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Title: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: JeffOlson on January 06, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
Country life has its charms, but burning manure is not one of them...

Damaso, our neighbor's handy farmhand, used a tractor yesterday to build a veritable mountain of manure in the horse pasture next to us. He then set it on fire (the manure, not the tractor). The mountain of manure has been burning ever since, blanketing the sky and the fields around us with smoke and depositing a fine layer of burned manure on our property, including my Norge. Moto Guzzi content (the Norge, not the manure).

Ah, country life!

What have you got?

Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Demar on January 06, 2017, 06:31:59 PM
That sounds pretty crappy.



C'mon..... someone had to type it.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 06, 2017, 06:50:08 PM
That stinks, can't you call the Sheriff or EPA or somebody?   isn't manure 'sposed to be spread on the field as fertilizer? that still stinks..
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 06, 2017, 06:52:44 PM
 Your neighbor must have been full of it.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Thunderbutt on January 06, 2017, 07:16:02 PM
Several years ago there was a "movement" :tongue: where the methane gas created by the manure was being captured, processed and later used as an energy source to operate the farm equipment. Im not sure what all was involved or how expensive the processing equipment was/is (not the cows), but it seemed like a great idea.  Much  cleaner, better for the environment, and the paint on your Norge.



Jerry 
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2017, 07:36:22 PM
 Next time sell tickets , call it the Burning manure festival  :huh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: lucian on January 06, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
You gonna put up with that crap? :grin:
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Bill Owens on January 06, 2017, 08:11:35 PM
Who was that, Dumb Asso
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 06, 2017, 08:13:59 PM
For the most part living in the country is hard to beat but can have a few drawbacks that one just has to live with. I will say that the burning of the manure seems kind of strange. Around here it is always spread on fields. I obtain some every year from my share crop farmer for our garden.
Dust, non-paved roads, stuck behind farm machinery at times, higher property insurance, longer emergency response time, etc. all go with it but we love it! We love our nature and being able to pee and shoot off my deck if I so wish. :evil:
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2017, 08:17:24 PM
 Gliderjohn says "pee and shoot off the back deck" . John , tell me you aren't doing both activities at the same time  :shocked: :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 06, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
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Gliderjohn says "pee and shoot off the back deck" . John , tell me you aren't doing both activities at the same time  :shocked: :laugh:

 Dusty

I was never in the military so how did that saying go so that you did not mix the two up?
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: SmithSwede on January 06, 2017, 08:24:07 PM
Actually it's fun to drink beer, pee off the porch, and shoot guns all at the same time.  Some minimal level of coordination is required. 

My biggest country living pet peeve is that city folk frequently just dump their unwanted or sick pets "out in the country."   I.e. by me.  Making them my problem. 

These poor lost animals often become my pets.  But the whole thing peeves me.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2017, 08:27:21 PM
 Uh oh , I see a competition developing  :evil:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Ncdan on January 06, 2017, 08:35:01 PM
Speaking as a country boy who has spread tons of manure on our fields with a pitchfork, I can attest I have never saw anyone burn the stuff. It makes fine fertilizer when spread on fields. I would like to know his reasoning for his action.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: SmithSwede on January 06, 2017, 08:41:07 PM
Some men just want to watch the manure burn
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Cam3512 on January 06, 2017, 08:53:22 PM
That's just down right hillbilly shit.   
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: JeffOlson on January 06, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
It is true that some funny stuff goes on out in the country.

I do love being able to walk out back and just shoot my gun. In the city, I'd be thrown in jail! But out here, every day is like the 4th of July! You should have heard things around here on Christmas: all the neighbors seemed to have a new gun, and they shot them all day long!

One of the things I have to be careful of is following an animal trailer too closely. More than once, liquid stuff has dropped out of the back of the trailer as I rode along behind it, splattering all over me!

Ah, life in the country!
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 06, 2017, 09:41:13 PM
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Uh oh , I see a competition developing  :evil:

 Dusty

Well Dusty...even with your silver tongue you may have a hard time getting the city to provide a pee and shoot range for the competition but if you can pull it off I am game.
Will there be different classes for barrel length? SmithSwede mentioned some firearms that are so old he may want to be sure they have access to Viagra to keep the barrel length up to snuff. :grin:
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2017, 09:48:07 PM
  :laugh: :shocked: :laugh: :shocked: :laugh: :shocked: :laugh: :shocked:

 John , you are in charge of this , we are gonna need some basic regulations , like size of target , distance to target , is this a timed event ? Are there style points ? Oh , it could be like that Olympic event where they ski and shoot . Pee and shoot ?  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 06, 2017, 09:55:30 PM
Need some more input from SmithSwede on this. A pasta shoot instead of a turkey shoot? Besides motorcycles the Italians have been making some very fine firearms since 1526 (Beretta). 
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Kent in Upstate NY on January 06, 2017, 10:18:39 PM
That is why you have zoning laws and code enforcement. That is why you pay taxes.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2017, 10:26:02 PM
 Good grief , where do some of you guys live ??? :shocked: Hell , I live in a poor part of a poor town and it is quiet and everyone keeps there yards clean , Lived in the deep piney woods of East Texas during the 80's , no trash , no stray bullets ...

