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Title: quality cheese products
Post by: azguzzirep on January 20, 2017, 06:51:03 AM
When i lived in Phoenix, I ate 3 kinds of cheese. Orange longhorn cheese on my nachos and other Mexican dishes, pepperjack for sandwiches and Swiss just cuz it tastes good.

But my wife introduced me to "the cheese counter " in our local markets.That glass encased garden of Eden full of wonderful cheeses from around Europe.

So now, I enjoy cheeses from Holland, Belgium,  Luxembourg, Italy, Switzerland and more. Who new? Not me!

I even eat goat's cheese now. Mmm!

Now I can even tell the difference between them😀
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: lti_57 on January 20, 2017, 07:33:17 AM
At first glance, I thought what?. Another Chinese thread.
then re-read it. 
yeah cheese is one of those  simple pleasures in life that i have always enjoyed sampling.
See you can teach an Old Dog new tricks

 
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 20, 2017, 08:05:38 AM
if I don't have cheese every day I go into withdrawals..  usually sharp white cheddar from Wisconsin.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: davedel44 on January 20, 2017, 08:12:56 AM
If I cared to start a new career I would be a cheesemonger.

Check out local cheese producers.  Lots of great goat cheese from
TX Hill Country. Dallas Mozzarella Company.  Houston Dairy Maids.
Locally produced ricotta.

Of course, IMHO nothing beats a gooey triple - cream brie.

I love cheese so much I even married a cheesehead!

Dave
Galveston
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: oldbike54 on January 20, 2017, 08:55:19 AM
 Dave said "cheesemonger"  :laugh:

 Yeah , a day W/O cheese is like a day W/O sunshine . Hmm , maybe a certain ex runner up would have been better served working for the cheese council  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: acogoff on January 20, 2017, 09:30:24 AM
     I hear that statin drugs can be purchased over the counter in Euro-land, must be the reason.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2017, 09:33:49 AM
If I cared to start a new career I would be a cheesemonger.

Check out local cheese producers.  Lots of great goat cheese from
TX Hill Country. Dallas Mozzarella Company.  Houston Dairy Maids.
Locally produced ricotta.

Of course, IMHO nothing beats a gooey triple - cream brie.

I love cheese so much I even married a cheesehead!

Dave
Galveston

I'd be a cheesewallah, except I don't know any Indian cheeses.

My favorite is Tilsit, made in a damp, moldy Prussian cellar and smelling SO bad that I have to leave it out in the shop because Fay won't have it in the house.

It's a real study in how "smell" and "taste" are linked, and not linked ... !

Lannis
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: SmithSwede on January 20, 2017, 10:14:26 AM
I've been a turophile all my life. 
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: ITSec on January 20, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
If I don't have at least four or five different cheese varieties, I know it's time for a trip to the market...
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: PJPR01 on January 20, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
Well for all the Cheese lovers...there's nothing better than the famous Monty Python Skit - The Cheese Shop!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDdd5KKhts

I'll see your Tilsit, and raise you a Stilton, or better yet...Venezuelan Beaver Cheese!

Anyone feeling a bit peckish?   :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Mr Pootle on January 20, 2017, 01:54:43 PM
As much as I love France, I have to say that the perfect cheeseboard would have Cheddar, from the West Country, not Ireland or New Zealand, Stilton and Wensleydale on it, and nothing else save a few sticks of celery.
And the Wensleydale would be from sheep's milk.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Demar on January 20, 2017, 02:01:55 PM
Dubliner Cheese..... so good.  Dubliner/Guiness Cheese soup..... even better.  :thumb:  :boozing:

http://www.onceuponacuttingboard.com/2012/03/guinness-dubliner-cheese-soup.html

https://www.elite-gourmet.com/gourmet-cheese/dubliner-cheese-1000105.aspx

Sometimes, if there is no solid cheese left in the house, I will pour a mouthful of shredded parmesan directly from the container much like drinking milk from the jug.  :grin:

Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2017, 02:16:52 PM
Dubliner Cheese..... so good. 


That's Fay's favorite.   Really good!

Lannis
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: sturgeon on January 20, 2017, 02:25:36 PM
Limburger and onion on rye. My favourite pub grub. Bonus is that people leave you alone  :evil:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Tkelly on January 20, 2017, 02:31:12 PM
come to the Wisconsin rally.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: pebra on January 20, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
Limburger, Tilsit -  now you're talking!
Or a ripe camembert from unpasteurised goat's milk, mmmmm
I'm reminded that there's an overdue  "Ridder" in the fridge, a local specialty. Haven't found anything quite like it. Wish you could sample it.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: not-fishing on January 20, 2017, 03:04:19 PM
Sidecars, Dogs and Cheese, a Trinity for the common man.

