Bolt should be better than this updated Rebel entry-level bike.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: cruzziguzzi on November 22, 2016, 12:58:16 PM
I like it. I see; Monster-esque frame, Hugger smallness, Honda reliability and not a little nod to "Speedway" style.

I'd commute the hell outa one if I had a commute and needed a new bike.


Todd.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Triple Jim on November 22, 2016, 01:04:32 PM
Very low seat, feet semi-forward, Harleyesque styling, oversized front tire... "Honey, learn on this, and if you do OK, we'll buy you a Harley."
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Adan on November 22, 2016, 01:52:38 PM
Through the eyes of an experienced rider, the flaws will jump out first.  I showed a picture of it to a fellow I work with who's shopping for his first bike.  His eyes popped out.  I've been steering him towards a Honda 500 anyway.  This hits the spot even more than the current CB's.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Rough Edge racing on November 22, 2016, 03:16:27 PM
 I'm a retro bike hater...But looking at the Honda it's just a smaller bike with a low seat. Typically Honda with styling toned down for a wide appeal to casual/newer/smaller  riders...Not every one on a bike cares about styling trends, state of the art handling or rides for long distances...The rider's car would be small SUV or Japanese sports coupe...
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: LowRyter on November 22, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
whatever........... ...
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: jas67 on November 22, 2016, 03:26:09 PM
Meh..

 :1:
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: willowstreetguzziguy on November 22, 2016, 04:36:11 PM
IMHO Ugliest gas tank I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Cool Runnings on November 22, 2016, 04:50:03 PM
Nice chick bike.  Looks to be painful for a average sized man. :popcorn:
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Penderic on November 22, 2016, 05:47:00 PM
IMHO Ugliest gas tank I've ever seen!

That big ugly seam along the bottom of the tank also looks real cheap.

Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Aaron D. on November 22, 2016, 06:13:28 PM
Bet they sell tons of them.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: kenvil1 on November 22, 2016, 06:24:45 PM
The Rebel uses a choice of engines from the current CB lineup; it's available as a 500cc twin or a 300cc single. Honda is doing really well when it comes to building a variety of models from existing drivetrains, and it's nice that they are making an effort at providing affordable and efficient motorcycles for all walks of life. My first motorcycle was a 1971 SL175, so I'll always have a soft spot for Honda motorcycles.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: fotoguzzi on November 22, 2016, 06:31:50 PM
reminds me of the last run of Buell Blast's.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Buell/i-wD7Q5L8/0/S/2010-buell-blast-crushed_zps89c70917-S.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Buell/i-wD7Q5L8/A)
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Penderic on November 22, 2016, 10:33:19 PM
They had a second last run too.

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/bike%20bin%20trash_zpsnfhadff1.jpg)
 :cry:
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Rough Edge racing on November 23, 2016, 06:08:01 AM
 This photo is circa 1950 and is a nicely done "Bob Job" or Cut Down" as they were called then...Knucklehead engine and the bobbed fenders....


                     (https://occhiolungo.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/scan23_thumb.jpg?w=650&h=473)
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: JJ on November 23, 2016, 08:41:02 AM
This photo is circa 1950 and is a nicely done "Bob Job" or Cut Down" as they were called then...Knucklehead engine and the bobbed fenders....


                     (https://occhiolungo.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/scan23_thumb.jpg?w=650&h=473)

That is a GREAT vintage photo!!  :thumb: :cool: 

Actually, if you look closely, those two new Honda's look similar to a V9 Bobber / Roamer! (IMHO)  :rolleyes: :shocked:


(http://thumb.ibb.co/fVS6GF/99481_17_YM_Rebel_750x480.jpg) (http://ibb.co/fVS6GF)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/cvARGF/Moto_Guzzi_V9_Bobber_002_590x393.jpg) (http://ibb.co/cvARGF)
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Rough Edge racing on November 23, 2016, 09:24:53 AM
 More of the same " Booze Fighters" club fun....probably at the infamous Hollister bike meet

       (http://bfmc94.com/uploads/3/3/0/5/3305205/5123.jpg?1388369681)

       
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: JJ on November 23, 2016, 10:26:28 AM
More of the same " Booze Fighters" club fun....probably at the infamous Hollister bike meet

       (http://bfmc94.com/uploads/3/3/0/5/3305205/5123.jpg?1388369681)

     

 :thumb: :cool: :1: - - This photo is in the book "The Original Wild Ones - Tales of the Boozefighters" - by Bill Hayes....an excellent read for anyone who is interested in the history of post WW II motorcycle riders.  :cool:
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Daleroso on November 23, 2016, 10:39:05 AM
Triumph got it right.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Rough Edge racing on November 23, 2016, 10:41:34 AM
 JJ, thanks for the heads up on the book, I just ordered it on Amazon...
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Triple Jim on November 23, 2016, 10:54:42 AM
Actually, if you look closely, those two new Hondas look similar to a V9 Bobber / Roamer! (IMHO)

Not to say there aren't similarities, but the Guzzi doesn't have the Harley styling cues, like the curved rear fender bracket, the low seat, and the exaggerated peanut-derivitive tank.
Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: rocker59 on November 23, 2016, 11:11:23 AM
Not to say there aren't similarities, but the Guzzi doesn't have the Harley styling cues, like the curved rear fender bracket, the low seat, and the exaggerated peanut-derivitive tank.

Which Harleys have had "curved rear fender brackets" ??

(http://cdn.powersportstv.com/388985_1_2014_Harley-Davidson_FLSTN_-_Softail_Deluxe.jpg)

(http://cdn.silodrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Sportster.jpg)

Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: Triple Jim on November 23, 2016, 11:31:23 AM
The good ones like shovelheads, etc..  Not necessarily the same curve, but curved.


(http://thumb.ibb.co/h3VRGF/shovelhead.jpg) (http://ibb.co/h3VRGF)

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Title: Re: Bobberism .... Honda's New 500cc Twin Bobber
Post by: redrider on November 23, 2016, 11:37:45 AM
Bet they sell tons of them.
Ugly. The local dealer has tons of new leftover street bikes from the past several years. ATVs and generators outsell the bikes.