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Title: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: SaskMick on November 26, 2016, 11:41:05 AM
2003 California Titanium 

My exhaust leaking water, is this normal ? 

Another question.... Is it possible to kill whatever it is that stops me from starting the bike when it's in gear ?
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Triple Jim on November 26, 2016, 11:53:17 AM
If you mean that it spits water droplets out the exit when when the engine is cold, yes, that's normal.

I'll let someone more familiar with that bike answer you about how to make it start in gear.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: SaskMick on November 26, 2016, 12:04:51 PM
Jim,     There is often a puddle of water underneath the bike when I park it.     It clear water but it tastes disgusting.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: oldbike54 on November 26, 2016, 12:22:11 PM
 Stop parking over puddles , and try pulling in the clutch lever .

  Dusty
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: guzzisteve on November 26, 2016, 12:32:56 PM
That Cali has an 'Idiot Logic relay' i think. All the idiot switches go to it. Sidestand, nuetral, etc.. Jumper it and you are good to go.

If you ride it more than 10mi in a single bound it will be warmed up and not condense water in exhaust.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on November 26, 2016, 12:42:19 PM
 Stop tasting bike pee.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: SaskMick on November 26, 2016, 12:47:27 PM
That Cali has an 'Idiot Logic relay' i think. All the idiot switches go to it. Sidestand, nuetral, etc.. Jumper it and you are good to go.

The neutral light is useful.



If you ride it more than 10mi in a single bound it will be warmed up and not condense water in exhaust.

That's what I needed to know. Thanks
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Wayne Orwig on November 26, 2016, 01:09:03 PM
Jim,     There is often a puddle of water underneath the bike when I park it.     It clear water but it tastes disgusting.

Try it with a little scotch.....


All internal combustion engines are water factories. If you are ever going to start them, you need to ride long enough to get it to a hot enough temperature to cook off the water. If not, the water is going to do damage.


That model has a neutral / sidestand interlock. NO SWITCH ON THE CLUTCH LEVER. You can't take it out of neutral if the sidestand is out.
You can wire around it, but why? Just stop running the bike on the sidestand while in gear, which is a bad idea anyway.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Penderic on November 26, 2016, 02:32:54 PM
Puddles? Sounds like your sidestand needs adjustment.  :laugh:

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Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Muzz on November 26, 2016, 02:45:56 PM
It is obvious that the radiator has a leak and that leak must be found quickly before you loose all your coolant. :wink:

The baby B has the feature that if you pull in the clutch the motor will fire up in gear. Great if you happen to stall it in slow traffic; trying to find neutral with a stalled motor in a line of traffic is not my idea of fun. It also has a sidestand switch, which I personally think is a great safety feature. I have had a sidestand spring break on a previous bike and it dug in two up when going around a corner at highway speed. Although we stayed up the right way it was frightening to say the least and I was pleased that there were no cars coming the other way.

If Steve's suggestion can be done while retaining the sidestand switch I would say do it.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: sib on November 26, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
It's elementary:  fuel + oxygen ---> energy + carbon dioxide + water

Yep, you don't want to disable your side stand switch unless you believe that both you and your bike are infallible.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: yogidozer on November 26, 2016, 03:13:03 PM
maybe it's not from the bike?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: sturgeon on November 26, 2016, 03:25:43 PM
Drinking water found on the ground is much like eating yellow snow.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: SmithSwede on November 26, 2016, 03:28:56 PM
Believe it or not, but burning one gallon of gasoline in an engine creates about a gallon of water. 

That's why exhaust pipes rust.  And why engine oil can get contaminated by lack of sufficient heat. 

Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: charlie b on November 26, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
I liked not having a neutral (or sidestand) switch.

How else can you get though traffic with a broken clutch cable.  :)
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: guzzisteve on November 26, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
All that crap just goes bad, bout as useful as the neutral light on a Convert(switch on the clutch cable).
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: SaskMick on November 26, 2016, 05:51:19 PM
My Guzzi's leaked what looked like vanilla custard vape liquid :evil:
It's definitely water :laugh:    I saw it dripping from the exhaust.

I will get it good and hot tomorrow then leave it alone till spring.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Dean Rose on November 26, 2016, 07:14:10 PM
Ride it in one gear lower than you usually do or just keep the RPMs up.

Dean
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Penderic on November 26, 2016, 07:16:42 PM
Water.

Its everywhere!