(http://math.mercyhurst.edu/~satwater/projects/store_site/images/wallace_gromit.jpg)

(http://wallaceandgromit.net/images/wngwensleydale_sm.jpg)
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: oldbike54 on January 20, 2017, 03:10:53 PM
 Ahh , Wallace and Grommet , brilliant stuff . Wallace is voiced by my favorite actor , Peter Sallis , who claims to have never have actually tasted Wensleydale cheese  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 20, 2017, 03:18:42 PM
come to the Wisconsin rally.
as a bonus they have great Venison too.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
Limburger, Tilsit -  now you're talking!
Or a ripe camembert from unpasteurised goat's milk, mmmmm
I'm reminded that there's an overdue  "Ridder" in the fridge, a local specialty. Haven't found anything quite like it. Wish you could sample it.

What's "local" for you?   The original is Norwegian, so I'm led to understand, and it's hard to duplicate anywhere else (like Vidalia onions or Turbeville cantaloupes, there's something in the soil).    Is there a Ridder cheese like you describe made in America?   I'm sure I could get some shipped here ....

Lannis
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 20, 2017, 03:24:48 PM
this is NOT cheese.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-7z3t7mG/0/M/IMG_1898-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-7z3t7mG/A)
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: oldbike54 on January 20, 2017, 03:30:49 PM
this is NOT cheese.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-7z3t7mG/0/M/IMG_1898-M.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Guzzi/i-7z3t7mG/A)

 Years ago a friend worked in a Quik Trip just around the corner from a hippie bar in Tulsa . Even the stoners that would wander in at midnight wouldn't eat that stuff  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: pebra on January 20, 2017, 04:41:47 PM
What's "local" for you?   The original is Norwegian, so I'm led to understand, and it's hard to duplicate anywhere else (like Vidalia onions or Turbeville cantaloupes, there's something in the soil).    Is there a Ridder cheese like you describe made in America?   I'm sure I could get some shipped here ....

Lannis

Local? A Norge-man lives in Norway, see?  :grin:
Something in the soil? I'd rather think it's a particular bacteria culture, probably patented.

With some help from Wikipedia: I think the Ridder (meaning knight) is only made here (in Norway, Norge-land), but it's exported to USA. I can only hope it's the right sort that's exported  -  they make two sorts: One tame that they wash the smear off of then cut and vacuum pack for the grocery shops. One that they don't wash (and hopefully is not vacuum packed) so it can be ripened further. It's quite interesting to follow the development in taste, smell and texture.

Like Tilsit and Limburger (and many other cheeses) the Ridder is also smear-ripened. But its bacteria culture is much milder  -  doesn't make it nearly as pungent as e.g. Tilsit. In its early stages the Ridder is almost Swiss cheese-like in texture and colour although definitely softer. I mainly cut it with the cheese plane and have on bread or crispbread. The smell and taste when fresh are quite mild although you can sense a little "stink" which grows more noticeable over the weeks.

There must be a huge selection of cheeses in USA, you'd think there's something quite like it. Do try to order it, I believe it's exported there. Start out with a small piece to see if it's in your vein.
During the fall we buy a wheel (1.8 kg) of Ridder which is "best before" November, and save it for Christmas. What's left now towards the end of January is still lovely on bread when you cut it with the plane, but the smell is quite strong. In a week or two from now it will start to crumble, the colour will be unappetising and it will be very strong to the smell and taste.
Great with beer or scotch and probably many other drinks.
Bon appétit!   :boozing:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2017, 05:26:31 PM

Local? A Norge-man lives in Norway, see?  :grin:
Something in the soil? I'd rather think it's a particular bacteria culture, probably patented.


Thanks, this is all good info and I hope will lead to me getting something as close as I can to what you can buy at that farm at the head of the fjord.

I said "soil" because it may be something as simple as a bacteria, fungus, or just a local chemical in the grass that the cows eat that produce the milk from which the cheese is made.   Or it may be a bacteria in the air there, or (as you say) something they've figured out that's known by the locals.


There must be a huge selection of cheeses in USA, you'd think there's something quite like it. Do try to order it, I believe it's exported there.


Yes, my goal is to find a kind that is as much like home as possible.  People have no conscience sometimes, you know, when it comes to making money, and might call any sort of cheese "Ridder" if they can get away with it.  Or they might be selling a "dumbed-down" version for the non-discriminating foreign palate.   I'll bet the Italians don't send us their best mozzarella!