 Dusty
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on January 07, 2017, 03:30:42 AM
For the most part living in the country is hard to beat but can have a few drawbacks that one just has to live with. I will say that the burning of the manure seems kind of strange. Around here it is always spread on fields. I obtain some every year from my share crop farmer for our garden.
Manure is brown gold.  Makes no sense to me to burn it. That needs to be worked into soil where it can get the green stuff growing and scrubbing the air.  Putting the brown stuff in the air is waste unless you are trying to release it's energy for warmth or power generation.  Maybe it's not a working farm and there isn't pasture land to go spreading.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Two Checks on January 07, 2017, 05:05:56 AM
Where are the "pee shooter" jokes?
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Rough Edge racing on January 07, 2017, 05:51:44 AM
 I can pee off the rear porch and shoot a gun also.... :laugh: Unfortunately gun shots go a long way out in the woods with no building to block the sound...Which means my neighbors many hundreds of feet away are just as annoying as me  :grin:
 I also can ride my unmuffled race bikes on the street for  testing...
 
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: lucian on January 07, 2017, 07:00:01 AM
What's dung is dung.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Lannis on January 07, 2017, 08:07:52 AM
Manure is brown gold.  Makes no sense to me to burn it. That needs to be worked into soil where it can get the green stuff growing and scrubbing the air.  Putting the brown stuff in the air is waste unless you are trying to release it's energy for warmth or power generation.  Maybe it's not a working farm and there isn't pasture land to go spreading.

Yep, been living in Eastern farm country most of my life, and never heard of anyone burning manure.

I suspect it's a "hobby farmer" trying out something he thought he heard on a re-run of "Green Acres".

People PAY for manure by the pickup or dump truck load for their gardens and small plots.  Burning a pile of manure is like harvesting tomatoes and then dumping them in a pit, or raising chickens and then killing and burying them ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: JeffOlson on January 07, 2017, 08:40:08 AM
It is odd. The horse stable is a separate business, but it is part of a working farm, and the current owner's family has been working this land since the 1800s... Maybe horse manure isn't good for hazelnut trees? I don't know. I'm not a farmer. I drive or ride to the city for work.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: acogoff on January 07, 2017, 08:50:05 AM
     Probably what they are doing is cleaning out stalls and getting rid of the bedding. Must be poorly run operation as that is normally a spring job or they are trying to rid themselves of a disease infestation. Best to try and stay out of the smoke.
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on January 07, 2017, 09:00:02 AM
What's dung is dung.
:laugh: <head shake>  :bow:
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 07, 2017, 09:22:53 AM
I was never in the military so how did that saying go so that you did not mix the two up?
GliderJohn

This is your rifle, and this is your gun.
This is for business, and this is for fun.
 :shocked:  :smiley:
And yes, it makes no sense whatever to burn manure except for heat. Nomads in the middle east use camel dung for cooking.
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or they are trying to rid themselves of a disease infestation
maybe

Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: JeffOlson on January 07, 2017, 09:55:01 AM
Snow and ice (freezing rain) are coming this weekend, starting any moment now. Hopefully they will extinguish the smoldering fire and cover the stench. However, that means no riding for a time...
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: toukow on January 07, 2017, 10:26:57 AM
Funny, I was just looking at CL to buy some horse manure to attempt growing mushrooms, as it's supposedly one of the best substrates. $25 for a pickup full of aged material.

On the brighter side (not my usual nature), one of our neighbors adjacent to our 5 acres burns his garbage, plastic and all, much to the dismay of another neighbor and they've had words on the matter. Pick thy poison I guess....
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 07, 2017, 12:54:43 PM
Funny, I was just looking at CL to buy some horse manure to attempt growing mushrooms, as it's supposedly one of the best substrates. $25 for a pickup full of aged material.

On the brighter side (not my usual nature), one of our neighbors adjacent to our 5 acres burns his garbage, plastic and all, much to the dismay of another neighbor and they've had words on the matter. Pick thy poison I guess....

That's a good deal, and yes one of the very best natural fertilizers. After my (race horse breeder) dad died, mother wanted some fresh tomatoes. Went down to the horse barn, brought up a wheelbarrow full of 2 year old manure and amended the soil where she wanted the tomatoes. Buddddy, did she have tomatoes.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Burning Manure and Other Niceties
Post by: Lannis on January 07, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
That's a good deal, and yes one of the very best natural fertilizers. After my (race horse breeder) dad died, mother wanted some fresh tomatoes. Went down to the horse barn, brought up a wheelbarrow full of 2 year old manure and amended the soil where she wanted the tomatoes. Buddddy, did she have tomatoes.  :smiley:

You want tomatoes, I'll tell you another way to have tomatoes (although Mom might have done the same).   

For each plant, dig down with a narrow shovel about 24".   Fill the first 8" with chopped cornstalks, and the next 8" with a shovelful of manure.   Then plant the young tomato plants with a shovelful of potting soil on top.   

The chopped cornstalks and manure will start decaying and heating up while the young plant is establishing its roots, without "burning" them with too rich a mixture yet.   By the time the young plant is 12" - 18" high, the roots hit the manure and bro, that plant will take off and drown you in tomatoes.

Lannis