(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/water%20on%20mars_zpsccplbc62.jpg)
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: jbell on November 27, 2016, 05:18:53 PM
Ummmmm, do you have a dog??    :sad:
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Tom on November 27, 2016, 08:50:02 PM
Ride it in one gear lower than you usually do or just keep the RPMs up.

Dean

 :1:  Loads of sins...from low rpm's.  Probably the main culprit to electrical "problem" with Bruce Springsteen's recent ride.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Bulldog9 on November 27, 2016, 11:44:05 PM
Condensation until the engine and pipes are hot enough to burn it off. Is very common. Best to ride it long enough that the system gets hot and it doesn't build up and sit very often, otherwise you will rust out your muffler bearings.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Penderic on November 28, 2016, 12:00:21 AM
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/mufflerBearing_zpsubuxdofw.jpg)

 :1:
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: rocker59 on November 28, 2016, 05:18:46 AM
2003 California Titanium 

My exhaust leaking water, is this normal ? 

Another question.... Is it possible to kill whatever it is that stops me from starting the bike when it's in gear ?

Raise the Sidestand before starting, or unplug the Sidestand Switch.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Cam3512 on November 28, 2016, 07:45:58 AM
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/mufflerBearing_zpsubuxdofw.jpg)

 :1:

Good God man,  where do you get this stuff??

Brilliant!
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: sib on November 28, 2016, 08:55:29 AM
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/mufflerBearing_zpsubuxdofw.jpg)

 :1:
That bearing must have come out of your broken wheelbase.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: redrider on November 28, 2016, 09:33:16 AM
Have you noticed how the car exhausts emit fog on cold mornings after start up? Water in the exhaust. If those pesky intake valves would stay closed, the humid air is eliminated. (The bikes do the same)

MCN/ Dr. Barnes has a statement about electronic aids which I believe applies to safety switches: "these are systems designed to compensate for limitations in a rider's abilities...."
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: sib on November 28, 2016, 10:22:53 AM
...MCN/ Dr. Barnes has a statement about electronic aids which I believe applies to safety switches: "these are systems designed to compensate for limitations in a rider's abilities...."
The same could be said of parachutes.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: redrider on November 28, 2016, 10:51:22 AM
In the early 70's there was a huge uptick in sky diving and yours truly got on the train. I was also riding motorcycles then. The two endeavors are akin in my estimation. It is about risk management. Back then, some new fangled gizmos were coming out all in the name of safety. We know how bikes changed but did you know about the black box that would automatically deploy the reserve chute? Yep, there it was, attached to my reserve pack ready to save me from myself if I passed a preset altitude above a set velocity. I stopped using one when another chute jockey had his activate on the ride up.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: sib on November 28, 2016, 01:03:36 PM
Believe it or not, but burning one gallon of gasoline in an engine creates about a gallon of water. 
...
I just crunched the numbers and you are right on the button.  Depending on the particular fuel blend, which has slightly different density, a gallon of gasoline produces between 0.98 and 1.07 gallon of water.

There's the solution to the western drought:  everyone burn lots of gas.
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Penderic on November 28, 2016, 07:42:35 PM
You might want to take care of that pipe leak before spawning season.

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/fish%20up%20pipe_zps9wayur1z.jpg)
 :grin:
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: SmithSwede on November 28, 2016, 09:57:08 PM
Sib--I would not lead you astray.   Truth is my mistress.   Ask Dusty.   :laugh:

But that really is an amazing fact when you ponder it.  We are producing a prodigious amount of water.  Fill up your tank and contemplate 4 to 6 gallons of water being spit from your engine.  No wonder it rusts out exhaust systems, contaminates oil, etc. 

Best solution is to run them until they are stinking hot.   Burn away all that water!
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: oldbike54 on November 28, 2016, 10:13:10 PM
Sib--I would not lead you astray.   Truth is my mistress.   Ask Dusty.   :laugh:

But that really is an amazing fact when you ponder it.  We are producing a prodigious amount of water.  Fill up your tank and contemplate 4 to 6 gallons of water being spit from your engine.  No wonder it rusts out exhaust systems, contaminates oil, etc. 

Best solution is to run them until they are stinking hot.   Burn away all that water!

 The Swede speaks the truth . Of course it never hurts to have a degree in physics from one of the high powered schools in Massachusetts    :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Exhaust leaking water
Post by: Penderic on November 29, 2016, 12:18:19 AM

Get rich! All we gotta do is reverse da process and turn water back into gas!  :boozing:

Fill 'er up!

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