 In a week or two from now it will start to crumble, the colour will be unappetising and it will be very strong to the smell and taste.


"Cheese - Milk's leap towards immortality"

Lannis
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: BoatDoc on January 20, 2017, 05:29:49 PM
+1 for Dubliner!
Another great Cheddar is Colliers from Wales!
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Aaron D. on January 20, 2017, 05:30:42 PM
What do you think goes INTO Velveeta!?
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2017, 05:44:57 PM
What do you think goes INTO Velveeta!?

The fine print says something about "Pasteurized Prepared Artificial Cheese Food Product", I think, sort of the cheesy version of Spam.   (If it WERE cheese, the second item on the ingredient list wouldn't be "whey" - "whey" is already part of real cheese!)

That being said, we ate tons of the stuff growing up.   Once upon a time, it was the cheapest cheese you could buy, sort of like canned "Double Q" salmon was the cheapest protein you could buy.

Today, I'd have to eat it with a quart of prune juice chased with a cupful of steel cut oats to avoid an embarrassing trip to the E-room if I ate that much of it like when I were a lad.

Lannis
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Demar on January 20, 2017, 06:31:58 PM
What do you think goes INTO Velveeta!?

Years ago I went on an 18-day backpacking trip. We brought Velveeta and Spam..... good times!
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Robert on January 20, 2017, 07:02:12 PM
Limburger and onion on rye. My favourite pub grub. Bonus is that people leave you alone  :evil:

Would that be ... on rye ... , and with rye?
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 20, 2017, 07:42:18 PM
Limburger and onion on rye. My favourite pub grub. Bonus is that people leave you alone  :evil:


Took the words right out of my mouth, hey that's unsanitary! Limburger and a beer YUM!!!!
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Fuzzy on January 20, 2017, 07:56:27 PM
Limburger and onion on rye. My favourite pub grub. Bonus is that people leave you alone  :evil:

Baumgartners in Monroe...next summer...WI rally


I said "soil" because it may be something as simple as a bacteria, fungus, or just a local chemical in the grass that the cows eat that produce the milk from which the cheese is made.   


Actually Lannis, you are right here. It is a major contributing factor.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Penderic on January 20, 2017, 09:11:59 PM
Toasts pan fried in butter, then layer with cheese and bacon. Repeat.

Served with a pickle.


(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/bacon%20cheese%20sandwich_zpscxmxgvob.jpg)
 :boozing:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 20, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
  sort of the cheesy version of Spam. 
Blasphemy !

take it from the Norwegian RTW travelers on 1937 Nimbus'.. (3:50)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDChHCMQxEQ&t=2s
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: oldbike54 on January 20, 2017, 09:27:48 PM
 I really want to start a thread titled , "Quality Chinese cheese"  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Lannis on January 20, 2017, 09:58:22 PM
Baumgartners in Monroe...next summer...WI rally

Actually Lannis, you are right here. It is a major contributing factor.

Oi you, not so much of the "Actually"!   The correct preface would be "As usual" or "As expected".

Thank you, thank you very much ....

I do like cheese.

Lannis
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Guzzistajohn on January 20, 2017, 10:02:54 PM
We used to get some good fainting goat cheese from Arkansas until they started the interstate cheese cutter tax on the I-49-71 nafta interstate hwy. Screwed it up for everybody.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: PJPR01 on January 20, 2017, 10:04:17 PM
Care Pack arrived this week from Wisconsin...an interesting variety Pack!


(http://thumb.ibb.co/eLzPov/IMG_2395.jpg) (http://ibb.co/eLzPov)
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: azguzzirep on January 21, 2017, 07:55:04 AM
I really want to start a thread titled , "Quality Chinese cheese"  :laugh:

 Dusty


Or, "what is your favorite Chinese cheese that your father told you about "?
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: sturgeon on January 21, 2017, 10:28:43 AM

Took the words right out of my mouth, hey that's unsanitary! Limburger and a beer YUM!!!!

Yes to beer, no to rye whiskey (albeit the national drink of Canada). Add a couple of pickled eggs and you've got a well-balanced meal.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: kirkemon on January 21, 2017, 11:49:31 AM
Ok - time to merge this thread with the Steel-Cut Oats thread :tongue:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: oldbike54 on January 21, 2017, 01:13:21 PM
Ok - time to merge this thread with the Steel-Cut Oats thread :tongue:

 Oh damn , don't get Leafman started  :laugh:

 

Or, "what is your favorite Chinese cheese that your father told you about "?

