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Title: New fangled device
Post by: kenvil1 on November 28, 2016, 01:04:59 PM
Here's a new invention in forced air technology for internal compression engines. Other than the obvious visual downside, the simple mechanical operation of this device would otherwise complement the simple nature and the mild power of the small-block Guzzi (one per cylinder).

http://newatlas.com/drum-charger-cheap-motorcycle-turbo/46648/
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Penderic on November 28, 2016, 01:43:40 PM
Interesting! Bet it sounds funny.

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/self-inflating-whoopee-cushion_zpsldiksuwz.jpg)
 :laugh:
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Zoom Zoom on November 29, 2016, 05:22:37 AM
Well, it is interesting. As you mentioned, visual downside, big time!

I suppose you could put a Buick hub cap over it.

John Henry
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: webmost on November 29, 2016, 08:24:07 AM
I don't think it looks that bad.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: bad Chad on November 29, 2016, 08:31:40 AM
Right, but who believes it actually works?
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Penderic on November 29, 2016, 10:53:53 AM
Pancake-like design can easily be adapted to function as a parts catcher too! Now thats handy!  :angel:

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/oil%20pan%20big_zpsfbs65gzn.jpg)
 :cheesy:
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Hymes Inc. on November 29, 2016, 11:13:39 AM
Neat idea. Be cool if it works.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: trippah on November 29, 2016, 11:50:52 AM
I think that silver oil pan shows a touch of class. :huh:
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on November 29, 2016, 12:53:59 PM
Oh, a panting puffer.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: charlie b on November 29, 2016, 02:05:51 PM
Hey, if you made it out of steel it could double as a flywheel  :)
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Triple Jim on November 29, 2016, 04:08:37 PM
From what they described, it seems like a pretty neat idea.   I'm sure is could be designed in to a motorcycle so it didn't look ridiculous.  The amount of boost it's capable of is a typical street kind of pressure that doens't require a lot of special engine design.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: kenvil1 on November 29, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
One other downside is that it needs to be connected an exact distance downstream from the exhaust port(s); if not for this, it could have been disguised as a saddlebag perhaps. They also don't mention if crossover pipes pose a problem on twins.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: jas67 on November 29, 2016, 04:31:14 PM
One other downside is that it needs to be connected an exact distance downstream from the exhaust port(s); if not for this, it could have been disguised as a saddlebag perhaps. They also don't mention if crossover pipes pose a problem on twins.

Sounds like it would only be effective over a narrow RPM range.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Moto on November 29, 2016, 04:39:47 PM
Sounds like it would only be effective over a narrow RPM range.

Yes. It seems a lot like a tuned expansion pipe for a two-stroke, but with a diaphragm in the way. I'm doubtful and would want to see a 3rd party evaluation. After building a new pipe, etc., it would be too easy to fool yourself into thinking your investment was worthwhile.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Triple Jim on November 29, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
They show dynamometer curves for before and after on the KTM 390.  I realize anything can be faked, but I am going with the assumption that it's real data.  There's nothing narrow banded or peaky about the curve they show.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on November 29, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
 Just remember, they have a vested interest in making it look good.
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Triple Jim on November 29, 2016, 09:18:20 PM
Of course, Jim.  But blatant lies about a new product don't help in the long run, so I'll assume they picked the prettiest dyno run out of 100 of them, rather than assuming they just used a Sharpie.  :)
Title: Re: New fangled device
Post by: Moto on November 29, 2016, 09:54:00 PM
Of course, Jim.  But blatant lies about a new product don't help in the long run, so I'll assume they picked the prettiest dyno run out of 100 of them, rather than assuming they just used a Sharpie.  :)

What long run, and who the heck is Alter Ego anyway? It's not like Rolls Royce risking its reputation, is it? Quick-buck scam artists with a Sharpie.