  :laugh: And what kind of tires do you prefer while riding to the cheese store  :shocked:

  Dusty
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: pikipiki on January 21, 2017, 01:27:18 PM
You could try brunøst (brown cheese) if you are adventurous. Think it's marketed as SkiQueen. It's quite expensive and I think brittish cheese varieties Cheshire, Stilton, Caerphilly are cheaper and better but it's certainly different and people who try it often get a taste for it.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: pebra on January 21, 2017, 06:03:52 PM
Brown cheese / SkiQueen is not really a cheese.
It's a bread spread mostly made from a mix of goat and cow milk whey.
Typically cut with a cheese plane.
It's sweet and children usually love it.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: LowRyter on January 21, 2017, 07:59:38 PM
Nothing like good ol' Americun onna cheeseburger    :food:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Ncdan on January 21, 2017, 08:06:12 PM
Is there really a country and place where the folks there eat cheese infested with maggots?
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on January 22, 2017, 12:11:21 AM
A little off topic,  the firm I work for did a project at Golden Cheese of California, at the time they made the cheese for Safeway, they turned milk into cheese in just 5 hours, I never ate that crap again, they must have had some sort of superbugs.


Sent from my shoe phone!
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Tom on January 22, 2017, 12:33:44 AM
Is there really a country and place where the folks there eat cheese infested with maggots?

Peru and Sicily.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Tom on January 22, 2017, 12:34:50 AM

Or, "what is your favorite Chinese cheese that your father told you about "?

Tofu.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Mr Pootle on January 22, 2017, 04:17:27 AM
British cheeses should all be made in a designated area.There's a blue cheese called Stichelcombe, which is a Stilton in all but name. It's made about five miles outside the boundary. The name Stilton comes from the village of Stilton, which is outside the area, but where a local innkeeper first popularised a cheese he'd found at a farm In Leicestershire, by buying the farm's product and serving it to the passengers on the stagecoaches that stopped there.
A couple of weeks ago I drove through Wensleydale on a beautiful sunny but frosty day. It really is one of the most attractive parts of the country (Oldbike54, I'm thinking England here, I haven't travelled enough in Scotland and Wales) and is terrific biking country. Cycling too, as those of you who watched the first couple of stages when Le Tour started in Leeds will know. When you come over here, forget London. After all, would you recommend Manhattan to a European tourist over Yosemite or Vermont? Major cities, with the exception of Paris, are okay for a couple of days, but don't have much to offer for more than that.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: oldbike54 on January 22, 2017, 11:05:27 AM
 Mr Pootle , the one place I want to visit in all of the world is Holmfirth , and the surrounding
Yorkshire Dales .

 Dusty
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Mr Pootle on January 22, 2017, 11:58:51 AM
Mr Pootle , the one place I want to visit in all of the world is Holmfirth , and the surrounding
Yorkshire Dales .

 Dusty
there's no Holmfirth cheese, but Gutsibits isn't far away, at Slaithwaite (pronounced Sloughit).
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: LowRyter on January 22, 2017, 12:08:38 PM
I am a pretty happy guy with a little Smoked Gouda.   :food:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Penderic on January 22, 2017, 02:04:15 PM
So, where is the Cheese Shoppe skit?  :popcorn:

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/nudge-nudge-monty-python-105_zpszgqtpaw1.jpg)
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: PJPR01 on January 22, 2017, 03:39:43 PM
So, where is the Cheese Shoppe skit?  :popcorn:

(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Penderic004/nudge-nudge-monty-python-105_zpszgqtpaw1.jpg)

Yup...I posted that back in post 9 on the thread!
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Texas Turnip on January 22, 2017, 03:55:39 PM
Limburger, sardines and a big glass of homade buttermilk.

Tex
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Tom on January 22, 2017, 04:37:53 PM
Cheese is fine for me.  The buttermilk would make me hurl.  :shocked:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 22, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
I was looking for that hurl emoticon, Tom..  :grin: you beat me to it.
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: Tom on January 22, 2017, 05:14:59 PM
Yeah, I'd be running for the lav, lou, latrine, gabinetti, WC, bathroom, lavatory, restroom, toilet or lua.  Sub in beer for the buttermilk then I'd be okay. :grin:
Title: Re: quality cheese products
Post by: davedel44 on January 22, 2017, 09:22:38 PM
Limburger, sardines and a big glass of homade buttermilk.

Tex

Forgot the sliced onions Tex.

Dave
Galveston